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not really, this is why I would like to see a few meetings on kernels. My point simply is this. What if I have a new RedHat install and I realize that I need to customize the kernel for whatever reason, be it a digital camera that needs support or the fact that I want my kernel to actually use a config for an Athlon processor and not a generic Pll setup. I am looking for a way to modify the kernel I have so I dont have to go through the entire choice list from scratch, or am I getting this all wrong??<BR>
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 20:21, Mark Musone wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE="2">the kernel is not compiled during the install. the whole point of redhat is that essentially _everything_ possible is compiled as modules.</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE="2">other minimal stuff is then compiled into the kernel, and the remaining stuff is neither a module or compiled in (ntfs for example). this is all done ahead of time (in the redhat labs)..</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE="2">the install program only chooses what modules to _load_. that’s the supposed beauty of both redhat and a true modular OS,</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE="2">compile everything as a module and then load it as-needed. </FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE="2">this is why you want to use the .config from the redhat kernel-source package.</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE="2">There is only a handful of unique .config files with redhat. one for each architecture type, and then for dual or single cpu’s.</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE="2">cause the last thing you want to do is remove modules that redhat is expecting..</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE="2">make sense?</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE="2">-Mark</FONT><BR>
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<B>From:</B> owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Cyber Source<BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:40 PM<BR>
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Yes, I know all that but it does not create a .config file based on that and I am looking for a way to do it<BR>
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 19:29, Ron wrote: <BR>
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<PRE>logical but incomplete, sorry, of course the install program would have made
changes based on it's probing of the hardware and user input
On August 5, 2003 06:58 pm, Cyber Source wrote:
> that would be a logical thought but it appears not to be that way
>
> On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 18:49, Ron wrote:
> > Would the kernel not be compiled during the install from the same .config
> > file that is included in the kernel source package with the result that
> > it is based on what is already there?
> >
> > --
> > Ron
> > ronb@cogeco.ca
> >
> > On August 5, 2003 06:15 pm, Cyber Source wrote:
> > > what would be the use in that? I know they have to start somewhere but
> > > I can't see a use to have the default settings after the fact. So is
> > > there no way to at least create a .config file based on what is
> > > already in the system from the install?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 17:43, Mark Musone wrote:
> > > > Not in the case of for example redhat, when you install the
> > > > kernel-source package, it has the .config file that came with that
> > > > standard kernel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > that way if you need to recompile the kernel sources, you don’t have
> > > > to go about guessing what redhat has for the default settings..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Mark
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [</FONT><A HREF="mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org"><FONT SIZE="3">mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org</FONT></A><FONT COLOR="#737373" SIZE="3">] On Behalf
> > > > Of Cyber Source
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:20 PM
> > > > To: nflug@nflug.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Re:
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Also, thanks to Kevin Glosser for the really nice post on kernel
> > > > compiling. I was able to do a couple but as you said, you will
> > > > probably not get it right the first time or so and I didnt, lol. What
> > > > I would like to do is know how to take what you have from the install
> > > > and manipulate that, instead of compiling from scratch. I know you
> > > > put about moving the .config file but that doesnt seem to exist UNTIL
> > > > you do the choices for compile, i.e. make xconfig.
> > > > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 16:52, Cyber Source wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Put a vote for that in for me too!
> > > > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 11:55, Riga, Anthony wrote:
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > Will there be any meetings this weekend? I would be intrested in
> > > > learning kernel compiles....
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