There is no right way to do it, just get it working. <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/9/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Mark Musone</b> <<a href="mailto:mmusone@shatterit.com">mmusone@shatterit.com</a>> wrote:
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Release notes good. (although you'd think they'd have it right up there nice<br>and big when you go to choose what version..but whatever)
<br><br>I read those dpkg-reconfigure. It's not "uhh..what does dpkg-reconfigure do"<br>that's the easy part, it's what does it do and what files are looked at for<br>the reconfiguration. i.e. when you do a dpkg-reconfigure for the kernel,
<br>exactly what is done and what files are looked at. Whats the point of having<br>an easy way to reconfigure something when you don't know how to specify the<br>configuration.<br><br>Removing usplash doesn't make nvidiafb load up. I'm not saying this to be
<br>challenging, but more because I'm seriously interested in the "right" way to<br>do it. So if anybody can go ahead and try and make it so that nvidiafb gets<br>loaded upon bootup, and not vesafb I'd be very interested.
<br><br>-Mark<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:nflug-bounces@nflug.org">nflug-bounces@nflug.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nflug-bounces@nflug.org">nflug-bounces@nflug.org</a>] On Behalf Of
<br>Jesse Jarzynka<br>Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:50 AM<br>To: <a href="mailto:nflug@nflug.org">nflug@nflug.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [nflug] Mame Distribution<br><br>Mark Musone wrote:<br>> 1. simply figuring out what version to user: ubuntu server or
<br>workstation...hrmm.wheres the list of software or a comparison of<br>features...<br>If you read the release notes for any of the versions at<br><a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/">http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/
</a> :<br><br>*Desktop*<br><br>A standard desktop box, including a full desktop environment, sound,<br>office suite, email clients, etc. You'll need about 3 gigabytes of hard<br>drive space.<br><br>*Server*<br><br>This is a small server profile, which provides a common base for all
<br>sorts of server applications. It's minimal and designed to have the<br>desired services added on top, such as file/print services, web hosting,<br>email hosting, etc. For these services at least 500MB of disk space will
<br>suffice, but consider adding more space depending on the services you'd<br>like to host with your server.<br><br>> after installing server, thinking oh, well server should have<br>_everything_. i install 'server'. reboot. Grub error 18. you've got to be
<br>kidding me. my new 300G drive. you've got to be kidding me, no /boot or even<br>the kernel file at the beginnign of the disk?? how linux 101 is that? so<br>after reinstalling 2 more times to get a /boot working correctly, I smile in
<br>blissful agony when the kernel starts booting up.<br>><br>> I sat there wondering why after the install and reboot i was sitting at a<br>command line login prompt.<br>> Hrm..thats strange. Oh well, no biggie i'll login and start X. startx.
<br>xinit. X. WTF it didn't even install X ????????????<br>> bah. musta been a bad install on my part. let me try to find X<br>somewhere..must not be in my path, sudo tcsh. tcsh sudo tcsh.WTF no tcsh!!!<br>no gawk?! wtf is even on this install, 2 programs!!
<br>> So after 4 additional installs thinking _something_ must be wrong because<br>even command line programs nowadays require X libraries, and after spending<br>2 hours trying to see what the difference is between "server" and
<br>"workstation", I give up and start installing workstation. Yay! finally. I<br>got my /boot _and_ an X server, who woulda thunk it!!<br>><br>><br>> 1. getting wireless to work (zd1211ib) ...typical kernel recompile. this
<br>was actually the easiest thing after 8 bazillion lines of non-intuitive and<br>non documented steps:<br>><br>> take a look at: <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto</a>
<br>> you've got to be kidding me..for compiling a simple kernel??? I'm suprised<br>I also don't have to give up my first born son.<br>><br>> 2. _removing_ gdm. In the end, i'm running framebuffer and cannot be in X.
<br>hah! good luck. I turn off "gdm" in the Administration->Services tab. Seems<br>simple enough. I turn off that service and X immediately dies. "Oh kool. it<br>worked!!! I'm not in X!" Reboot-----> gdm and X starts. I give up and chmod
<br>-x the gdm file in /etc/init.d. now i get lovely complaints on bootup, but<br>no X yay!!! :)<br>><br>Why didn't you just REMOVE gdm??? Or try installing BUM or sysv-rc-conf<br>and configure the services a little better. Why is it Ubuntu's fault you
<br>don't know how to stop services in debian based distros? Take your time,<br>and ask questions instead of freaking out when things don't work. That's<br>what ubuntuforums are for.<br>> 3. removing vesafb from loading and instead loading up nvifiafb upon
<br>bootup. Hah! good luck! it's compiled right into initrd image. ubuntu has to<br>have it's kool splashscreen. add nosplash to grub and it won;t load any<br>framebuffer. After spending about 5 hours trackign this down, becuase my
<br>hommade initrd versions werent working either, finally found the magic files<br>(/etc/modules.d/modules-blacklist, /lib/modules/initrd...and a half dozen<br>other files), found the incantation of dpkg-reconfig linux-image-`uname -r`
<br>to actually make the initrd and install it. where the heck is there even<br>documentation on what dpkg-reconfig does for all important packages, or what<br>files are used for what. oh, to change X stuff, no problem, change mystical
<br>undocumented X files, and run dpkg-reconfigure xorg. WTF WHERES THE DOCS!!!<br>><br>Why didn't you just REMOVE usplash???<br><br>A quick Google on dpkg-reconfigure -<br><br>"Software contained in Debian<br><
<a href="http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Debian">http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Debian</a>> packages which make use of<br>debconf <<a href="http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Debconf">http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Debconf
</a>> can usually be<br>configured by running<br><br>dpkg-reconfigure /package_name/<br><br>rather than by hand-editing config files."<br><br>> ..and i still have more things i need to get working, like when i install
<br>the mythtv package and it doesn't come with mythtv-setup.WTF.<br>><br>Yeah it does...try this <a href="http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html">http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html</a><br>><br>
> Gah!!!<br>><br>Sounds like you definitely have a bad CD. Is this the same CD we had at<br>a meeting a few months ago that we couldn't install either? Wasn't that<br>like Warty, which is 2 releases ago?? Wireless works fine over here, you
<br>don't have to recompile any kernels.<br>--<br>Jesse Jarzynka<br>Cyber Source<br><a href="http://www.jessejoe.com/">http://www.jessejoe.com/</a><br><a href="http://www.thecybersource.com/">http://www.thecybersource.com/
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