I know tons of people in the field security and otherwise and they state that certs mean nothing except to employers that want to get to a certain grade with the manufacturer they are good for getting your foot in the door and that's about it,
<br><br>since all the certificates mean that someone can spew information out from a book. maybe not CCNA and some of the higher ones but the lower ones<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/8/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Richard Hubbard</b> <<a href="mailto:hubbardr@adelphia.net">hubbardr@adelphia.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
In defense of certifications (although the 'licensing' idea is probably<br>better) I knew one guy who though certifications were useless. After<br>all, he had years of experience and thus, knew everything. I asked him
<br>about several network situations, and how he would set up the network in<br>the different environments. The answer was the exact same network in<br>each case. Basically because that is all he knew.<br><br>The better certs try to expose the tech to different situations, and
<br>show how that vendor's product can be used to deal with a variety of<br>different situations. It doesn't guarantee he/she is an expert, but at<br>least they have been exposed to the difference between a 10 person shop,
<br>and a 10,000 user enterprise, and some of the issues in each.<br><br>Having said that, if the dude was a plumber 2 weeks ago, last week he<br>went to a boot camp, and now he's certified, I probably would give him<br>
an interview, but I wouldn't expect much.<br><br>Michael Richardson wrote:<br>> NFLUGers,<br>><br>> I concur with Mark and his colleague.<br>><br>> When we used to hire for a mom-n-pop PC repair company, we used to see a lot of
<br>> cram-and-exam candidates come in who knew jack about hardware. Another department head<br>> here admitted to me at one time that he didn't even pay attention to certifications listed<br>> on a resume - he was more concerned with the candidate's actual ability than how they did
<br>> on a test.<br>><br>> I've mulled over several certification tracks (MCSE, Solaris, MySQL, LPI) over the years<br>> and have yet to even begin one. Not necessarily because I didn't have the time or could
<br>> not complete the track, but because I felt it would not adequately separate me from<br>> "everyone and their grandma" who took the exam.<br>><br>> There's a fine balance between keeping these exams cheap (and therefore accessible to the
<br>> masses) and expensive enough to ensure candidates are serious in pursuing the material and<br>> properly demonstrating actual knowledge.<br>><br>> Just my $0.025...<br>><br>> Mike<br>><br>><br>
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