<p>Just realized this Web client has a Reply and a Reply to List options, so
here is a resend of my previous message to JJ.</p><p><a
href="http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tutorial.en.html">http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tutorial.en.html</a></p><p>I'd
be glad to share my configuration files and suggestions on
usability.</p><p>Frank</p><p>Quoting JJ Neff <jjneff@yahoo.com>:<br /><br
/>> Sounds like you may have stumbled on a topic that could actually take a
few<br />> meetings to teach. Many folks probably use Gnome or KDE or even
other<br />> graphical file manipulators but are unaware of the power of
MC. I for one<br />> realize it's there but end up always getting
frustrated by not <br />> knowing what to<br />> do. I like the split
window and like many CLI toosl know there is more I can<br />> do but don't
take the time to learn it.<br />><br />> Now being shown that's another
matter. The next time people are <br />> clamering for<br />> a topic
for a meeting, "How to get more for less by using MC" or " MC
<br />> and you -<br />> become a super User..." Ok you get the
point :-)<br />><br />> Anyway just wondering if there are any online
tutorials (debian centric great<br />> any others OK) on MC that can get me
started learning if it the right <br />> tool for<br />> me...<br />>
(I still work in console on a few machines - very few...)<br />><br />>
JJ<br />><br />> --- pirrone <pirrone@localnet.com> wrote:<br
/>><br />>> If you do JJ, please post your impressions. I'd be
interested in how a<br />>> user of your experience perceives the
efficiency of this approach to<br />>> file management etc. over the
dominant graphical applications.<br />>><br />>> I've got MC all
tricked out with just the way I want files of .ext type<br />>> handled.
Virtually all documents - text, office suite, multimedia,<br />>>
executable, whatever are all configured through ~/.mc/mc.ext to open on<br
/>>> a press of Enter with just the application, in some cases
full-featured<br />>> and in others lightweight, that I prefer.<br
/>>><br />>> For example, I might prefer doing my serious word
processing in OO.o<br />>> Writer but would rather have a .doc file or an
.rtf open from MC with<br />>> AbiWord since it launches so quickly and
renders well in the latest<br />>> versions.<br />>><br />>>
Finally, on the ultra-clean "desktop" of the equally
ultra-efficient<br />>> window manager Fluxbox, I've got MC set to run in
a modeless Eterm<br />>> window - no border, no title, no menu, no scroll
bar - set to<br />>> transparency, which along with MC set to
transparency as well has in its<br />>> file display mode all directories
and all files floating in MC's frames<br />>> transparent against my
subtle blue background, and in its shell mode<br />>> showing nothing but
the command prompt eerily floating below the top of<br />>> an empty
screen. Do a CLI action and watch the stdout fill the screen!<br />>><br
/>>> Key section of ~/.mc/mc.ini for this transparency:<br />>><br
/>>> [Colors]<br />>><br />>
base_color=normal=white,default:directory=white,default:marked=yellow,default:selected=gray,white:ex<br
/>>><br />>
ecutable=brightgreen,default:link=lightgray,default:stalelink=brightred,default:special=brightblue,d<br
/>>> efault:device=magenta,default:editnormal=white,default<br
/>>><br />>> Eterm configuration from ~/.fluxbox/menu and keys
where Alt-f pops it<br />>> right up:<br />>><br />>> Mod1 f
:ExecCommand Eterm --trans --borderless --scrollbar off<br />>>
--buttonbar off --geometry 100x44+18<br />>> 5+65 --font 10x20
--foreground-color white -e mc >/dev/null 2>&1<br />>><br
/>>> Example of accessing OGG files from ~/.mc/mc.ext:<br />>><br
/>>> ### Sound files ###<br />>> regex/\.([oO][gG][gG])$<br
/>>> Open=if [ "$DISPLAY" = "" ]; then ogg123
%f; else (xmms %f &); fi<br />>> View=%view{ascii} ogginfo
%s<br />>><br />>> Sorry to ramble, and rhapsodize, but let me tip
my hand in closing if I<br />>> haven't already - I can scream with this
application - tagging, moving,<br />>> copying, renaming, editing ASCII
and HEX, shelling out to try something,<br />>> all the features of its
Virtual File System - you name it. My<br />>> productivity is absolutely
optimized here. Now I haven't spent much<br />>> time trying to get
Nautilus or Konqueror doing any of the above, and do<br />>> indeed have
strong opinions on the value of "desktops" cluttered with<br
/>>> "icons" and working solely in graphical applications that
force you to<br />>> do it their way, but languished long enough in
Windows Explorer to have<br />>> erected a little shrine in the corner of
my room to MC.<br />>><br />>> Frank<br />>><br />>> JJ
Neff wrote:<br />>><br />>> >Now to actually try to learn to use
MC (been promising I would for Oh so<br />>> >long...)<br />>>
><br />>> >JJN<br />>> ><br />>> >--- pirrone
<pirrone@localnet.com> wrote:<br />>> ><br />>> ><br
/>>> ><br />>> >>Cyber Source wrote:<br />>>
>><br />>> >><br />>> >><br />>>
>>>vlok stone wrote:<br />>> >>><br />>>
>>><br />>> >>><br />>> >>>>I came
across this while browsing. Do you know that in KDE you can<br />>>
>>>>use konqueror to<br />>> >>>>access your
remote file via ssh. In KDE there's a<br />>> >>>>protocol
called fish will actually makes the remote<br />>> >>>>file
available like a local file.<br />>> >>>><br />>>
>>>>Jut as simple as: <a
href="/horde/services/go.php?url=fish%3A%2F%2Fremote.host"
target="_blank">fish://remote.host</a><br />>> >>>>I tried it
and it works great. Anyone ever use this?<br />>> >>>>Seems
like a well hidden gem.<br />>> >>>><br />>>
>>>><br />>> >>>><br />>>
>>>That's pretty cool! Incidentally, konqueror works just fine in
Gnome<br />>> >>>too...... ;) I will poke around to see if
Firefox has something similar<br />>> >>><br />>>
>>><br />>> >>><br />>> >>Also works as
FISH component of Midnight Commander's Virtual file system:<br />>>
>><br />>> >>cd /#sh:user@remote.host.com<br />>>
>><br />>> >>and you'll be prompted for user's password.
This leaves you with all<br />>> >>the MC capabilities - file
transfer, editing, shell commands, tagging<br />>> >>and multiple
file operations. Anyone used to this app and its inherent<br />>>
>>efficiencies should give this a look if you haven't already.<br
/>>> >><br />>> >>Frank<br />>>
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