<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">I have a linksys router and had to use the dsl modem as a bridge so that I could network all my systems. This has to be done becuase the nat for the dsl modem shares the same network as the linksys router. I can't seem to find the link I used to set this up but I had to change the router to PPOE and set the dsl modem to be used as a bridge. I will try to dig the link up for the destructions and post it when I do.<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Cyber Source <peter@thecybersource.com><br>To: nflug@nflug.org<br>Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:28:20 PM<br>Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl<br><br><div>Kyle Obear wrote:<br>> One other
gotcha with Verizon DSL is that their DNS servers are terribly slow. When I switched from Cable modem to DSL, I saw a HUGE drop in speed. I was eventually able to correlate it to their DNS servers taking up to 20 seconds to respond to a DNS query.<br>><br>> To fix this, I installed bind, and I use it as a resolving/caching DNS server. In my setup, my linux box that is connected to the DSL line is a dedicated Firewall machine, with another server inside my network running squidd and bind. Now my DSL is faster than my Cable Modem ever was.<br>><br>> Also, since the LAN interface on their router is on a 192.167.x.x network, and my internal network is a 10.x.x.x network, I use the 192.168.x.x network as a <br>> "poor man's" DMZ. On the Verizon router, I have port forwarding setup for 80 and 443 to a server in the DMZ, while other traffic (Vonage, etc) get's forwarded to my Linux firewall and handled by
IPTABLES.<br>><br>> HTH,<br>> Kyle<br>><br>> <br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: justin.bennett@dynabrade.com<br>>> Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:39:07 -0500<br>>> To: nflug@nflug.org<br>>> Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl<br>>><br>>> Like Adelphia / Road Runner you will have a DSL modem that connects to<br>>> the phone line, then to your PC on the LAN side. Verizon actually got<br>>> smart, and every modem I've seen them use are actually NAT firewalls as<br>>> well, your PC does not get the internet IP, but rather a 192.168.1.x (or<br>>> other internal only) address. This means you actually manager their<br>>> modem if you want to forward port to internal IPs. They used to block<br>>> port 25 incoming for mail, but I remember working around it by putting a<br>>> port on the MX record for the domain I was using. I think 80 was blocked<br>>>
but I used 443 also.<br>>><br>>> Since the modem is a NAT firewall you don't really need to use the<br>>> router, I've actually had some greif running a netgear NAT router in<br>>> conjunction with the Westell NAT DSL modem, some packet dropping issues,<br>>> this all went away when I yanked the router and just put in a wireless<br>>> access point.<br>>><br>>><br>>> For installation:<br>>> The DSL modem will plug into any avaliable phone jack you may have. So<br>>> if you have a phone jack where you want to put the modem then your fine.<br>>> From there you can run ethernet (or do wireless to your PCs). The big<br>>> pain is that on any other phones (or other phone type device, tivos,<br>>> modems, faxes, ext) you need to put a DSL filter to filter out the DSL<br>>> signal. You obviously don't put this filter on the phone jack you pluged<br>>> the DSL modem
into.<br>>><br>>> Justin<br>>><br>>><br>>> Justin Bennett<br>>> Network Administrator<br>>> Dynabrade Inc.<br>>> Clarence, NY<br>>> 716-631-0100<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> anthonyriga wrote:<br>>> <br>>>> Where do you connect the modem too? DO i need to<br>>>> provide my own wires? I ordered the online do it your<br>>>> self. I wanna put the modem in my basement in my<br>>>> computer room what wires do I need to run? And from<br>>>> where? Any suggestions?<br>>>> --- David Mangani <buckettruckdave@gmail.com> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>>> Hmmm,<br>>>>><br>>>>> Sorry I sent that last message by mistake. Anyways,<br>>>>> I switched to<br>>>>> Verizon DSL a few months ago. It seems to
work fine.<br>>>>> It is slightly<br>>>>> slower than cable, however,not alot of difference. I<br>>>>> did use a windows<br>>>>> PC to initially set up my account. Basically it was<br>>>>> just easier. Now<br>>>>> that the account is set up, I have used FC6, ubuntu<br>>>>> and now Debian on<br>>>>> it all without any trouble. It seems that to<br>>>>> initially set up and<br>>>>> activate the account windows is easier. Not sure if<br>>>>> it could be done<br>>>>> from the get go with Linux. I don't know if the<br>>>>> various ports are<br>>>>> available for use or not. I can only say that I<br>>>>> simply plug in my DSL<br>>>>> modem let the lights wink on and connect the<br>>>>> ethernet cable and it<br>>>>> simply works. No real complaints
here.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Dave<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> On 12/22/06, David Mangani<br>>>>> <buckettruckdave@gmail.com> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>> Hello,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> On 12/22/06, anthonyriga <torrodimerda@yahoo.com><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> <br>>>>> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> I have moved into the city and had RoadRunner<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>>
before.<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> I am thinking of DSL. Are there any hitches in<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>> setting<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> up with Linux? I looked over some of old threads<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>> we<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> had to get some advice and I guess you need<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>> WIndows
or<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> MAc to set it up with software. Thats odd if you<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>> are<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> hooking up a router to it which Im going to do.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>> Do<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> they have port 80 open for web services? I know<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>>
RR<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> dosent. I use 443 for web and also DDNS and<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>> sendmail<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> too. Any suggestions ? Storys? Advice? Should I<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>> just<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> still use RR?<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>
Thanks!<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>> __________________________________________________<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> Do You Yahoo!?<br>>>>>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> <br>>>>> protection around<br>>>>><br>>>>> <br>>>>>>> <a target="_blank" href="http://mail.yahoo.com">http://mail.yahoo.com</a><br>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>>>> nflug mailing
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href="http://www.nflug.org/mailman/listinfo/nflug">http://www.nflug.org/mailman/listinfo/nflug</a><br>>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> nflug mailing list<br>> nflug@nflug.org<br>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.nflug.org/mailman/listinfo/nflug">http://www.nflug.org/mailman/listinfo/nflug</a><br>><br>> <br>I will second the dns notion! Verizon's dsl dns servers are really bad.<br>One other thing I can't stand about dsl, actually adsl, is there dhcp!<br>It is ridiculous, I've seen the IP's change by the hour! Actually been<br>bumped offline while ssh'd into some boxes because the freakin IP<br>changed. I never looked into it too much but they must have their dhcp<br>servers set to expire on the hour. If it wasnt for the bad dns servers<br>and the hyper dhcp settings, dsl is great, the service itself is<br>extremely reliable and
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