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I've pretty much come to the conclusion that we need to do maildir but
you can check my reasoning. We are doing UW-Imap to mostly
netscape/mozilla clients (using sendmail/procmail) we have over 200
users worldwide. We use squirrelmail to allow user to remotly access
their mail. We have had requests for subfolders, but this is not a show
stopper. Our european group wants subfolders so they copy their mail to
their local folders in mozilla, so if their box dies, their hosed. Many
users have extremly large inboxes, many over 200MB. We're trying to get
them to file mail, or delete it but thats a seperate issue. Quotas on
/var is always an option. Anyways when you open inbox in squirrelmail
and it needs to parse a 200MB file it slows to a crawl. So I belive
going to maildir is the best solution all around. I don't want to stray
too far from the 'canned' Redhat Linux Enterprise product, just to keep
things easy for update purposes. So procmail and sendmail with courier
is prob the best option.<br>
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Justin<br>
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Mark Musone wrote:<br>
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cite="mid000001c35cec$20e59560$3301a8c0@usa.shatterit.com">
<pre wrap="">For brevity's sake below is a quick summary that tries to simplify
things
Mail Server POP Server IMAP Server
Native Format
qmail qmail-popd NONE
Maildir
sendmail uw-popd uw-imapd
unix mailbox (*)
courier
Maildir
Cyrus Cyrus Cyrus
Proprietary
(*) Although the native format is unix mailbox, It's easy to change it.
IMHO, if you want to go with Maildir as your format, your probably best
off
going with the following options in order of best-fits:
1. qmail Mailserver and the POP/IMAP server that natively supports
Maildir, meaning qmail and courier.
2. If you don’t want to use qmail, since sendmail is easy to change
formats (using procmail), sendmail+procmail and courier
3. If you don’t want to use courier for the imap server, you can use
sendmail+procmail and uw-imapd patched to use Maildir.
The one thing overall I'd caution is that you currently seem
predetermined to use Maildir. Generally you should determine the
following in order for the end email system:
1. What is the current number of users?
2. What is the email client the users are using
3. What is the average and maximum mailbox size
4. What is the average and maximum mail message size
5. What is the frequency and concurrency of email checking
6. what is the average and maximum number of mail messages per box
7. What is the average number of mail messages in/out per hour
8. What is the average "live" message time (how long do message sit
around till the end user deletes them)
The above answers should determine the mailbox format for you (not the
other way around)
Once you have the mailbox format, then you can go on and choose the best
mail server and access server.
barring all of the above..heh...just pick one and go with it!!! in most
small business to medium business needs, simply anything will work fine.
Good Luck!
-Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org">owner-nflug@nflug.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org">mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org</a>] On Behalf Of
Robert Meyer
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 9:30 AM
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nflug@nflug.org">nflug@nflug.org</a>
Subject: Re: Maildir
I used the uw patch. Bad things happen... Outlook kills it in a bad
way.
I've used courier IMAP with Outlook with good success. It uses the
'maildir'
format. Courier uses it's own daemon (as opposed to using (x)inetd) and
can be
customized for numbers of allowable connections.
As far as storing maildir format, you can do it in sendmail by using
'procmail'
as your mail delivery agent. It's a two line config for procmail and
you
specify procmail as your MDA in your sendmail config. It took me about
20
minutes to research and write the appropriate configs the first time I
did it.
Cheers!
Bob
--- Justin Bennett <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:justin.bennett@dynabrade.com"><justin.bennett@dynabrade.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I know there has been some discussion about this before, but here
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<pre wrap=""><!---->goes.
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<pre wrap="">I'm looking for an imap/maildir solution that is easy to maintain. I
have systems here and in europe and use Redhat Enterpise with Redhat
network to keep them up on updates and security patches. I would like
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<pre wrap=""><!---->to
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<pre wrap="">do maildir, but all the solutions I seem to find require custom
compiling software (qmail) to do this. Anybody have an easier
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<pre wrap=""><!---->solution,
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<pre wrap="">I know there was talk of a UW patch, I assume you still need qmail
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<pre wrap=""><!---->though.
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<pre wrap="">--
Justin Bennett
Network Administrator
RHCE (Redhat Certified Linux Engineer)
Dynabrade, Inc.
8989 Sheridan Dr.
Clarence, NY 14031
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Justin Bennett
Network Administrator
RHCE (Redhat Certified Linux Engineer)
Dynabrade, Inc.
8989 Sheridan Dr.
Clarence, NY 14031
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