From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Tue May 1 12:18:41 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Linux XFS Message-ID: <3AEEE1E1.CCE3FAE3@phor.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2E30B2B859B8052F7D4D6E5B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for those of us who have been waiting patiently for nearly 2 years SGI has released there XFS for kernel 2.4. i think i know what i'll be doing tonight, hehe. http://linux-xfs.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com --------------2E30B2B859B8052F7D4D6E5B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Base: "http://linux-xfs.sgi.com/projects/xfs/" Content-Location: "http://linux-xfs.sgi.com/projects/xfs/" Linux XFS

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Tuesday May 1 2001: SGI is pleased to announce the 1.0 release of XFS^tm, a high-performance journaled filesystem for Linux.

XFS, widely recognized as the industry-leading high-performance filesystem, provides rapid recovery from system crashes and the ability to support extremely large disk farms. XFS is the first journaled filesystem for Linux available today that has a proven track record in production environments since late 1994. It is a mature technology that has been proven on thousands of IRIX systems as the default filesystem for all SGI customers.

XFS Linux 1.0 is released for the Linux 2.4 kernel and offers the following:

advanced features:
- Fast recovery after a system crash or power failure (fsck not needed)
- Journalling for guaranteed filesystem integrity
- Direct I/O
- Space preallocation
- Transactionally recorded quotas
- Access control lists and Extended attributes
- Infrastructure for XDSM support
- Excellent overall performance
- Excellent scalability (64 bit filesystem)

A complete toolset including:
- dump/restore support including all XFS filesystem features such as ACLs and quotas
- Repair utility, filesystem editor, and growing the filesystem
- Modified Red Hat installer to allow system installation on XFS
- ACL editing utility
Excellent integration with other Linux subsystems:
- NFS server support
- Root filesystem and lilo support
- Software raid integration with md and lvm packages
- Mount by label and mount by uuid

Maintains on-disk compatibility with XFS filesystems created under IRIX

XFS is licensed under GPL.

More information is available on the SGI XFS Linux Release 1.0 page. For information on the software changes that have been made since Pre-Release 0.10, see the XFS for Linux Release 1.0 New Features page.

For a more extensive listing of the capabilities and specifications of XFS, see XFS for Linux Features.

Source Code:

A complete linux 2.4.x-based tree including the XFS filesystem is available for CVS checkout.

Two distinct trees are available:

linux-2.4-xfs: fast moving development tree
linux-2.4-xfs-r1.0: XFS Linux Release 1.0

Please refer to the CVS instructions for details.

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--------------2E30B2B859B8052F7D4D6E5B-- From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Wed May 2 10:55:35 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Message-ID: <000a01c0d317$f1e79b10$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0D2F6.6AD5FB10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0D2F6.6AD5FB10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0D2F6.6AD5FB10-- From carlyos at Buffalo.com Wed May 2 11:46:15 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Message-ID: <200105021146.AA393850@mail.buffalo.com> Do you have a time machine :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ronald K. Wechter" Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:55:35 -0400 >Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so >please contact me! >Ronald K. Wechter >Network Systems Administrator >NRD Buffalo Webmaster >Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo >(716) 551-4901 > > > > > From chris.brown at ctg.com Wed May 2 11:58:23 2001 From: chris.brown at ctg.com (Chris Brown) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Message-ID: What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other media? -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 From zaurus69 at adelphia.net Wed May 2 17:54:07 2001 From: zaurus69 at adelphia.net (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000a01c0d352$69a69e00$6401a8c0@digger> I need to get it to a CD, CDRW, or Hard Drive. Ronald K. Wechter niterav@hotmail.com http://www.sherman2k.com "The Blue pill or the Red pill -- Which one would you choose?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:58 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other media? -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 From chris.brown at ctg.com Sun May 6 08:22:19 2001 From: chris.brown at ctg.com (Chris Brown) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Message-ID: Cheryl, Can we get it to the 400's DASD, and from there FTP to where we can get one of these other media? Thanks, Chris >>> zaurus69@adelphia.net 05/02/01 05:54PM >>> I need to get it to a CD, CDRW, or Hard Drive. Ronald K. Wechter niterav@hotmail.com http://www.sherman2k.com "The Blue pill or the Red pill -- Which one would you choose?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:58 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other media? -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 7 10:10:19 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002c01c0d6ff$736e31e0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> 400s DASD -- This is most likely in terms of hardware that Ihave not heard of before. I have never worked with this type of media before. We do have an FTP server available that we can transfer to - I just need to read the data off of the tape to a computer on the internet and we'll be good to go. Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:22 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Cheryl, Can we get it to the 400's DASD, and from there FTP to where we can get one of these other media? Thanks, Chris >>> zaurus69@adelphia.net 05/02/01 05:54PM >>> I need to get it to a CD, CDRW, or Hard Drive. Ronald K. Wechter niterav@hotmail.com http://www.sherman2k.com "The Blue pill or the Red pill -- Which one would you choose?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:58 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other media? -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 7 20:08:45 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability In-Reply-To: <002c01c0d6ff$736e31e0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20010508000845.19262.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> When he talks about DASD, that's IBM speak for disk storage. It stands for Direct Access Storage Device (aka Disk Drives). I think he just wants to be able to get the data to an IBM AS/400 somehow. If you can suck the data off the tape and put it someplace that he can FTP, I think that you'd be good. By the way, I have "extensive" experience reading vintage tapes. If you have problems, I could help. Cheers! --- "Ronald K. Wechter" wrote: > 400s DASD -- This is most likely in terms of hardware that Ihave not heard > of before. I have never worked with this type of media before. We do have > an FTP server available that we can transfer to - I just need to read the > data off of the tape to a computer on the internet and we'll be good to go. > > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > Chris Brown > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:22 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: RE: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability > > > Cheryl, > > Can we get it to the 400's DASD, and from there FTP to where we can get one > of these other media? > > Thanks, > Chris > > >>> zaurus69@adelphia.net 05/02/01 05:54PM >>> > I need to get it to a CD, CDRW, or Hard Drive. > > Ronald K. Wechter > niterav@hotmail.com > http://www.sherman2k.com > "The Blue pill or the Red pill -- Which one would you choose?" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of > Chris Brown > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:58 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: Re: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability > > What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other > media? > > > -- > Christopher Brown, CISSP > Global Security Manager > Information Services > Computer Task Group (CTG) > Ph: 716-888-3505 > Fx: 716-888-3318 > chris.brown@ctg.com > > > > >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> > Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so > please contact me! > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From chris.brown at ctg.com Tue May 8 08:48:11 2001 From: chris.brown at ctg.com (Chris Brown) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Message-ID: Ronald, Sorry, I sent this to nflug instead of my internal AS400 person. Please ignore my prior post. Chris -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/07/01 10:10AM >>> 400s DASD -- This is most likely in terms of hardware that Ihave not heard of before. I have never worked with this type of media before. We do have an FTP server available that we can transfer to - I just need to read the data off of the tape to a computer on the internet and we'll be good to go. Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:22 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Cheryl, Can we get it to the 400's DASD, and from there FTP to where we can get one of these other media? Thanks, Chris >>> zaurus69@adelphia.net 05/02/01 05:54PM >>> I need to get it to a CD, CDRW, or Hard Drive. Ronald K. Wechter niterav@hotmail.com http://www.sherman2k.com "The Blue pill or the Red pill -- Which one would you choose?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:58 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other media? -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Wed May 9 10:33:34 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Since Mandrake followes the RedHat style of installing Linux, everything is mainly rpm installed. You can do the following command: >rpm -qa | grep telnet There should be 2 packages installed: telnet telnet-server If you don't have either of these, you can install them via you're Mandrake CD, or go to www.rpmfind.net telnet.d is setup through inetd (or xinetd, depending on your Mandrake release), and can be configured through /etc/inetd.conf (or /etc/xinetd.conf) Hope this helps -Rob > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > seem to find telnetd. > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with Mandrake.) > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Wed May 9 12:52:32 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) Message-ID: In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't seem to find telnetd. Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with Mandrake.) A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 From wmelbrod at mandtbank.com Wed May 9 13:30:01 2001 From: wmelbrod at mandtbank.com (Wayne Melbrod) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it Message-ID: Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web download is available? Thanks! From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Wed May 9 13:41:31 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) Message-ID: immensely, thank you! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 Robert Dege ffalo.EDU> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked owner-nflug@n with a stupid stick!) flug.org 05/09/01 10:33 AM Please respond to nflug Since Mandrake followes the RedHat style of installing Linux, everything is mainly rpm installed. You can do the following command: >rpm -qa | grep telnet There should be 2 packages installed: telnet telnet-server If you don't have either of these, you can install them via you're Mandrake CD, or go to www.rpmfind.net telnet.d is setup through inetd (or xinetd, depending on your Mandrake release), and can be configured through /etc/inetd.conf (or /etc/xinetd.conf) Hope this helps -Rob > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > seem to find telnetd. > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with Mandrake.) > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From kumiorava at crosswinds.net Wed May 9 14:48:59 2001 From: kumiorava at crosswinds.net (Lasse Saarinen) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01050915005600.17645@korvetti.local> It's probably too early to find it in a store around here. However, it should be available online. Also, a lot of people here have disk sets made from the downloadable ISO images, my self included. Someone can always burn you a copy for the next meeting. It's the same exact software as in the retail package,unless you want the enterprise version of Mandrake, of course. - Lasse Wayne Melbrod wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web download is available? > > Thanks! From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 10 09:26:30 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010510132630.24153.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Hmmm... It should be called in.telnetd and it should be in /usr/sbin. If it's there, you also have to make sure that the entry for telnet is uncommented from the /etc/inetd.conf file so that inet can fork the thing when you attempt to connect. The line will say something like: telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd Note that it's using 'tcpd'. This the TCPWrappers system that you can use to limit access to the telnet on the machine. Look at the man pages for hosts.deny and hosts.allow. You can do some pretty interesting stuff with that. If you don't want to limit the attempts to log in, then simply make sure that everything is commented out of /etc/hosts.deny. If you don't have in.telnetd on the machine, get your mandrake CD and install the 'telnet-server' package (at least that's what I think it's called). Let us know how you are doing with it. Cheers! --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > seem to find telnetd. > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with Mandrake.) > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 10 09:28:11 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010510132811.81080.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Order it directly from their web site. It's www.linux-mandrake.com. Probably the easiest way to do it. I'm sure sites like 'linuxmall' have it, too. Cheers! --- Wayne Melbrod wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in > WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web > download is available? > > Thanks! > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 10 09:31:04 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it In-Reply-To: <01050915005600.17645@korvetti.local> Message-ID: <20010510133104.67142.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com> Hey, that sounds familiar. I brought four copies to the last meeting. Kevin gave me a whole pile of CD-Rs to burn for the group so if anyone wants a set, I could burn a bunch for the next meeting. Let me know so I can determine the demand. Cheers! --- Lasse Saarinen wrote: > It's probably too early to find it in a store around here. However, it should > be available online. Also, a lot of people here have disk sets made from the > downloadable ISO images, my self included. Someone can always burn you a > copy for the next meeting. It's the same exact software as in the retail > package,unless you want the enterprise version of Mandrake, of course. > > - Lasse > > Wayne Melbrod wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in > WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web > download is available? > > > > Thanks! ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From peter at thecybersource.com Thu May 10 09:32:30 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Question about last meeting Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0D934.225E3520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello All, More specifically, Bob. At the last meeting when we were working on my RedHat Linux box (I had the tower next to the guy�s that we put Mandrake 8.0 on). When we were doing something, you put a command in, I think it was �-s� at the boot prompt with the cd install, that let us bypass the password prompt. Do you remember that I had commented about the fact that that could be a good issue to talk about security and you had said that anytime anyone is physically near a box, that the security can be breached. My question for all of this, is that I have someone that forgot their root password and they had data they cannot loose. I don�t know which flavor of Linux it is. Any help would be greatly appreciated from anyone out there. Thanks, peter@thecybersource.com ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0D934.225E3520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello All,

More = specifically, Bob. At the last meeting when we were working on my RedHat Linux box (I had the = tower next to the guy’s that we put Mandrake 8.0 on). When we were doing = something, you put a command in, I think it was “-s” at the boot prompt = with the cd install, that let us bypass the password prompt. Do you remember that I had = commented about the fact that that could be a good issue to talk about security = and you had said that anytime anyone is physically near a box, that the security can = be breached. My question for all of this, is that I have someone that = forgot their root password and they had data they cannot loose. I don’t know = which flavor of Linux it is. Any help would be greatly appreciated from anyone out = there. Thanks, peter@thecybersource.com =

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0D934.225E3520-- From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 10 09:54:32 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010510135432.21208.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> /etc/securetty. You'll have to make entries for as many pseudo-ttys as you figure you might use :-) They're probably going to be called '/dev/pts?' where the '?' is a digit. The system creates them as it needs them to support xterms, telnetd, etc. Personnally, I vote for the 'sudo' option. I've forgotten the root password on systems because I always uses 'sudo'. Cheers! --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > > All installed, thanks. > > My issue now is, do I try to set it up so root can telnet in (very bad, i > know, but this is an internal server, and nobody else in the building can > spell telnet, much less use it for messing up my machine), or just set up > sudo (very good, security wise, plus i need the practice) so that I can do > my configurations. > > Since i am on the topic, where is it configured that root cannot login via > telnet? > > Thanks! > > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > > > > Robert Meyer > > > oo.com> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: telnetd on mandrake > (or, i seem to have been whacked > owner-nflug@n with a stupid stick!) > > flug.org > > > > > > 05/10/01 > > 09:26 AM > > Please > > respond to > > nflug > > > > > > > > > Hmmm... It should be called in.telnetd and it should be in /usr/sbin. If > it's > there, you also have to make sure that the entry for telnet is uncommented > from > the /etc/inetd.conf file so that inet can fork the thing when you attempt > to > connect. The line will say something like: > > telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd > > Note that it's using 'tcpd'. This the TCPWrappers system that you can use > to > limit access to the telnet on the machine. Look at the man pages for > hosts.deny and hosts.allow. You can do some pretty interesting stuff with > that. If you don't want to limit the attempts to log in, then simply make > sure > that everything is commented out of /etc/hosts.deny. > > If you don't have in.telnetd on the machine, get your mandrake CD and > install > the 'telnet-server' package (at least that's what I think it's called). > > Let us know how you are doing with it. > > Cheers! > --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > > seem to find telnetd. > > > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with > Mandrake.) > > > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > > A+, Net+,I-net+ > > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > > (716) 206-2241 Direct > > fax (716) 206-2222 > > > > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From wmelbrod at mandtbank.com Thu May 10 10:33:51 2001 From: wmelbrod at mandtbank.com (Wayne Melbrod) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it Message-ID: Hi, Which ISO's did you burn? Mandrake80-inst.iso or Mandrake80-ext.iso ? Or both? Yes, I would be happy to get a copy(s). I will bring in some blank CD's for your efforts. Thanks, Wayne >>> meyer_rm@yahoo.com 05/10/01 09:31AM >>> Hey, that sounds familiar. I brought four copies to the last meeting. Kevin gave me a whole pile of CD-Rs to burn for the group so if anyone wants a set, I could burn a bunch for the next meeting. Let me know so I can determine the demand. Cheers! --- Lasse Saarinen wrote: > It's probably too early to find it in a store around here. However, it should > be available online. Also, a lot of people here have disk sets made from the > downloadable ISO images, my self included. Someone can always burn you a > copy for the next meeting. It's the same exact software as in the retail > package,unless you want the enterprise version of Mandrake, of course. > > - Lasse > > Wayne Melbrod wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in > WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web > download is available? > > > > Thanks! ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Thu May 10 12:41:34 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) Message-ID: All installed, thanks. My issue now is, do I try to set it up so root can telnet in (very bad, i know, but this is an internal server, and nobody else in the building can spell telnet, much less use it for messing up my machine), or just set up sudo (very good, security wise, plus i need the practice) so that I can do my configurations. Since i am on the topic, where is it configured that root cannot login via telnet? Thanks! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 Robert Meyer cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked owner-nflug@n with a stupid stick!) flug.org 05/10/01 09:26 AM Please respond to nflug Hmmm... It should be called in.telnetd and it should be in /usr/sbin. If it's there, you also have to make sure that the entry for telnet is uncommented from the /etc/inetd.conf file so that inet can fork the thing when you attempt to connect. The line will say something like: telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd Note that it's using 'tcpd'. This the TCPWrappers system that you can use to limit access to the telnet on the machine. Look at the man pages for hosts.deny and hosts.allow. You can do some pretty interesting stuff with that. If you don't want to limit the attempts to log in, then simply make sure that everything is commented out of /etc/hosts.deny. If you don't have in.telnetd on the machine, get your mandrake CD and install the 'telnet-server' package (at least that's what I think it's called). Let us know how you are doing with it. Cheers! --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > seem to find telnetd. > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with Mandrake.) > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Thu May 10 14:43:28 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:26 2005 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) Message-ID: I probably will go with the sudo. I need the practice (trying to get ready for tests/classes and real world experience is handy) and it still is more secure. After all, if I teach some of my students well, then they may try taking a whack at my server, even though it's internal! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 Robert Meyer cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked owner-nflug@n with a stupid stick!) flug.org 05/10/01 09:54 AM Please respond to nflug /etc/securetty. You'll have to make entries for as many pseudo-ttys as you figure you might use :-) They're probably going to be called '/dev/pts?' where the '?' is a digit. The system creates them as it needs them to support xterms, telnetd, etc. Personnally, I vote for the 'sudo' option. I've forgotten the root password on systems because I always uses 'sudo'. Cheers! --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > > All installed, thanks. > > My issue now is, do I try to set it up so root can telnet in (very bad, i > know, but this is an internal server, and nobody else in the building can > spell telnet, much less use it for messing up my machine), or just set up > sudo (very good, security wise, plus i need the practice) so that I can do > my configurations. > > Since i am on the topic, where is it configured that root cannot login via > telnet? > > Thanks! > > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > > > > Robert Meyer > > > oo.com> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: telnetd on mandrake > (or, i seem to have been whacked > owner-nflug@n with a stupid stick!) > > flug.org > > > > > > 05/10/01 > > 09:26 AM > > Please > > respond to > > nflug > > > > > > > > > Hmmm... It should be called in.telnetd and it should be in /usr/sbin. If > it's > there, you also have to make sure that the entry for telnet is uncommented > from > the /etc/inetd.conf file so that inet can fork the thing when you attempt > to > connect. The line will say something like: > > telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd > > Note that it's using 'tcpd'. This the TCPWrappers system that you can use > to > limit access to the telnet on the machine. Look at the man pages for > hosts.deny and hosts.allow. You can do some pretty interesting stuff with > that. If you don't want to limit the attempts to log in, then simply make > sure > that everything is commented out of /etc/hosts.deny. > > If you don't have in.telnetd on the machine, get your mandrake CD and > install > the 'telnet-server' package (at least that's what I think it's called). > > Let us know how you are doing with it. > > Cheers! > --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > > seem to find telnetd. > > > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with > Mandrake.) > > > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > > A+, Net+,I-net+ > > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > > (716) 206-2241 Direct > > fax (716) 206-2222 > > > > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Thu May 10 14:44:16 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it Message-ID: For the install, you will probably need both. (When I installed my mandrake, it took the last couple of packages from the second cd) Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Wayne Melbrod" To: Subject: Re: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it Sent by: owner-nflug@nf lug.org 05/10/01 10:33 AM Please respond to nflug Hi, Which ISO's did you burn? Mandrake80-inst.iso or Mandrake80-ext.iso ? Or both? Yes, I would be happy to get a copy(s). I will bring in some blank CD's for your efforts. Thanks, Wayne >>> meyer_rm@yahoo.com 05/10/01 09:31AM >>> Hey, that sounds familiar. I brought four copies to the last meeting. Kevin gave me a whole pile of CD-Rs to burn for the group so if anyone wants a set, I could burn a bunch for the next meeting. Let me know so I can determine the demand. Cheers! --- Lasse Saarinen wrote: > It's probably too early to find it in a store around here. However, it should > be available online. Also, a lot of people here have disk sets made from the > downloadable ISO images, my self included. Someone can always burn you a > copy for the next meeting. It's the same exact software as in the retail > package,unless you want the enterprise version of Mandrake, of course. > > - Lasse > > Wayne Melbrod wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in > WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web > download is available? > > > > Thanks! ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Thu May 10 16:57:14 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Mandrake not a beta anymore... Message-ID: Are there real differences between Beta 3 of Mandrake and the current 8.0 release? Iinstalled my B3 copy and it seems to be OK, so I would rather not have to download and install again... Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 From peter at thecybersource.com Thu May 10 17:46:37 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D979.294609E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anyone know how to get into a redhat system if you�ve forgotten the root password and have no other users? ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D979.294609E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone know how to get into a redhat system if you’ve = forgotten the root password and have no other = users?

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D979.294609E0-- From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Thu May 10 18:45:29 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Weird? Daemon showing up in 'top' Message-ID: This isn't earth shaking, but... I'm getting a process showing up when I do a 'top' command called kapm-idled I wouldn't really care about it but it claims to be 94.4% CPU time, which seems awfully high. Of course, I definitely could be getting the wrong inference while I am reading it, but it seems to be taking up a lot of the processor. What is this doing? (Methinks and Advanced Power Management daemon, but I'm looking for other, more knowledgeable guidance) Can I safely kill it? Remove it? If it is APM, then I would like it gone, because this is a server I'm configuring. I don't want to have to walk past it every 10 minutes and wiggle the mouse! Thanks! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 From hubbardr at adelphia.net Thu May 10 20:01:58 2001 From: hubbardr at adelphia.net (Richard Hubbard) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0D98C.11AD6900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If you have a Red Hat emergency boot floppy you can get in. (Here's where I reveal my unbridled ignorance) The only way I know how to make one is on the last part of the RH install. I'm sure there has to be a .img file somewhere, though. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Cyber Source Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 5:47 PM To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Subject: anyone? Does anyone know how to get into a redhat system if you�ve forgotten the root password and have no other users? ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0D98C.11AD6900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If you=20 have a Red Hat emergency boot floppy you can get in. =

(Here's where I reveal my unbridled ignorance) The only = way I know=20 how to make one is on the last part of the RH install. I'm sure = there has=20 to be a .img file somewhere, though.

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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0D98C.11AD6900-- From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Thu May 10 20:59:50 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Thu May 10 21:02:13 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Weird? Daemon showing up in 'top' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>From a Linux listserv: The message quoted below is from a MandrakeSoft co-worker and friend, in a thread discussing APM's kernel thread, and how the idle function uses CPU time. This thread was in response to yet another Bugzilla bug report about kapm-idled using CPU time. Several months ago, kapmd was renamed to kapm-idled in an attempt to signal users that it was a special process, and that its CPU time wasn't "real CPU time." This hasn't silenced the bug reports and confusion. Is there some way to hack the scheduler statistics so that idle processes are special cases, which do not accumulate CPU time nor contribute to the load average? I agree that it's not pretty to special case idle function process(es), but those idle functions in turn are causing an incorrect picture of the system state to be presented to userland. -Rob > This isn't earth shaking, but... > > I'm getting a process showing up when I do a 'top' command called > kapm-idled > > I wouldn't really care about it but it claims to be 94.4% CPU time, which > seems awfully high. Of course, I definitely could be getting the wrong > inference while I am reading it, but it seems to be taking up a lot of the > processor. > > What is this doing? (Methinks and Advanced Power Management daemon, but I'm > looking for other, more knowledgeable guidance) Can I safely kill it? > Remove it? > > If it is APM, then I would like it gone, because this is a server I'm > configuring. I don't want to have to walk past it every 10 minutes and > wiggle the mouse! > > Thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From peter at thecybersource.com Thu May 10 22:03:11 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh wise one, It Worked! Thank you very much! peter@thecybersource.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Dege Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:00 PM To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Subject: Re: anyone? At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 11 09:04:44 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I printed it out for future ref -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:34 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: anyone? Way cool! This one is going in my archives, too! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Cyber Source" ource.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: anyone? owner-nflug@nflu g.org 05/10/01 10:03 PM Please respond to nflug Oh wise one, It Worked! Thank you very much! peter@thecybersource.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Dege Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:00 PM To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Subject: Re: anyone? At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 11 10:31:46 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Question about last meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010511143146.41906.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Well, depending on the version of Unix and the machine configuration (hardware passwords, etc), most of the time, you can stuff an install disk in the machine and get to a point that you can mount file systems. With Mandrake systems, you stuff the install CD in the drive and type 'rescue'. From there, you can get to a shell prompt (without a password) that will allow you to mount the root filesystem and make whatever changes that need to be made. Sun systems can be worked the same way unless someone has passworded the boot rom. If that's the case, you have to open the machine up and force a dump of the NVRAM to get it to forget. The '-s' boot flag will typically allow you to reboot the machine into 'standalone' or 'single user' mode. If the console is tagged as secure and your bootstrap isn't passworded (grub lets you password protect the boot mode so that users can only boot the normal multiuser startup), you will be presented with a root prompt. This can be done at the normal boot prompt and no install disk is needed. I can forsee problems in the future as people and companies start believing in turbo security and start encrypting the disk drives. If you lose the key for the drive, you go hungry. It would take a serious bit of horsepower to crack it. Point to note about this, if someone can get your hard drive out of the machine and has the time and resources, ANY encryption scheme can be cracked. There are folks out there with a false sense of security that their data cannot be taken without their consent. This is simply not true. If someone has PHYSICAL access to the machine, then it is NOT secure. Period. That's why you notice that most data centers are in special rooms with cyber locked or pass carded doors. Hope this helps... Cheers! --- Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > More specifically, Bob. At the last meeting when we were working on my > RedHat Linux box (I had the tower next to the guy?s that we put Mandrake 8.0 > on). When we were doing something, you put a command in, I think it was ?-s? > at the boot prompt with the cd install, that let us bypass the password > prompt. Do you remember that I had commented about the fact that that could > be a good issue to talk about security and you had said that anytime anyone > is physically near a box, that the security can be breached. My question for > all of this, is that I have someone that forgot their root password and they > had data they cannot loose. I don?t know which flavor of Linux it is. Any > help would be greatly appreciated from anyone out there. Thanks, > peter@thecybersource.com > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 11 10:44:17 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010511144417.66658.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> I actually burned both. You should have both to do an install. You can install from just the install CD but you'll be missing some goodies. No need to bring CD-Rs to replace the ones I give you since we have already had a donation to the group of a pack of them for this purpose. I'll bring several with me to the meeting. Cheers! --- Wayne Melbrod wrote: > Hi, > > Which ISO's did you burn? Mandrake80-inst.iso or Mandrake80-ext.iso ? Or > both? Yes, I would be happy to get a copy(s). I will bring in some blank > CD's for your efforts. > > Thanks, > Wayne > > > >>> meyer_rm@yahoo.com 05/10/01 09:31AM >>> > Hey, that sounds familiar. I brought four copies to the last meeting. Kevin > gave me a whole pile of CD-Rs to burn for the group so if anyone wants a set, > I > could burn a bunch for the next meeting. Let me know so I can determine the > demand. > > Cheers! > > --- Lasse Saarinen wrote: > > It's probably too early to find it in a store around here. However, it > should > > be available online. Also, a lot of people here have disk sets made from > the > > downloadable ISO images, my self included. Someone can always burn you a > > copy for the next meeting. It's the same exact software as in the retail > > package,unless you want the enterprise version of Mandrake, of course. > > > > - Lasse > > > > Wayne Melbrod wrote: > > > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store > in > > WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the > Web > > download is available? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 11 10:46:30 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Question about last meeting In-Reply-To: <20010511143146.41906.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the input Bob. It's been printed for future ref (hopefully not needed). The linux init 1 at the lilo prompt worked perfect. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Meyer Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:32 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Question about last meeting Well, depending on the version of Unix and the machine configuration (hardware passwords, etc), most of the time, you can stuff an install disk in the machine and get to a point that you can mount file systems. With Mandrake systems, you stuff the install CD in the drive and type 'rescue'. From there, you can get to a shell prompt (without a password) that will allow you to mount the root filesystem and make whatever changes that need to be made. Sun systems can be worked the same way unless someone has passworded the boot rom. If that's the case, you have to open the machine up and force a dump of the NVRAM to get it to forget. The '-s' boot flag will typically allow you to reboot the machine into 'standalone' or 'single user' mode. If the console is tagged as secure and your bootstrap isn't passworded (grub lets you password protect the boot mode so that users can only boot the normal multiuser startup), you will be presented with a root prompt. This can be done at the normal boot prompt and no install disk is needed. I can forsee problems in the future as people and companies start believing in turbo security and start encrypting the disk drives. If you lose the key for the drive, you go hungry. It would take a serious bit of horsepower to crack it. Point to note about this, if someone can get your hard drive out of the machine and has the time and resources, ANY encryption scheme can be cracked. There are folks out there with a false sense of security that their data cannot be taken without their consent. This is simply not true. If someone has PHYSICAL access to the machine, then it is NOT secure. Period. That's why you notice that most data centers are in special rooms with cyber locked or pass carded doors. Hope this helps... Cheers! --- Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > More specifically, Bob. At the last meeting when we were working on my > RedHat Linux box (I had the tower next to the guy?s that we put Mandrake 8.0 > on). When we were doing something, you put a command in, I think it was ?-s? > at the boot prompt with the cd install, that let us bypass the password > prompt. Do you remember that I had commented about the fact that that could > be a good issue to talk about security and you had said that anytime anyone > is physically near a box, that the security can be breached. My question for > all of this, is that I have someone that forgot their root password and they > had data they cannot loose. I don?t know which flavor of Linux it is. Any > help would be greatly appreciated from anyone out there. Thanks, > peter@thecybersource.com > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Fri May 11 10:47:07 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Weird? Daemon showing up in 'top' Message-ID: Thank you! I was not nearly so presumptuous to call it a bug. (That implies that I am knowledgeable enough to understand what it should look like!) But it is reassuring to know that the kernel isn't using 94% of it's time asking 'is anything happening yet?') Thanks to all for all the help in the past couple of days. I'll be able to bring 'hermione' on line soon to show at least this corner of the world that linux on a crippled desktop still beats NT on a couple of monster servers! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 Robert Dege ffalo.EDU> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Weird? Daemon showing up in 'top' owner-nflug@n flug.org 05/10/01 09:02 PM Please respond to nflug >>From a Linux listserv: The message quoted below is from a MandrakeSoft co-worker and friend, in a thread discussing APM's kernel thread, and how the idle function uses CPU time. This thread was in response to yet another Bugzilla bug report about kapm-idled using CPU time. Several months ago, kapmd was renamed to kapm-idled in an attempt to signal users that it was a special process, and that its CPU time wasn't "real CPU time." This hasn't silenced the bug reports and confusion. Is there some way to hack the scheduler statistics so that idle processes are special cases, which do not accumulate CPU time nor contribute to the load average? I agree that it's not pretty to special case idle function process(es), but those idle functions in turn are causing an incorrect picture of the system state to be presented to userland. -Rob > This isn't earth shaking, but... > > I'm getting a process showing up when I do a 'top' command called > kapm-idled > > I wouldn't really care about it but it claims to be 94.4% CPU time, which > seems awfully high. Of course, I definitely could be getting the wrong > inference while I am reading it, but it seems to be taking up a lot of the > processor. > > What is this doing? (Methinks and Advanced Power Management daemon, but I'm > looking for other, more knowledgeable guidance) Can I safely kill it? > Remove it? > > If it is APM, then I would like it gone, because this is a server I'm > configuring. I don't want to have to walk past it every 10 minutes and > wiggle the mouse! > > Thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 11 10:56:50 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Mandrake not a beta anymore... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010511145650.48137.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> It's hard to say. I downloaded the Beta 3 and by the time I got the time to burn the thing the release candidate was out. I downloaded and burned that a week or so later and the release hit the streets. I suspect that any differences may be in bug fixes or minor changes. You should be able to run the Mandrake Update utility to pull down newer versions of the things that are there. Cheers! --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > Are there real differences between Beta 3 of Mandrake and the current 8.0 > release? Iinstalled my B3 copy and it seems to be OK, so I would rather not > have to download and install again... > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 11 11:00:59 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010511150059.62106.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> I just replied to a previous post concerning this very topic. If the answer doesn't help, let me know and I'll try to help. Cheers! --- Cyber Source wrote: > Does anyone know how to get into a redhat system if you?ve forgotten the > root password and have no other users? > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From grayde at mail.com Fri May 11 11:25:04 2001 From: grayde at mail.com (devilus gray) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? Message-ID: <380549745.989594704647.JavaMail.root@web589-mc> lilo: linux init 1. Thats very interesting, But is there any way to disable this for security. ------Original Message------ From: Robert Dege To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Sent: May 11, 2001 12:59:50 AM GMT Subject: Re: anyone? At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Fri May 11 11:34:27 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? Message-ID: Way cool! This one is going in my archives, too! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Cyber Source" ource.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: anyone? owner-nflug@nflu g.org 05/10/01 10:03 PM Please respond to nflug Oh wise one, It Worked! Thank you very much! peter@thecybersource.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Dege Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:00 PM To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Subject: Re: anyone? At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 11 11:40:27 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: <380549745.989594704647.JavaMail.root@web589-mc> Message-ID: As Bob Meyer mentioned, lock the door, LOL -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of devilus gray Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:25 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: anyone? lilo: linux init 1. Thats very interesting, But is there any way to disable this for security. ------Original Message------ From: Robert Dege To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Sent: May 11, 2001 12:59:50 AM GMT Subject: Re: anyone? At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 11 12:01:57 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: <380549745.989594704647.JavaMail.root@web589-mc> Message-ID: I believe that LILO has password protection that you can use to prevent this. Also, you can have LILO NOT prompt prior to bootup (remove the prompt option in /etc/lilo.conf) As a last resort, you can move /bin/sh elsewhere. But this would cause other problems & probably isn't worth it. -Rob > lilo: linux init 1. > Thats very interesting, But is there any way to disable this for security. > > > > ------Original Message------ > From: Robert Dege > To: Niagara Frontier Linux User > Sent: May 11, 2001 12:59:50 AM GMT > Subject: Re: anyone? > > > > At the lilo prompt, type the following: > > (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) > > > lilo: linux init 1 > > > This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root > passwd. > > > Dege > > Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but > they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. > > > ______________________________________________ > FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com > Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Fri May 11 18:04:06 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: anyone? Message-ID: of course, after all of this, I needed it myself about ten minutes after I got the last post. Thanks again, everyone! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 From vlokstone at yahoo.com Sat May 12 14:31:39 2001 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: linux tutorials Message-ID: <20010512183139.39153.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> linux journal writer has nice articles on variety of topics. may help. give 'em a whirl. http://www.salmar.com/marcel/ljwritings.html ciao4now vlok __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Mon May 14 11:26:03 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: do you know arcast@coollink.net Message-ID: <3AFFF90B.5B108BD6@phor.com> hello, does anyone know arcast@coollink.net? all messages bound for this domain have been failing for the past 3 weeks to month. i'm going to remove him from the mailing list at the end of the day, so if anyone knows he/she please let them know. thanks -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Mon May 14 13:03:54 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: EXT3 Message-ID: Does anybody know if the 2.4 kernel has builtin support for the ext3 fs? I can only find 2.2 patch files.... but I can't find any info about whether it's in the 2.4 kernel, or if a patch hasn't been made for it yet. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Mon May 14 13:16:49 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: EXT3 Message-ID: Nevermind, I found my answer. RedHat has a listserv for those developing/beta testing ext3. FYI in regards to my question: ------------------------ On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 09:23:31AM -0500, Todd Harrington wrote: > > Does anyone know when a version of the ext3 filesystems (either beta or > production) will be available for the version 2.4 of the kernel? When it's done, and that depends on when I finish fixing core 2.4 bugs and move to the porting. Nobody knows when 2.4 will be stable: it's still corrupting data silently on ext2 under extreme loads (although we are finding possible cures now...) Cheers, Stephen ------------------------- All I can say is *crap* Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Tue May 15 16:22:24 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless References: Message-ID: <3B019000.E7F66215@phor.com> i like mrtg (Multi Router Traffic Grapher) for monitoring network traffic. it's written in perl and C and works on just about all platforms, unix and window$. http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > > After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a > question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found > out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that > purpose, but what programs actually do it? > > Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic > 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm > getting. > > Thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Tue May 15 16:28:53 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You could use ethereal. It shows you what protocols are being sent through network traffic. (ie: How many packets of IPX, TCP/IP, NetBIOS, etc.). It is even able to show the source location. www.ethereal.com -Rob > After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a > question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found > out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that > purpose, but what programs actually do it? > > Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic > 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm > getting. > > Thanks! > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From carlyos at Buffalo.com Tue May 15 16:31:25 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless Message-ID: <200105151631.AA155320932@mail.buffalo.com> I have a quick question. I was able to turn everything on in Redhat 7.0 suck as POP and such after searching for a bit, but where are the files you have to edit now in 7.1. Can't seem to find them again :) Seems every version they make it different to turn on the POP and such. Thanks ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Darin Perusich Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:22:24 +0000 >i like mrtg (Multi Router Traffic Grapher) for monitoring network >traffic. it's written in perl and C and works on just about all >platforms, unix and window$. > >http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html > >Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: >> >> After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a >> question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found >> out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that >> purpose, but what programs actually do it? >> >> Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic >> 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm >> getting. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Richard A. Hubbard III >> MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, >> A+, Net+,I-net+ >> Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo >> richard.hubbard@nhwny.com >> phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 >> (716) 206-2241 Direct >> fax (716) 206-2222 > >-- >Darin Perusich >Unix Administrator >Cognigen Corp. >darinper@cognigencorp.com > From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue May 15 16:35:01 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010515203501.58448.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Well, where do you want to start? :-) There's "nmap", "ethereal", "cheops", "tcpdump",... You get the idea. The best thing to do is check a couple of the sites like "freshmeat.net" for "network monitoring". A quick check on freshmeat shows 55 projects that match the generic "network monitoring" search pattern. Of the ones that I've looked at (cursory at best), I tend to like "ethereal". Their slogan appears to be: "Sniffing the glue that holds the internet together". Lots of good stuff out there, especially if you want to map your network or monitor stuff with SNMP. Cheers! Bob Meyer --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a > question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found > out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that > purpose, but what programs actually do it? > > Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic > 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm > getting. > > Thanks! > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Tue May 15 16:50:03 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless In-Reply-To: <200105151631.AA155320932@mail.buffalo.com> Message-ID: In 7.1, most of the services are located in the directory /etc/xinetd.d This doesn't contain info about a POP service , but other services like telnet, rlogin, ftp, etc. are located there. To activate any of these services, you need to modify the appropriate file (ie: >cd /etc/xinetd.d/ ; >vi telnet ) and either comment out or remove the line that says 'disable = yes' I prefer to comment out. This way, you don't have to remember the commands if you need to reimplement them in the future for some reason. Programs can be so finicky with config files :) Then all you have to do is restart xinetd & you're all set `/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart` As for a POP program, I'm not familiar with one that was installed with Redhat 7.1. All I'm familiar with is sendmail (in reference to mail delivery). But you can always install qpopper. A pretty good (and free) POP server. -Rob > I have a quick question. I was able to turn everything on in Redhat 7.0 suck as POP and such after searching for a bit, but where are the files you have to edit now in 7.1. Can't seem to find them again :) Seems every version they make it different to turn on the POP and such. > > > Thanks > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Darin Perusich > Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org > Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:22:24 +0000 > > >i like mrtg (Multi Router Traffic Grapher) for monitoring network > >traffic. it's written in perl and C and works on just about all > >platforms, unix and window$. > > > >http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html > > > >Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > >> > >> After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a > >> question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found > >> out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that > >> purpose, but what programs actually do it? > >> > >> Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic > >> 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm > >> getting. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Richard A. Hubbard III > >> MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > >> A+, Net+,I-net+ > >> Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > >> richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > >> phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > >> (716) 206-2241 Direct > >> fax (716) 206-2222 > > > >-- > >Darin Perusich > >Unix Administrator > >Cognigen Corp. > >darinper@cognigencorp.com > > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Tue May 15 19:10:19 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless Message-ID: After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that purpose, but what programs actually do it? Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm getting. Thanks! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 From wmelbrod at mandtbank.com Wed May 16 07:26:09 2001 From: wmelbrod at mandtbank.com (Wayne Melbrod) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Linux Course Message-ID: As a positive note: I ran across a Linux course being offered this fall at U.B. Has anybody ever taken it? It's good to see Linux getting formal recognition. Usually (non computer science) corses/training at UB tend to be windows centric. Is S. Crowley a local expert/advocate? Your thoughts? - Wayne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (snip: From the online catalog) MFC 213 - LINUX Section MFC Lecture, 3.00 credits Registration #: 118056 Time: W, 19:00 - 21:40 Dates: 08/27/2001 - 12/07/2001 Location: 115 BALDY [view map] Instructor: CROWLEY, S From chrism at fsenablers.com Wed May 16 09:31:34 2001 From: chrism at fsenablers.com (Chris Martin) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Linux Course In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I haven't taken it yet, but I will be taking it next semester (fall). I don't know what book they are using yet (usually a pretty good indicator of how the course will go. I really hope its not one of those teach yourself foo in X days/hours/minutes books.) I'm taking primarily for the easy A (and I really hope the prof doesn't happen to be on this list). In any event, I can let you know how the class goes once I start taking it. Chris Martin Lead Developer, FSenablers, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Wayne Melbrod Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:26 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Linux Course As a positive note: I ran across a Linux course being offered this fall at U.B. Has anybody ever taken it? It's good to see Linux getting formal recognition. Usually (non computer science) corses/training at UB tend to be windows centric. Is S. Crowley a local expert/advocate? Your thoughts? - Wayne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (snip: From the online catalog) MFC 213 - LINUX Section MFC Lecture, 3.00 credits Registration #: 118056 Time: W, 19:00 - 21:40 Dates: 08/27/2001 - 12/07/2001 Location: 115 BALDY [view map] Instructor: CROWLEY, S From wmelbrod at mandtbank.com Wed May 16 13:52:12 2001 From: wmelbrod at mandtbank.com (Wayne Melbrod) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Linux Course Message-ID: I signed up for it as well. So we are classmates. You will recognize me. I will be the guy sitting in the back in fear that the class will filll up with Debian - lovin guru's. I am really looking forward to a hard C. :-) >>> chrism@fsenablers.com 05/16/01 09:31AM >>> I haven't taken it yet, but I will be taking it next semester (fall). I don't know what book they are using yet (usually a pretty good indicator of how the course will go. I really hope its not one of those teach yourself foo in X days/hours/minutes books.) I'm taking primarily for the easy A (and I really hope the prof doesn't happen to be on this list). In any event, I can let you know how the class goes once I start taking it. Chris Martin Lead Developer, FSenablers, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Wayne Melbrod Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:26 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Linux Course As a positive note: I ran across a Linux course being offered this fall at U.B. Has anybody ever taken it? It's good to see Linux getting formal recognition. Usually (non computer science) corses/training at UB tend to be windows centric. Is S. Crowley a local expert/advocate? Your thoughts? - Wayne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (snip: From the online catalog) MFC 213 - LINUX Section MFC Lecture, 3.00 credits Registration #: 118056 Time: W, 19:00 - 21:40 Dates: 08/27/2001 - 12/07/2001 Location: 115 BALDY [view map] Instructor: CROWLEY, S From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Wed May 16 14:14:58 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: sunday's meeting Message-ID: <3B02C3A2.90742609@phor.com> hello, i've revieved a few emails from interested people inquiring if there is a meeting this sunday. i won't be able to make it, the army reserve doesn't see a LUG meeting as a legitimate excuse to miss drill. if they only knew. i'll also be updating the web page tonight to reflect this weekend also. thanks -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Wed May 16 19:16:04 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless Message-ID: Thanks to all! I had completely forgotten about freshmeat.net! I'll see what I have already in my bag of tricks, and then do a download or two. Again, thanks very much for the help! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 Robert Meyer cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless owner-nflug@n flug.org 05/15/01 04:35 PM Please respond to nflug Well, where do you want to start? :-) There's "nmap", "ethereal", "cheops", "tcpdump",... You get the idea. The best thing to do is check a couple of the sites like "freshmeat.net" for "network monitoring". A quick check on freshmeat shows 55 projects that match the generic "network monitoring" search pattern. Of the ones that I've looked at (cursory at best), I tend to like "ethereal". Their slogan appears to be: "Sniffing the glue that holds the internet together". Lots of good stuff out there, especially if you want to map your network or monitor stuff with SNMP. Cheers! Bob Meyer --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a > question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found > out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that > purpose, but what programs actually do it? > > Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic > 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm > getting. > > Thanks! > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From tracy.hochheimer at sympatico.ca Wed May 16 22:55:56 2001 From: tracy.hochheimer at sympatico.ca (Gregory D Hough) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Linux Course References: Message-ID: <3B033DBC.5507BD3C@sympatico.ca> Chris Martin wrote: > > I haven't taken it yet, but I will be taking it next semester (fall). I > don't know what book they are using yet (usually a pretty good indicator of > how the course will go. I really hope its not one of those teach yourself > foo in X days/hours/minutes books.) I'm taking primarily for the easy A If it is "Linux for DUMMIES" I would avoid it.... > (and I really hope the prof doesn't happen to be on this list). In any > event, I can let you know how the class goes once I start taking it. -- farmer greg http://www3.sympatico.ca/tracy.hochheimer/index.html From wmelbrod at mandtbank.com Thu May 17 07:34:55 2001 From: wmelbrod at mandtbank.com (Wayne Melbrod) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Meeting This Sunday Message-ID: Is there a meeting this Sunday? I was hoping to get a copy of Mandrake 8.0. Regards, Wayne From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Thu May 17 08:29:15 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: Meeting This Sunday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have both ISO images on my machine. If there is a meeting this Sunday, I could burn a copy or 3 ;) It's been a while since I've been there, but it's at the Statler building, 1pm, correct? > Is there a meeting this Sunday? I was hoping to get a copy of Mandrake 8.0. > > Regards, > Wayne > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From carl.luberti at eds.com Thu May 17 11:06:55 2001 From: carl.luberti at eds.com (Luberti, Carl) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:27 2005 Subject: seems like IBM is getting to us (my employer, that is)... Message-ID: Just wanted to let anyone know that EDS (Electronic Data Systems) has added Linux to it's list of supported operating systems, and has started a training program for internal support personnel, management, and sales as well. This course IS NOT a dummies course, and is tailored to the needs of it's pupils (the sales guys learn how to sell it, management learns how to do something (whatever management actually does :), and support and design personnel learn the ins and outs, from a basic level to a very advanced level. These courses are being offered to all employees in the organization. Seems like IBM (our biggest competitor) has gotten to upper management. I'm glad they've started this though. I know this doesn't affect anyone, but when any company, especially one with the clout that EDS (or IBM) has, it's a good thing for the community and open source in general. EDS still thinks Windows for the desktop and Unix for high availability servers and large clusters, but everything in between has been labeled "fair game" for Linux. A business case no longer needs to be made, and Linux can be used on high end workstations, web servers, mail servers (goodbye Exchange!!!), and small to medium size clusters and application/database servers. We can use Debian, TurboLinux, Caldera OpenDesktop and Server, RedHat, and FreeBSD/NetBSD as stated. I'm in heaven (almost)... > Carlo Luberti > EDS - New York Solution Centre > NYSC Design Cell - Platform > 25 Northpointe Pkwy. > Amherst, NY 14228 > * phone: +01-716-564-6678 > * pager: +01-716-623-9062 > * mailto:carl.luberti@eds.com > http://www.eds.com > > From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 17 12:01:33 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Meeting This Sunday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010517160133.63759.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Yep, there's a meeting. I'm going to be bringing several copies of Mandrake 8.0 with me. Cheers! Bob --- Wayne Melbrod wrote: > Is there a meeting this Sunday? I was hoping to get a copy of Mandrake 8.0. > > Regards, > Wayne > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 17 12:03:07 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Meeting This Sunday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010517160307.73087.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> You can bring some if you want. I was given a bunch of CD-Rs for this purpose, so if you bring some and hand them out, we can replace the disks that you use. I'm bringing a bunch of copies with me, too. I suspect that with the both of us bringing some, we'll have enough :-) Cheers! Bob --- Robert Dege wrote: > > I have both ISO images on my machine. If there is a meeting this Sunday, > I could burn a copy or 3 ;) > > It's been a while since I've been there, but it's at the Statler building, > 1pm, correct? > > > Is there a meeting this Sunday? I was hoping to get a copy of Mandrake > 8.0. > > > > Regards, > > Wayne > > > > > > > > Dege > > Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but > they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Thu May 17 12:14:08 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: [Fwd: LINUX EXPO NEW YORK !!!] Message-ID: <3B03F8D0.C2BEB87B@phor.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D6C3152A0D130F7DB98A0F17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, this came in this afternoon, would this be of interest to anyone. -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com --------------D6C3152A0D130F7DB98A0F17 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from randi.phor.com (randi.phor.com [209.118.201.19]) by petard.phor.com (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) with ESMTP id e4HG3Hs16606 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:03:17 -0400 Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by randi.phor.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21623 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 11:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrea ([64.231.238.27]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010517160140.EOJD16174.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@andrea> for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 12:01:40 -0400 From: "Andrea Roy" To: Subject: LINUX EXPO NEW YORK !!! Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:01:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: High X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Hello dear lug, This is my 3td emails....hope you will have time to answer me today !!! I am studing very seriously now the possibility of doing 2 days conferences in New York before the end of this year. It would be technical talks only. Our tagetted audience would be: IT Manager IT Project Manager Webmaster Network Operation Staff Software Support Staff Engineer Program Analyst Development Engineer Technical Advisor Graphic Creator I would have 7 sponsors (linux/or open source companies) that would pay to be a sponsor: they would have included : 2 conferences of 40 minutes each Demontration table for your products Logo and link on our website Logo on all our publicities Visitor's Database Public Relation (media, press etc�) something like that. I need the local lugs support, for sure, I am doing the samething here in Montreal, June 13 and 14th. I would love to do something in New York What I am looking for : 1- Have the your lug support (exchange of logo, help on site for the registration etc etc... no money involved)and other LUG of your area 2- Find a technical school in New York where people would go to attend. (350 places at least) (WOuld you have names?? COllege, University etc) If I don't have your support there is no point for me to do something in your area. It is very important for me. Please get back to me to let me know what you think of the project. I have to pick 2 cities for 2001 and another 5 for 2002. The concept is great (I think :-) and I do it for the tech people that we forget most of the time !! Sorry for my english that is not perfect !! Warmest regards, Andrea Roy Directrice/Director Skyevents Am�riques Tel: 514 842 2221 Cel: 514 999 9792 www.linux-expo.com Montreal, June 13-14, 2001- Canada www.linuxexpomontreal.com Sao Paulo May 9-10, 2001- Brazil Shanghai May 15-18, 2001- China Milan June 6-7, 2001- Italy Birmingham, September 12-13, 2001, UK Road Show East Country September, 2001 2002 Paris January 30-31-1, 2002- France Amsterdam February 19,20, 2002- Netherlands Madrid April, 3-4, 2002- Espana Very Soon Linux Expo Mexico, Germany, Singapore --------------D6C3152A0D130F7DB98A0F17-- From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 17 15:30:40 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: seems like IBM is getting to us (my employer, that is)... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010517193040.60704.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> This is just WAY cool! Sounds like EDS is being dragged into the fray. This can only be good for the Linux world. Where do I sign up? :-) Bob --- "Luberti, Carl" wrote: > Just wanted to let anyone know that EDS (Electronic Data Systems) has added > Linux to it's list of supported operating systems, and has started a > training program for internal support personnel, management, and sales as > well. This course IS NOT a dummies course, and is tailored to the needs of > it's pupils (the sales guys learn how to sell it, management learns how to > do something (whatever management actually does :), and support and design > personnel learn the ins and outs, from a basic level to a very advanced > level. These courses are being offered to all employees in the > organization. Seems like IBM (our biggest competitor) has gotten to upper > management. I'm glad they've started this though. I know this doesn't > affect anyone, but when any company, especially one with the clout that EDS > (or IBM) has, it's a good thing for the community and open source in > general. EDS still thinks Windows for the desktop and Unix for high > availability servers and large clusters, but everything in between has been > labeled "fair game" for Linux. A business case no longer needs to be made, > and Linux can be used on high end workstations, web servers, mail servers > (goodbye Exchange!!!), and small to medium size clusters and > application/database servers. We can use Debian, TurboLinux, Caldera > OpenDesktop and Server, RedHat, and FreeBSD/NetBSD as stated. I'm in heaven > (almost)... > > > Carlo Luberti > > EDS - New York Solution Centre > > NYSC Design Cell - Platform > > 25 Northpointe Pkwy. > > Amherst, NY 14228 > > * phone: +01-716-564-6678 > > * pager: +01-716-623-9062 > > * mailto:carl.luberti@eds.com > > http://www.eds.com > > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From carl.luberti at eds.com Thu May 17 15:55:30 2001 From: carl.luberti at eds.com (Luberti, Carl) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: seems like IBM is getting to us (my employer, that is)... Message-ID: http://www.eds.com :) -----Original Message----- From: Robert Meyer [mailto:meyer_rm@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:31 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: seems like IBM is getting to us (my employer, that is)... This is just WAY cool! Sounds like EDS is being dragged into the fray. This can only be good for the Linux world. Where do I sign up? :-) Bob --- "Luberti, Carl" wrote: > Just wanted to let anyone know that EDS (Electronic Data Systems) has added > Linux to it's list of supported operating systems, and has started a > training program for internal support personnel, management, and sales as > well. This course IS NOT a dummies course, and is tailored to the needs of > it's pupils (the sales guys learn how to sell it, management learns how to > do something (whatever management actually does :), and support and design > personnel learn the ins and outs, from a basic level to a very advanced > level. These courses are being offered to all employees in the > organization. Seems like IBM (our biggest competitor) has gotten to upper > management. I'm glad they've started this though. I know this doesn't > affect anyone, but when any company, especially one with the clout that EDS > (or IBM) has, it's a good thing for the community and open source in > general. EDS still thinks Windows for the desktop and Unix for high > availability servers and large clusters, but everything in between has been > labeled "fair game" for Linux. A business case no longer needs to be made, > and Linux can be used on high end workstations, web servers, mail servers > (goodbye Exchange!!!), and small to medium size clusters and > application/database servers. We can use Debian, TurboLinux, Caldera > OpenDesktop and Server, RedHat, and FreeBSD/NetBSD as stated. I'm in heaven > (almost)... > > > Carlo Luberti > > EDS - New York Solution Centre > > NYSC Design Cell - Platform > > 25 Northpointe Pkwy. > > Amherst, NY 14228 > > * phone: +01-716-564-6678 > > * pager: +01-716-623-9062 > > * mailto:carl.luberti@eds.com > > http://www.eds.com > > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From josephj at adelphia.net Fri May 18 09:09:43 2001 From: josephj at adelphia.net (Joe Pollock) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: lilo.conf? Message-ID: <006f01c0df9b$ce8c4cc0$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C0DF7A.46F465C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. I'm running Red Hat 7.0 on a dual boot system with Windoz 98 se. = Can someone post a lilo.conf file that will default boot to Windoz? = I've tried several things and they all seem to be ignored. Thanks. Joe ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C0DF7A.46F465C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C0DF7A.46F465C0-- From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Fri May 18 09:21:34 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: question for windows2000 admins Message-ID: <3B0521DE.6B70CDF9@phor.com> hello, i'm looking for a way to disable outlook express on a windows 2000 machine running terminal services. we're using citrix metaframe to push the all mighty office 2000 out to our unix clients and we don't want users using outlook. we've actually found that you can disable the execution of outlook itself but internet explorer can still call it up. how evil is that! any suggestions are much appreciated. -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 18 09:37:41 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: question for windows2000 admins In-Reply-To: <3B0521DE.6B70CDF9@phor.com> Message-ID: You should be able to go to the outlook express program itself and in the security section, either remove all permissions or deny them all, or as needed. peter@thecybersource.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Darin Perusich Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:22 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: question for windows2000 admins hello, i'm looking for a way to disable outlook express on a windows 2000 machine running terminal services. we're using citrix metaframe to push the all mighty office 2000 out to our unix clients and we don't want users using outlook. we've actually found that you can disable the execution of outlook itself but internet explorer can still call it up. how evil is that! any suggestions are much appreciated. -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 18 10:58:37 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? Message-ID: <20010518145837.33966.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have a list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a buncha folks :-) We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have opinions on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that we can get some varied opinions on the subject. Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From carlyos at Buffalo.com Fri May 18 11:05:40 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? Message-ID: <200105181105.AA6488718@mail.buffalo.com> Hehehehe yea how about finding the file to allow access to port 110 on redhat 7.1. I still can't find it in all the places it was in 6.0 or 7.0, grrrrr :). Why does Redhat change everything up like that will each version. Maybe I should drop solaris 8 for intel on instead :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Robert Meyer Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT) >Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have a >list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a >buncha folks :-) > >We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we >have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have opinions >on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any >takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that we >can get some varied opinions on the subject. > >Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? > >Cheers! > >Bob > >===== >Bob Meyer >Knightwing Communications, Inc. >36 Cayuga Blvd >Depew, NY 14043 >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 18 11:29:03 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? In-Reply-To: <200105181105.AA6488718@mail.buffalo.com> Message-ID: I think a better question is what pop3 program do you have installed? I'm running 7.1 at work, & I still can't find a pop3 server installed by default. However, 110 access is controlled through /etc/services. If it isn't specified in there (or if it's commented out), then it won't work. Plus you also need a daemon listening on that port ;) hey Bob, how about an intro to FrameBuffer in console mode? it includes kernel hacking, lilo hacking, and offers some really cool results. I'd be more than happy to implement it on someone's machine (I don't think I'll be bringing mine this Sunday). I'm going to build a Frankenstein machine instead :) Or what about info on Samba? -Rob > Hehehehe yea how about finding the file to allow access to port 110 on redhat 7.1. I still can't find it in all the places it was in 6.0 or 7.0, grrrrr :). Why does Redhat change everything up like that will each version. Maybe I should drop solaris 8 for intel on instead :) > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Robert Meyer > Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org > Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT) > > >Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have a > >list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a > >buncha folks :-) > > > >We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we > >have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have opinions > >on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any > >takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that we > >can get some varied opinions on the subject. > > > >Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? > > > >Cheers! > > > >Bob > > > >===== > >Bob Meyer > >Knightwing Communications, Inc. > >36 Cayuga Blvd > >Depew, NY 14043 > >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From carlyos at Buffalo.com Fri May 18 11:41:15 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? Message-ID: <200105181141.AA1313669736@mail.buffalo.com> Hehehehe well then I guess I am not running one then either because I was looking for the default one also :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Robert Dege Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:29:03 -0400 (EDT) > >I think a better question is what pop3 program do you have installed? I'm >running 7.1 at work, & I still can't find a pop3 server installed by >default. > >However, 110 access is controlled through /etc/services. If it isn't >specified in there (or if it's commented out), then it won't work. > >Plus you also need a daemon listening on that port ;) > > >hey Bob, how about an intro to FrameBuffer in console mode? it includes >kernel hacking, lilo hacking, and offers some really cool results. I'd be >more than happy to implement it on someone's machine (I don't think I'll >be bringing mine this Sunday). I'm going to build a Frankenstein >machine instead :) > >Or what about info on Samba? > > >-Rob > >> Hehehehe yea how about finding the file to allow access to port 110 on redhat 7.1. I still can't find it in all the places it was in 6.0 or 7.0, grrrrr :). Why does Redhat change everything up like that will each version. Maybe I should drop solaris 8 for intel on instead :) >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: Robert Meyer >> Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have a >> >list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a >> >buncha folks :-) >> > >> >We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we >> >have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have opinions >> >on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any >> >takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that we >> >can get some varied opinions on the subject. >> > >> >Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? >> > >> >Cheers! >> > >> >Bob >> > >> >===== >> >Bob Meyer >> >Knightwing Communications, Inc. >> >36 Cayuga Blvd >> >Depew, NY 14043 >> >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 >> >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Do You Yahoo!? >> >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >> >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> > >> > > > >Dege > >Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but >they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. > > From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 18 11:48:39 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? In-Reply-To: <200105181105.AA6488718@mail.buffalo.com> Message-ID: <20010518154839.79465.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Three places: /etc/services to make sure that 110 is assigned to pop, /etc/inetd.conf to make sure that there is a program to fire off when someone connects to port 110, /etc/hosts.allow (and hosts.deny) to make sure that TCP Wrapper will allow the connection to port 110. You also want to make sure that the programs 'tcpd' and the pop program mentioned in inetd.conf exist. Cheers! Bob --- Carl Yost wrote: > Hehehehe yea how about finding the file to allow access to port 110 on redhat > 7.1. I still can't find it in all the places it was in 6.0 or 7.0, grrrrr :). > Why does Redhat change everything up like that will each version. Maybe I > should drop solaris 8 for intel on instead :) > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Robert Meyer > Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org > Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT) > > >Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have > a > >list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a > >buncha folks :-) > > > >We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we > >have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have > opinions > >on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any > >takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that > we > >can get some varied opinions on the subject. > > > >Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? > > > >Cheers! > > > >Bob > > > >===== > >Bob Meyer > >Knightwing Communications, Inc. > >36 Cayuga Blvd > >Depew, NY 14043 > >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 18 11:52:26 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: lilo.conf? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That must have something to do with the mbr, I had the same problem when I mirrored a drive and then tried to boot with it -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:32 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: lilo.conf? This may be a really stupid suggestion, but this fixed a similar problem I was having. I had the dreaded LI startup problem with a large hard drive. So I talked to some really smart people, and they told me to put LBA32 in lilo.conf. and still got LI, for several reboots (i used a boot floppy to start up when the hard drive didn't) finally, I was told, that after changing lilo.conf, you have to run lilo in that session to make the changes to the MBR. Sorry if you already did that, but that's just my best guess from my experience. Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Joe Pollock" phia.net> cc: Sent by: Subject: lilo.conf? owner-nflug@n flug.org 05/18/01 09:09 AM Please respond to nflug Hi. I'm running Red Hat 7.0 on a dual boot system with Windoz 98 se. Can someone post a lilo.conf file that will default boot to Windoz? I've tried several things and they all seem to be ignored. Thanks. Joe From carlyos at Buffalo.com Fri May 18 11:56:01 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? Message-ID: <200105181156.AA32047764@mail.buffalo.com> Thanks ! ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Robert Meyer Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:48:39 -0700 (PDT) >Three places: /etc/services to make sure that 110 is assigned to pop, >/etc/inetd.conf to make sure that there is a program to fire off when someone >connects to port 110, /etc/hosts.allow (and hosts.deny) to make sure that TCP >Wrapper will allow the connection to port 110. You also want to make sure that >the programs 'tcpd' and the pop program mentioned in inetd.conf exist. > >Cheers! > >Bob >--- Carl Yost wrote: >> Hehehehe yea how about finding the file to allow access to port 110 on redhat >> 7.1. I still can't find it in all the places it was in 6.0 or 7.0, grrrrr :). >> Why does Redhat change everything up like that will each version. Maybe I >> should drop solaris 8 for intel on instead :) >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: Robert Meyer >> Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have >> a >> >list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a >> >buncha folks :-) >> > >> >We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we >> >have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have >> opinions >> >on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any >> >takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that >> we >> >can get some varied opinions on the subject. >> > >> >Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? >> > >> >Cheers! >> > >> >Bob >> > >> >===== >> >Bob Meyer >> >Knightwing Communications, Inc. >> >36 Cayuga Blvd >> >Depew, NY 14043 >> >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 >> >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Do You Yahoo!? >> >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >> >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> > > > >===== >Bob Meyer >Knightwing Communications, Inc. >36 Cayuga Blvd >Depew, NY 14043 >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From sonofrage at yahoo.com Fri May 18 12:06:18 2001 From: sonofrage at yahoo.com (Samuel Morales Jr.) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: [Fwd: LINUX EXPO NEW YORK !!!] In-Reply-To: <3B03F8D0.C2BEB87B@phor.com> Message-ID: <20010518160618.49212.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> I got the same email for my group. When I responded that I was interested she starting talking about people paying $300 for a 2 day conference. =P --- Darin Perusich wrote: > hello, > > this came in this afternoon, would this be of > interest to anyone. > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > From: "Andrea Roy" > To: > Subject: LINUX EXPO NEW YORK !!! > Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:01:00 -0400 > > Hello dear lug, > > This is my 3td emails....hope you will have time to > answer me today !!! > > > I am studing very seriously now the possibility of > doing 2 days conferences > in New York before the end of this year. It would > be technical talks only. > Our tagetted audience would be: > > IT Manager > IT Project Manager > Webmaster > Network Operation Staff > Software Support Staff > Engineer > Program Analyst > Development Engineer > Technical Advisor > Graphic Creator > > I would have 7 sponsors (linux/or open source > companies) that would pay to > be a sponsor: they would have included : > > 2 conferences of 40 minutes each > Demontration table for your products > Logo and link on our website > Logo on all our publicities > Visitor's Database > Public Relation (media, press etc?) > > something like that. > > I need the local lugs support, for sure, I am doing > the samething here in > Montreal, June 13 and 14th. > > I would love to do something in New York > > What I am looking for : > > 1- Have the your lug support (exchange of logo, help > on site for the > registration etc etc... no money involved)and other > LUG of your area > > 2- Find a technical school in New York where people > would go to attend. (350 > places at least) > (WOuld you have names?? COllege, University etc) > > If I don't have your support there is no point for > me to do something in > your area. It is very important for me. > > Please get back to me to let me know what you think > of the project. > > I have to pick 2 cities for 2001 and another 5 for > 2002. The concept is > great (I think :-) and I do it for the tech people > that we forget most of > the time !! > > Sorry for my english that is not perfect !! > > Warmest regards, > > > Andrea Roy > Directrice/Director Skyevents Am�riques > > Tel: 514 842 2221 > Cel: 514 999 9792 > > www.linux-expo.com > > Montreal, June 13-14, 2001- Canada > www.linuxexpomontreal.com > > Sao Paulo May 9-10, 2001- Brazil > Shanghai May 15-18, 2001- China > Milan June 6-7, 2001- Italy > Birmingham, September 12-13, 2001, UK > Road Show East Country September, 2001 > > 2002 > Paris January 30-31-1, 2002- France > Amsterdam February 19,20, 2002- Netherlands > Madrid April, 3-4, 2002- Espana > > Very Soon Linux Expo > Mexico, Germany, Singapore > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Fri May 18 13:32:58 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? -- Suggestion In-Reply-To: <20010518145837.33966.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006101c0dfc0$951b67d0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> All: I would be very interested on Linux security practices. Working for the government security is one of our main concerns. At this point a Linux server cannot be used unless a formal security plan has been typed up and a flow chart made. This makes it kind of hard to document a security plan for an OS that has no "true" standards unless standards are made by the SysAd. Finding out what practices for security are used in the "Industry" for linux would really help. Things I would like to know: * Linux Security Measurements -- Network * " " -- Users * " " -- System/Configuration * " " -- Public Services (FTP, HTTP, Secure Shell, Chroot environments [how-to]) * Virus Scanning and/or Virus secuirty practices * Server Fail-Over practices (If the main server is attacked and brought down what type of configuration should the fail-over server have to ensure that the same attack will not affect it as did the primary server). All of the above topics are required to be in full documentation before any system here is brought online. Once these procedures are approved then the server can go into "production". At some point I also would like to learn how to secure the network using Linux's routing features (now incorporated into the kernel for 2.4?) and best security practices for DNS/Bind ( This could be a whole meeting in itself). Thank You for Your Time! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Meyer Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:59 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have a list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a buncha folks :-) We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have opinions on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that we can get some varied opinions on the subject. Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Fri May 18 13:40:51 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: lilo.conf? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006301c0dfc1$aeac6630$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> In my experiences Ive noticed that the simplest answer is usuall the solution. After you made the changes to the linux.conf file did you run lilo before rebooting? Dont take offense to this answer but I know when I was setting up my machine a while back, mind you it was like 2am, I forgot to run lilo after making changes. Because of that I wasted like 3 hours!!! Ill NEVER make that mistake again. Also try this link it may help -- http://www.lugor.org/sig/newbie/lilo/ Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:32 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: lilo.conf? This may be a really stupid suggestion, but this fixed a similar problem I was having. I had the dreaded LI startup problem with a large hard drive. So I talked to some really smart people, and they told me to put LBA32 in lilo.conf. and still got LI, for several reboots (i used a boot floppy to start up when the hard drive didn't) finally, I was told, that after changing lilo.conf, you have to run lilo in that session to make the changes to the MBR. Sorry if you already did that, but that's just my best guess from my experience. Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Joe Pollock" phia.net> cc: Sent by: Subject: lilo.conf? owner-nflug@n flug.org 05/18/01 09:09 AM Please respond to nflug Hi. I'm running Red Hat 7.0 on a dual boot system with Windoz 98 se. Can someone post a lilo.conf file that will default boot to Windoz? I've tried several things and they all seem to be ignored. Thanks. Joe From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Fri May 18 14:31:40 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: lilo.conf? Message-ID: This may be a really stupid suggestion, but this fixed a similar problem I was having. I had the dreaded LI startup problem with a large hard drive. So I talked to some really smart people, and they told me to put LBA32 in lilo.conf. and still got LI, for several reboots (i used a boot floppy to start up when the hard drive didn't) finally, I was told, that after changing lilo.conf, you have to run lilo in that session to make the changes to the MBR. Sorry if you already did that, but that's just my best guess from my experience. Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Joe Pollock" phia.net> cc: Sent by: Subject: lilo.conf? owner-nflug@n flug.org 05/18/01 09:09 AM Please respond to nflug Hi. I'm running Red Hat 7.0 on a dual boot system with Windoz 98 se. Can someone post a lilo.conf file that will default boot to Windoz? I've tried several things and they all seem to be ignored. Thanks. Joe From josephj at adelphia.net Fri May 18 14:37:06 2001 From: josephj at adelphia.net (Joe Pollock) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Sunday Message-ID: <001a01c0dfc9$ce8de480$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DFA8.0353D7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. I am hoping to attend with my machine. I have a bunch of small = issues that I need help with - most notably, getting ftape installed and = running. I am looking for a ride from the Williamsville area (near Maple and = North Forest). See you soon. Joe ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DFA8.0353D7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi. I am hoping to attend with my machine. I have a = bunch of=20 small issues that I need help with - most notably, getting ftape = installed and=20 running.

I am looking for a ride from the Williamsville area (near Maple and = North=20 Forest).

See you soon. Joe

------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DFA8.0353D7A0-- From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Fri May 18 14:51:58 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Server for Sale Message-ID: <007a01c0dfcb$9e8538e0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C0DFAA.177398E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know I announced a while back that I was getting rid of my server, well here it is. A few emails were recieved saying that everyone is always looking for servers -- Here is what Im getting rid of: Ebay Posting: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1239049954 Personal Posting: www.sherman2k.com (Personal contact information on the site) If you know anyone interested please forward this email and if your lead buys the server I will include a small finders fee to be determined at the time of the sale (nothing crazy and must be agreed by all parties). Thank You, Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C0DFAA.177398E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I know = I announced a=20 while back that I was getting rid of my server, well here it is. A = few=20 emails were recieved saying that everyone is always looking = for servers --=20 Here is what Im getting rid of:

Ebay = Posting: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1239= 049954

Personal Posting: www.sherman2k.com (Personal = contact=20 information on the site)

If you = know anyone=20 interested please forward this email and if your lead buys the server I = will=20 include a small finders fee to be determined at the time of the sale = (nothing=20 crazy and must be agreed by all parties).

Thank=20 You,

Ronald K. Wechter
Network Systems=20 Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C0DFAA.177398E0-- From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Fri May 18 14:55:11 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Sunday In-Reply-To: <001a01c0dfc9$ce8de480$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <008101c0dfcc$115eecd0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0DFAA.8A4D4CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe I am close to that area -- Give me some contact information so we can schedule times. (I live About 10min away from you -- Cheektowaga Area) Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Joe Pollock Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:37 PM To: NFLUG Subject: Sunday Hi. I am hoping to attend with my machine. I have a bunch of small issues that I need help with - most notably, getting ftape installed and running. I am looking for a ride from the Williamsville area (near Maple and North Forest). See you soon. Joe ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0DFAA.8A4D4CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Joe I=20 am close to that area -- Give me some contact information so we can = schedule=20 times. (I live About 10min away from you -- Cheektowaga=20 Area)

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-nflug@nflug.org=20 [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Joe = Pollock
Sent:=20 Friday, May 18, 2001 2:37 PM
To: NFLUG
Subject:=20 Sunday

Hi. I am hoping to attend with my machine. I have a = bunch of=20 small issues that I need help with - most notably, getting ftape = installed and=20 running.

I am looking for a ride from the Williamsville area (near Maple = and North=20 Forest).

See you soon. Joe

------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0DFAA.8A4D4CD0-- From josephj at adelphia.net Fri May 18 23:54:53 2001 From: josephj at adelphia.net (Joe Pollock) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Sunday References: <008101c0dfcc$115eecd0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <004e01c0e017$76cba0e0$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0DFF5.EEF09660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ronald K. Wechter=20 To: nflug@nflug.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:55 PM Subject: RE: Sunday Joe I am close to that area -- Give me some contact information so we = can schedule times. (I live About 10min away from you -- Cheektowaga = Area) Ron Thanks a lot. Send me an email at josephj@adelphia.net. Then I'll have = your email address so I can send you all my contact info privately. No = point in putting all that out on the list. Type to you soon. Joe ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0DFF5.EEF09660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ronald K. Wechter
To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:55 = PM

Subject: RE: Sunday

Joe=20 I am close to that area -- Give me some contact information so we can = schedule=20 times. (I live About 10min away from you -- Cheektowaga=20 Area)

Ron

Thanks a lot. Send me an email at josephj@adelphia.net. = Then I'll=20 have your email address so I can send you all my contact info=20 privately. No point in putting all that out on the list. Type to = you=20 soon<g>. Joe

------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0DFF5.EEF09660-- From javabob at localnet.com Sun May 20 05:52:32 2001 From: javabob at localnet.com (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? -- Suggestion References: <006101c0dfc0$951b67d0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <3B0793E0.6A125831@localnet.com> "Ronald K. Wechter" wrote: > All: > > I would be very interested on Linux security practices. Working for the > government security is one of our main concerns. At this point a Linux > server cannot be used unless a formal security plan has been typed up and a > flow chart made. This makes it kind of hard to document a security plan for > an OS that has no "true" standards unless standards are made by the SysAd. > Finding out what practices for security are used in the "Industry" for linux > would really help. > > Things I would like to know: > * Linux Security Measurements -- Network > * " " -- Users > * " " -- System/Configuration > * " " -- Public Services (FTP, HTTP, Secure Shell, > Chroot environments [how-to]) > * Virus Scanning and/or Virus secuirty practices > * Server Fail-Over practices (If the main server is attacked and brought > down what type of configuration should the fail-over server have to ensure > that the same attack will not affect it as did the primary server). > > All of the above topics are required to be in full documentation before any > system here is brought online. Once these procedures are approved then the > server can go into "production". At some point I also would like to learn > how to secure the network using Linux's routing features (now incorporated > into the kernel for 2.4?) and best security practices for DNS/Bind ( This > could be a whole meeting in itself). > > Thank You for Your Time! > > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > Robert Meyer > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:59 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? > > Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have > a > list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a > buncha folks :-) > > We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we > have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have > opinions > on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any > takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that > we > can get some varied opinions on the subject. > > Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? > > Cheers! > > Bob > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Have you considered a virtual "UML" box? There are 2 ways to implement it that are Open Source and free. UML is User Mode Linux and works only with Linux and is reportedly a great method for testing new kernels, diferent distributions on one box and as a secure gateway for connected boxes. There was an article on this in one of the Linux magazines I subscribe to (Linux Journal, Linux Magazine, Maximum Linux, Sys Admin, or Enterprise Linux Jourmal) The second way and one I may try my self is with PLEX86 (www.plex86.org). This is the Open Source version of VMware as I understand it. It allows you to run Windows or another distribution of Linux in a Linux Virtual Machine. Similar to Win4Lin and VMware. The security comes from setting up your exposed services in a virtual machine. The would be attacker or snoop can only, if sucessful, mess with the exposed VM and cannot gain access outside that VM. Internally, access to the exposed VM is granted by group and user permissions and mounting the created virtual partition either as a NFS or SMB mount. How everything goes together is something I would like to investigate if and when I find time. Hope this info is something you can use. Bob Stockdale javabob@localnet.com From josephj at adelphia.net Sun May 20 10:12:46 2001 From: josephj at adelphia.net (Joe Pollock) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Phone number? Message-ID: <002401c0e136$f36c0480$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0E115.6A85F2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone have a phone number for Ronald K. Wechter? He offered me a ride = to the meeting today, but I haven't been able to get in touch ith him by = email. Thanks. Joe josephj@adelphia.net 688-2275 ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0E115.6A85F2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Anyone have a phone number for Ronald K. Wechter? He offered = me a=20 ride to the meeting today, but I haven't been able to get in touch ith = him by=20 email.

Thanks. Joe josephj@adelphia.net

688-2275

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0E115.6A85F2A0-- From trek at becon.org Sun May 20 14:46:16 2001 From: trek at becon.org (kyle) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: lilo.conf? In-Reply-To: <006f01c0df9b$ce8c4cc0$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> References: <006f01c0df9b$ce8c4cc0$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20010520.18461600@katz2.katze.local> The default boot is the one listed first in lilo.conf. Just move the windows paragraph: "other = /dev/hdb1....." to just above where you see the first "image = /boot/vmlinuz....." Save the file, run /sbin/lilo, and reboot. That's it. Dean Janik / trek@becon.org Original Message dated 5/18/01, 9:09:43 AM Author: "Joe Pollock" Re: lilo.conf?: Hi. I'm running Red Hat 7.0 on a dual boot system with Windoz 98 se. Can someone post a lilo.conf file that will default boot to Windoz? I've tried several things and they all seem to be ignored. Thanks. Joe From trek at becon.org Sun May 20 15:24:15 2001 From: trek at becon.org (kyle) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Phone number? References: <002401c0e136$f36c0480$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20010520.19241500@katz2.katze.local> This is an example of the lilo.conf file before making changes. image = /boot/vmlinuz root = /dev/hda6 label = linux other = /dev/hdb1 label = w98 map-drive = 0x80 to = 0x81 map-drive = 0x81 to = 0x80 table = /dev/hdb Just move the "other = " section above the "image = " section (so it is read first). The default boot is the one listed first. Now save the file, run /sbin/lilo, then reboot for it to take effect. That's it. Dean Janik trek@becon.org From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 21 11:09:03 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Sunday's meeting Message-ID: <20010521150903.88023.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> We held a fairly informal meeting on Sunday. There were about 8 people there at one point. The discussion wandered around the topic of where information can be found. Since only one other machine was brought in, we really didn't set up a network. One question that I was asked was: "What books are good to read to learn Linux/Unix?". I responded with "The design of the Unix Operating System" but I misidentified the author. It's actually Maurice J. Bach. Today, I did a bit of poking around and found a nice writeup on the "Path to Enlightenment". It's written whimsically but there's some very valid information there. Check out: http://www.rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=2377 It's a really good article. We also talked a bit about what we can do at the next meeting. Someone mentioned "LAN party" and we got lots of nodding heads and smiles. Looks like that might be a good idea. How do folks feel about bringing their machines in, hooking up to a hub and starting a "fragfest"? I think it would be a blast (literally?). Cheers! Bob Meyer ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Mon May 21 11:17:52 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Sunday's meeting In-Reply-To: <20010521150903.88023.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have a 5 port Linksys Switch just waiting to be hooked up. A question though for you though. When talking about the slowness of GL apps, you mentioned something that I could do to increase my frame rates. I tried checking out linuxgames.com, but couldn't find anything related to that, but I did find a HOWTO on running Starcraft on Linux using Wine ;) Could you relay that information, of provide some links?? > We also talked a bit about what we can do at the next meeting. Someone > mentioned "LAN party" and we got lots of nodding heads and smiles. Looks like > that might be a good idea. How do folks feel about bringing their machines in, > hooking up to a hub and starting a "fragfest"? I think it would be a blast > (literally?). Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 21 11:55:40 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Sunday's meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010521155540.80825.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> On LinuxGames.com, look for the article on Nvidia drivers. There are a mess of comments (80 at last count) and some of them contain information about the libGL.so issues. The actual discussion is at http://www.linuxgames.com/news/index.php3/4445 later... Bob --- Robert Dege wrote: > > I have a 5 port Linksys Switch just waiting to be hooked up. > > A question though for you though. When talking about the slowness of GL > apps, you mentioned something that I could do to increase my frame rates. > > I tried checking out linuxgames.com, but couldn't find anything related to > that, but I did find a HOWTO on running Starcraft on Linux using Wine ;) > > Could you relay that information, of provide some links?? > > > We also talked a bit about what we can do at the next meeting. Someone > > mentioned "LAN party" and we got lots of nodding heads and smiles. Looks > like > > that might be a good idea. How do folks feel about bringing their machines > in, > > hooking up to a hub and starting a "fragfest"? I think it would be a blast > > (literally?). > > > > Dege > > Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but > they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 21 12:20:42 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Message-ID: <000801c0e211$fbe5b2b0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0E1F0.74D71FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for buisness accounts (home accounts use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today (Kathy) and they stated: "We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and $99/mnth. The upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed to run a server off of the line." I then began to ask what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is $42/mnth in my area) and she stated: "If you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a higher priority than the home customers." Conclusions: Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because they want the money for themselves. Also if you want better customer service then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0E1F0.74D71FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

During = yesterday's=20 meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about Adelphia providing = higher=20 speed uploads for buisness accounts (home accounts use a 128Kbps = upload). =20 I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today (Kathy) and they=20 stated:

"We=20 have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and = $99/mnth. The=20 upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home = and=20 buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed = to run a=20 server off of the line."

I then = began to ask=20 what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is $42/mnth in my = area) and=20 she stated:

"If=20 you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a = higher=20 priority than the home customers."

Conclusions:<= /DIV>

Adelphia does=20 not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because they want the = money=20 for themselves. Also if you want better customer service then you = have to=20 pay $57/mnth more to get it

Ronald K. Wechter
Network Systems=20 Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0E1F0.74D71FF0-- From carlyos at Buffalo.com Mon May 21 13:12:03 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Message-ID: <200105211312.AA28705244@mail.buffalo.com> Problem solved with the server, do what I do. Use a dynamic hosting company :) I use TZO.com. Works pretty good :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ronald K. Wechter" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:20:42 -0400 >During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about >Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for buisness accounts (home accounts >use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today >(Kathy) and they stated: > >"We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and $99/mnth. >The upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home >and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed >to run a server off of the line." > >I then began to ask what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is >$42/mnth in my area) and she stated: > >"If you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a >higher priority than the home customers." > >Conclusions: > >Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because they >want the money for themselves. Also if you want better customer service >then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it >Ronald K. Wechter >Network Systems Administrator >NRD Buffalo Webmaster >Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo >(716) 551-4901 > > > > > From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 21 13:26:03 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable In-Reply-To: <200105211312.AA28705244@mail.buffalo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c0e21b$1d5bbe40$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> It is not the static IP address that is the problem. The problem at hand is to "Legitimately" run a web server off of the ONLY broadband available in my area -- Adelphia Cable. No other DSL providers exist in my area... Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Carl Yost Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:12 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Problem solved with the server, do what I do. Use a dynamic hosting company :) I use TZO.com. Works pretty good :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ronald K. Wechter" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:20:42 -0400 >During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about >Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for buisness accounts (home accounts >use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today >(Kathy) and they stated: > >"We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and $99/mnth. >The upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home >and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed >to run a server off of the line." > >I then began to ask what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is >$42/mnth in my area) and she stated: > >"If you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a >higher priority than the home customers." > >Conclusions: > >Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because they >want the money for themselves. Also if you want better customer service >then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it >Ronald K. Wechter >Network Systems Administrator >NRD Buffalo Webmaster >Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo >(716) 551-4901 > > > > > From Wes.Anastasi at itec.mail.suny.edu Mon May 21 13:59:24 2001 From: Wes.Anastasi at itec.mail.suny.edu (Anastasi, Wes) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:28 2005 Subject: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Message-ID: <0B41ACBECF83734D98ABC83DD8E097E101E9E1@cipher.itec.suny.edu> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E21F.C50F1F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ron, Sorr to hear that. Carl, Have you found a better dynDNS client than jlclient offered at http://www.justlinux.com. Wes -----Original Message----- From: Ronald K. Wechter [mailto:sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:26 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable It is not the static IP address that is the problem. The problem at hand is to "Legitimately" run a web server off of the ONLY broadband available in my area -- Adelphia Cable. No other DSL providers exist in my area... Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Carl Yost Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:12 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Problem solved with the server, do what I do. Use a dynamic hosting company :) I use TZO.com. Works pretty good :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ronald K. Wechter" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:20:42 -0400 >During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about >Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for buisness accounts (home accounts >use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today >(Kathy) and they stated: > >"We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and $99/mnth. >The upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home >and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed >to run a server off of the line." > >I then began to ask what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is >$42/mnth in my area) and she stated: > >"If you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a >higher priority than the home customers." > >Conclusions: > >Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because they >want the money for themselves. Also if you want better customer service >then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it >Ronald K. Wechter >Network Systems Administrator >NRD Buffalo Webmaster >Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo >(716) 551-4901 > > > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E21F.C50F1F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable

Ron,
Sorr to hear that.
Carl,
Have you found a better dynDNS client than jlclient = offered at http://www.justlinux.com.

Wes

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald K. Wechter [mailto:sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.m= il]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:26 PM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: RE: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia = Cable

It is not the static IP address that is the = problem. The problem at hand is
to "Legitimately" run a web server off of = the ONLY broadband available in my
area -- Adelphia Cable.

No other DSL providers exist in my area...

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]O= n Behalf Of
Carl Yost
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:12 PM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Re: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia = Cable

Problem solved with the server, do what I do. Use a = dynamic hosting company
:) I use TZO.com. Works pretty good :)

---------- Original Message = ----------------------------------
From: "Ronald K. Wechter" = <sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:20:42 -0400

>During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia = technicians spoke about
>Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for = buisness accounts (home
accounts
>use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with = Adelphia's buisness department today
>(Kathy) and they stated:
>
>"We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 = for installation and $99/mnth.
>The upload and download is not faster than the = home accounts (ie Both home
>and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but = you are still not allowed
>to run a server off of the line."
>
>I then began to ask what does one get for the = extra $57/mnth (powerlink is
>$42/mnth in my area) and she stated:
>
>"If you have problems with the line or = connection, you are placed in a
>higher priority than the home = customers."
>
>Conclusions:
>
>Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages = or run a server because
they
>want the money for themselves. Also if you = want better customer service
>then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it
>Ronald K. Wechter
>Network Systems Administrator
>NRD Buffalo Webmaster
>Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
>(716) 551-4901
>
>
>
>
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E21F.C50F1F20-- From mtp22 at cornell.edu Mon May 21 14:33:53 2001 From: mtp22 at cornell.edu (Matt Piotrowski) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Broadband "Solutions" -- Adelphia Cable In-Reply-To: <0B41ACBECF83734D98ABC83DD8E097E101E9E1@cipher.itec.suny.ed u> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010521142231.00b01530@postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu> I'm not sure about other areas, but Adelphia "Powerlink" in my area (Blasdell, Orchard Park) is pathetic; it is by far the most unreliable Internet service I have had. When it works, it is typically very fast, but too often it doesn't work. I wouldn't recommend running a server off of it where the customers expect it to be up 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Matt From carlyos at Buffalo.com Mon May 21 14:39:39 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Message-ID: <200105211439.AA31130280@mail.buffalo.com> Wes, I use www.tzo.com, it is $60 for a full year. Easy to use, you can use it in any OS, you can have their client run automatic for you. Also you can set the ip address right through the internet right at there site. So if I check my router at home and see the lease ended on the IP and adelphia DHCP gave me a different one I can change it right at here from work. Carl ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Anastasi, Wes" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:59:24 -0400 >Ron, >Sorr to hear that. >Carl, >Have you found a better dynDNS client than jlclient offered at >http://www.justlinux.com. > >Wes > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ronald K. Wechter [mailto:sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil] >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:26 PM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: RE: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable > > >It is not the static IP address that is the problem. The problem at hand is >to "Legitimately" run a web server off of the ONLY broadband available in my >area -- Adelphia Cable. > >No other DSL providers exist in my area... > >Ron > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of >Carl Yost >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:12 PM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: Re: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable > > > >Problem solved with the server, do what I do. Use a dynamic hosting company >:) I use TZO.com. Works pretty good :) > > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Ronald K. Wechter" >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:20:42 -0400 > >>During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about >>Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for buisness accounts (home >accounts >>use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today >>(Kathy) and they stated: >> >>"We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and $99/mnth. >>The upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home >>and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed >>to run a server off of the line." >> >>I then began to ask what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is >>$42/mnth in my area) and she stated: >> >>"If you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a >>higher priority than the home customers." >> >>Conclusions: >> >>Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because >they >>want the money for themselves. Also if you want better customer service >>then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it >>Ronald K. Wechter >>Network Systems Administrator >>NRD Buffalo Webmaster >>Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo >>(716) 551-4901 >> >> >> >> >> > > From carlyos at Buffalo.com Mon May 21 14:44:38 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Broadband "Solutions" -- Adelphia Cable Message-ID: <200105211444.AA103154202@mail.buffalo.com> this is very true, my cable is suk. it ran insanely fast the first 2 months (I am almost live right downtown) the it died all together for 2 months. It still only works well for 2 days a week. I know they had to upgrade their network because some people started a law suit against them because of how they advertise it and sell it, yet it sucks and never works. There tech support is terrible also (granted I am sure it is not the techs fault) all they do is have me run trace routes and e-mail it to them. Grrrrrrr I can get any DSL at my house too, but I had 2 DSL lines, 1 from Prime, another through Verizon, cancelled them. So I am stuck until I make enough and put a T1 line in :)~~~~~ ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Matt Piotrowski Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:33:53 -0400 >I'm not sure about other areas, but Adelphia "Powerlink" in my area >(Blasdell, Orchard Park) is pathetic; it is by far the most unreliable >Internet service I have had. When it works, it is typically very fast, but >too often it doesn't work. I wouldn't recommend running a server off of it >where the customers expect it to be up 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. > >Matt > > From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 21 15:59:31 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 Growing Pains Message-ID: <001f01c0e230$8db65be0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0E20F.06A4BBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Everyone boasted about Mandrake 8.0 at the meeting I decided to snatch a copy and try to install it on my laptop. Ive created the boot disk fine and began the installation but once the installer begins it locks the system. Here are the laptop specs: Pentium 233Mhz 128MB RAM Toshiba CD-Rom Drive (20x) Touchpad (unkown brand) This computer was made by Metrobook whihc is now out of buisness. I did try to use the text installer and that even locks up. I read in the Mandrake Readme that this CD is optimized for Pentium ??? systems and will no work on older machines. Could this be the cause? Please help! Thank You, Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0E20F.06A4BBE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Everyone boasted=20 about Mandrake 8.0 at the meeting I decided to snatch a copy and try to = install=20 it on my laptop. Ive created the boot disk fine and began the = installation=20 but once the installer begins it locks the system. Here are the = laptop=20 specs:

Pentium=20 233Mhz

128MB = RAM=20

Toshiba CD-Rom Drive=20 (20x)

Touchpad (unkown=20 brand)

This = computer was=20 made by Metrobook whihc is now out of buisness. I did try to use = the text=20 installer and that even locks up. I read in the Mandrake Readme = that this=20 CD is optimized for Pentium ??? systems and will no work on older=20 machines. Could this be the cause? Please = help!

Thank=20 You,

Ronald K. Wechter
Network Systems=20 Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0E20F.06A4BBE0-- From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Mon May 21 16:02:43 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 Growing Pains In-Reply-To: <001f01c0e230$8db65be0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: At what point does it lock up? During the install (if you make it far enough for user interaction), you can hit the Alt-F3 & see what the system is doing. This help solve the problem. -Rob > Everyone boasted about Mandrake 8.0 at the meeting I decided to snatch a > copy and try to install it on my laptop. Ive created the boot disk fine and > began the installation but once the installer begins it locks the system. > Here are the laptop specs: > > Pentium 233Mhz > 128MB RAM > Toshiba CD-Rom Drive (20x) > Touchpad (unkown brand) > > This computer was made by Metrobook whihc is now out of buisness. I did try > to use the text installer and that even locks up. I read in the Mandrake > Readme that this CD is optimized for Pentium ??? systems and will no work on > older machines. Could this be the cause? Please help! > > Thank You, > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 21 16:20:50 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 Growing Pains In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002601c0e233$87c1d310$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Ok -- the only error I recieved was that it could not locate a /usr/local/bin directory. Once this error flashes on the Alt-F3 screen the user interface starts and the system locks on the "Choose Language" dialog. The only other thing I can think of is that the HD is formatted for NTFS (Win2k). This was not a problem with RedHat though. Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Dege Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:03 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Mandrake 8.0 Growing Pains At what point does it lock up? During the install (if you make it far enough for user interaction), you can hit the Alt-F3 & see what the system is doing. This help solve the problem. -Rob > Everyone boasted about Mandrake 8.0 at the meeting I decided to snatch a > copy and try to install it on my laptop. Ive created the boot disk fine and > began the installation but once the installer begins it locks the system. > Here are the laptop specs: > > Pentium 233Mhz > 128MB RAM > Toshiba CD-Rom Drive (20x) > Touchpad (unkown brand) > > This computer was made by Metrobook whihc is now out of buisness. I did try > to use the text installer and that even locks up. I read in the Mandrake > Readme that this CD is optimized for Pentium ??? systems and will no work on > older machines. Could this be the cause? Please help! > > Thank You, > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From chrism at fsenablers.com Mon May 21 20:42:23 2001 From: chrism at fsenablers.com (Chris Martin) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Linux Course In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just thought I would let everyone know, as of today (March 21st) the Linux course at UB has been cancelled. Don't have a reason yet, but I can say that I am disappointed. Chris Martin -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Chris Martin Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:32 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: Linux Course I haven't taken it yet, but I will be taking it next semester (fall). I don't know what book they are using yet (usually a pretty good indicator of how the course will go. I really hope its not one of those teach yourself foo in X days/hours/minutes books.) I'm taking primarily for the easy A (and I really hope the prof doesn't happen to be on this list). In any event, I can let you know how the class goes once I start taking it. Chris Martin Lead Developer, FSenablers, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Wayne Melbrod Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:26 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Linux Course As a positive note: I ran across a Linux course being offered this fall at U.B. Has anybody ever taken it? It's good to see Linux getting formal recognition. Usually (non computer science) corses/training at UB tend to be windows centric. Is S. Crowley a local expert/advocate? Your thoughts? - Wayne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (snip: From the online catalog) MFC 213 - LINUX Section MFC Lecture, 3.00 credits Registration #: 118056 Time: W, 19:00 - 21:40 Dates: 08/27/2001 - 12/07/2001 Location: 115 BALDY [view map] Instructor: CROWLEY, S From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue May 22 10:30:59 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 Growing Pains In-Reply-To: <001f01c0e230$8db65be0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20010522143059.94014.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> That's pretty bizarre. Check on the mandrake site in the FAQ and tech sections to see if there's anything there about the lockups. I DO know that Mandrake is only installable on Pentium machines. You cannot install on a '486. Everything in the system is compiled with pentium flags in the compiler, even the kernel. The only other system I've seen with any kind of problem is a weird motherboard with built in Adaptec 9XXX or some such SCSI chip set. I don't know if it was the drive or the controller 'cuz 7.2 didn't work well on it, either. Lots of drive errors. I suspect that the machine needs to have the SCSI bios updated. It would help if you knew who made the motherboard in the laptop. There might be info on the site about that board and whether there is a bug somewhere. Keep us informed and we'll try to help. Cheers! Bob --- "Ronald K. Wechter" wrote: > Everyone boasted about Mandrake 8.0 at the meeting I decided to snatch a > copy and try to install it on my laptop. Ive created the boot disk fine and > began the installation but once the installer begins it locks the system. > Here are the laptop specs: > > Pentium 233Mhz > 128MB RAM > Toshiba CD-Rom Drive (20x) > Touchpad (unkown brand) > > This computer was made by Metrobook whihc is now out of buisness. I did try > to use the text installer and that even locks up. I read in the Mandrake > Readme that this CD is optimized for Pentium ??? systems and will no work on > older machines. Could this be the cause? Please help! > > Thank You, > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From hubbardr at adelphia.net Wed May 23 21:40:39 2001 From: hubbardr at adelphia.net (Richard Hubbard) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: IBM and linux In-Reply-To: <20010522143059.94014.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I guess IBM wasn't kidding when they said they were spending billions on linux. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20010522/tc/ibm_to_let_linux_fans_use_mainfr ame--for_free_1.html http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/ Richard Hubbard Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo MCT, MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD,CLP, CLI, A+, Net+ I-Net+, LCP, LCI office : 716-681-8500 office fight inflation, repeal boyle's law... From bradbartram at wycol.net Thu May 24 21:18:19 2001 From: bradbartram at wycol.net (Bradley J. Bartram) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition Message-ID: <004001c0e4b8$95ce1400$0114a8c0@localhost.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C0E497.0E03D260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, Does anybody on the list know what the maximum number of files that can = be on a single ext2 partition is? I have a web server that gets a strange error. I have a smallish (8GB) = hd divided into 3 partitions (/, /boot, /usr). The apache root is on = "/" under "/home/httpd/html". Under html, I have several directories = and one directory containing about 1600 subdirectories. Each Sub = directory has 2 sub directories and about 90 files per directory. All = in all there are about 288000 files in this directory. About 3200 new = files are created everyday. At some point, and I'm not quite sure when, this server reports "no room = left on disk". Running "df" shows plenty of free space on all = partitions so I'm lead to believe that I'm pushing the limits of the = filesystem. What do you think? Unfortunately, this server was pressed into duty and is obviously not = configured for optimal efficiency. Not to mention, the method of file = delivery that generates these static files could and is being improved. = I would just like to know so I can plan on filling up the filesystem or = whatever and also so I know the next time. Thanks. Brad ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C0E497.0E03D260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello everyone,

Does anybody on the list know what the = maximum=20 number of files that can be on a single ext2 partition is?

I have a web server that gets a strange = error. I have a smallish (8GB) hd divided into 3 partitions (/, = /boot,=20 /usr). The apache root is on "/" under "/home/httpd/html". = Under=20 html, I have several directories and one directory containing about 1600 = subdirectories. Each Sub directory has 2 sub directories and about = 90=20 files per directory. All in all there are about 288000 files in = this=20 directory. About 3200 new files are created everyday.

At some point, and I'm not quite sure = when, this=20 server reports "no room left on disk". Running "df" shows plenty = of free=20 space on all partitions so I'm lead to believe that I'm pushing the = limits of=20 the filesystem. What do you think?

Unfortunately, this server was pressed = into duty=20 and is obviously not configured for optimal efficiency. Not to = mention,=20 the method of file delivery that generates these static files = could and is=20 being improved. I would just like to know so I can plan on filling = up the=20 filesystem or whatever and also so I know the next time.

Thanks.

Brad

------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C0E497.0E03D260-- From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 25 10:15:11 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition In-Reply-To: <004001c0e4b8$95ce1400$0114a8c0@localhost.com> Message-ID: <20010525141511.23954.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> well, if you run 'df -i' it will give you the current stats on inodes (one inode to a file). If you get a 0 free message, then you're out of them :-) When you build a file system, you can tune the parameters, depending on what you're trying to do with the file system. There are default numbers based on size of the partition that it will use. Check the man page for 'mke2fs'. My recommendation would be to back up the data, unmount the file system, run 'mke2fs' with either the '-i' bytes per inode flag or a '-N' to set the actual, rather than a ratio. The man page says that it's not good practice to make the ratio less than one inode per disk block because you will be wasting inode table space. If you're making zero length files, obviously, this rule may not apply. Hope this helps... Cheers! Bob --- "Bradley J. Bartram" wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Does anybody on the list know what the maximum number of files that can be on > a single ext2 partition is? > > I have a web server that gets a strange error. I have a smallish (8GB) hd > divided into 3 partitions (/, /boot, /usr). The apache root is on "/" under > "/home/httpd/html". Under html, I have several directories and one directory > containing about 1600 subdirectories. Each Sub directory has 2 sub > directories and about 90 files per directory. All in all there are about > 288000 files in this directory. About 3200 new files are created everyday. > > At some point, and I'm not quite sure when, this server reports "no room left > on disk". Running "df" shows plenty of free space on all partitions so I'm > lead to believe that I'm pushing the limits of the filesystem. What do you > think? > > Unfortunately, this server was pressed into duty and is obviously not > configured for optimal efficiency. Not to mention, the method of file > delivery that generates these static files could and is being improved. I > would just like to know so I can plan on filling up the filesystem or > whatever and also so I know the next time. > > Thanks. > > Brad > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From trek at becon.org Sat May 26 23:56:53 2001 From: trek at becon.org (kyle) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition In-Reply-To: <004001c0e4b8$95ce1400$0114a8c0@localhost.com> References: <004001c0e4b8$95ce1400$0114a8c0@localhost.com> Message-ID: <20010527.3565300@katz2.katze.local> --------------=_4D4801678E1808BAFBC8 Content-Description: filename="text1.txt" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just guessing, but could you have used up all available inodes? trek@becon.org Original Message dated 5/24/01, 9:18:19 PM Author: "Bradley J. Bartram" Re: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition: Hello everyone, =20 Does anybody on the list know what the maximum number of files that can = be on a single ext2 partition is? =20 I have a web server that gets a strange error. I have a smallish (8GB) = hd divided into 3 partitions (/, /boot, /usr). The apache root is on "/= "=20 under "/home/httpd/html". Under html, I have several directories and on= e=20 directory containing about 1600 subdirectories. Each Sub directory has = 2=20 sub directories and about 90 files per directory. All in all there are = about 288000 files in this directory. About 3200 new files are created = everyday. =20 At some point, and I'm not quite sure when, this server reports "no room= =20 left on disk". Running "df" shows plenty of free space on all partition= s=20 so I'm lead to believe that I'm pushing the limits of the filesystem. =20 What do you think? =20 Unfortunately, this server was pressed into duty and is obviously not=20 configured for optimal efficiency. Not to mention, the method of file=20 delivery that generates these static files could and is being improved. = =20 I would just like to know so I can plan on filling up the filesystem or = whatever and also so I know the next time. =20 Thanks. =20 Brad --------------=_4D4801678E1808BAFBC8 Content-Description: filename="text1.html" Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition

Just guessing, but could you have used up all available inodes?

trek@becon.org

Original Message dated 5/24/01, 9:18:19 PM

Author: "Bradley J. Bartram" <bradbartram@wycol.net>

Re: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition:

Hell= o everyone,

Does= anybody on the list know what the maximum number of files that can be on a single ext2 partition is?

I ha= ve a web server that gets a strange error. I have a smallish (8GB) hd divided into 3 partitions (/, /boot, /usr). The apache root is on "/" under "/home/httpd/html". Under html, I have several directories and one directory containing about 1600 subdirectories. Each Sub directory has 2 sub directories and about 90 files per directory. All in all there are about 288000 files in this directory. About 3200 new files are created everyday.

At s= ome point, and I'm not quite sure when, this server reports "no room left on disk". Running "df" shows plenty of free space on all partitions so I'm lead to believe that I'm pushing the limits of the filesystem. What do you think?

Unfo= rtunately, this server was pressed into duty and is obviously not configured for optimal efficiency. Not to mention, the method of file delivery that generates these static files could and is being improved. = ; I would just like to know so I can plan on filling up the filesystem or whatever and also so I know the next time.

Than= ks.

Brad=

--------------=_4D4801678E1808BAFBC8-- From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Tue May 29 11:39:05 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Standard Server Rack Utility Shelf Message-ID: <000d01c0e855$7eeb06d0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E833.F7D966D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am in DIRE need of a standard utility shelf for a Compaq Rack. Does anyone know where I can get one in buffalo? Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E833.F7D966D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E833.F7D966D0-- From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Tue May 29 12:06:42 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Standard Server Rack Utility Shelf References: <000d01c0e855$7eeb06d0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <3B13C912.2A31B67C@phor.com> you might want to try graybar electric at 180 perry st downtown. they have all kinds of racks and stuff. > "Ronald K. Wechter" wrote: > > I am in DIRE need of a standard utility shelf for a Compaq Rack. Does > anyone know where I can get one in buffalo? > > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Tue May 29 12:39:14 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: new lug server box Message-ID: <3B13D0B2.C8226A86@phor.com> hello, a few months ago i put out a request asking for old parts to put together a "new" lug server. i've collected about 90% of the parts that we'll need to put this machine together. what i'm still trying to get is a case, if anyone has a atx style case that they can donate please get back to me. so far this is what i've gathered up. what we have: ------------- mainboard w/ P233 32mb ram 8gb maxtor hard drive 3com nic video card (really old but it works) needed items: ------------- atx case wish list items: ---------------- scsi controller (i might have this buried @ home) external disk tower more disk more disk more disk i'd like to get as much disk as possible. i don't plan to put a cdrom in the system, this way we can stuff up to 4 IDE drives in the box. the reason for all the disk you may be asking is for ftp storage. i'd like to get an ftp server setup, have an uploads area for lug members or who ever, mirror some of the cool projects out there and so forth. i do have more ram for the box but i haven't tested it yet, the additional ram should put it up to 64mb if i'm not mistaken. -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Tue May 29 12:53:31 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: new lug server box In-Reply-To: <3B13D0B2.C8226A86@phor.com> Message-ID: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> I happen to have one in my closet taking up space. Give me a buz and lets make arrangesments (Enlight ATX Case - NO power supply but I can pick one up if needed) -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Darin Perusich Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:39 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: new lug server box hello, a few months ago i put out a request asking for old parts to put together a "new" lug server. i've collected about 90% of the parts that we'll need to put this machine together. what i'm still trying to get is a case, if anyone has a atx style case that they can donate please get back to me. so far this is what i've gathered up. what we have: ------------- mainboard w/ P233 32mb ram 8gb maxtor hard drive 3com nic video card (really old but it works) needed items: ------------- atx case wish list items: ---------------- scsi controller (i might have this buried @ home) external disk tower more disk more disk more disk i'd like to get as much disk as possible. i don't plan to put a cdrom in the system, this way we can stuff up to 4 IDE drives in the box. the reason for all the disk you may be asking is for ftp storage. i'd like to get an ftp server setup, have an uploads area for lug members or who ever, mirror some of the cool projects out there and so forth. i do have more ram for the box but i haven't tested it yet, the additional ram should put it up to 64mb if i'm not mistaken. -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From kumiorava at crosswinds.net Tue May 29 18:10:16 2001 From: kumiorava at crosswinds.net (Lasse Saarinen) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: new lug server box In-Reply-To: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> References: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <01052918104500.16690@korvetti.local> If you need a power supply, I've still got one in my old case. Other than that, I've completely razed the box of all useful parts (including indicator leds, buttons, and the speaker) so it's no longer useable. I've also got a 64mb pc100 dimm that I don't need, so if the motherboard can make use of it you're welcome to have that too. - Lasse Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > I happen to have one in my closet taking up space. Give me a buz and lets > make arrangesments (Enlight ATX Case - NO power supply but I can pick one up > if needed) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > Darin Perusich > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:39 PM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: new lug server box > > > hello, > > a few months ago i put out a request asking for old parts to put > together a "new" lug server. i've collected about 90% of the parts that > we'll need to put this machine together. what i'm still trying to get is > a case, if anyone has a atx style case that they can donate please get > back to me. so far this is what i've gathered up. > > what we have: > ------------- > mainboard w/ P233 > 32mb ram > 8gb maxtor hard drive > 3com nic > video card (really old but it works) > > needed items: > ------------- > atx case > > wish list items: > ---------------- > > scsi controller (i might have this buried @ home) > external disk tower > more disk > more disk > more disk > > > i'd like to get as much disk as possible. i don't plan to put a cdrom in > the system, this way we can stuff up to 4 IDE drives in the box. the > reason for all the disk you may be asking is for ftp storage. i'd like > to get an ftp server setup, have an uploads area for lug members or who > ever, mirror some of the cool projects out there and so forth. i do > have more ram for the box but i haven't tested it yet, the additional > ram should put it up to 64mb if i'm not mistaken. > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com From kumiorava at crosswinds.net Tue May 29 18:36:11 2001 From: kumiorava at crosswinds.net (Lasse Saarinen) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: new lug server box In-Reply-To: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> References: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <01052918472500.17357@korvetti.local> Oh and I also have an unused P2 400 processor with no fan. Would the motherboard you have be able to take it? It just needs cooling from somewhere. - Lasse Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > I happen to have one in my closet taking up space. Give me a buz and lets > make arrangesments (Enlight ATX Case - NO power supply but I can pick one up > if needed) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > Darin Perusich > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:39 PM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: new lug server box > > > hello, > > a few months ago i put out a request asking for old parts to put > together a "new" lug server. i've collected about 90% of the parts that > we'll need to put this machine together. what i'm still trying to get is > a case, if anyone has a atx style case that they can donate please get > back to me. so far this is what i've gathered up. > > what we have: > ------------- > mainboard w/ P233 > 32mb ram > 8gb maxtor hard drive > 3com nic > video card (really old but it works) > > needed items: > ------------- > atx case > > wish list items: > ---------------- > > scsi controller (i might have this buried @ home) > external disk tower > more disk > more disk > more disk > > > i'd like to get as much disk as possible. i don't plan to put a cdrom in > the system, this way we can stuff up to 4 IDE drives in the box. the > reason for all the disk you may be asking is for ftp storage. i'd like > to get an ftp server setup, have an uploads area for lug members or who > ever, mirror some of the cool projects out there and so forth. i do > have more ram for the box but i haven't tested it yet, the additional > ram should put it up to 64mb if i'm not mistaken. > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Wed May 30 08:16:25 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: new lug server box References: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> <01052918472500.17357@korvetti.local> Message-ID: <3B14E499.5BA18BED@phor.com> i'll have to check the chipset of the board to see if it will handle a 400mhz chip, cooling for the chip shouldn't be a problem. the board is pre pc100 but it should just step the memory down to the speed of the slowest ram in the box. again i'll have to read the manual. darin Lasse Saarinen wrote: > > Oh and I also have an unused P2 400 processor with no fan. Would the > motherboard you have be able to take it? It just needs cooling from somewhere. > > - Lasse > > Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > > I happen to have one in my closet taking up space. Give me a buz and lets > > make arrangesments (Enlight ATX Case - NO power supply but I can pick one up > > if needed) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > > Darin Perusich > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:39 PM > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Subject: new lug server box > > > > > > hello, > > > > a few months ago i put out a request asking for old parts to put > > together a "new" lug server. i've collected about 90% of the parts that > > we'll need to put this machine together. what i'm still trying to get is > > a case, if anyone has a atx style case that they can donate please get > > back to me. so far this is what i've gathered up. > > > > what we have: > > ------------- > > mainboard w/ P233 > > 32mb ram > > 8gb maxtor hard drive > > 3com nic > > video card (really old but it works) > > > > needed items: > > ------------- > > atx case > > > > wish list items: > > ---------------- > > > > scsi controller (i might have this buried @ home) > > external disk tower > > more disk > > more disk > > more disk > > > > > > i'd like to get as much disk as possible. i don't plan to put a cdrom in > > the system, this way we can stuff up to 4 IDE drives in the box. the > > reason for all the disk you may be asking is for ftp storage. i'd like > > to get an ftp server setup, have an uploads area for lug members or who > > ever, mirror some of the cool projects out there and so forth. i do > > have more ram for the box but i haven't tested it yet, the additional > > ram should put it up to 64mb if i'm not mistaken. > > > > -- > > Darin Perusich > > Unix Administrator > > Cognigen Corp. > > darinper@cognigencorp.com -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From gregneumann at netscape.net Wed May 30 10:39:25 2001 From: gregneumann at netscape.net (Gregory J. Neumann) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:51:29 2005 Subject: Software RAID weirdness question Message-ID: <7FF4859A.3E5B1BB3.4C2EDDBB@netscape.net> First real post here. Hope you don't mind a question: :-) I am trying to implement software RAID 1 on my Slackware 7.1 box w/ dual 9.1 gig ultra-SCSI drives, 2.2.19 kernel, RAID 1 support compiled in and the latest available raidtools 0.90 pkg. AFAICT, there is no patch for RAID for the 2.2.19 kernel. At one point I managed to get a raid set up "accepted" as a RAID 0, but I wanted to change it to RAID 1. In keeping w/ the HOWTO, I originally set the raid partitions w/ the permanent super-block. Now the kernel registers the personality, but every time I try to "raidstart", I get "invalid argument: /dev/md0". "mkraid" aborts on "seems to be part of an active raid", even w/ the "really-force" option. However, "/proc/mdstat" lists all raids as inactive. "/syslog" doesn't have any references, same w/ "/messages". "dmesg" just shows a successful RAID 1 personality registration at startup. I can delete the partitions w/ fdisk, bring them back as regular 83 partitions, mke2fs them and write data. Then delete and set them up as RAID again, and the same things happen. I have even deleted the /dev/md* and reinstalled the raidtools. Same thing. Even changing the partition sizes doesn't work. The HOWTO and all online docs I can find are very out of date. None of the docs or articles I find even hint on what I should do. Whew! I guess that's about as persistent as a super-block can be! This really mystifies me! Any ideas at all? Best regards, Greg -- Gregory J. 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I have glibc-2.2-12 and glibc-devel-2.2-12 I have jre118 and jdk118_v1 Does anyone know how to properly configure StarOffice52 user files 'sofficerc' and 'javarc' with the correct paths, arguments, etc? Any help would be greatly appreciated. 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--------------2E30B2B859B8052F7D4D6E5B-- From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Wed May 2 10:55:35 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Message-ID: <000a01c0d317$f1e79b10$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0D2F6.6AD5FB10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0D2F6.6AD5FB10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0D2F6.6AD5FB10-- From carlyos at Buffalo.com Wed May 2 11:46:15 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Message-ID: <200105021146.AA393850@mail.buffalo.com> Do you have a time machine :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ronald K. Wechter" Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:55:35 -0400 >Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so >please contact me! >Ronald K. Wechter >Network Systems Administrator >NRD Buffalo Webmaster >Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo >(716) 551-4901 > > > > > From chris.brown at ctg.com Wed May 2 11:58:23 2001 From: chris.brown at ctg.com (Chris Brown) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Message-ID: What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other media? -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 From zaurus69 at adelphia.net Wed May 2 17:54:07 2001 From: zaurus69 at adelphia.net (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000a01c0d352$69a69e00$6401a8c0@digger> I need to get it to a CD, CDRW, or Hard Drive. Ronald K. Wechter niterav@hotmail.com http://www.sherman2k.com "The Blue pill or the Red pill -- Which one would you choose?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:58 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other media? -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 From chris.brown at ctg.com Sun May 6 08:22:19 2001 From: chris.brown at ctg.com (Chris Brown) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Message-ID: Cheryl, Can we get it to the 400's DASD, and from there FTP to where we can get one of these other media? Thanks, Chris >>> zaurus69@adelphia.net 05/02/01 05:54PM >>> I need to get it to a CD, CDRW, or Hard Drive. Ronald K. Wechter niterav@hotmail.com http://www.sherman2k.com "The Blue pill or the Red pill -- Which one would you choose?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:58 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other media? -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 7 10:10:19 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002c01c0d6ff$736e31e0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> 400s DASD -- This is most likely in terms of hardware that Ihave not heard of before. I have never worked with this type of media before. We do have an FTP server available that we can transfer to - I just need to read the data off of the tape to a computer on the internet and we'll be good to go. Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:22 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Cheryl, Can we get it to the 400's DASD, and from there FTP to where we can get one of these other media? Thanks, Chris >>> zaurus69@adelphia.net 05/02/01 05:54PM >>> I need to get it to a CD, CDRW, or Hard Drive. Ronald K. Wechter niterav@hotmail.com http://www.sherman2k.com "The Blue pill or the Red pill -- Which one would you choose?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:58 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other media? -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 7 20:08:45 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability In-Reply-To: <002c01c0d6ff$736e31e0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20010508000845.19262.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> When he talks about DASD, that's IBM speak for disk storage. It stands for Direct Access Storage Device (aka Disk Drives). I think he just wants to be able to get the data to an IBM AS/400 somehow. If you can suck the data off the tape and put it someplace that he can FTP, I think that you'd be good. By the way, I have "extensive" experience reading vintage tapes. If you have problems, I could help. Cheers! --- "Ronald K. Wechter" wrote: > 400s DASD -- This is most likely in terms of hardware that Ihave not heard > of before. I have never worked with this type of media before. We do have > an FTP server available that we can transfer to - I just need to read the > data off of the tape to a computer on the internet and we'll be good to go. > > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > Chris Brown > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:22 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: RE: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability > > > Cheryl, > > Can we get it to the 400's DASD, and from there FTP to where we can get one > of these other media? > > Thanks, > Chris > > >>> zaurus69@adelphia.net 05/02/01 05:54PM >>> > I need to get it to a CD, CDRW, or Hard Drive. > > Ronald K. Wechter > niterav@hotmail.com > http://www.sherman2k.com > "The Blue pill or the Red pill -- Which one would you choose?" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of > Chris Brown > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:58 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: Re: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability > > What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other > media? > > > -- > Christopher Brown, CISSP > Global Security Manager > Information Services > Computer Task Group (CTG) > Ph: 716-888-3505 > Fx: 716-888-3318 > chris.brown@ctg.com > > > > >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> > Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so > please contact me! > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From chris.brown at ctg.com Tue May 8 08:48:11 2001 From: chris.brown at ctg.com (Chris Brown) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Message-ID: Ronald, Sorry, I sent this to nflug instead of my internal AS400 person. Please ignore my prior post. Chris -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/07/01 10:10AM >>> 400s DASD -- This is most likely in terms of hardware that Ihave not heard of before. I have never worked with this type of media before. We do have an FTP server available that we can transfer to - I just need to read the data off of the tape to a computer on the internet and we'll be good to go. Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:22 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability Cheryl, Can we get it to the 400's DASD, and from there FTP to where we can get one of these other media? Thanks, Chris >>> zaurus69@adelphia.net 05/02/01 05:54PM >>> I need to get it to a CD, CDRW, or Hard Drive. Ronald K. Wechter niterav@hotmail.com http://www.sherman2k.com "The Blue pill or the Red pill -- Which one would you choose?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:58 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Digital Tape Real Reading Ability What do you need to get it to? Another density reel tape or some other media? -- Christopher Brown, CISSP Global Security Manager Information Services Computer Task Group (CTG) Ph: 716-888-3505 Fx: 716-888-3318 chris.brown@ctg.com >>> sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil 05/02/01 10:55AM >>> Does anyone have the ability to read a 1600BPI 9 track tape real? If so please contact me! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Wed May 9 10:33:34 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Since Mandrake followes the RedHat style of installing Linux, everything is mainly rpm installed. You can do the following command: >rpm -qa | grep telnet There should be 2 packages installed: telnet telnet-server If you don't have either of these, you can install them via you're Mandrake CD, or go to www.rpmfind.net telnet.d is setup through inetd (or xinetd, depending on your Mandrake release), and can be configured through /etc/inetd.conf (or /etc/xinetd.conf) Hope this helps -Rob > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > seem to find telnetd. > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with Mandrake.) > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Wed May 9 12:52:32 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) Message-ID: In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't seem to find telnetd. Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with Mandrake.) A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 From wmelbrod at mandtbank.com Wed May 9 13:30:01 2001 From: wmelbrod at mandtbank.com (Wayne Melbrod) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it Message-ID: Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web download is available? Thanks! From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Wed May 9 13:41:31 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) Message-ID: immensely, thank you! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 Robert Dege ffalo.EDU> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked owner-nflug@n with a stupid stick!) flug.org 05/09/01 10:33 AM Please respond to nflug Since Mandrake followes the RedHat style of installing Linux, everything is mainly rpm installed. You can do the following command: >rpm -qa | grep telnet There should be 2 packages installed: telnet telnet-server If you don't have either of these, you can install them via you're Mandrake CD, or go to www.rpmfind.net telnet.d is setup through inetd (or xinetd, depending on your Mandrake release), and can be configured through /etc/inetd.conf (or /etc/xinetd.conf) Hope this helps -Rob > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > seem to find telnetd. > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with Mandrake.) > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From kumiorava at crosswinds.net Wed May 9 14:48:59 2001 From: kumiorava at crosswinds.net (Lasse Saarinen) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01050915005600.17645@korvetti.local> It's probably too early to find it in a store around here. However, it should be available online. Also, a lot of people here have disk sets made from the downloadable ISO images, my self included. Someone can always burn you a copy for the next meeting. It's the same exact software as in the retail package,unless you want the enterprise version of Mandrake, of course. - Lasse Wayne Melbrod wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web download is available? > > Thanks! From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 10 09:26:30 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010510132630.24153.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Hmmm... It should be called in.telnetd and it should be in /usr/sbin. If it's there, you also have to make sure that the entry for telnet is uncommented from the /etc/inetd.conf file so that inet can fork the thing when you attempt to connect. The line will say something like: telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd Note that it's using 'tcpd'. This the TCPWrappers system that you can use to limit access to the telnet on the machine. Look at the man pages for hosts.deny and hosts.allow. You can do some pretty interesting stuff with that. If you don't want to limit the attempts to log in, then simply make sure that everything is commented out of /etc/hosts.deny. If you don't have in.telnetd on the machine, get your mandrake CD and install the 'telnet-server' package (at least that's what I think it's called). Let us know how you are doing with it. Cheers! --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > seem to find telnetd. > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with Mandrake.) > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 10 09:28:11 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010510132811.81080.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Order it directly from their web site. It's www.linux-mandrake.com. Probably the easiest way to do it. I'm sure sites like 'linuxmall' have it, too. Cheers! --- Wayne Melbrod wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in > WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web > download is available? > > Thanks! > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 10 09:31:04 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it In-Reply-To: <01050915005600.17645@korvetti.local> Message-ID: <20010510133104.67142.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com> Hey, that sounds familiar. I brought four copies to the last meeting. Kevin gave me a whole pile of CD-Rs to burn for the group so if anyone wants a set, I could burn a bunch for the next meeting. Let me know so I can determine the demand. Cheers! --- Lasse Saarinen wrote: > It's probably too early to find it in a store around here. However, it should > be available online. Also, a lot of people here have disk sets made from the > downloadable ISO images, my self included. Someone can always burn you a > copy for the next meeting. It's the same exact software as in the retail > package,unless you want the enterprise version of Mandrake, of course. > > - Lasse > > Wayne Melbrod wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in > WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web > download is available? > > > > Thanks! ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From peter at thecybersource.com Thu May 10 09:32:30 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Question about last meeting Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0D934.225E3520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello All, More specifically, Bob. At the last meeting when we were working on my RedHat Linux box (I had the tower next to the guy�s that we put Mandrake 8.0 on). When we were doing something, you put a command in, I think it was �-s� at the boot prompt with the cd install, that let us bypass the password prompt. Do you remember that I had commented about the fact that that could be a good issue to talk about security and you had said that anytime anyone is physically near a box, that the security can be breached. My question for all of this, is that I have someone that forgot their root password and they had data they cannot loose. I don�t know which flavor of Linux it is. Any help would be greatly appreciated from anyone out there. Thanks, peter@thecybersource.com ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0D934.225E3520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0D934.225E3520-- From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 10 09:54:32 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010510135432.21208.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> /etc/securetty. You'll have to make entries for as many pseudo-ttys as you figure you might use :-) They're probably going to be called '/dev/pts?' where the '?' is a digit. The system creates them as it needs them to support xterms, telnetd, etc. Personnally, I vote for the 'sudo' option. I've forgotten the root password on systems because I always uses 'sudo'. Cheers! --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > > All installed, thanks. > > My issue now is, do I try to set it up so root can telnet in (very bad, i > know, but this is an internal server, and nobody else in the building can > spell telnet, much less use it for messing up my machine), or just set up > sudo (very good, security wise, plus i need the practice) so that I can do > my configurations. > > Since i am on the topic, where is it configured that root cannot login via > telnet? > > Thanks! > > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > > > > Robert Meyer > > > oo.com> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: telnetd on mandrake > (or, i seem to have been whacked > owner-nflug@n with a stupid stick!) > > flug.org > > > > > > 05/10/01 > > 09:26 AM > > Please > > respond to > > nflug > > > > > > > > > Hmmm... It should be called in.telnetd and it should be in /usr/sbin. If > it's > there, you also have to make sure that the entry for telnet is uncommented > from > the /etc/inetd.conf file so that inet can fork the thing when you attempt > to > connect. The line will say something like: > > telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd > > Note that it's using 'tcpd'. This the TCPWrappers system that you can use > to > limit access to the telnet on the machine. Look at the man pages for > hosts.deny and hosts.allow. You can do some pretty interesting stuff with > that. If you don't want to limit the attempts to log in, then simply make > sure > that everything is commented out of /etc/hosts.deny. > > If you don't have in.telnetd on the machine, get your mandrake CD and > install > the 'telnet-server' package (at least that's what I think it's called). > > Let us know how you are doing with it. > > Cheers! > --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > > seem to find telnetd. > > > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with > Mandrake.) > > > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > > A+, Net+,I-net+ > > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > > (716) 206-2241 Direct > > fax (716) 206-2222 > > > > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From wmelbrod at mandtbank.com Thu May 10 10:33:51 2001 From: wmelbrod at mandtbank.com (Wayne Melbrod) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it Message-ID: Hi, Which ISO's did you burn? Mandrake80-inst.iso or Mandrake80-ext.iso ? Or both? Yes, I would be happy to get a copy(s). I will bring in some blank CD's for your efforts. Thanks, Wayne >>> meyer_rm@yahoo.com 05/10/01 09:31AM >>> Hey, that sounds familiar. I brought four copies to the last meeting. Kevin gave me a whole pile of CD-Rs to burn for the group so if anyone wants a set, I could burn a bunch for the next meeting. Let me know so I can determine the demand. Cheers! --- Lasse Saarinen wrote: > It's probably too early to find it in a store around here. However, it should > be available online. Also, a lot of people here have disk sets made from the > downloadable ISO images, my self included. Someone can always burn you a > copy for the next meeting. It's the same exact software as in the retail > package,unless you want the enterprise version of Mandrake, of course. > > - Lasse > > Wayne Melbrod wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in > WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web > download is available? > > > > Thanks! ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Thu May 10 12:41:34 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) Message-ID: All installed, thanks. My issue now is, do I try to set it up so root can telnet in (very bad, i know, but this is an internal server, and nobody else in the building can spell telnet, much less use it for messing up my machine), or just set up sudo (very good, security wise, plus i need the practice) so that I can do my configurations. Since i am on the topic, where is it configured that root cannot login via telnet? Thanks! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 Robert Meyer cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked owner-nflug@n with a stupid stick!) flug.org 05/10/01 09:26 AM Please respond to nflug Hmmm... It should be called in.telnetd and it should be in /usr/sbin. If it's there, you also have to make sure that the entry for telnet is uncommented from the /etc/inetd.conf file so that inet can fork the thing when you attempt to connect. The line will say something like: telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd Note that it's using 'tcpd'. This the TCPWrappers system that you can use to limit access to the telnet on the machine. Look at the man pages for hosts.deny and hosts.allow. You can do some pretty interesting stuff with that. If you don't want to limit the attempts to log in, then simply make sure that everything is commented out of /etc/hosts.deny. If you don't have in.telnetd on the machine, get your mandrake CD and install the 'telnet-server' package (at least that's what I think it's called). Let us know how you are doing with it. Cheers! --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > seem to find telnetd. > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with Mandrake.) > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Thu May 10 14:43:28 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked with a stupid stick!) Message-ID: I probably will go with the sudo. I need the practice (trying to get ready for tests/classes and real world experience is handy) and it still is more secure. After all, if I teach some of my students well, then they may try taking a whack at my server, even though it's internal! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 Robert Meyer cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: telnetd on mandrake (or, i seem to have been whacked owner-nflug@n with a stupid stick!) flug.org 05/10/01 09:54 AM Please respond to nflug /etc/securetty. You'll have to make entries for as many pseudo-ttys as you figure you might use :-) They're probably going to be called '/dev/pts?' where the '?' is a digit. The system creates them as it needs them to support xterms, telnetd, etc. Personnally, I vote for the 'sudo' option. I've forgotten the root password on systems because I always uses 'sudo'. Cheers! --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > > All installed, thanks. > > My issue now is, do I try to set it up so root can telnet in (very bad, i > know, but this is an internal server, and nobody else in the building can > spell telnet, much less use it for messing up my machine), or just set up > sudo (very good, security wise, plus i need the practice) so that I can do > my configurations. > > Since i am on the topic, where is it configured that root cannot login via > telnet? > > Thanks! > > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > > > > Robert Meyer > > > oo.com> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: telnetd on mandrake > (or, i seem to have been whacked > owner-nflug@n with a stupid stick!) > > flug.org > > > > > > 05/10/01 > > 09:26 AM > > Please > > respond to > > nflug > > > > > > > > > Hmmm... It should be called in.telnetd and it should be in /usr/sbin. If > it's > there, you also have to make sure that the entry for telnet is uncommented > from > the /etc/inetd.conf file so that inet can fork the thing when you attempt > to > connect. The line will say something like: > > telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd > > Note that it's using 'tcpd'. This the TCPWrappers system that you can use > to > limit access to the telnet on the machine. Look at the man pages for > hosts.deny and hosts.allow. You can do some pretty interesting stuff with > that. If you don't want to limit the attempts to log in, then simply make > sure > that everything is commented out of /etc/hosts.deny. > > If you don't have in.telnetd on the machine, get your mandrake CD and > install > the 'telnet-server' package (at least that's what I think it's called). > > Let us know how you are doing with it. > > Cheers! > --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > > In my nefarious plot to get our NT boxes switched to Linux, I have a test > > server running Samba (not 2.2 yet, that will come soon!). > > > > However, I wish to configure this machine for remote access, and I can't > > seem to find telnetd. > > > > Am I looking for the right daemon? Did I forget to install it? > > > > If I forgot to install it, how to I add packages to Mandrake? (i'm really > > spoiled. Although slackware is officially harder, I could always run > > 'setup' as root and install packages. I'm really clueless with > Mandrake.) > > > > A pointer to the HOWTO or man page would be remembered forever, thanks! > > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > > A+, Net+,I-net+ > > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > > (716) 206-2241 Direct > > fax (716) 206-2222 > > > > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Thu May 10 14:44:16 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it Message-ID: For the install, you will probably need both. (When I installed my mandrake, it took the last couple of packages from the second cd) Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Wayne Melbrod" To: Subject: Re: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it Sent by: owner-nflug@nf lug.org 05/10/01 10:33 AM Please respond to nflug Hi, Which ISO's did you burn? Mandrake80-inst.iso or Mandrake80-ext.iso ? Or both? Yes, I would be happy to get a copy(s). I will bring in some blank CD's for your efforts. Thanks, Wayne >>> meyer_rm@yahoo.com 05/10/01 09:31AM >>> Hey, that sounds familiar. I brought four copies to the last meeting. Kevin gave me a whole pile of CD-Rs to burn for the group so if anyone wants a set, I could burn a bunch for the next meeting. Let me know so I can determine the demand. Cheers! --- Lasse Saarinen wrote: > It's probably too early to find it in a store around here. However, it should > be available online. Also, a lot of people here have disk sets made from the > downloadable ISO images, my self included. Someone can always burn you a > copy for the next meeting. It's the same exact software as in the retail > package,unless you want the enterprise version of Mandrake, of course. > > - Lasse > > Wayne Melbrod wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store in > WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the Web > download is available? > > > > Thanks! ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Thu May 10 16:57:14 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Mandrake not a beta anymore... Message-ID: Are there real differences between Beta 3 of Mandrake and the current 8.0 release? Iinstalled my B3 copy and it seems to be OK, so I would rather not have to download and install again... Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 From peter at thecybersource.com Thu May 10 17:46:37 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: anyone? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D979.294609E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anyone know how to get into a redhat system if you�ve forgotten the root password and have no other users? ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D979.294609E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D979.294609E0-- From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Thu May 10 18:45:29 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Weird? Daemon showing up in 'top' Message-ID: This isn't earth shaking, but... I'm getting a process showing up when I do a 'top' command called kapm-idled I wouldn't really care about it but it claims to be 94.4% CPU time, which seems awfully high. Of course, I definitely could be getting the wrong inference while I am reading it, but it seems to be taking up a lot of the processor. What is this doing? (Methinks and Advanced Power Management daemon, but I'm looking for other, more knowledgeable guidance) Can I safely kill it? Remove it? If it is APM, then I would like it gone, because this is a server I'm configuring. I don't want to have to walk past it every 10 minutes and wiggle the mouse! Thanks! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 From hubbardr at adelphia.net Thu May 10 20:01:58 2001 From: hubbardr at adelphia.net (Richard Hubbard) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0D98C.11AD6900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If you have a Red Hat emergency boot floppy you can get in. (Here's where I reveal my unbridled ignorance) The only way I know how to make one is on the last part of the RH install. I'm sure there has to be a .img file somewhere, though. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Cyber Source Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 5:47 PM To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Subject: anyone? Does anyone know how to get into a redhat system if you�ve forgotten the root password and have no other users? ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0D98C.11AD6900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0D98C.11AD6900-- From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Thu May 10 20:59:50 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Thu May 10 21:02:13 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: Weird? Daemon showing up in 'top' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>From a Linux listserv: The message quoted below is from a MandrakeSoft co-worker and friend, in a thread discussing APM's kernel thread, and how the idle function uses CPU time. This thread was in response to yet another Bugzilla bug report about kapm-idled using CPU time. Several months ago, kapmd was renamed to kapm-idled in an attempt to signal users that it was a special process, and that its CPU time wasn't "real CPU time." This hasn't silenced the bug reports and confusion. Is there some way to hack the scheduler statistics so that idle processes are special cases, which do not accumulate CPU time nor contribute to the load average? I agree that it's not pretty to special case idle function process(es), but those idle functions in turn are causing an incorrect picture of the system state to be presented to userland. -Rob > This isn't earth shaking, but... > > I'm getting a process showing up when I do a 'top' command called > kapm-idled > > I wouldn't really care about it but it claims to be 94.4% CPU time, which > seems awfully high. Of course, I definitely could be getting the wrong > inference while I am reading it, but it seems to be taking up a lot of the > processor. > > What is this doing? (Methinks and Advanced Power Management daemon, but I'm > looking for other, more knowledgeable guidance) Can I safely kill it? > Remove it? > > If it is APM, then I would like it gone, because this is a server I'm > configuring. I don't want to have to walk past it every 10 minutes and > wiggle the mouse! > > Thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From peter at thecybersource.com Thu May 10 22:03:11 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh wise one, It Worked! Thank you very much! peter@thecybersource.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Dege Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:00 PM To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Subject: Re: anyone? At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 11 09:04:44 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:05 2007 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I printed it out for future ref -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:34 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: anyone? Way cool! This one is going in my archives, too! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Cyber Source" ource.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: anyone? owner-nflug@nflu g.org 05/10/01 10:03 PM Please respond to nflug Oh wise one, It Worked! Thank you very much! peter@thecybersource.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Dege Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:00 PM To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Subject: Re: anyone? At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 11 10:31:46 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Question about last meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010511143146.41906.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Well, depending on the version of Unix and the machine configuration (hardware passwords, etc), most of the time, you can stuff an install disk in the machine and get to a point that you can mount file systems. With Mandrake systems, you stuff the install CD in the drive and type 'rescue'. From there, you can get to a shell prompt (without a password) that will allow you to mount the root filesystem and make whatever changes that need to be made. Sun systems can be worked the same way unless someone has passworded the boot rom. If that's the case, you have to open the machine up and force a dump of the NVRAM to get it to forget. The '-s' boot flag will typically allow you to reboot the machine into 'standalone' or 'single user' mode. If the console is tagged as secure and your bootstrap isn't passworded (grub lets you password protect the boot mode so that users can only boot the normal multiuser startup), you will be presented with a root prompt. This can be done at the normal boot prompt and no install disk is needed. I can forsee problems in the future as people and companies start believing in turbo security and start encrypting the disk drives. If you lose the key for the drive, you go hungry. It would take a serious bit of horsepower to crack it. Point to note about this, if someone can get your hard drive out of the machine and has the time and resources, ANY encryption scheme can be cracked. There are folks out there with a false sense of security that their data cannot be taken without their consent. This is simply not true. If someone has PHYSICAL access to the machine, then it is NOT secure. Period. That's why you notice that most data centers are in special rooms with cyber locked or pass carded doors. Hope this helps... Cheers! --- Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > More specifically, Bob. At the last meeting when we were working on my > RedHat Linux box (I had the tower next to the guy?s that we put Mandrake 8.0 > on). When we were doing something, you put a command in, I think it was ?-s? > at the boot prompt with the cd install, that let us bypass the password > prompt. Do you remember that I had commented about the fact that that could > be a good issue to talk about security and you had said that anytime anyone > is physically near a box, that the security can be breached. My question for > all of this, is that I have someone that forgot their root password and they > had data they cannot loose. I don?t know which flavor of Linux it is. Any > help would be greatly appreciated from anyone out there. Thanks, > peter@thecybersource.com > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 11 10:44:17 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 - Where is it In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010511144417.66658.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> I actually burned both. You should have both to do an install. You can install from just the install CD but you'll be missing some goodies. No need to bring CD-Rs to replace the ones I give you since we have already had a donation to the group of a pack of them for this purpose. I'll bring several with me to the meeting. Cheers! --- Wayne Melbrod wrote: > Hi, > > Which ISO's did you burn? Mandrake80-inst.iso or Mandrake80-ext.iso ? Or > both? Yes, I would be happy to get a copy(s). I will bring in some blank > CD's for your efforts. > > Thanks, > Wayne > > > >>> meyer_rm@yahoo.com 05/10/01 09:31AM >>> > Hey, that sounds familiar. I brought four copies to the last meeting. Kevin > gave me a whole pile of CD-Rs to burn for the group so if anyone wants a set, > I > could burn a bunch for the next meeting. Let me know so I can determine the > demand. > > Cheers! > > --- Lasse Saarinen wrote: > > It's probably too early to find it in a store around here. However, it > should > > be available online. Also, a lot of people here have disk sets made from > the > > downloadable ISO images, my self included. Someone can always burn you a > > copy for the next meeting. It's the same exact software as in the retail > > package,unless you want the enterprise version of Mandrake, of course. > > > > - Lasse > > > > Wayne Melbrod wrote: > > > Does anyone know where I can get a boxed set? I have tried every store > in > > WNY. It's still all 7.2. Is it too early to get it? Meaning only the > Web > > download is available? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 11 10:46:30 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Question about last meeting In-Reply-To: <20010511143146.41906.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the input Bob. It's been printed for future ref (hopefully not needed). The linux init 1 at the lilo prompt worked perfect. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Meyer Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:32 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Question about last meeting Well, depending on the version of Unix and the machine configuration (hardware passwords, etc), most of the time, you can stuff an install disk in the machine and get to a point that you can mount file systems. With Mandrake systems, you stuff the install CD in the drive and type 'rescue'. From there, you can get to a shell prompt (without a password) that will allow you to mount the root filesystem and make whatever changes that need to be made. Sun systems can be worked the same way unless someone has passworded the boot rom. If that's the case, you have to open the machine up and force a dump of the NVRAM to get it to forget. The '-s' boot flag will typically allow you to reboot the machine into 'standalone' or 'single user' mode. If the console is tagged as secure and your bootstrap isn't passworded (grub lets you password protect the boot mode so that users can only boot the normal multiuser startup), you will be presented with a root prompt. This can be done at the normal boot prompt and no install disk is needed. I can forsee problems in the future as people and companies start believing in turbo security and start encrypting the disk drives. If you lose the key for the drive, you go hungry. It would take a serious bit of horsepower to crack it. Point to note about this, if someone can get your hard drive out of the machine and has the time and resources, ANY encryption scheme can be cracked. There are folks out there with a false sense of security that their data cannot be taken without their consent. This is simply not true. If someone has PHYSICAL access to the machine, then it is NOT secure. Period. That's why you notice that most data centers are in special rooms with cyber locked or pass carded doors. Hope this helps... Cheers! --- Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > More specifically, Bob. At the last meeting when we were working on my > RedHat Linux box (I had the tower next to the guy?s that we put Mandrake 8.0 > on). When we were doing something, you put a command in, I think it was ?-s? > at the boot prompt with the cd install, that let us bypass the password > prompt. Do you remember that I had commented about the fact that that could > be a good issue to talk about security and you had said that anytime anyone > is physically near a box, that the security can be breached. My question for > all of this, is that I have someone that forgot their root password and they > had data they cannot loose. I don?t know which flavor of Linux it is. Any > help would be greatly appreciated from anyone out there. Thanks, > peter@thecybersource.com > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Fri May 11 10:47:07 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Weird? Daemon showing up in 'top' Message-ID: Thank you! I was not nearly so presumptuous to call it a bug. (That implies that I am knowledgeable enough to understand what it should look like!) But it is reassuring to know that the kernel isn't using 94% of it's time asking 'is anything happening yet?') Thanks to all for all the help in the past couple of days. I'll be able to bring 'hermione' on line soon to show at least this corner of the world that linux on a crippled desktop still beats NT on a couple of monster servers! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 Robert Dege ffalo.EDU> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Weird? Daemon showing up in 'top' owner-nflug@n flug.org 05/10/01 09:02 PM Please respond to nflug >>From a Linux listserv: The message quoted below is from a MandrakeSoft co-worker and friend, in a thread discussing APM's kernel thread, and how the idle function uses CPU time. This thread was in response to yet another Bugzilla bug report about kapm-idled using CPU time. Several months ago, kapmd was renamed to kapm-idled in an attempt to signal users that it was a special process, and that its CPU time wasn't "real CPU time." This hasn't silenced the bug reports and confusion. Is there some way to hack the scheduler statistics so that idle processes are special cases, which do not accumulate CPU time nor contribute to the load average? I agree that it's not pretty to special case idle function process(es), but those idle functions in turn are causing an incorrect picture of the system state to be presented to userland. -Rob > This isn't earth shaking, but... > > I'm getting a process showing up when I do a 'top' command called > kapm-idled > > I wouldn't really care about it but it claims to be 94.4% CPU time, which > seems awfully high. Of course, I definitely could be getting the wrong > inference while I am reading it, but it seems to be taking up a lot of the > processor. > > What is this doing? (Methinks and Advanced Power Management daemon, but I'm > looking for other, more knowledgeable guidance) Can I safely kill it? > Remove it? > > If it is APM, then I would like it gone, because this is a server I'm > configuring. I don't want to have to walk past it every 10 minutes and > wiggle the mouse! > > Thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 11 10:56:50 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Mandrake not a beta anymore... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010511145650.48137.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> It's hard to say. I downloaded the Beta 3 and by the time I got the time to burn the thing the release candidate was out. I downloaded and burned that a week or so later and the release hit the streets. I suspect that any differences may be in bug fixes or minor changes. You should be able to run the Mandrake Update utility to pull down newer versions of the things that are there. Cheers! --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > Are there real differences between Beta 3 of Mandrake and the current 8.0 > release? Iinstalled my B3 copy and it seems to be OK, so I would rather not > have to download and install again... > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 11 11:00:59 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010511150059.62106.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> I just replied to a previous post concerning this very topic. If the answer doesn't help, let me know and I'll try to help. Cheers! --- Cyber Source wrote: > Does anyone know how to get into a redhat system if you?ve forgotten the > root password and have no other users? > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From grayde at mail.com Fri May 11 11:25:04 2001 From: grayde at mail.com (devilus gray) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: anyone? Message-ID: <380549745.989594704647.JavaMail.root@web589-mc> lilo: linux init 1. Thats very interesting, But is there any way to disable this for security. ------Original Message------ From: Robert Dege To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Sent: May 11, 2001 12:59:50 AM GMT Subject: Re: anyone? At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Fri May 11 11:34:27 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: anyone? Message-ID: Way cool! This one is going in my archives, too! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Cyber Source" ource.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: anyone? owner-nflug@nflu g.org 05/10/01 10:03 PM Please respond to nflug Oh wise one, It Worked! Thank you very much! peter@thecybersource.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Dege Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:00 PM To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Subject: Re: anyone? At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 11 11:40:27 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: <380549745.989594704647.JavaMail.root@web589-mc> Message-ID: As Bob Meyer mentioned, lock the door, LOL -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of devilus gray Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:25 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: anyone? lilo: linux init 1. Thats very interesting, But is there any way to disable this for security. ------Original Message------ From: Robert Dege To: Niagara Frontier Linux User Sent: May 11, 2001 12:59:50 AM GMT Subject: Re: anyone? At the lilo prompt, type the following: (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) lilo: linux init 1 This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root passwd. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 11 12:01:57 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: anyone? In-Reply-To: <380549745.989594704647.JavaMail.root@web589-mc> Message-ID: I believe that LILO has password protection that you can use to prevent this. Also, you can have LILO NOT prompt prior to bootup (remove the prompt option in /etc/lilo.conf) As a last resort, you can move /bin/sh elsewhere. But this would cause other problems & probably isn't worth it. -Rob > lilo: linux init 1. > Thats very interesting, But is there any way to disable this for security. > > > > ------Original Message------ > From: Robert Dege > To: Niagara Frontier Linux User > Sent: May 11, 2001 12:59:50 AM GMT > Subject: Re: anyone? > > > > At the lilo prompt, type the following: > > (assuming that linux is your default lilo selection) > > > lilo: linux init 1 > > > This will get you to a sh prompt. From there you can change your root > passwd. > > > Dege > > Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but > they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. > > > ______________________________________________ > FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com > Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Fri May 11 18:04:06 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: anyone? Message-ID: of course, after all of this, I needed it myself about ten minutes after I got the last post. Thanks again, everyone! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 From vlokstone at yahoo.com Sat May 12 14:31:39 2001 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: linux tutorials Message-ID: <20010512183139.39153.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> linux journal writer has nice articles on variety of topics. may help. give 'em a whirl. http://www.salmar.com/marcel/ljwritings.html ciao4now vlok __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Mon May 14 11:26:03 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: do you know arcast@coollink.net Message-ID: <3AFFF90B.5B108BD6@phor.com> hello, does anyone know arcast@coollink.net? all messages bound for this domain have been failing for the past 3 weeks to month. i'm going to remove him from the mailing list at the end of the day, so if anyone knows he/she please let them know. thanks -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Mon May 14 13:03:54 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: EXT3 Message-ID: Does anybody know if the 2.4 kernel has builtin support for the ext3 fs? I can only find 2.2 patch files.... but I can't find any info about whether it's in the 2.4 kernel, or if a patch hasn't been made for it yet. Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Mon May 14 13:16:49 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: EXT3 Message-ID: Nevermind, I found my answer. RedHat has a listserv for those developing/beta testing ext3. FYI in regards to my question: ------------------------ On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 09:23:31AM -0500, Todd Harrington wrote: > > Does anyone know when a version of the ext3 filesystems (either beta or > production) will be available for the version 2.4 of the kernel? When it's done, and that depends on when I finish fixing core 2.4 bugs and move to the porting. Nobody knows when 2.4 will be stable: it's still corrupting data silently on ext2 under extreme loads (although we are finding possible cures now...) Cheers, Stephen ------------------------- All I can say is *crap* Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Tue May 15 16:22:24 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless References: Message-ID: <3B019000.E7F66215@phor.com> i like mrtg (Multi Router Traffic Grapher) for monitoring network traffic. it's written in perl and C and works on just about all platforms, unix and window$. http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > > After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a > question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found > out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that > purpose, but what programs actually do it? > > Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic > 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm > getting. > > Thanks! > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Tue May 15 16:28:53 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You could use ethereal. It shows you what protocols are being sent through network traffic. (ie: How many packets of IPX, TCP/IP, NetBIOS, etc.). It is even able to show the source location. www.ethereal.com -Rob > After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a > question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found > out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that > purpose, but what programs actually do it? > > Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic > 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm > getting. > > Thanks! > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From carlyos at Buffalo.com Tue May 15 16:31:25 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless Message-ID: <200105151631.AA155320932@mail.buffalo.com> I have a quick question. I was able to turn everything on in Redhat 7.0 suck as POP and such after searching for a bit, but where are the files you have to edit now in 7.1. Can't seem to find them again :) Seems every version they make it different to turn on the POP and such. Thanks ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Darin Perusich Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:22:24 +0000 >i like mrtg (Multi Router Traffic Grapher) for monitoring network >traffic. it's written in perl and C and works on just about all >platforms, unix and window$. > >http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html > >Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: >> >> After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a >> question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found >> out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that >> purpose, but what programs actually do it? >> >> Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic >> 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm >> getting. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Richard A. Hubbard III >> MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, >> A+, Net+,I-net+ >> Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo >> richard.hubbard@nhwny.com >> phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 >> (716) 206-2241 Direct >> fax (716) 206-2222 > >-- >Darin Perusich >Unix Administrator >Cognigen Corp. >darinper@cognigencorp.com > From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue May 15 16:35:01 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010515203501.58448.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Well, where do you want to start? :-) There's "nmap", "ethereal", "cheops", "tcpdump",... You get the idea. The best thing to do is check a couple of the sites like "freshmeat.net" for "network monitoring". A quick check on freshmeat shows 55 projects that match the generic "network monitoring" search pattern. Of the ones that I've looked at (cursory at best), I tend to like "ethereal". Their slogan appears to be: "Sniffing the glue that holds the internet together". Lots of good stuff out there, especially if you want to map your network or monitor stuff with SNMP. Cheers! Bob Meyer --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a > question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found > out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that > purpose, but what programs actually do it? > > Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic > 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm > getting. > > Thanks! > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Tue May 15 16:50:03 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless In-Reply-To: <200105151631.AA155320932@mail.buffalo.com> Message-ID: In 7.1, most of the services are located in the directory /etc/xinetd.d This doesn't contain info about a POP service , but other services like telnet, rlogin, ftp, etc. are located there. To activate any of these services, you need to modify the appropriate file (ie: >cd /etc/xinetd.d/ ; >vi telnet ) and either comment out or remove the line that says 'disable = yes' I prefer to comment out. This way, you don't have to remember the commands if you need to reimplement them in the future for some reason. Programs can be so finicky with config files :) Then all you have to do is restart xinetd & you're all set `/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart` As for a POP program, I'm not familiar with one that was installed with Redhat 7.1. All I'm familiar with is sendmail (in reference to mail delivery). But you can always install qpopper. A pretty good (and free) POP server. -Rob > I have a quick question. I was able to turn everything on in Redhat 7.0 suck as POP and such after searching for a bit, but where are the files you have to edit now in 7.1. Can't seem to find them again :) Seems every version they make it different to turn on the POP and such. > > > Thanks > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Darin Perusich > Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org > Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:22:24 +0000 > > >i like mrtg (Multi Router Traffic Grapher) for monitoring network > >traffic. it's written in perl and C and works on just about all > >platforms, unix and window$. > > > >http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html > > > >Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > >> > >> After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a > >> question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found > >> out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that > >> purpose, but what programs actually do it? > >> > >> Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic > >> 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm > >> getting. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Richard A. Hubbard III > >> MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > >> A+, Net+,I-net+ > >> Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > >> richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > >> phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > >> (716) 206-2241 Direct > >> fax (716) 206-2222 > > > >-- > >Darin Perusich > >Unix Administrator > >Cognigen Corp. > >darinper@cognigencorp.com > > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Tue May 15 19:10:19 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless Message-ID: After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that purpose, but what programs actually do it? Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm getting. Thanks! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 From wmelbrod at mandtbank.com Wed May 16 07:26:09 2001 From: wmelbrod at mandtbank.com (Wayne Melbrod) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Linux Course Message-ID: As a positive note: I ran across a Linux course being offered this fall at U.B. Has anybody ever taken it? It's good to see Linux getting formal recognition. Usually (non computer science) corses/training at UB tend to be windows centric. Is S. Crowley a local expert/advocate? Your thoughts? - Wayne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (snip: From the online catalog) MFC 213 - LINUX Section MFC Lecture, 3.00 credits Registration #: 118056 Time: W, 19:00 - 21:40 Dates: 08/27/2001 - 12/07/2001 Location: 115 BALDY [view map] Instructor: CROWLEY, S From chrism at fsenablers.com Wed May 16 09:31:34 2001 From: chrism at fsenablers.com (Chris Martin) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Linux Course In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I haven't taken it yet, but I will be taking it next semester (fall). I don't know what book they are using yet (usually a pretty good indicator of how the course will go. I really hope its not one of those teach yourself foo in X days/hours/minutes books.) I'm taking primarily for the easy A (and I really hope the prof doesn't happen to be on this list). In any event, I can let you know how the class goes once I start taking it. Chris Martin Lead Developer, FSenablers, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Wayne Melbrod Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:26 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Linux Course As a positive note: I ran across a Linux course being offered this fall at U.B. Has anybody ever taken it? It's good to see Linux getting formal recognition. Usually (non computer science) corses/training at UB tend to be windows centric. Is S. Crowley a local expert/advocate? Your thoughts? - Wayne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (snip: From the online catalog) MFC 213 - LINUX Section MFC Lecture, 3.00 credits Registration #: 118056 Time: W, 19:00 - 21:40 Dates: 08/27/2001 - 12/07/2001 Location: 115 BALDY [view map] Instructor: CROWLEY, S From wmelbrod at mandtbank.com Wed May 16 13:52:12 2001 From: wmelbrod at mandtbank.com (Wayne Melbrod) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Linux Course Message-ID: I signed up for it as well. So we are classmates. You will recognize me. I will be the guy sitting in the back in fear that the class will filll up with Debian - lovin guru's. I am really looking forward to a hard C. :-) >>> chrism@fsenablers.com 05/16/01 09:31AM >>> I haven't taken it yet, but I will be taking it next semester (fall). I don't know what book they are using yet (usually a pretty good indicator of how the course will go. I really hope its not one of those teach yourself foo in X days/hours/minutes books.) I'm taking primarily for the easy A (and I really hope the prof doesn't happen to be on this list). In any event, I can let you know how the class goes once I start taking it. Chris Martin Lead Developer, FSenablers, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Wayne Melbrod Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:26 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Linux Course As a positive note: I ran across a Linux course being offered this fall at U.B. Has anybody ever taken it? It's good to see Linux getting formal recognition. Usually (non computer science) corses/training at UB tend to be windows centric. Is S. Crowley a local expert/advocate? Your thoughts? - Wayne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (snip: From the online catalog) MFC 213 - LINUX Section MFC Lecture, 3.00 credits Registration #: 118056 Time: W, 19:00 - 21:40 Dates: 08/27/2001 - 12/07/2001 Location: 115 BALDY [view map] Instructor: CROWLEY, S From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Wed May 16 14:14:58 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: sunday's meeting Message-ID: <3B02C3A2.90742609@phor.com> hello, i've revieved a few emails from interested people inquiring if there is a meeting this sunday. i won't be able to make it, the army reserve doesn't see a LUG meeting as a legitimate excuse to miss drill. if they only knew. i'll also be updating the web page tonight to reflect this weekend also. thanks -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Wed May 16 19:16:04 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless Message-ID: Thanks to all! I had completely forgotten about freshmeat.net! I'll see what I have already in my bag of tricks, and then do a download or two. Again, thanks very much for the help! Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 Robert Meyer cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: another question for the knowledgeable from the clueless owner-nflug@n flug.org 05/15/01 04:35 PM Please respond to nflug Well, where do you want to start? :-) There's "nmap", "ethereal", "cheops", "tcpdump",... You get the idea. The best thing to do is check a couple of the sites like "freshmeat.net" for "network monitoring". A quick check on freshmeat shows 55 projects that match the generic "network monitoring" search pattern. Of the ones that I've looked at (cursory at best), I tend to like "ethereal". Their slogan appears to be: "Sniffing the glue that holds the internet together". Lots of good stuff out there, especially if you want to map your network or monitor stuff with SNMP. Cheers! Bob Meyer --- Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com wrote: > After installing Red Hat (ok, i just had to look at 7.1...) I had a > question. What tools are out there for monitoring the network? I found > out that there is a way to switch the nic to promiscuous mode for that > purpose, but what programs actually do it? > > Actually, I don't even need promiscuous mode, I'm just looking for a basic > 'top' like tool that can tell me what data rate and network utilization i'm > getting. > > Thanks! > > > Richard A. Hubbard III > MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, > A+, Net+,I-net+ > Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo > richard.hubbard@nhwny.com > phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 > (716) 206-2241 Direct > fax (716) 206-2222 > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From tracy.hochheimer at sympatico.ca Wed May 16 22:55:56 2001 From: tracy.hochheimer at sympatico.ca (Gregory D Hough) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Linux Course References: Message-ID: <3B033DBC.5507BD3C@sympatico.ca> Chris Martin wrote: > > I haven't taken it yet, but I will be taking it next semester (fall). I > don't know what book they are using yet (usually a pretty good indicator of > how the course will go. I really hope its not one of those teach yourself > foo in X days/hours/minutes books.) I'm taking primarily for the easy A If it is "Linux for DUMMIES" I would avoid it.... > (and I really hope the prof doesn't happen to be on this list). In any > event, I can let you know how the class goes once I start taking it. -- farmer greg http://www3.sympatico.ca/tracy.hochheimer/index.html From wmelbrod at mandtbank.com Thu May 17 07:34:55 2001 From: wmelbrod at mandtbank.com (Wayne Melbrod) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Meeting This Sunday Message-ID: Is there a meeting this Sunday? I was hoping to get a copy of Mandrake 8.0. Regards, Wayne From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Thu May 17 08:29:15 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Meeting This Sunday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have both ISO images on my machine. If there is a meeting this Sunday, I could burn a copy or 3 ;) It's been a while since I've been there, but it's at the Statler building, 1pm, correct? > Is there a meeting this Sunday? I was hoping to get a copy of Mandrake 8.0. > > Regards, > Wayne > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From carl.luberti at eds.com Thu May 17 11:06:55 2001 From: carl.luberti at eds.com (Luberti, Carl) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: seems like IBM is getting to us (my employer, that is)... Message-ID: Just wanted to let anyone know that EDS (Electronic Data Systems) has added Linux to it's list of supported operating systems, and has started a training program for internal support personnel, management, and sales as well. This course IS NOT a dummies course, and is tailored to the needs of it's pupils (the sales guys learn how to sell it, management learns how to do something (whatever management actually does :), and support and design personnel learn the ins and outs, from a basic level to a very advanced level. These courses are being offered to all employees in the organization. Seems like IBM (our biggest competitor) has gotten to upper management. I'm glad they've started this though. I know this doesn't affect anyone, but when any company, especially one with the clout that EDS (or IBM) has, it's a good thing for the community and open source in general. EDS still thinks Windows for the desktop and Unix for high availability servers and large clusters, but everything in between has been labeled "fair game" for Linux. A business case no longer needs to be made, and Linux can be used on high end workstations, web servers, mail servers (goodbye Exchange!!!), and small to medium size clusters and application/database servers. We can use Debian, TurboLinux, Caldera OpenDesktop and Server, RedHat, and FreeBSD/NetBSD as stated. I'm in heaven (almost)... > Carlo Luberti > EDS - New York Solution Centre > NYSC Design Cell - Platform > 25 Northpointe Pkwy. > Amherst, NY 14228 > * phone: +01-716-564-6678 > * pager: +01-716-623-9062 > * mailto:carl.luberti@eds.com > http://www.eds.com > > From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 17 12:01:33 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Meeting This Sunday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010517160133.63759.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Yep, there's a meeting. I'm going to be bringing several copies of Mandrake 8.0 with me. Cheers! Bob --- Wayne Melbrod wrote: > Is there a meeting this Sunday? I was hoping to get a copy of Mandrake 8.0. > > Regards, > Wayne > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 17 12:03:07 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: Meeting This Sunday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010517160307.73087.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> You can bring some if you want. I was given a bunch of CD-Rs for this purpose, so if you bring some and hand them out, we can replace the disks that you use. I'm bringing a bunch of copies with me, too. I suspect that with the both of us bringing some, we'll have enough :-) Cheers! Bob --- Robert Dege wrote: > > I have both ISO images on my machine. If there is a meeting this Sunday, > I could burn a copy or 3 ;) > > It's been a while since I've been there, but it's at the Statler building, > 1pm, correct? > > > Is there a meeting this Sunday? I was hoping to get a copy of Mandrake > 8.0. > > > > Regards, > > Wayne > > > > > > > > Dege > > Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but > they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Thu May 17 12:14:08 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: [Fwd: LINUX EXPO NEW YORK !!!] Message-ID: <3B03F8D0.C2BEB87B@phor.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D6C3152A0D130F7DB98A0F17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, this came in this afternoon, would this be of interest to anyone. -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com --------------D6C3152A0D130F7DB98A0F17 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from randi.phor.com (randi.phor.com [209.118.201.19]) by petard.phor.com (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) with ESMTP id e4HG3Hs16606 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:03:17 -0400 Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by randi.phor.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21623 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 11:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrea ([64.231.238.27]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010517160140.EOJD16174.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@andrea> for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 12:01:40 -0400 From: "Andrea Roy" To: Subject: LINUX EXPO NEW YORK !!! Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:01:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: High X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Hello dear lug, This is my 3td emails....hope you will have time to answer me today !!! I am studing very seriously now the possibility of doing 2 days conferences in New York before the end of this year. It would be technical talks only. Our tagetted audience would be: IT Manager IT Project Manager Webmaster Network Operation Staff Software Support Staff Engineer Program Analyst Development Engineer Technical Advisor Graphic Creator I would have 7 sponsors (linux/or open source companies) that would pay to be a sponsor: they would have included : 2 conferences of 40 minutes each Demontration table for your products Logo and link on our website Logo on all our publicities Visitor's Database Public Relation (media, press etc�) something like that. I need the local lugs support, for sure, I am doing the samething here in Montreal, June 13 and 14th. I would love to do something in New York What I am looking for : 1- Have the your lug support (exchange of logo, help on site for the registration etc etc... no money involved)and other LUG of your area 2- Find a technical school in New York where people would go to attend. (350 places at least) (WOuld you have names?? COllege, University etc) If I don't have your support there is no point for me to do something in your area. It is very important for me. Please get back to me to let me know what you think of the project. I have to pick 2 cities for 2001 and another 5 for 2002. The concept is great (I think :-) and I do it for the tech people that we forget most of the time !! Sorry for my english that is not perfect !! Warmest regards, Andrea Roy Directrice/Director Skyevents Am�riques Tel: 514 842 2221 Cel: 514 999 9792 www.linux-expo.com Montreal, June 13-14, 2001- Canada www.linuxexpomontreal.com Sao Paulo May 9-10, 2001- Brazil Shanghai May 15-18, 2001- China Milan June 6-7, 2001- Italy Birmingham, September 12-13, 2001, UK Road Show East Country September, 2001 2002 Paris January 30-31-1, 2002- France Amsterdam February 19,20, 2002- Netherlands Madrid April, 3-4, 2002- Espana Very Soon Linux Expo Mexico, Germany, Singapore --------------D6C3152A0D130F7DB98A0F17-- From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 17 15:30:40 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: seems like IBM is getting to us (my employer, that is)... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010517193040.60704.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> This is just WAY cool! Sounds like EDS is being dragged into the fray. This can only be good for the Linux world. Where do I sign up? :-) Bob --- "Luberti, Carl" wrote: > Just wanted to let anyone know that EDS (Electronic Data Systems) has added > Linux to it's list of supported operating systems, and has started a > training program for internal support personnel, management, and sales as > well. This course IS NOT a dummies course, and is tailored to the needs of > it's pupils (the sales guys learn how to sell it, management learns how to > do something (whatever management actually does :), and support and design > personnel learn the ins and outs, from a basic level to a very advanced > level. These courses are being offered to all employees in the > organization. Seems like IBM (our biggest competitor) has gotten to upper > management. I'm glad they've started this though. I know this doesn't > affect anyone, but when any company, especially one with the clout that EDS > (or IBM) has, it's a good thing for the community and open source in > general. EDS still thinks Windows for the desktop and Unix for high > availability servers and large clusters, but everything in between has been > labeled "fair game" for Linux. A business case no longer needs to be made, > and Linux can be used on high end workstations, web servers, mail servers > (goodbye Exchange!!!), and small to medium size clusters and > application/database servers. We can use Debian, TurboLinux, Caldera > OpenDesktop and Server, RedHat, and FreeBSD/NetBSD as stated. I'm in heaven > (almost)... > > > Carlo Luberti > > EDS - New York Solution Centre > > NYSC Design Cell - Platform > > 25 Northpointe Pkwy. > > Amherst, NY 14228 > > * phone: +01-716-564-6678 > > * pager: +01-716-623-9062 > > * mailto:carl.luberti@eds.com > > http://www.eds.com > > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From carl.luberti at eds.com Thu May 17 15:55:30 2001 From: carl.luberti at eds.com (Luberti, Carl) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: seems like IBM is getting to us (my employer, that is)... Message-ID: http://www.eds.com :) -----Original Message----- From: Robert Meyer [mailto:meyer_rm@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:31 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: seems like IBM is getting to us (my employer, that is)... This is just WAY cool! Sounds like EDS is being dragged into the fray. This can only be good for the Linux world. Where do I sign up? :-) Bob --- "Luberti, Carl" wrote: > Just wanted to let anyone know that EDS (Electronic Data Systems) has added > Linux to it's list of supported operating systems, and has started a > training program for internal support personnel, management, and sales as > well. This course IS NOT a dummies course, and is tailored to the needs of > it's pupils (the sales guys learn how to sell it, management learns how to > do something (whatever management actually does :), and support and design > personnel learn the ins and outs, from a basic level to a very advanced > level. These courses are being offered to all employees in the > organization. Seems like IBM (our biggest competitor) has gotten to upper > management. I'm glad they've started this though. I know this doesn't > affect anyone, but when any company, especially one with the clout that EDS > (or IBM) has, it's a good thing for the community and open source in > general. EDS still thinks Windows for the desktop and Unix for high > availability servers and large clusters, but everything in between has been > labeled "fair game" for Linux. A business case no longer needs to be made, > and Linux can be used on high end workstations, web servers, mail servers > (goodbye Exchange!!!), and small to medium size clusters and > application/database servers. We can use Debian, TurboLinux, Caldera > OpenDesktop and Server, RedHat, and FreeBSD/NetBSD as stated. I'm in heaven > (almost)... > > > Carlo Luberti > > EDS - New York Solution Centre > > NYSC Design Cell - Platform > > 25 Northpointe Pkwy. > > Amherst, NY 14228 > > * phone: +01-716-564-6678 > > * pager: +01-716-623-9062 > > * mailto:carl.luberti@eds.com > > http://www.eds.com > > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From josephj at adelphia.net Fri May 18 09:09:43 2001 From: josephj at adelphia.net (Joe Pollock) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: lilo.conf? Message-ID: <006f01c0df9b$ce8c4cc0$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C0DF7A.46F465C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. I'm running Red Hat 7.0 on a dual boot system with Windoz 98 se. = Can someone post a lilo.conf file that will default boot to Windoz? = I've tried several things and they all seem to be ignored. Thanks. Joe ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C0DF7A.46F465C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C0DF7A.46F465C0-- From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Fri May 18 09:21:34 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: question for windows2000 admins Message-ID: <3B0521DE.6B70CDF9@phor.com> hello, i'm looking for a way to disable outlook express on a windows 2000 machine running terminal services. we're using citrix metaframe to push the all mighty office 2000 out to our unix clients and we don't want users using outlook. we've actually found that you can disable the execution of outlook itself but internet explorer can still call it up. how evil is that! any suggestions are much appreciated. -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 18 09:37:41 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: question for windows2000 admins In-Reply-To: <3B0521DE.6B70CDF9@phor.com> Message-ID: You should be able to go to the outlook express program itself and in the security section, either remove all permissions or deny them all, or as needed. peter@thecybersource.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Darin Perusich Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:22 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: question for windows2000 admins hello, i'm looking for a way to disable outlook express on a windows 2000 machine running terminal services. we're using citrix metaframe to push the all mighty office 2000 out to our unix clients and we don't want users using outlook. we've actually found that you can disable the execution of outlook itself but internet explorer can still call it up. how evil is that! any suggestions are much appreciated. -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 18 10:58:37 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:06 2007 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? Message-ID: <20010518145837.33966.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have a list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a buncha folks :-) We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have opinions on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that we can get some varied opinions on the subject. Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From carlyos at Buffalo.com Fri May 18 11:05:40 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? Message-ID: <200105181105.AA6488718@mail.buffalo.com> Hehehehe yea how about finding the file to allow access to port 110 on redhat 7.1. I still can't find it in all the places it was in 6.0 or 7.0, grrrrr :). Why does Redhat change everything up like that will each version. Maybe I should drop solaris 8 for intel on instead :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Robert Meyer Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT) >Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have a >list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a >buncha folks :-) > >We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we >have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have opinions >on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any >takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that we >can get some varied opinions on the subject. > >Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? > >Cheers! > >Bob > >===== >Bob Meyer >Knightwing Communications, Inc. >36 Cayuga Blvd >Depew, NY 14043 >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 18 11:29:03 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? In-Reply-To: <200105181105.AA6488718@mail.buffalo.com> Message-ID: I think a better question is what pop3 program do you have installed? I'm running 7.1 at work, & I still can't find a pop3 server installed by default. However, 110 access is controlled through /etc/services. If it isn't specified in there (or if it's commented out), then it won't work. Plus you also need a daemon listening on that port ;) hey Bob, how about an intro to FrameBuffer in console mode? it includes kernel hacking, lilo hacking, and offers some really cool results. I'd be more than happy to implement it on someone's machine (I don't think I'll be bringing mine this Sunday). I'm going to build a Frankenstein machine instead :) Or what about info on Samba? -Rob > Hehehehe yea how about finding the file to allow access to port 110 on redhat 7.1. I still can't find it in all the places it was in 6.0 or 7.0, grrrrr :). Why does Redhat change everything up like that will each version. Maybe I should drop solaris 8 for intel on instead :) > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Robert Meyer > Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org > Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT) > > >Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have a > >list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a > >buncha folks :-) > > > >We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we > >have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have opinions > >on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any > >takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that we > >can get some varied opinions on the subject. > > > >Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? > > > >Cheers! > > > >Bob > > > >===== > >Bob Meyer > >Knightwing Communications, Inc. > >36 Cayuga Blvd > >Depew, NY 14043 > >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From carlyos at Buffalo.com Fri May 18 11:41:15 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? Message-ID: <200105181141.AA1313669736@mail.buffalo.com> Hehehehe well then I guess I am not running one then either because I was looking for the default one also :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Robert Dege Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:29:03 -0400 (EDT) > >I think a better question is what pop3 program do you have installed? I'm >running 7.1 at work, & I still can't find a pop3 server installed by >default. > >However, 110 access is controlled through /etc/services. If it isn't >specified in there (or if it's commented out), then it won't work. > >Plus you also need a daemon listening on that port ;) > > >hey Bob, how about an intro to FrameBuffer in console mode? it includes >kernel hacking, lilo hacking, and offers some really cool results. I'd be >more than happy to implement it on someone's machine (I don't think I'll >be bringing mine this Sunday). I'm going to build a Frankenstein >machine instead :) > >Or what about info on Samba? > > >-Rob > >> Hehehehe yea how about finding the file to allow access to port 110 on redhat 7.1. I still can't find it in all the places it was in 6.0 or 7.0, grrrrr :). Why does Redhat change everything up like that will each version. Maybe I should drop solaris 8 for intel on instead :) >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: Robert Meyer >> Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have a >> >list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a >> >buncha folks :-) >> > >> >We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we >> >have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have opinions >> >on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any >> >takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that we >> >can get some varied opinions on the subject. >> > >> >Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? >> > >> >Cheers! >> > >> >Bob >> > >> >===== >> >Bob Meyer >> >Knightwing Communications, Inc. >> >36 Cayuga Blvd >> >Depew, NY 14043 >> >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 >> >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Do You Yahoo!? >> >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >> >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> > >> > > > >Dege > >Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but >they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. > > From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 18 11:48:39 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? In-Reply-To: <200105181105.AA6488718@mail.buffalo.com> Message-ID: <20010518154839.79465.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Three places: /etc/services to make sure that 110 is assigned to pop, /etc/inetd.conf to make sure that there is a program to fire off when someone connects to port 110, /etc/hosts.allow (and hosts.deny) to make sure that TCP Wrapper will allow the connection to port 110. You also want to make sure that the programs 'tcpd' and the pop program mentioned in inetd.conf exist. Cheers! Bob --- Carl Yost wrote: > Hehehehe yea how about finding the file to allow access to port 110 on redhat > 7.1. I still can't find it in all the places it was in 6.0 or 7.0, grrrrr :). > Why does Redhat change everything up like that will each version. Maybe I > should drop solaris 8 for intel on instead :) > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Robert Meyer > Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org > Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT) > > >Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have > a > >list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a > >buncha folks :-) > > > >We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we > >have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have > opinions > >on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any > >takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that > we > >can get some varied opinions on the subject. > > > >Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? > > > >Cheers! > > > >Bob > > > >===== > >Bob Meyer > >Knightwing Communications, Inc. > >36 Cayuga Blvd > >Depew, NY 14043 > >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 18 11:52:26 2001 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: lilo.conf? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That must have something to do with the mbr, I had the same problem when I mirrored a drive and then tried to boot with it -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:32 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: lilo.conf? This may be a really stupid suggestion, but this fixed a similar problem I was having. I had the dreaded LI startup problem with a large hard drive. So I talked to some really smart people, and they told me to put LBA32 in lilo.conf. and still got LI, for several reboots (i used a boot floppy to start up when the hard drive didn't) finally, I was told, that after changing lilo.conf, you have to run lilo in that session to make the changes to the MBR. Sorry if you already did that, but that's just my best guess from my experience. Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Joe Pollock" phia.net> cc: Sent by: Subject: lilo.conf? owner-nflug@n flug.org 05/18/01 09:09 AM Please respond to nflug Hi. I'm running Red Hat 7.0 on a dual boot system with Windoz 98 se. Can someone post a lilo.conf file that will default boot to Windoz? I've tried several things and they all seem to be ignored. Thanks. Joe From carlyos at Buffalo.com Fri May 18 11:56:01 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? Message-ID: <200105181156.AA32047764@mail.buffalo.com> Thanks ! ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Robert Meyer Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:48:39 -0700 (PDT) >Three places: /etc/services to make sure that 110 is assigned to pop, >/etc/inetd.conf to make sure that there is a program to fire off when someone >connects to port 110, /etc/hosts.allow (and hosts.deny) to make sure that TCP >Wrapper will allow the connection to port 110. You also want to make sure that >the programs 'tcpd' and the pop program mentioned in inetd.conf exist. > >Cheers! > >Bob >--- Carl Yost wrote: >> Hehehehe yea how about finding the file to allow access to port 110 on redhat >> 7.1. I still can't find it in all the places it was in 6.0 or 7.0, grrrrr :). >> Why does Redhat change everything up like that will each version. Maybe I >> should drop solaris 8 for intel on instead :) >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: Robert Meyer >> Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have >> a >> >list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a >> >buncha folks :-) >> > >> >We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we >> >have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have >> opinions >> >on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any >> >takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that >> we >> >can get some varied opinions on the subject. >> > >> >Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? >> > >> >Cheers! >> > >> >Bob >> > >> >===== >> >Bob Meyer >> >Knightwing Communications, Inc. >> >36 Cayuga Blvd >> >Depew, NY 14043 >> >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 >> >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Do You Yahoo!? >> >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >> >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> > > > >===== >Bob Meyer >Knightwing Communications, Inc. >36 Cayuga Blvd >Depew, NY 14043 >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From sonofrage at yahoo.com Fri May 18 12:06:18 2001 From: sonofrage at yahoo.com (Samuel Morales Jr.) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: [Fwd: LINUX EXPO NEW YORK !!!] In-Reply-To: <3B03F8D0.C2BEB87B@phor.com> Message-ID: <20010518160618.49212.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> I got the same email for my group. When I responded that I was interested she starting talking about people paying $300 for a 2 day conference. =P --- Darin Perusich wrote: > hello, > > this came in this afternoon, would this be of > interest to anyone. > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > From: "Andrea Roy" > To: > Subject: LINUX EXPO NEW YORK !!! > Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:01:00 -0400 > > Hello dear lug, > > This is my 3td emails....hope you will have time to > answer me today !!! > > > I am studing very seriously now the possibility of > doing 2 days conferences > in New York before the end of this year. It would > be technical talks only. > Our tagetted audience would be: > > IT Manager > IT Project Manager > Webmaster > Network Operation Staff > Software Support Staff > Engineer > Program Analyst > Development Engineer > Technical Advisor > Graphic Creator > > I would have 7 sponsors (linux/or open source > companies) that would pay to > be a sponsor: they would have included : > > 2 conferences of 40 minutes each > Demontration table for your products > Logo and link on our website > Logo on all our publicities > Visitor's Database > Public Relation (media, press etc?) > > something like that. > > I need the local lugs support, for sure, I am doing > the samething here in > Montreal, June 13 and 14th. > > I would love to do something in New York > > What I am looking for : > > 1- Have the your lug support (exchange of logo, help > on site for the > registration etc etc... no money involved)and other > LUG of your area > > 2- Find a technical school in New York where people > would go to attend. (350 > places at least) > (WOuld you have names?? COllege, University etc) > > If I don't have your support there is no point for > me to do something in > your area. It is very important for me. > > Please get back to me to let me know what you think > of the project. > > I have to pick 2 cities for 2001 and another 5 for > 2002. The concept is > great (I think :-) and I do it for the tech people > that we forget most of > the time !! > > Sorry for my english that is not perfect !! > > Warmest regards, > > > Andrea Roy > Directrice/Director Skyevents Am�riques > > Tel: 514 842 2221 > Cel: 514 999 9792 > > www.linux-expo.com > > Montreal, June 13-14, 2001- Canada > www.linuxexpomontreal.com > > Sao Paulo May 9-10, 2001- Brazil > Shanghai May 15-18, 2001- China > Milan June 6-7, 2001- Italy > Birmingham, September 12-13, 2001, UK > Road Show East Country September, 2001 > > 2002 > Paris January 30-31-1, 2002- France > Amsterdam February 19,20, 2002- Netherlands > Madrid April, 3-4, 2002- Espana > > Very Soon Linux Expo > Mexico, Germany, Singapore > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Fri May 18 13:32:58 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? -- Suggestion In-Reply-To: <20010518145837.33966.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006101c0dfc0$951b67d0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> All: I would be very interested on Linux security practices. Working for the government security is one of our main concerns. At this point a Linux server cannot be used unless a formal security plan has been typed up and a flow chart made. This makes it kind of hard to document a security plan for an OS that has no "true" standards unless standards are made by the SysAd. Finding out what practices for security are used in the "Industry" for linux would really help. Things I would like to know: * Linux Security Measurements -- Network * " " -- Users * " " -- System/Configuration * " " -- Public Services (FTP, HTTP, Secure Shell, Chroot environments [how-to]) * Virus Scanning and/or Virus secuirty practices * Server Fail-Over practices (If the main server is attacked and brought down what type of configuration should the fail-over server have to ensure that the same attack will not affect it as did the primary server). All of the above topics are required to be in full documentation before any system here is brought online. Once these procedures are approved then the server can go into "production". At some point I also would like to learn how to secure the network using Linux's routing features (now incorporated into the kernel for 2.4?) and best security practices for DNS/Bind ( This could be a whole meeting in itself). Thank You for Your Time! Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Meyer Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:59 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have a list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a buncha folks :-) We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have opinions on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that we can get some varied opinions on the subject. Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Fri May 18 13:40:51 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: lilo.conf? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006301c0dfc1$aeac6630$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> In my experiences Ive noticed that the simplest answer is usuall the solution. After you made the changes to the linux.conf file did you run lilo before rebooting? Dont take offense to this answer but I know when I was setting up my machine a while back, mind you it was like 2am, I forgot to run lilo after making changes. Because of that I wasted like 3 hours!!! Ill NEVER make that mistake again. Also try this link it may help -- http://www.lugor.org/sig/newbie/lilo/ Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:32 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: lilo.conf? This may be a really stupid suggestion, but this fixed a similar problem I was having. I had the dreaded LI startup problem with a large hard drive. So I talked to some really smart people, and they told me to put LBA32 in lilo.conf. and still got LI, for several reboots (i used a boot floppy to start up when the hard drive didn't) finally, I was told, that after changing lilo.conf, you have to run lilo in that session to make the changes to the MBR. Sorry if you already did that, but that's just my best guess from my experience. Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Joe Pollock" phia.net> cc: Sent by: Subject: lilo.conf? owner-nflug@n flug.org 05/18/01 09:09 AM Please respond to nflug Hi. I'm running Red Hat 7.0 on a dual boot system with Windoz 98 se. Can someone post a lilo.conf file that will default boot to Windoz? I've tried several things and they all seem to be ignored. Thanks. Joe From Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com Fri May 18 14:31:40 2001 From: Richard.Hubbard at nhwny.com (Richard.Hubbard@nhwny.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: lilo.conf? Message-ID: This may be a really stupid suggestion, but this fixed a similar problem I was having. I had the dreaded LI startup problem with a large hard drive. So I talked to some really smart people, and they told me to put LBA32 in lilo.conf. and still got LI, for several reboots (i used a boot floppy to start up when the hard drive didn't) finally, I was told, that after changing lilo.conf, you have to run lilo in that session to make the changes to the MBR. Sorry if you already did that, but that's just my best guess from my experience. Richard A. Hubbard III MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD, MCT, CLI, CLP,LCI,LCP, A+, Net+,I-net+ Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo richard.hubbard@nhwny.com phone (716) 681-8500 x2241 (716) 206-2241 Direct fax (716) 206-2222 "Joe Pollock" phia.net> cc: Sent by: Subject: lilo.conf? owner-nflug@n flug.org 05/18/01 09:09 AM Please respond to nflug Hi. I'm running Red Hat 7.0 on a dual boot system with Windoz 98 se. Can someone post a lilo.conf file that will default boot to Windoz? I've tried several things and they all seem to be ignored. Thanks. Joe From josephj at adelphia.net Fri May 18 14:37:06 2001 From: josephj at adelphia.net (Joe Pollock) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Sunday Message-ID: <001a01c0dfc9$ce8de480$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DFA8.0353D7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. I am hoping to attend with my machine. I have a bunch of small = issues that I need help with - most notably, getting ftape installed and = running. I am looking for a ride from the Williamsville area (near Maple and = North Forest). See you soon. Joe ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DFA8.0353D7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi. I am hoping to attend with my machine. I have a = bunch of=20 small issues that I need help with - most notably, getting ftape = installed and=20 running.

I am looking for a ride from the Williamsville area (near Maple and = North=20 Forest).

See you soon. Joe

------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DFA8.0353D7A0-- From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Fri May 18 14:51:58 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Server for Sale Message-ID: <007a01c0dfcb$9e8538e0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C0DFAA.177398E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know I announced a while back that I was getting rid of my server, well here it is. A few emails were recieved saying that everyone is always looking for servers -- Here is what Im getting rid of: Ebay Posting: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1239049954 Personal Posting: www.sherman2k.com (Personal contact information on the site) If you know anyone interested please forward this email and if your lead buys the server I will include a small finders fee to be determined at the time of the sale (nothing crazy and must be agreed by all parties). Thank You, Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C0DFAA.177398E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ebay = Posting: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1239= 049954

Personal Posting: www.sherman2k.com (Personal = contact=20 information on the site)

Thank=20 You,

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Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C0DFAA.177398E0-- From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Fri May 18 14:55:11 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Sunday In-Reply-To: <001a01c0dfc9$ce8de480$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <008101c0dfcc$115eecd0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0DFAA.8A4D4CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe I am close to that area -- Give me some contact information so we can schedule times. (I live About 10min away from you -- Cheektowaga Area) Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Joe Pollock Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:37 PM To: NFLUG Subject: Sunday Hi. I am hoping to attend with my machine. I have a bunch of small issues that I need help with - most notably, getting ftape installed and running. I am looking for a ride from the Williamsville area (near Maple and North Forest). See you soon. Joe ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0DFAA.8A4D4CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Joe I=20 am close to that area -- Give me some contact information so we can = schedule=20 times. (I live About 10min away from you -- Cheektowaga=20 Area)

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-nflug@nflug.org=20 [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Joe = Pollock
Sent:=20 Friday, May 18, 2001 2:37 PM
To: NFLUG
Subject:=20 Sunday

Hi. I am hoping to attend with my machine. I have a = bunch of=20 small issues that I need help with - most notably, getting ftape = installed and=20 running.

I am looking for a ride from the Williamsville area (near Maple = and North=20 Forest).

See you soon. Joe

------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0DFAA.8A4D4CD0-- From josephj at adelphia.net Fri May 18 23:54:53 2001 From: josephj at adelphia.net (Joe Pollock) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Sunday References: <008101c0dfcc$115eecd0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <004e01c0e017$76cba0e0$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0DFF5.EEF09660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ronald K. Wechter=20 To: nflug@nflug.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:55 PM Subject: RE: Sunday Joe I am close to that area -- Give me some contact information so we = can schedule times. (I live About 10min away from you -- Cheektowaga = Area) Ron Thanks a lot. Send me an email at josephj@adelphia.net. Then I'll have = your email address so I can send you all my contact info privately. No = point in putting all that out on the list. Type to you soon. Joe ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0DFF5.EEF09660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:55 = PM

Subject: RE: Sunday

Joe=20 I am close to that area -- Give me some contact information so we can = schedule=20 times. (I live About 10min away from you -- Cheektowaga=20 Area)

Ron

------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0DFF5.EEF09660-- From javabob at localnet.com Sun May 20 05:52:32 2001 From: javabob at localnet.com (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? -- Suggestion References: <006101c0dfc0$951b67d0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <3B0793E0.6A125831@localnet.com> "Ronald K. Wechter" wrote: > All: > > I would be very interested on Linux security practices. Working for the > government security is one of our main concerns. At this point a Linux > server cannot be used unless a formal security plan has been typed up and a > flow chart made. This makes it kind of hard to document a security plan for > an OS that has no "true" standards unless standards are made by the SysAd. > Finding out what practices for security are used in the "Industry" for linux > would really help. > > Things I would like to know: > * Linux Security Measurements -- Network > * " " -- Users > * " " -- System/Configuration > * " " -- Public Services (FTP, HTTP, Secure Shell, > Chroot environments [how-to]) > * Virus Scanning and/or Virus secuirty practices > * Server Fail-Over practices (If the main server is attacked and brought > down what type of configuration should the fail-over server have to ensure > that the same attack will not affect it as did the primary server). > > All of the above topics are required to be in full documentation before any > system here is brought online. Once these procedures are approved then the > server can go into "production". At some point I also would like to learn > how to secure the network using Linux's routing features (now incorporated > into the kernel for 2.4?) and best security practices for DNS/Bind ( This > could be a whole meeting in itself). > > Thank You for Your Time! > > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > Robert Meyer > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:59 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: What are we gonna do today, Brain? > > Well, we have a meeting scheduled for this Sunday at 1:00 but we don't have > a > list of things that we want to do...other than get copies of Mandrake to a > buncha folks :-) > > We had mentioned that we wanted to do a session on security. I know that we > have some folks in the group who are involved with security and have > opinions > on what can be done for intrusion prevention and detection. Do we have any > takers on this. It would be good if more than one person responds so that > we > can get some varied opinions on the subject. > > Other than that, anyone have an suggestions about what they'd like to do? > > Cheers! > > Bob > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Have you considered a virtual "UML" box? There are 2 ways to implement it that are Open Source and free. UML is User Mode Linux and works only with Linux and is reportedly a great method for testing new kernels, diferent distributions on one box and as a secure gateway for connected boxes. There was an article on this in one of the Linux magazines I subscribe to (Linux Journal, Linux Magazine, Maximum Linux, Sys Admin, or Enterprise Linux Jourmal) The second way and one I may try my self is with PLEX86 (www.plex86.org). This is the Open Source version of VMware as I understand it. It allows you to run Windows or another distribution of Linux in a Linux Virtual Machine. Similar to Win4Lin and VMware. The security comes from setting up your exposed services in a virtual machine. The would be attacker or snoop can only, if sucessful, mess with the exposed VM and cannot gain access outside that VM. Internally, access to the exposed VM is granted by group and user permissions and mounting the created virtual partition either as a NFS or SMB mount. How everything goes together is something I would like to investigate if and when I find time. Hope this info is something you can use. Bob Stockdale javabob@localnet.com From josephj at adelphia.net Sun May 20 10:12:46 2001 From: josephj at adelphia.net (Joe Pollock) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Phone number? Message-ID: <002401c0e136$f36c0480$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0E115.6A85F2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone have a phone number for Ronald K. Wechter? He offered me a ride = to the meeting today, but I haven't been able to get in touch ith him by = email. Thanks. Joe josephj@adelphia.net 688-2275 ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0E115.6A85F2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Anyone have a phone number for Ronald K. Wechter? He offered = me a=20 ride to the meeting today, but I haven't been able to get in touch ith = him by=20 email.

Thanks. Joe josephj@adelphia.net

688-2275

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0E115.6A85F2A0-- From trek at becon.org Sun May 20 14:46:16 2001 From: trek at becon.org (kyle) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: lilo.conf? In-Reply-To: <006f01c0df9b$ce8c4cc0$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> References: <006f01c0df9b$ce8c4cc0$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20010520.18461600@katz2.katze.local> The default boot is the one listed first in lilo.conf. Just move the windows paragraph: "other = /dev/hdb1....." to just above where you see the first "image = /boot/vmlinuz....." Save the file, run /sbin/lilo, and reboot. That's it. Dean Janik / trek@becon.org Original Message dated 5/18/01, 9:09:43 AM Author: "Joe Pollock" Re: lilo.conf?: Hi. I'm running Red Hat 7.0 on a dual boot system with Windoz 98 se. Can someone post a lilo.conf file that will default boot to Windoz? I've tried several things and they all seem to be ignored. Thanks. Joe From trek at becon.org Sun May 20 15:24:15 2001 From: trek at becon.org (kyle) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Phone number? References: <002401c0e136$f36c0480$767d3018@buf.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20010520.19241500@katz2.katze.local> This is an example of the lilo.conf file before making changes. image = /boot/vmlinuz root = /dev/hda6 label = linux other = /dev/hdb1 label = w98 map-drive = 0x80 to = 0x81 map-drive = 0x81 to = 0x80 table = /dev/hdb Just move the "other = " section above the "image = " section (so it is read first). The default boot is the one listed first. Now save the file, run /sbin/lilo, then reboot for it to take effect. That's it. Dean Janik trek@becon.org From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 21 11:09:03 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Sunday's meeting Message-ID: <20010521150903.88023.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> We held a fairly informal meeting on Sunday. There were about 8 people there at one point. The discussion wandered around the topic of where information can be found. Since only one other machine was brought in, we really didn't set up a network. One question that I was asked was: "What books are good to read to learn Linux/Unix?". I responded with "The design of the Unix Operating System" but I misidentified the author. It's actually Maurice J. Bach. Today, I did a bit of poking around and found a nice writeup on the "Path to Enlightenment". It's written whimsically but there's some very valid information there. Check out: http://www.rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=2377 It's a really good article. We also talked a bit about what we can do at the next meeting. Someone mentioned "LAN party" and we got lots of nodding heads and smiles. Looks like that might be a good idea. How do folks feel about bringing their machines in, hooking up to a hub and starting a "fragfest"? I think it would be a blast (literally?). Cheers! Bob Meyer ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Mon May 21 11:17:52 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Sunday's meeting In-Reply-To: <20010521150903.88023.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have a 5 port Linksys Switch just waiting to be hooked up. A question though for you though. When talking about the slowness of GL apps, you mentioned something that I could do to increase my frame rates. I tried checking out linuxgames.com, but couldn't find anything related to that, but I did find a HOWTO on running Starcraft on Linux using Wine ;) Could you relay that information, of provide some links?? > We also talked a bit about what we can do at the next meeting. Someone > mentioned "LAN party" and we got lots of nodding heads and smiles. Looks like > that might be a good idea. How do folks feel about bringing their machines in, > hooking up to a hub and starting a "fragfest"? I think it would be a blast > (literally?). Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 21 11:55:40 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Sunday's meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010521155540.80825.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> On LinuxGames.com, look for the article on Nvidia drivers. There are a mess of comments (80 at last count) and some of them contain information about the libGL.so issues. The actual discussion is at http://www.linuxgames.com/news/index.php3/4445 later... Bob --- Robert Dege wrote: > > I have a 5 port Linksys Switch just waiting to be hooked up. > > A question though for you though. When talking about the slowness of GL > apps, you mentioned something that I could do to increase my frame rates. > > I tried checking out linuxgames.com, but couldn't find anything related to > that, but I did find a HOWTO on running Starcraft on Linux using Wine ;) > > Could you relay that information, of provide some links?? > > > We also talked a bit about what we can do at the next meeting. Someone > > mentioned "LAN party" and we got lots of nodding heads and smiles. Looks > like > > that might be a good idea. How do folks feel about bringing their machines > in, > > hooking up to a hub and starting a "fragfest"? I think it would be a blast > > (literally?). > > > > Dege > > Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but > they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 21 12:20:42 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Message-ID: <000801c0e211$fbe5b2b0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0E1F0.74D71FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for buisness accounts (home accounts use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today (Kathy) and they stated: "We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and $99/mnth. The upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed to run a server off of the line." I then began to ask what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is $42/mnth in my area) and she stated: "If you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a higher priority than the home customers." Conclusions: Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because they want the money for themselves. Also if you want better customer service then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0E1F0.74D71FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I then = began to ask=20 what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is $42/mnth in my = area) and=20 she stated:

"If=20 you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a = higher=20 priority than the home customers."

Conclusions:<= /DIV>

Ronald K. Wechter
Network Systems=20 Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0E1F0.74D71FF0-- From carlyos at Buffalo.com Mon May 21 13:12:03 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Message-ID: <200105211312.AA28705244@mail.buffalo.com> Problem solved with the server, do what I do. Use a dynamic hosting company :) I use TZO.com. Works pretty good :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ronald K. Wechter" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:20:42 -0400 >During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about >Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for buisness accounts (home accounts >use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today >(Kathy) and they stated: > >"We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and $99/mnth. >The upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home >and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed >to run a server off of the line." > >I then began to ask what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is >$42/mnth in my area) and she stated: > >"If you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a >higher priority than the home customers." > >Conclusions: > >Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because they >want the money for themselves. Also if you want better customer service >then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it >Ronald K. Wechter >Network Systems Administrator >NRD Buffalo Webmaster >Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo >(716) 551-4901 > > > > > From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 21 13:26:03 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:07 2007 Subject: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable In-Reply-To: <200105211312.AA28705244@mail.buffalo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c0e21b$1d5bbe40$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> It is not the static IP address that is the problem. The problem at hand is to "Legitimately" run a web server off of the ONLY broadband available in my area -- Adelphia Cable. No other DSL providers exist in my area... Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Carl Yost Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:12 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Problem solved with the server, do what I do. Use a dynamic hosting company :) I use TZO.com. Works pretty good :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ronald K. Wechter" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:20:42 -0400 >During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about >Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for buisness accounts (home accounts >use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today >(Kathy) and they stated: > >"We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and $99/mnth. >The upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home >and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed >to run a server off of the line." > >I then began to ask what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is >$42/mnth in my area) and she stated: > >"If you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a >higher priority than the home customers." > >Conclusions: > >Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because they >want the money for themselves. Also if you want better customer service >then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it >Ronald K. Wechter >Network Systems Administrator >NRD Buffalo Webmaster >Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo >(716) 551-4901 > > > > > From Wes.Anastasi at itec.mail.suny.edu Mon May 21 13:59:24 2001 From: Wes.Anastasi at itec.mail.suny.edu (Anastasi, Wes) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Message-ID: <0B41ACBECF83734D98ABC83DD8E097E101E9E1@cipher.itec.suny.edu> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E21F.C50F1F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ron, Sorr to hear that. Carl, Have you found a better dynDNS client than jlclient offered at http://www.justlinux.com. Wes -----Original Message----- From: Ronald K. Wechter [mailto:sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:26 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable It is not the static IP address that is the problem. The problem at hand is to "Legitimately" run a web server off of the ONLY broadband available in my area -- Adelphia Cable. No other DSL providers exist in my area... Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Carl Yost Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:12 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Problem solved with the server, do what I do. Use a dynamic hosting company :) I use TZO.com. Works pretty good :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ronald K. Wechter" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:20:42 -0400 >During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about >Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for buisness accounts (home accounts >use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today >(Kathy) and they stated: > >"We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and $99/mnth. >The upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home >and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed >to run a server off of the line." > >I then began to ask what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is >$42/mnth in my area) and she stated: > >"If you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a >higher priority than the home customers." > >Conclusions: > >Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because they >want the money for themselves. Also if you want better customer service >then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it >Ronald K. Wechter >Network Systems Administrator >NRD Buffalo Webmaster >Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo >(716) 551-4901 > > > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E21F.C50F1F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable

Ron,
Sorr to hear that.
Carl,
Have you found a better dynDNS client than jlclient = offered at http://www.justlinux.com.

Wes

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald K. Wechter [mailto:sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.m= il]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:26 PM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: RE: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia = Cable

It is not the static IP address that is the = problem. The problem at hand is
to "Legitimately" run a web server off of = the ONLY broadband available in my
area -- Adelphia Cable.

No other DSL providers exist in my area...

Ron

Problem solved with the server, do what I do. Use a = dynamic hosting company
:) I use TZO.com. Works pretty good :)

---------- Original Message = ----------------------------------
From: "Ronald K. Wechter" = <sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:20:42 -0400

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E21F.C50F1F20-- From mtp22 at cornell.edu Mon May 21 14:33:53 2001 From: mtp22 at cornell.edu (Matt Piotrowski) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Broadband "Solutions" -- Adelphia Cable In-Reply-To: <0B41ACBECF83734D98ABC83DD8E097E101E9E1@cipher.itec.suny.ed u> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010521142231.00b01530@postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu> I'm not sure about other areas, but Adelphia "Powerlink" in my area (Blasdell, Orchard Park) is pathetic; it is by far the most unreliable Internet service I have had. When it works, it is typically very fast, but too often it doesn't work. I wouldn't recommend running a server off of it where the customers expect it to be up 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Matt From carlyos at Buffalo.com Mon May 21 14:39:39 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable Message-ID: <200105211439.AA31130280@mail.buffalo.com> Wes, I use www.tzo.com, it is $60 for a full year. Easy to use, you can use it in any OS, you can have their client run automatic for you. Also you can set the ip address right through the internet right at there site. So if I check my router at home and see the lease ended on the IP and adelphia DHCP gave me a different one I can change it right at here from work. Carl ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Anastasi, Wes" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:59:24 -0400 >Ron, >Sorr to hear that. >Carl, >Have you found a better dynDNS client than jlclient offered at >http://www.justlinux.com. > >Wes > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ronald K. Wechter [mailto:sysad3_buff@cnrc.navy.mil] >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:26 PM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: RE: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable > > >It is not the static IP address that is the problem. The problem at hand is >to "Legitimately" run a web server off of the ONLY broadband available in my >area -- Adelphia Cable. > >No other DSL providers exist in my area... > >Ron > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of >Carl Yost >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:12 PM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: Re: Broadband Solutions -- Adelphia Cable > > > >Problem solved with the server, do what I do. Use a dynamic hosting company >:) I use TZO.com. Works pretty good :) > > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Ronald K. Wechter" >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:20:42 -0400 > >>During yesterday's meeting one of the Adelphia technicians spoke about >>Adelphia providing higher speed uploads for buisness accounts (home >accounts >>use a 128Kbps upload). I spoke with Adelphia's buisness department today >>(Kathy) and they stated: >> >>"We have buisness accounts...It costs $99 for installation and $99/mnth. >>The upload and download is not faster than the home accounts (ie Both home >>and buisness accounts offer the same speeds) but you are still not allowed >>to run a server off of the line." >> >>I then began to ask what does one get for the extra $57/mnth (powerlink is >>$42/mnth in my area) and she stated: >> >>"If you have problems with the line or connection, you are placed in a >>higher priority than the home customers." >> >>Conclusions: >> >>Adelphia does not want anyone to host web pages or run a server because >they >>want the money for themselves. Also if you want better customer service >>then you have to pay $57/mnth more to get it >>Ronald K. Wechter >>Network Systems Administrator >>NRD Buffalo Webmaster >>Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo >>(716) 551-4901 >> >> >> >> >> > > From carlyos at Buffalo.com Mon May 21 14:44:38 2001 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Broadband "Solutions" -- Adelphia Cable Message-ID: <200105211444.AA103154202@mail.buffalo.com> this is very true, my cable is suk. it ran insanely fast the first 2 months (I am almost live right downtown) the it died all together for 2 months. It still only works well for 2 days a week. I know they had to upgrade their network because some people started a law suit against them because of how they advertise it and sell it, yet it sucks and never works. There tech support is terrible also (granted I am sure it is not the techs fault) all they do is have me run trace routes and e-mail it to them. Grrrrrrr I can get any DSL at my house too, but I had 2 DSL lines, 1 from Prime, another through Verizon, cancelled them. So I am stuck until I make enough and put a T1 line in :)~~~~~ ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Matt Piotrowski Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:33:53 -0400 >I'm not sure about other areas, but Adelphia "Powerlink" in my area >(Blasdell, Orchard Park) is pathetic; it is by far the most unreliable >Internet service I have had. When it works, it is typically very fast, but >too often it doesn't work. I wouldn't recommend running a server off of it >where the customers expect it to be up 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. > >Matt > > From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 21 15:59:31 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 Growing Pains Message-ID: <001f01c0e230$8db65be0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0E20F.06A4BBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Everyone boasted about Mandrake 8.0 at the meeting I decided to snatch a copy and try to install it on my laptop. Ive created the boot disk fine and began the installation but once the installer begins it locks the system. Here are the laptop specs: Pentium 233Mhz 128MB RAM Toshiba CD-Rom Drive (20x) Touchpad (unkown brand) This computer was made by Metrobook whihc is now out of buisness. I did try to use the text installer and that even locks up. I read in the Mandrake Readme that this CD is optimized for Pentium ??? systems and will no work on older machines. Could this be the cause? Please help! Thank You, Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0E20F.06A4BBE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Pentium=20 233Mhz

128MB = RAM=20

Toshiba CD-Rom Drive=20 (20x)

Touchpad (unkown=20 brand)

Thank=20 You,

Ronald K. Wechter
Network Systems=20 Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0E20F.06A4BBE0-- From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Mon May 21 16:02:43 2001 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 Growing Pains In-Reply-To: <001f01c0e230$8db65be0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: At what point does it lock up? During the install (if you make it far enough for user interaction), you can hit the Alt-F3 & see what the system is doing. This help solve the problem. -Rob > Everyone boasted about Mandrake 8.0 at the meeting I decided to snatch a > copy and try to install it on my laptop. Ive created the boot disk fine and > began the installation but once the installer begins it locks the system. > Here are the laptop specs: > > Pentium 233Mhz > 128MB RAM > Toshiba CD-Rom Drive (20x) > Touchpad (unkown brand) > > This computer was made by Metrobook whihc is now out of buisness. I did try > to use the text installer and that even locks up. I read in the Mandrake > Readme that this CD is optimized for Pentium ??? systems and will no work on > older machines. Could this be the cause? Please help! > > Thank You, > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 21 16:20:50 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 Growing Pains In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002601c0e233$87c1d310$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Ok -- the only error I recieved was that it could not locate a /usr/local/bin directory. Once this error flashes on the Alt-F3 screen the user interface starts and the system locks on the "Choose Language" dialog. The only other thing I can think of is that the HD is formatted for NTFS (Win2k). This was not a problem with RedHat though. Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Dege Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:03 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Mandrake 8.0 Growing Pains At what point does it lock up? During the install (if you make it far enough for user interaction), you can hit the Alt-F3 & see what the system is doing. This help solve the problem. -Rob > Everyone boasted about Mandrake 8.0 at the meeting I decided to snatch a > copy and try to install it on my laptop. Ive created the boot disk fine and > began the installation but once the installer begins it locks the system. > Here are the laptop specs: > > Pentium 233Mhz > 128MB RAM > Toshiba CD-Rom Drive (20x) > Touchpad (unkown brand) > > This computer was made by Metrobook whihc is now out of buisness. I did try > to use the text installer and that even locks up. I read in the Mandrake > Readme that this CD is optimized for Pentium ??? systems and will no work on > older machines. Could this be the cause? Please help! > > Thank You, > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > Dege Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake. From chrism at fsenablers.com Mon May 21 20:42:23 2001 From: chrism at fsenablers.com (Chris Martin) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Linux Course In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just thought I would let everyone know, as of today (March 21st) the Linux course at UB has been cancelled. Don't have a reason yet, but I can say that I am disappointed. Chris Martin -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Chris Martin Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:32 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: Linux Course I haven't taken it yet, but I will be taking it next semester (fall). I don't know what book they are using yet (usually a pretty good indicator of how the course will go. I really hope its not one of those teach yourself foo in X days/hours/minutes books.) I'm taking primarily for the easy A (and I really hope the prof doesn't happen to be on this list). In any event, I can let you know how the class goes once I start taking it. Chris Martin Lead Developer, FSenablers, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Wayne Melbrod Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:26 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Linux Course As a positive note: I ran across a Linux course being offered this fall at U.B. Has anybody ever taken it? It's good to see Linux getting formal recognition. Usually (non computer science) corses/training at UB tend to be windows centric. Is S. Crowley a local expert/advocate? Your thoughts? - Wayne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (snip: From the online catalog) MFC 213 - LINUX Section MFC Lecture, 3.00 credits Registration #: 118056 Time: W, 19:00 - 21:40 Dates: 08/27/2001 - 12/07/2001 Location: 115 BALDY [view map] Instructor: CROWLEY, S From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue May 22 10:30:59 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Mandrake 8.0 Growing Pains In-Reply-To: <001f01c0e230$8db65be0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20010522143059.94014.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> That's pretty bizarre. Check on the mandrake site in the FAQ and tech sections to see if there's anything there about the lockups. I DO know that Mandrake is only installable on Pentium machines. You cannot install on a '486. Everything in the system is compiled with pentium flags in the compiler, even the kernel. The only other system I've seen with any kind of problem is a weird motherboard with built in Adaptec 9XXX or some such SCSI chip set. I don't know if it was the drive or the controller 'cuz 7.2 didn't work well on it, either. Lots of drive errors. I suspect that the machine needs to have the SCSI bios updated. It would help if you knew who made the motherboard in the laptop. There might be info on the site about that board and whether there is a bug somewhere. Keep us informed and we'll try to help. Cheers! Bob --- "Ronald K. Wechter" wrote: > Everyone boasted about Mandrake 8.0 at the meeting I decided to snatch a > copy and try to install it on my laptop. Ive created the boot disk fine and > began the installation but once the installer begins it locks the system. > Here are the laptop specs: > > Pentium 233Mhz > 128MB RAM > Toshiba CD-Rom Drive (20x) > Touchpad (unkown brand) > > This computer was made by Metrobook whihc is now out of buisness. I did try > to use the text installer and that even locks up. I read in the Mandrake > Readme that this CD is optimized for Pentium ??? systems and will no work on > older machines. Could this be the cause? Please help! > > Thank You, > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From hubbardr at adelphia.net Wed May 23 21:40:39 2001 From: hubbardr at adelphia.net (Richard Hubbard) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: IBM and linux In-Reply-To: <20010522143059.94014.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I guess IBM wasn't kidding when they said they were spending billions on linux. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20010522/tc/ibm_to_let_linux_fans_use_mainfr ame--for_free_1.html http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/ Richard Hubbard Training Manager, New Horizons Buffalo MCT, MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD,CLP, CLI, A+, Net+ I-Net+, LCP, LCI office : 716-681-8500 office fight inflation, repeal boyle's law... From bradbartram at wycol.net Thu May 24 21:18:19 2001 From: bradbartram at wycol.net (Bradley J. Bartram) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition Message-ID: <004001c0e4b8$95ce1400$0114a8c0@localhost.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C0E497.0E03D260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, Does anybody on the list know what the maximum number of files that can = be on a single ext2 partition is? I have a web server that gets a strange error. I have a smallish (8GB) = hd divided into 3 partitions (/, /boot, /usr). The apache root is on = "/" under "/home/httpd/html". Under html, I have several directories = and one directory containing about 1600 subdirectories. Each Sub = directory has 2 sub directories and about 90 files per directory. All = in all there are about 288000 files in this directory. About 3200 new = files are created everyday. At some point, and I'm not quite sure when, this server reports "no room = left on disk". Running "df" shows plenty of free space on all = partitions so I'm lead to believe that I'm pushing the limits of the = filesystem. What do you think? Unfortunately, this server was pressed into duty and is obviously not = configured for optimal efficiency. Not to mention, the method of file = delivery that generates these static files could and is being improved. = I would just like to know so I can plan on filling up the filesystem or = whatever and also so I know the next time. Thanks. Brad ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C0E497.0E03D260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello everyone,

Does anybody on the list know what the = maximum=20 number of files that can be on a single ext2 partition is?

Thanks.

Brad

------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C0E497.0E03D260-- From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 25 10:15:11 2001 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition In-Reply-To: <004001c0e4b8$95ce1400$0114a8c0@localhost.com> Message-ID: <20010525141511.23954.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> well, if you run 'df -i' it will give you the current stats on inodes (one inode to a file). If you get a 0 free message, then you're out of them :-) When you build a file system, you can tune the parameters, depending on what you're trying to do with the file system. There are default numbers based on size of the partition that it will use. Check the man page for 'mke2fs'. My recommendation would be to back up the data, unmount the file system, run 'mke2fs' with either the '-i' bytes per inode flag or a '-N' to set the actual, rather than a ratio. The man page says that it's not good practice to make the ratio less than one inode per disk block because you will be wasting inode table space. If you're making zero length files, obviously, this rule may not apply. Hope this helps... Cheers! Bob --- "Bradley J. Bartram" wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Does anybody on the list know what the maximum number of files that can be on > a single ext2 partition is? > > I have a web server that gets a strange error. I have a smallish (8GB) hd > divided into 3 partitions (/, /boot, /usr). The apache root is on "/" under > "/home/httpd/html". Under html, I have several directories and one directory > containing about 1600 subdirectories. Each Sub directory has 2 sub > directories and about 90 files per directory. All in all there are about > 288000 files in this directory. About 3200 new files are created everyday. > > At some point, and I'm not quite sure when, this server reports "no room left > on disk". Running "df" shows plenty of free space on all partitions so I'm > lead to believe that I'm pushing the limits of the filesystem. What do you > think? > > Unfortunately, this server was pressed into duty and is obviously not > configured for optimal efficiency. Not to mention, the method of file > delivery that generates these static files could and is being improved. I > would just like to know so I can plan on filling up the filesystem or > whatever and also so I know the next time. > > Thanks. > > Brad > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From trek at becon.org Sat May 26 23:56:53 2001 From: trek at becon.org (kyle) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition In-Reply-To: <004001c0e4b8$95ce1400$0114a8c0@localhost.com> References: <004001c0e4b8$95ce1400$0114a8c0@localhost.com> Message-ID: <20010527.3565300@katz2.katze.local> --------------=_4D4801678E1808BAFBC8 Content-Description: filename="text1.txt" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just guessing, but could you have used up all available inodes? trek@becon.org Original Message dated 5/24/01, 9:18:19 PM Author: "Bradley J. Bartram" Re: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition: Hello everyone, =20 Does anybody on the list know what the maximum number of files that can = be on a single ext2 partition is? =20 I have a web server that gets a strange error. I have a smallish (8GB) = hd divided into 3 partitions (/, /boot, /usr). The apache root is on "/= "=20 under "/home/httpd/html". Under html, I have several directories and on= e=20 directory containing about 1600 subdirectories. Each Sub directory has = 2=20 sub directories and about 90 files per directory. All in all there are = about 288000 files in this directory. About 3200 new files are created = everyday. =20 At some point, and I'm not quite sure when, this server reports "no room= =20 left on disk". Running "df" shows plenty of free space on all partition= s=20 so I'm lead to believe that I'm pushing the limits of the filesystem. =20 What do you think? =20 Unfortunately, this server was pressed into duty and is obviously not=20 configured for optimal efficiency. Not to mention, the method of file=20 delivery that generates these static files could and is being improved. = =20 I would just like to know so I can plan on filling up the filesystem or = whatever and also so I know the next time. =20 Thanks. =20 Brad --------------=_4D4801678E1808BAFBC8 Content-Description: filename="text1.html" Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition

Just guessing, but could you have used up all available inodes?

trek@becon.org

Original Message dated 5/24/01, 9:18:19 PM

Author: "Bradley J. Bartram" <bradbartram@wycol.net>

Re: Maximum number of Files for an EXT2 partition:

Hell= o everyone,

Does= anybody on the list know what the maximum number of files that can be on a single ext2 partition is?

Than= ks.

Brad=

--------------=_4D4801678E1808BAFBC8-- From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Tue May 29 11:39:05 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Standard Server Rack Utility Shelf Message-ID: <000d01c0e855$7eeb06d0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E833.F7D966D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am in DIRE need of a standard utility shelf for a Compaq Rack. Does anyone know where I can get one in buffalo? Ronald K. Wechter Network Systems Administrator NRD Buffalo Webmaster Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo (716) 551-4901 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E833.F7D966D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am = in DIRE need of=20 a standard utility shelf for a Compaq Rack. Does anyone know where = I can=20 get one in buffalo?

Ronald K. Wechter
Network Systems=20 Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E833.F7D966D0-- From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Tue May 29 12:06:42 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Standard Server Rack Utility Shelf References: <000d01c0e855$7eeb06d0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <3B13C912.2A31B67C@phor.com> you might want to try graybar electric at 180 perry st downtown. they have all kinds of racks and stuff. > "Ronald K. Wechter" wrote: > > I am in DIRE need of a standard utility shelf for a Compaq Rack. Does > anyone know where I can get one in buffalo? > > Ronald K. Wechter > Network Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Tue May 29 12:39:14 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: new lug server box Message-ID: <3B13D0B2.C8226A86@phor.com> hello, a few months ago i put out a request asking for old parts to put together a "new" lug server. i've collected about 90% of the parts that we'll need to put this machine together. what i'm still trying to get is a case, if anyone has a atx style case that they can donate please get back to me. so far this is what i've gathered up. what we have: ------------- mainboard w/ P233 32mb ram 8gb maxtor hard drive 3com nic video card (really old but it works) needed items: ------------- atx case wish list items: ---------------- scsi controller (i might have this buried @ home) external disk tower more disk more disk more disk i'd like to get as much disk as possible. i don't plan to put a cdrom in the system, this way we can stuff up to 4 IDE drives in the box. the reason for all the disk you may be asking is for ftp storage. i'd like to get an ftp server setup, have an uploads area for lug members or who ever, mirror some of the cool projects out there and so forth. i do have more ram for the box but i haven't tested it yet, the additional ram should put it up to 64mb if i'm not mistaken. -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil Tue May 29 12:53:31 2001 From: sysad3_buff at cnrc.navy.mil (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: new lug server box In-Reply-To: <3B13D0B2.C8226A86@phor.com> Message-ID: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> I happen to have one in my closet taking up space. Give me a buz and lets make arrangesments (Enlight ATX Case - NO power supply but I can pick one up if needed) -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Darin Perusich Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:39 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: new lug server box hello, a few months ago i put out a request asking for old parts to put together a "new" lug server. i've collected about 90% of the parts that we'll need to put this machine together. what i'm still trying to get is a case, if anyone has a atx style case that they can donate please get back to me. so far this is what i've gathered up. what we have: ------------- mainboard w/ P233 32mb ram 8gb maxtor hard drive 3com nic video card (really old but it works) needed items: ------------- atx case wish list items: ---------------- scsi controller (i might have this buried @ home) external disk tower more disk more disk more disk i'd like to get as much disk as possible. i don't plan to put a cdrom in the system, this way we can stuff up to 4 IDE drives in the box. the reason for all the disk you may be asking is for ftp storage. i'd like to get an ftp server setup, have an uploads area for lug members or who ever, mirror some of the cool projects out there and so forth. i do have more ram for the box but i haven't tested it yet, the additional ram should put it up to 64mb if i'm not mistaken. -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From kumiorava at crosswinds.net Tue May 29 18:10:16 2001 From: kumiorava at crosswinds.net (Lasse Saarinen) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: new lug server box In-Reply-To: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> References: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <01052918104500.16690@korvetti.local> If you need a power supply, I've still got one in my old case. Other than that, I've completely razed the box of all useful parts (including indicator leds, buttons, and the speaker) so it's no longer useable. I've also got a 64mb pc100 dimm that I don't need, so if the motherboard can make use of it you're welcome to have that too. - Lasse Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > I happen to have one in my closet taking up space. Give me a buz and lets > make arrangesments (Enlight ATX Case - NO power supply but I can pick one up > if needed) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > Darin Perusich > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:39 PM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: new lug server box > > > hello, > > a few months ago i put out a request asking for old parts to put > together a "new" lug server. i've collected about 90% of the parts that > we'll need to put this machine together. what i'm still trying to get is > a case, if anyone has a atx style case that they can donate please get > back to me. so far this is what i've gathered up. > > what we have: > ------------- > mainboard w/ P233 > 32mb ram > 8gb maxtor hard drive > 3com nic > video card (really old but it works) > > needed items: > ------------- > atx case > > wish list items: > ---------------- > > scsi controller (i might have this buried @ home) > external disk tower > more disk > more disk > more disk > > > i'd like to get as much disk as possible. i don't plan to put a cdrom in > the system, this way we can stuff up to 4 IDE drives in the box. the > reason for all the disk you may be asking is for ftp storage. i'd like > to get an ftp server setup, have an uploads area for lug members or who > ever, mirror some of the cool projects out there and so forth. i do > have more ram for the box but i haven't tested it yet, the additional > ram should put it up to 64mb if i'm not mistaken. > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com From kumiorava at crosswinds.net Tue May 29 18:36:11 2001 From: kumiorava at crosswinds.net (Lasse Saarinen) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: new lug server box In-Reply-To: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> References: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <01052918472500.17357@korvetti.local> Oh and I also have an unused P2 400 processor with no fan. Would the motherboard you have be able to take it? It just needs cooling from somewhere. - Lasse Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > I happen to have one in my closet taking up space. Give me a buz and lets > make arrangesments (Enlight ATX Case - NO power supply but I can pick one up > if needed) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > Darin Perusich > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:39 PM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: new lug server box > > > hello, > > a few months ago i put out a request asking for old parts to put > together a "new" lug server. i've collected about 90% of the parts that > we'll need to put this machine together. what i'm still trying to get is > a case, if anyone has a atx style case that they can donate please get > back to me. so far this is what i've gathered up. > > what we have: > ------------- > mainboard w/ P233 > 32mb ram > 8gb maxtor hard drive > 3com nic > video card (really old but it works) > > needed items: > ------------- > atx case > > wish list items: > ---------------- > > scsi controller (i might have this buried @ home) > external disk tower > more disk > more disk > more disk > > > i'd like to get as much disk as possible. i don't plan to put a cdrom in > the system, this way we can stuff up to 4 IDE drives in the box. the > reason for all the disk you may be asking is for ftp storage. i'd like > to get an ftp server setup, have an uploads area for lug members or who > ever, mirror some of the cool projects out there and so forth. i do > have more ram for the box but i haven't tested it yet, the additional > ram should put it up to 64mb if i'm not mistaken. > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Wed May 30 08:16:25 2001 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: new lug server box References: <001401c0e85f$e4cd70a0$d8978d8a@cnrc.navy.mil> <01052918472500.17357@korvetti.local> Message-ID: <3B14E499.5BA18BED@phor.com> i'll have to check the chipset of the board to see if it will handle a 400mhz chip, cooling for the chip shouldn't be a problem. the board is pre pc100 but it should just step the memory down to the speed of the slowest ram in the box. again i'll have to read the manual. darin Lasse Saarinen wrote: > > Oh and I also have an unused P2 400 processor with no fan. Would the > motherboard you have be able to take it? It just needs cooling from somewhere. > > - Lasse > > Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > > I happen to have one in my closet taking up space. Give me a buz and lets > > make arrangesments (Enlight ATX Case - NO power supply but I can pick one up > > if needed) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > > Darin Perusich > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:39 PM > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Subject: new lug server box > > > > > > hello, > > > > a few months ago i put out a request asking for old parts to put > > together a "new" lug server. i've collected about 90% of the parts that > > we'll need to put this machine together. what i'm still trying to get is > > a case, if anyone has a atx style case that they can donate please get > > back to me. so far this is what i've gathered up. > > > > what we have: > > ------------- > > mainboard w/ P233 > > 32mb ram > > 8gb maxtor hard drive > > 3com nic > > video card (really old but it works) > > > > needed items: > > ------------- > > atx case > > > > wish list items: > > ---------------- > > > > scsi controller (i might have this buried @ home) > > external disk tower > > more disk > > more disk > > more disk > > > > > > i'd like to get as much disk as possible. i don't plan to put a cdrom in > > the system, this way we can stuff up to 4 IDE drives in the box. the > > reason for all the disk you may be asking is for ftp storage. i'd like > > to get an ftp server setup, have an uploads area for lug members or who > > ever, mirror some of the cool projects out there and so forth. i do > > have more ram for the box but i haven't tested it yet, the additional > > ram should put it up to 64mb if i'm not mistaken. > > > > -- > > Darin Perusich > > Unix Administrator > > Cognigen Corp. > > darinper@cognigencorp.com -- Darin Perusich Unix Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From gregneumann at netscape.net Wed May 30 10:39:25 2001 From: gregneumann at netscape.net (Gregory J. Neumann) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:08 2007 Subject: Software RAID weirdness question Message-ID: <7FF4859A.3E5B1BB3.4C2EDDBB@netscape.net> First real post here. Hope you don't mind a question: :-) I am trying to implement software RAID 1 on my Slackware 7.1 box w/ dual 9.1 gig ultra-SCSI drives, 2.2.19 kernel, RAID 1 support compiled in and the latest available raidtools 0.90 pkg. AFAICT, there is no patch for RAID for the 2.2.19 kernel. At one point I managed to get a raid set up "accepted" as a RAID 0, but I wanted to change it to RAID 1. In keeping w/ the HOWTO, I originally set the raid partitions w/ the permanent super-block. Now the kernel registers the personality, but every time I try to "raidstart", I get "invalid argument: /dev/md0". "mkraid" aborts on "seems to be part of an active raid", even w/ the "really-force" option. However, "/proc/mdstat" lists all raids as inactive. "/syslog" doesn't have any references, same w/ "/messages". "dmesg" just shows a successful RAID 1 personality registration at startup. I can delete the partitions w/ fdisk, bring them back as regular 83 partitions, mke2fs them and write data. Then delete and set them up as RAID again, and the same things happen. I have even deleted the /dev/md* and reinstalled the raidtools. Same thing. Even changing the partition sizes doesn't work. The HOWTO and all online docs I can find are very out of date. None of the docs or articles I find even hint on what I should do. Whew! I guess that's about as persistent as a super-block can be! This really mystifies me! Any ideas at all? Best regards, Greg -- Gregory J. 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I have glibc-2.2-12 and glibc-devel-2.2-12 I have jre118 and jdk118_v1 Does anyone know how to properly configure StarOffice52 user files 'sofficerc' and 'javarc' with the correct paths, arguments, etc? Any help would be greatly appreciated. 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