From hubbardr at adelphia.net Wed Mar 2 18:39:25 2005 From: hubbardr at adelphia.net (Richard Hubbard) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:31 2005 Subject: Backups In-Reply-To: <421F3E65.4020502@main.nc.us> References: <421F3E65.4020502@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <42264EAD.9080404@adelphia.net> In the last meeting, a similar question came up. Bob is a fan of dump and restore, basically because everything understands the formats and they work (plus they are there in almost every distribution) Depending on what you are backing up, tar works fine. rsync is an option. i haven't done it, but here is a link to an article which elaborates on the 'across the network' that you are talking about: http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/10951_1573881_1 hope this helps... Joe wrote: > While you're looking into backups, check out the rsync command. It's > fast and can be set up to back up only what has changed from the last > backup. > > Joe > > Frank Kumro wrote: > >> Im sure this topic has been discussed many times but I cannot find any >> of the old emails. I am looking for a backup solution for my linux >> machine. An extra machine is available so I would like to do backups >> and have them stored on that networked machine. Does anyone do this >> already and would like to share their wisdom? >> >> > From erek at nbtsc.org Wed Mar 2 21:43:04 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050303024303.GB13723@nbtsc.org> If you have excess storage on the backup server, I would look into rsnapshot. It is an incremental backup script that rsyncs daily backups into different folders, using hard links so that files that didn't change are only stored once. We use it on our servers so we can restore from several backups previous. Erek On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 10:31:12AM -0500, Frank Kumro wrote: > Im sure this topic has been discussed many times but I cannot find any > of the old emails. I am looking for a backup solution for my linux > machine. An extra machine is available so I would like to do backups > and have them stored on that networked machine. Does anyone do this > already and would like to share their wisdom? > -- > Frank > Shenanigans!! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050303/3e8801d8/attachment.pgp From mmusone at shatterit.com Thu Mar 3 11:26:53 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Looking for CPU Message-ID: <000001c5200d$d0389540$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Hey guys, anyone have a working used Athlon Cpu they have no use for? 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Still does this show how messed up the uk is where is linus's knigthship http://buffalonews.com/editorial/20050303/1033755.asp -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From robert_todd at adelphia.net Thu Mar 3 12:10:44 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Sparc Message-ID: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for this mailing list/group, but was just curious. Thanks! Robert Wolfe [MCP] From yearke at eng.buffalo.edu Thu Mar 3 12:36:19 2005 From: yearke at eng.buffalo.edu (Dave Yearke) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Sparc Message-ID: <200503031736.j23HaJqS008174@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> >Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and >running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in >the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone >running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for >this mailing list/group, but was just curious. > >Thanks! >Robert Wolfe [MCP] I've been beta-testing Solaris 10 for a few months now, and it's pretty interesting. I have been wondering if there is any interest in non-Linux, free (as in beer), Unix-like operating systems among the readers of this list. Solaris will soon be released under an open source license, but I don't know how much of a difference that makes as far as this list goes. As for U5s, they're nice workstations, and they hold up well. We have many here that have been in continuous service since they first came out, which has to be at least five years now, if memory serves me correctly (and it often doesn't). If there is interest, I'll summarize what I like and don't like about it. If not, or if this is out-of-bounds for the list, then forget I said anything. :-) -- Dave Yearke, yearke@eng.buffalo.edu "We are, after all, professionals" -- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson From djandruczyk at yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 12:54:39 2005 From: djandruczyk at yahoo.com (Dave Andruczyk) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Sparc In-Reply-To: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20050303175439.2670.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> --- Robert Wolfe wrote: > Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and > running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in > the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone > running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for > this mailing list/group, but was just curious. > I've got an Ultra 30 and an Ultra60, both ran linux (gentoo) I haven't tried solaris 10 yet. (don't have any ISO's yet) I'm curious to try sol10 though as I have some of the nicer 3D cards (Elite3D m3's) ===== Dave J. Andruczyk __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Thu Mar 3 13:40:41 2005 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Sparc In-Reply-To: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> References: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <42275A29.6040103@cognigencorp.com> i'm have a really old 25mhz sun IPX at home, it's nothing more then a paper weight now. check out blastwave.org for all of you favorite GNU packages, i'm going to maintaining some packages for them and this is shameless self promotion. i have the 4 solaris 10 iso's downloaded, i can burn them for anyone who wants them. Robert Wolfe wrote: > Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and > running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in > the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone > running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for > this mailing list/group, but was just curious. > > Thanks! > Robert Wolfe [MCP] -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From qfwfq at adelphia.net Thu Mar 3 14:16:54 2005 From: qfwfq at adelphia.net (Stephen Burke) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Gates has been Knigthed In-Reply-To: <2af2a0db05030309042ff0f52a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af2a0db05030309042ff0f52a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <422762A6.40809@adelphia.net> Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: >He was knigth by the queen of england BUT he can not use sir because >he is american > >"... As an American, Gates is not entitled to use "Sir" before his >name, but he can put the initials "K.B.E." - Knight Commander of the >British Empire - after it. ..." > >Still does this show how messed up the uk is where is linus's knigthship > >http://buffalonews.com/editorial/20050303/1033755.asp > Linus is not a fascist. That's why we're here. ;-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Still does this show how messed up the > uk is where is linus's > knigthship http://buffalonews.com/editorial/20050303/1033755.asp > Linus is not a fascist. > > That's why we're here. ;-) > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From robert_todd at adelphia.net Fri Mar 4 01:19:35 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Sparc In-Reply-To: <200503031736.j23HaJqS008174@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> References: <200503031736.j23HaJqS008174@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <4227FDF7.2000608@adelphia.net> Dave Yearke wrote: >>Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and >>running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in >>the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone >>running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for >>this mailing list/group, but was just curious. >> >>Thanks! >>Robert Wolfe [MCP] >> >> > >I've been beta-testing Solaris 10 for a few months now, and it's pretty >interesting. I have been wondering if there is any interest in non-Linux, free >(as in beer), Unix-like operating systems among the readers of this list. >Solaris will soon be released under an open source license, but I don't know how >much of a difference that makes as far as this list goes. > >As for U5s, they're nice workstations, and they hold up well. We have many here >that have been in continuous service since they first came out, which has to be >at least five years now, if memory serves me correctly (and it often doesn't). > >If there is interest, I'll summarize what I like and don't like about it. If >not, or if this is out-of-bounds for the list, then forget I said anything. :-) > > > Well, perhaps I should use the mailing list capability I have with my webhosting provider in Cheektowaga to set up a Linux mailing list and a Solaris mailing list :) From robert_todd at adelphia.net Fri Mar 4 01:36:12 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Sparc In-Reply-To: <20050303175439.2670.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050303175439.2670.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <422801DC.7010909@adelphia.net> Dave Andruczyk wrote: >--- Robert Wolfe wrote: > > > >>Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and >>running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in >>the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone >>running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for >>this mailing list/group, but was just curious. >> >> >> > >I've got an Ultra 30 and an Ultra60, both ran linux (gentoo) I haven't tried >solaris 10 yet. (don't have any ISO's yet) I'm curious to try sol10 though as >I have some of the nicer 3D cards (Elite3D m3's) > > > Well, if you would like a copy of Solaris 10 on CDROM, I would be more than happy to make you a set from my set. Just email me at robert_todd@adelphia.net. From javabob at adelphia.net Fri Mar 4 05:31:18 2005 From: javabob at adelphia.net (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: EFF and Broadcast Flags Message-ID: <422838F6.3080007@adelphia.net> Thought many of the list members might be interested in this. http://www.eff.org/broadcastflag/cookbook/ Apparently, some required hardware may not be available after July 1, 2005 when broadcast flags may become "LAW". Hope this helps those that are interested. Bob From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Fri Mar 4 09:39:19 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup Message-ID: <42287317.4060102@Dynabrade.com> Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely nothing about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand alone Windows 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a Vs160 tape drive, I'm trying to use this windows backup utility to schedule a nightly backup and it doesn't look like it fired last night. It had a brand new tape in it, I think it might have to do with that. I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, that I can back the server up and restore it to another machine if it dies. Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and extract files, no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is always good too. Thanks, Justin -- Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 From ebenoit at hopevale.com Fri Mar 4 10:01:17 2005 From: ebenoit at hopevale.com (Eric) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: laptop In-Reply-To: <42275A29.6040103@cognigencorp.com> References: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> <42275A29.6040103@cognigencorp.com> Message-ID: <4228783D.4060408@hopevale.com> Does anyone have an old laptop with a cdrom I could purchase from them. 100mhz speed would be swell! I have to miniturize my current 486 clunker DNS and router Thanks, Eric From peter at thecybersource.com Fri Mar 4 10:44:12 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: laptop In-Reply-To: <4228783D.4060408@hopevale.com> References: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> <42275A29.6040103@cognigencorp.com> <4228783D.4060408@hopevale.com> Message-ID: <4228824C.1090003@thecybersource.com> Eric wrote: > Does anyone have an old laptop with a cdrom I could purchase from > them. 100mhz speed would be swell! > > I have to miniturize my current 486 clunker DNS and router > > Thanks, > Eric We have a Dell Inspiron 7000 that we're selling for a client of ours. Contact me offlist for the details. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From yjjeepinmike at yahoo.com Fri Mar 4 11:34:25 2005 From: yjjeepinmike at yahoo.com (Mike Leonis) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: laptop In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050304163425.86779.qmail@web60501.mail.yahoo.com> did you really mean 100mhz? i have a dell latitude cpxj gt650..... e-mail me at yjjeepinmike@yahoo.com for details. Eric wrote: Does anyone have an old laptop with a cdrom I could purchase from them. 100mhz speed would be swell! I have to miniturize my current 486 clunker DNS and router Thanks, Eric --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Stockdale IV wrote: > Thought many of the list members might be interested in this. > > http://www.eff.org/broadcastflag/cookbook/ > > Apparently, some required hardware may not be available after July 1, > 2005 when broadcast flags may become "LAW". > Hope this helps those that are interested. > Bob > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From erek at nbtsc.org Sat Mar 5 09:29:30 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <42287317.4060102@Dynabrade.com> References: <42287317.4060102@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <20050305142930.GC11939@nbtsc.org> Justin, Doesn't exactly fit your 'no's list, but I have had good results with Retrospect backup. If you can afford it, I'd strongly recommend you go with an incremental backup scheme. If the server goes entirely haywire, you' ll probably know within a day, but if the CFO accidentally deletes his pictures of his kids, it may take a few days before someone reports it. It has been great for us to be able to say "Would you like yesterday's or last week's version of your file" when someone needs a restore (Which happens suprisingly often. Maybe once every three months. Usually requested two to three days after they delete the file.) Hope this is helpful. Regards, Erek On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 09:39:19AM -0500, Justin Bennett wrote: > Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely nothing > about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand alone Windows > 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a Vs160 tape drive, I'm > trying to use this windows backup utility to schedule a nightly backup > and it doesn't look like it fired last night. It had a brand new tape in > it, I think it might have to do with that. > > I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, that I > can back the server up and restore it to another machine if it dies. > Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and extract files, > no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is always good too. > > > Thanks, > Justin > > -- > Justin Bennett > Network Administrator > Dynabrade, Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr. > Clarence, NY 14031 > > From ron_browning14223 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 22:04:49 2005 From: ron_browning14223 at yahoo.com (ron browning) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <42287317.4060102@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <20050306030449.38370.qmail@web21323.mail.yahoo.com> Get a RAID controller and mirror. M$ wont back up certain operating files (like the boot! to protect their copyright). Otherwise consider a second drive and back up data via a batch file and "scheduler". Justin Bennett wrote: Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely nothing about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand alone Windows 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a Vs160 tape drive, I'm trying to use this windows backup utility to schedule a nightly backup and it doesn't look like it fired last night. It had a brand new tape in it, I think it might have to do with that. I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, that I can back the server up and restore it to another machine if it dies. Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and extract files, no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is always good too. Thanks, Justin -- Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050306/773b755c/attachment.html From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Sun Mar 6 10:12:36 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <20050306030449.38370.qmail@web21323.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050306030449.38370.qmail@web21323.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <422B1DE4.7000501@Dynabrade.Com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050306/a921d87f/attachment.html From peter at thecybersource.com Sun Mar 6 11:29:15 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <422B1DE4.7000501@Dynabrade.Com> References: <20050306030449.38370.qmail@web21323.mail.yahoo.com> <422B1DE4.7000501@Dynabrade.Com> Message-ID: <422B2FDB.9020909@thecybersource.com> Justin Bennett wrote: > It's ultra320 scsi mirrored drives. The issue I have is that it's User > Filesystems, Engineering drawings actually. I just want to backup the > drawings. But I want a dependable backup, not something that I need > the backup tape, and catalogs to do restore. Soemthing that if all > hell broke loose, I could put the tape in a tape drive and pull the > data off. > > > ron browning wrote: > >> Get a RAID controller and mirror. M$ wont back up certain operating >> files (like the boot! to protect their copyright). Otherwise consider >> a second drive and back up data via a batch file >> and "scheduler". >> >> */Justin Bennett /* wrote: >> >> Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely >> nothing >> about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand alone Windows >> 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a Vs160 tape >> drive, I'm >> trying to use this windows backup utility to schedule a nightly >> backup >> and it doesn't look like it fired last night. It had a brand new >> tape in >> it, I think it might have to do with that. >> >> I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, >> that I >> can back the server up and restore it to another machine if it dies. >> Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and extract >> files, >> no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is always good too. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Justin >> >> -- >> Justin Bennett >> Network Administrator >> Dynabrade, Inc. >> 8989 Sheridan Dr. >> Clarence, NY 14031 >> >> >> ! >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! >> Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web >> > I've been following this one to see what you guys come up with as I have a similar situation. The scsi mirror will help with a hardware failure but not a software one. In my situation, I'm just thinking of using tar in a cron to backup some smb shares. Since the data is the critical thing and not the OS stuff, that'll work for me. Instead of getting all incremental too, I just create like folders for different days of the week, then do full tars to each folder respective of the day of the week, this way I have full backups with a week of tolerance, plenty of time to catch something. With the cost of hard drives today, space is cheap. Not the prettiest most well thought out plan but it works. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From erek at nbtsc.org Sun Mar 6 12:14:59 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <422B2FDB.9020909@thecybersource.com> References: <20050306030449.38370.qmail@web21323.mail.yahoo.com> <422B1DE4.7000501@Dynabrade.Com> <422B2FDB.9020909@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <20050306171458.GB15484@nbtsc.org> Depending upon how often you intend to restore individual files from backup, I would consider using rsync and/or rsnapshot to do the daily backups. This way you could use standard filesystem tools to restore files rather than having to use tar. If you do incremental rsnapshot backups, it would probably use about the same amount of space as non-incremental tar.gz files. Regards, Erek > a similar situation. The scsi mirror will help with a hardware failure > but not a software one. In my situation, I'm just thinking of using tar > in a cron to backup some smb shares. Since the data is the critical > thing and not the OS stuff, that'll work for me. Instead of getting all > incremental too, I just create like folders for different days of the > week, then do full tars to each folder respective of the day of the > week, this way I have full backups with a week of tolerance, plenty of > time to catch something. With the cost of hard drives today, space is > cheap. Not the prettiest most well thought out plan but it works. > > -- > cybersource.us > 115 Richfield Road > Williamsville, New York 14221 > 716-553-8525 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This way you could use standard filesystem tools to restore >files rather than having to use tar. > >If you do incremental rsnapshot backups, it would probably use about the >same amount of space as non-incremental tar.gz files. > >Regards, >Erek > > > >>a similar situation. The scsi mirror will help with a hardware failure >>but not a software one. In my situation, I'm just thinking of using tar >>in a cron to backup some smb shares. Since the data is the critical >>thing and not the OS stuff, that'll work for me. Instead of getting all >>incremental too, I just create like folders for different days of the >>week, then do full tars to each folder respective of the day of the >>week, this way I have full backups with a week of tolerance, plenty of >>time to catch something. With the cost of hard drives today, space is >>cheap. Not the prettiest most well thought out plan but it works. >> >>-- >>cybersource.us >>115 Richfield Road >>Williamsville, New York 14221 >>716-553-8525 >> > > > From carlyos at Buffalo.com Mon Mar 7 08:27:43 2005 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost Jr) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup Message-ID: <20050307132743.72D3B11B723@ws4-1.us4.outblaze.com> Not sure if anyone hit on this with Windows backup but you need to go into the retore media manage tab and mark the media as free to use. A lot of the automated features are stripped out of MS's backup software that you would normally see. When I put in new media I also always seem to have to do a quick small backup so NTBackup will add the media to the media pool and so I can mark it free daily. I had an arcticle on how to automate more of NTBackup if I can find it again I will send it off to you. I have a windows 2003 server box I have to do this on daily. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Bennett" To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:39:19 -0500 > > Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely > nothing about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand > alone Windows 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a > Vs160 tape drive, I'm trying to use this windows backup utility to > schedule a nightly backup and it doesn't look like it fired last > night. It had a brand new tape in it, I think it might have to do > with that. > > I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, > that I can back the server up and restore it to another machine if > it dies. Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and > extract files, no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is > always good too. > > > Thanks, > Justin > > -- Justin Bennett > Network Administrator > Dynabrade, Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr. > Clarence, NY 14031 > -- _______________________________________________ http://www.Buffalo.com , WNY's #1 Website From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Mon Mar 7 09:48:08 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <20050307132743.72D3B11B723@ws4-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050307132743.72D3B11B723@ws4-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <422C69A8.60904@Dynabrade.com> Thats the problem, the backup pool stuff, if the machine were to die and I had to releod it, could I restore from the tape without having the tape info stored on the machine? I have no experience backing up windows boxes, and thus have no faith that I would be able to get the files back in the event of a failure, so I'm going to share the windows drive mount it on my Backup server via samba, and just take a tar onto a tape of the files I need to backup. Then I feel comfortable in the even of a failure I could reinstall Windows 2003, and get the data back. Thanks for all the help! Justin Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/7/2005 8:27 AM, Carl Yost Jr wrote: >Not sure if anyone hit on this with Windows backup but you need to go into the retore media manage tab and mark the media as free to use. A lot of the automated features are stripped out of MS's backup software that you would normally see. When I put in new media I also always seem to have to do a quick small backup so NTBackup will add the media to the media pool and so I can mark it free daily. I had an arcticle on how to automate more of NTBackup if I can find it again I will send it off to you. I have a windows 2003 server box I have to do this on daily. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Justin Bennett" >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup >Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:39:19 -0500 > > > >>Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely >>nothing about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand >>alone Windows 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a >>Vs160 tape drive, I'm trying to use this windows backup utility to >>schedule a nightly backup and it doesn't look like it fired last >>night. It had a brand new tape in it, I think it might have to do >>with that. >> >>I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, >>that I can back the server up and restore it to another machine if >>it dies. Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and >>extract files, no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is >>always good too. >> >> >>Thanks, >>Justin >> >>-- Justin Bennett >>Network Administrator >>Dynabrade, Inc. >>8989 Sheridan Dr. >>Clarence, NY 14031 >> >> >> > > > From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Tue Mar 8 08:30:48 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Smbmount / Tar Message-ID: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> Following Pete's recommendation on backing up files from windows, I'm using tar off of a smbmount file share, I'm getting file changed as we read it errors during the tar, it's always the same files, and in windows they haven't changed. I did some googleing and found that this is an issue with windows reporting the timestamp and that the file should be ok. Can anyone confirm they've see this problem? Thanks Justin -- Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 From dvmail at texas.net Tue Mar 8 08:55:53 2005 From: dvmail at texas.net (Daniel Villarreal) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Natural Language Processing - FOSS In-Reply-To: <421D26C6.10808@bluefrog.biz> References: <421D26C6.10808@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <20050308085553.1f06bce0.dvmail@texas.net> Thanks for posting this. I am trying to put together a project using OSIS and SMIL standards. It will be a challenge, but there are a lot of tools out there already. I"m studying XML right now for this. There's a lot to learn. I would like for my effort to be all Free Open-Source software, but I don't see how I can achieve this and reach MS Windows/POSIX-type users (Un*x/GNU-Linux)/Mac users... unless I use something that depends on Java. Using XML would seem to give me a lot of options, but I only found one Open Source Software package that really does what I want. Maybe XML/OSIS/SMIL will present me with future opportunities to do what I really want. Maybe I should start studying computer programming. Daniel On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:58:46 -0500 Scott Lawton wrote: > I remember some time ago there was quite a bit of traffic in the list > from someone regarding natural language software. > I found this in the Morphix derivatives list, and thought it might be of > interest. > Quote from the page: > > Morphix-NLP is a Live CD Linux distribution with a rich collection of > Natural Language Processing (NLP) applications. Though the field of NLP > has undergone decades of intensive research, software designed in the > NLP community are often scattered around the net and are not known by > the larger computer user community. Consequently, most NLP software can > not be found in mainstream distributions even years after the first > public release. ... > The link: > http://morphix-nlp.berlios.de/ From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 09:13:01 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Smbmount / Tar In-Reply-To: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> References: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <422DB2ED.6000607@thecybersource.com> Justin Bennett wrote: > Following Pete's recommendation on backing up files from windows, I'm > using tar off of a smbmount file share, I'm getting file changed as we > read it errors during the tar, it's always the same files, and in > windows they haven't changed. I did some googleing and found that this > is an issue with windows reporting the timestamp and that the file > should be ok. Can anyone confirm they've see this problem? > > Thanks > Justin > Are these system files your having the trouble with? I have seen tar complain about time stamps but usually it's an ACL thing. Are the times between your windows box and Linux box the same? I don't have the same situation (thankfully). I have a Linux server acting as a PDC and I wanted to backup the samba shares. So I had an older box with a scsi backplane that was too old for anything other than a role as a backup server, which I put into place last night and have the PDC NFS export the directories I want to backup. The backup server mounts the NFS exports and tars them up nightly to another drive on the backup server, here is a snippet of my one week tolerance from cron, #Backup Act Databases on Monday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Monday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act #Backup Act Databases on Tuesday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Tuesday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act #Backup Act Databases on Wednesday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Wednesday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act #Backup Act Databases on Thursday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Thursday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act #Backup Act Databases on Friday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Friday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act #Backup Act Databases on Saturday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Saturday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act I just really don't like tapes and this works for me ;). -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From fkumro at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 09:11:39 2005 From: fkumro at gmail.com (Frank Kumro) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk Message-ID: I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount it with sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? -- Frank Shenanigans!! From dvmail at texas.net Tue Mar 8 09:13:50 2005 From: dvmail at texas.net (Daniel Villarreal) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Smbmount / Tar --> possible option In-Reply-To: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> References: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <20050308091350.5bab97a3.dvmail@texas.net> Since if you use MS Windows you can't be too concerned about uptime... Why not boot up with Knoppix (http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html) and scp the whole Windows setup to a Linux box. If you use a Red-Hat type OS, like CentOS (http://centos.org/), you can get NTFS modules at http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/index.html something like, depending on setup on your other computer... ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.x route add default gw 192.168.0.1 scp -c blowfish /mnt/cdrive root@192.168.0.x:/home/storage/win - or - Go get WinSCP and just SFTP to a Linux box... http://winscp.sourceforge.net/eng/index.php WinSCP is an open source SFTP client for Windows using SSH. have fun, Daniel On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:30:48 -0500 Justin Bennett wrote: > Following Pete's recommendation on backing up files from windows, I'm > using tar off of a smbmount file share, I'm getting file changed as we > read it errors during the tar, it's always the same files, and in > windows they haven't changed. I did some googleing and found that this > is an issue with windows reporting the timestamp and that the file > should be ok. Can anyone confirm they've see this problem? > > Thanks > Justin > > -- > Justin Bennett > Network Administrator > Dynabrade, Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr. > Clarence, NY 14031 > > From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Tue Mar 8 09:20:55 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Smbmount / Tar --> possible option In-Reply-To: <20050308091350.5bab97a3.dvmail@texas.net> References: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> <20050308091350.5bab97a3.dvmail@texas.net> Message-ID: <422DB4C7.70108@Dynabrade.com> It's alot of data, when all is said and done it's going to be like 70GB. I could sftp it to a linuxbox, then write it to tape from there, but then I need a staging area big enough on the backup server. I need to put it to tape becuase I need some history. From what I read the smbmount/tar timestamp issue is a known one, it's not critical but a little quirky, I'm not worried too much about it at this point. Thanks for all the posts! Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/8/2005 9:13 AM, Daniel Villarreal wrote: >Since if you use MS Windows you can't be too concerned about uptime... > >Why not boot up with Knoppix (http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html) and scp the whole Windows setup to a Linux box. > >If you use a Red-Hat type OS, like CentOS (http://centos.org/), you can get NTFS modules at http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/index.html > >something like, depending on setup on your other computer... > >ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.x >route add default gw 192.168.0.1 > >scp -c blowfish /mnt/cdrive root@192.168.0.x:/home/storage/win > >- or - > >Go get WinSCP and just SFTP to a Linux box... >http://winscp.sourceforge.net/eng/index.php > >WinSCP is an open source SFTP client for Windows using SSH. > > >have fun, >Daniel > > >On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:30:48 -0500 >Justin Bennett wrote: > > > >>Following Pete's recommendation on backing up files from windows, I'm >>using tar off of a smbmount file share, I'm getting file changed as we >>read it errors during the tar, it's always the same files, and in >>windows they haven't changed. I did some googleing and found that this >>is an issue with windows reporting the timestamp and that the file >>should be ok. Can anyone confirm they've see this problem? >> >>Thanks >>Justin >> >>-- >>Justin Bennett >>Network Administrator >>Dynabrade, Inc. >>8989 Sheridan Dr. >>Clarence, NY 14031 >> >> >> >> From john at kegworks.com Tue Mar 8 09:21:43 2005 From: john at kegworks.com (John Nichel) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422DB4F7.7040403@kegworks.com> Frank Kumro wrote: > I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to > the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount > it with > > sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ > > I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it > either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? > Add it to your fstab...something like this.... /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk vfat noauto,users,rw,umask=0 0 0 -- John C. Nichel ?berGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 john@kegworks.com From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 09:34:41 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:32 2005 Subject: Smbmount / Tar In-Reply-To: <422DB2ED.6000607@thecybersource.com> References: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> <422DB2ED.6000607@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <422DB801.8090706@thecybersource.com> Cyber Source wrote: > Justin Bennett wrote: > >> Following Pete's recommendation on backing up files from windows, I'm >> using tar off of a smbmount file share, I'm getting file changed as >> we read it errors during the tar, it's always the same files, and in >> windows they haven't changed. I did some googleing and found that >> this is an issue with windows reporting the timestamp and that the >> file should be ok. Can anyone confirm they've see this problem? >> >> Thanks >> Justin >> > Are these system files your having the trouble with? I have seen tar > complain about time stamps but usually it's an ACL thing. Are the > times between your windows box and Linux box the same? > I don't have the same situation (thankfully). I have a Linux server > acting as a PDC and I wanted to backup the samba shares. So I had an > older box with a scsi backplane that was too old for anything other > than a role as a backup server, which I put into place last night and > have the PDC NFS export the directories I want to backup. The backup > server mounts the NFS exports and tars them up nightly to another > drive on the backup server, here is a snippet of my one week tolerance > from cron, > #Backup Act Databases on Monday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Monday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > #Backup Act Databases on Tuesday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Tuesday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > #Backup Act Databases on Wednesday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Wednesday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > #Backup Act Databases on Thursday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Thursday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > #Backup Act Databases on Friday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Friday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > #Backup Act Databases on Saturday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Saturday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > > I just really don't like tapes and this works for me ;). > for those of you that noticed, i corrected the crons with the correct day. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 09:41:26 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422DB996.2000200@thecybersource.com> Frank Kumro wrote: >I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to >the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount >it with > >sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ > >I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it >either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? > > > Your on FC3 right? You should probably update your kernel to at least 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 (that one is very stable for us) and make sure your haldaemon is running. It should auto mount and be rw and nautilus should even pop up a window showing the contents. If you have the stock kernel that came with FC3, I suspect that is your problem (if the haldaemon is running that is). -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 09:42:25 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk In-Reply-To: <422DB4F7.7040403@kegworks.com> References: <422DB4F7.7040403@kegworks.com> Message-ID: <422DB9D1.3000302@thecybersource.com> John Nichel wrote: > Frank Kumro wrote: > >> I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to >> the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount >> it with >> >> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ >> >> I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it >> either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? >> > > Add it to your fstab...something like this.... > > /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk vfat noauto,users,rw,umask=0 0 0 > If he has FC3 and I believe he does, that is all handled with haldaemon, no fstab entry is necessary. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 10:23:52 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk In-Reply-To: <422DB996.2000200@thecybersource.com> References: <422DB996.2000200@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <422DC388.9040409@thecybersource.com> Cyber Source wrote: > Frank Kumro wrote: > >> I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to >> the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount >> it with >> >> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ >> >> I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it >> either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? >> >> >> > Your on FC3 right? You should probably update your kernel to at least > 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 (that one is very stable for us) and make sure your > haldaemon is running. It should auto mount and be rw and nautilus > should even pop up a window showing the contents. If you have the > stock kernel that came with FC3, I suspect that is your problem (if > the haldaemon is running that is). > sorry again, wrong kernel wrong pc (im still on FC2). The kernel we are currently running with FC3 is 2.6.9-1.667 -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From frank at mogosystems.com Tue Mar 8 21:51:36 2005 From: frank at mogosystems.com (frank@mogosystems.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? Message-ID: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050308/c343047d/attachment.ksh From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 22:03:54 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> References: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> Message-ID: <2af2a0db050308190319e0b2da@mail.gmail.com> DNS not updateing it has happened to me in the past On 9 Mar 2005 02:51:36 -0000, frank@mogosystems.com wrote: > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These are > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get them to > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to figure > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks, > Frank > > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From djandruczyk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 8 22:12:45 2005 From: djandruczyk at yahoo.com (Dave Andruczyk) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050309031245.58493.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> --- frank@mogosystems.com wrote: > > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These are > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get them > to > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to > figure > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? > Check your /etc/resolve.conf. it should have the IP address of your DNS server (the same one you see in network properties on your windows machine, if it has 127.0.0.1 it might mean that named has stopped running on your local machine (named is the DNS server, and by default on most distros is setup in a caching mode). try restarting named "service named restart" or "/etc/init.d.named restart" Dave J. Andruczyk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 22:21:37 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> References: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> Message-ID: <422E6BC1.6080103@thecybersource.com> frank@mogosystems.com wrote: > >I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These are >sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get them to >load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to figure >out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? > >Thanks, >Frank > > > traceroute will tell you if routers are down on the internet, "traceroute yahoo.com" will show you all the hops it takes to get there, if you get any *, that particular router is timing out, etc. Right now, I'm showing time outs on some routers, I think there is some trouble on the net tonight. If root routers go down, and they do from time to time, it can cause troubles until a different route is used, etc.. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 22:22:47 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> References: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> Message-ID: <422E6C07.7090909@thecybersource.com> frank@mogosystems.com wrote: > >I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These are >sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get them to >load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to figure >out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? > >Thanks, >Frank > > > here is a snippet of my results tonight, [peter@Office peter]$ traceroute yahoo.com traceroute: Warning: yahoo.com has multiple addresses; using 66.94.234.13 traceroute to yahoo.com (66.94.234.13), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 * * * 2 bflo-shasta.choiceone.net (64.65.210.18) 9.287 ms 8.370 ms 8.410 ms 3 atm6-5-1007-roc-ext-cisco.choiceone.net (64.65.210.189) 10.356 ms 10.977 ms 10.731 ms 4 nycmny1wce2-pos5-0.wcg.net (65.77.98.81) 17.977 ms 17.984 ms 17.820 ms 5 nycmny2wcx3-pos11-2.wcg.net (64.200.68.101) 19.908 ms 17.984 ms 18.944 ms 6 nycmny2wcx2-pos0-0-oc192.wcg.net (64.200.68.157) 18.388 ms 18.392 ms 19.081 ms 7 hrndva1wcx2-pos1-0-oc192.wcg.net (64.200.210.178) 24.029 ms 25.348 ms 24.216 ms 8 washdc5lch1-pos4-1.wcg.net (64.200.89.138) 24.823 ms 24.943 ms 25.039 ms 9 washdc5lce1-yahoo-gige.wcg.net (64.200.95.58) 25.202 ms 25.426 ms 24.765 ms 10 ge-0-1-4.p149.pat2.pao.yahoo.com (216.115.96.32) 89.360 ms ge-0-0-4.p806.pat2.pao.yahoo.com (216.115.98.49) 96.354 ms 97.423 ms 11 ge-0-0-3.msr1.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.64.146) 89.193 ms ge-1-0-3.msr1.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.82.197) 96.712 ms ge-0-0-2.msr2.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.64.138) 90.338 ms 12 UNKNOWN-66-218-82-238.yahoo.com (66.218.82.238) 97.087 ms vl44.bas1-m.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.82.234) 89.781 ms 97.058 ms 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From kobear at sharedbrain.net Tue Mar 8 23:04:14 2005 From: kobear at sharedbrain.net (kobear@sharedbrain.net) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> References: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> Message-ID: <1110341054.422e75be47be5@webmail.sharedbrain.net> Where are you getting your DNS servers from? DHCP from Adelphia? If so, does your Winbloze box have a different set of DNS servers assigned via DHCP than your Linux box? Adelphia has DNS servers on at least two different class A networks in the WNY area. They could be having problems with one set (?) Quoting frank@mogosystems.com: > > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These are > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get them > to > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to > figure > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks, > Frank > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From frank at mogosystems.com Tue Mar 8 23:09:31 2005 From: frank at mogosystems.com (frank@mogosystems.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? Message-ID: <20050309040931.16424.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050309/c65304b8/attachment.ksh From robert_todd at adelphia.net Tue Mar 8 23:13:36 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? References: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> Message-ID: <009501c5245e$5e4a2390$640fa8c0@wolfe.local> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:51 PM Subject: Have I been hacked? > I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These > are > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get > them to > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to > figure > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? And to think when I was at home I did not have to answer anything like this :) Yes, folks, I DO work for Adelphia and I DO support their High Speed Internet product (formerly PowerLink). I do have Adelphia HSI myself (I work there so why wouldn't I? ) What distro of Linux are you running? Robert Wolfe, Adelphia Tier 1 Chat Tech Support Agent (and PROUD User/Supporter of Aurora Linux 1.0 on a Sparc Ultra 5 ) Buffalo APCC Buffalo, NY From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Wed Mar 9 11:28:55 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050309162855.36855.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> I have notice from time to time while running Firefox on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the status bar hangs page does not show. After I refresh page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if this is the same issue u are having. --- Robert Wolfe wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:51 PM > Subject: Have I been hacked? > > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites > "not being found." These > > are > > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 > - 4 times just to get > > them to > > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on > PowerLink. I am trying to > > figure > > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have > any ideas? > > And to think when I was at home I did not have to > answer anything like this > :) Yes, folks, I DO work for Adelphia and I DO > support their High Speed > Internet product (formerly PowerLink). I do have > Adelphia HSI myself (I > work there so why wouldn't I? ) What distro of > Linux are you running? > > Robert Wolfe, Adelphia Tier 1 Chat Tech Support > Agent (and PROUD > User/Supporter of Aurora Linux 1.0 on a Sparc Ultra > 5 ) > Buffalo APCC > Buffalo, NY > > > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From lobo519 at adelphia.net Wed Mar 9 12:09:00 2005 From: lobo519 at adelphia.net (Jim) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? References: <20050309162855.36855.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601c524ca$afff8740$0300a8c0@jim> "I have notice from time to time while running Firefox > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > status bar hangs page does not show. After I refresh > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if this > is the same issue u are having." I am having that same problem! It's annoying the crap out of me. Sorry I dont mean to takeover the subject. ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthonyriga" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Have I been hacked? > I have notice from time to time while running Firefox > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > status bar hangs page does not show. After I refresh > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if this > is the same issue u are having. > --- Robert Wolfe wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:51 PM > > Subject: Have I been hacked? > > > > > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites > > "not being found." These > > > are > > > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 > > - 4 times just to get > > > them to > > > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on > > PowerLink. I am trying to > > > figure > > > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have > > any ideas? > > > > And to think when I was at home I did not have to > > answer anything like this > > :) Yes, folks, I DO work for Adelphia and I DO > > support their High Speed > > Internet product (formerly PowerLink). I do have > > Adelphia HSI myself (I > > work there so why wouldn't I? ) What distro of > > Linux are you running? > > > > Robert Wolfe, Adelphia Tier 1 Chat Tech Support > > Agent (and PROUD > > User/Supporter of Aurora Linux 1.0 on a Sparc Ultra > > 5 ) > > Buffalo APCC > > Buffalo, NY > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Wed Mar 9 12:58:53 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Firefox delays In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050309175853.70550.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> I never had the issue using Mozilla. Firefox on Win and Linux versions yes. I notoiced this the first time Firefox came out too.. What causes this delay? I have tried too the tweaks that can be done in the about config and still does the same. If I use Mozilla and Firefox at the same time the Mozilla browser reaches the web page before Fireox too. I am using Adelph DNS and have the ip in the /etc/resolv.cofig.. This happens at work too for me when I use Firefox on Win and VMware Linux.. --- Jim wrote: > "I have notice from time to time while running > Firefox > > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > > status bar hangs page does not show. After I > refresh > > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if > this > > is the same issue u are having." > > I am having that same problem! It's annoying the > crap out of me. Sorry > I dont mean to takeover the subject. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anthonyriga" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: Have I been hacked? > > > > I have notice from time to time while running > Firefox > > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > > status bar hangs page does not show. After I > refresh > > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if > this > > is the same issue u are having. > > --- Robert Wolfe wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:51 PM > > > Subject: Have I been hacked? > > > > > > > > > > I have been having a problem with certain > sites > > > "not being found." These > > > > are > > > > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it > takes 2 > > > - 4 times just to get > > > > them to > > > > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am > on > > > PowerLink. I am trying to > > > > figure > > > > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone > have > > > any ideas? > > > > > > And to think when I was at home I did not have > to > > > answer anything like this > > > :) Yes, folks, I DO work for Adelphia and I DO > > > support their High Speed > > > Internet product (formerly PowerLink). I do > have > > > Adelphia HSI myself (I > > > work there so why wouldn't I? ) What distro > of > > > Linux are you running? > > > > > > Robert Wolfe, Adelphia Tier 1 Chat Tech Support > > > Agent (and PROUD > > > User/Supporter of Aurora Linux 1.0 on a Sparc > Ultra > > > 5 ) > > > Buffalo APCC > > > Buffalo, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From robert_todd at adelphia.net Wed Mar 9 09:08:50 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Firefox delays In-Reply-To: <20050309175853.70550.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050309175853.70550.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200503090908.50262.robert_todd@adelphia.net> On Wednesday 09 March 2005 12:58, anthonyriga wrote: > I never had the issue using Mozilla. Firefox on Win > and Linux versions yes. I notoiced this the first time > Firefox came out too.. What causes this delay? I have > tried too the tweaks that can be done in the about > config and still does the same. If I use Mozilla and > Firefox at the same time the Mozilla browser reaches > the web page before Fireox too. I am using Adelph DNS > and have the ip in the /etc/resolv.cofig.. This > happens at work too for me when I use Firefox on Win > and VMware Linux.. Okay, after reading these messages, I, too, have realized that my better half and I both have these very same problems under Windows. However, I use Mozilla on my Aurora Linux box (the Sun Ultra 5 I have here at home) and do not see any problems with page loads whatsoever. From erek at nbtsc.org Wed Mar 9 18:21:53 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: OT: Rack mount cabinet Message-ID: <20050309232153.GB30099@nbtsc.org> Hi All, Does anyone know where I can find an inexpensive rack mount cabinet in the Buffalo area? It doesn't matter to me whether it is open or closed, it just needs to be free standing (not require to be bolted to anything for support) Thanks for the help. Regards, Erek -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It doesn't matter to me whether it is open or closed, it just needs to be free standing (not require to be bolted to anything for support) Thanks for the help. Regards, Erek From erek at nbtsc.org Wed Mar 9 20:19:59 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Rack mount cabinet In-Reply-To: <000801c52507$4f60f440$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> References: <20050309232153.GB30099@nbtsc.org> <000801c52507$4f60f440$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <20050310011957.GD30099@nbtsc.org> Mark, Since this won't be for mission critical or high-density servers, I'm basically looking for whatever someone has surplus. This is to organize the developement and other servers that we have in our office. It won't be filled for some time, so I don't anticipate cooling to be a problem. I'd prefer round holes. As of now, we're planning on having, a switch, a UPS, 2 generic 3U boxes, a 3U Proliant 1600, a Supermicro 1U box, and a Sun Ultra 10, for a total of 18 Units, so anything over 25U would be fine. 42U seems to be the standard size, so we'll most likely go with one like that and have plenty of ventilation space between the servers. Thanks for the help. Regards, Erek On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 07:22:57PM -0500, Mark Musone wrote: > what size? 42U? what cooling, front to back or top to bottom? > What type of servers will be in it? also, do you need round or square hole? > > -Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Erek > Dyskant > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:22 PM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: OT: Rack mount cabinet > > Hi All, > Does anyone know where I can find an inexpensive rack mount > cabinet in the Buffalo area? > It doesn't matter to me whether it is open or closed, it just > needs to be free standing (not require to be bolted to anything for > support) > Thanks for the help. > > Regards, > Erek > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com Thu Mar 10 10:10:20 2005 From: dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com (Dennis Ruzeski) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: OpenLDAP references Message-ID: Greetings, all- Here's my situation. We've gotten to the point here where there's a need for central authentication for our developers. Rather than set up NIS+ or try to use our M$ Active Directory, we're setting up an LDAP server. No problem. The server and database is set up properly and I can use authconfig to make the linux systems point to it. The problem is in the details- User home directories, for example. I know I don't need a copy on every box- How do I get it to be available on the logged-in system? What I'm looking for is a decent reference on how to set up the stuff that authconfig doesn't (pam, home directories, email, etc....) TIA, Dennis From dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com Thu Mar 10 10:17:33 2005 From: dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com (Dennis Ruzeski) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- Message-ID: I'm curious about something-- How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? --Dennis From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 11:23:28 2005 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050310162329.83453.qmail@web53810.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I have used Linux in a corporate environment. A place that worked at had numberous Linux web/database servers and my desktop was linux. We also had corporate Email on Linux with windows and Linux clients. I'm not currently working in that environment but there are some places out there like this. Most of the people in the group fall into the home experimenter/small environment types. There aren't a lot of people with larger scale experience because there isn't a whole lot of companies around here using Linux in a large scale way. Cheers! Bob --- Dennis Ruzeski wrote: > I'm curious about something-- > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a > corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around > 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, > but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like > high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and > Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? > > --Dennis > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From yearke at eng.buffalo.edu Thu Mar 10 11:37:43 2005 From: yearke at eng.buffalo.edu (Dave Yearke) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- Message-ID: <200503101637.j2AGbhDg027278@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> > I'm curious about something-- > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a > corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? We use it widely here in UB's Science and Engineering Node. We have several large labs of Linux workstations, plus several moderately-sized compute clusters. We don't have very many Linux servers at present; our servers tend to still be mostly Sun Enterprise systems running Solaris, as they have proven to be stable and robust (some are almost seven years old, and still performing their jobs adequately). Another person on the NFLUG list, Jason Lasker, has built a full KickStart infrastructure, so we can install and upgrade systems quickly, efficiently, and consistently, and has customized RHEL3 in many clever ways to meet our particular needs. I've done quite a bit with hands-off and networked-based administration, using home-brewed scripts and utilities, and active maintenance on these systems is pretty low. Truthfully, our client/server environment has illuminated, at least to me, one of the few weaknesses of Linux: Some network services are not as well-developed as they are on other Unix-like operating systems. For example, the Linux automounter does not support direct mounts well or host-based mounts at all, and other network services will spontaneously stop responding. I suspect that this is because the focus of Linux development has been either on (a) standalone desktop systems, or (b) standalone servers doing things like serving web sites. I could be completely wrong, here, but that's my guess. > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around > 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, > but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like > high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and > Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? Jason and I would be happy to demonstrate some of the procedures and practices we use. We won't claim that they are necessarily the "best" ways, but they work well for us. Sometimes, we use surprisingly low-tech approaches to administration, because often times simple is better. By the way, I guess I'm _way_ in the minority on this list, but I don't think Windows "sucks" (please understand, I'm not singling you out, but I see a lot of comments like this on this list). I've been using and administering it for years, and despite its problems, it meets certain needs very well. In fact, we have a strong focus here on making Linux, Solaris, Windows, MacOS, and other operating systems play nice together, because they all meet certain needs and accomplish certain goals. We'd be happy to provide examples on some of this as well, if there's interest. For the last few months, for example, I've been using Cygwin on my Windows XP laptop, which gives a full Unix-like environment under Windows, complete with a full X Window environment (and GNOME on the way). -- Dave Yearke, yearke@eng.buffalo.edu "We are, after all, professionals" -- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 10 11:42:35 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <20050310162329.83453.qmail@web53810.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050310162329.83453.qmail@web53810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423078FB.7030600@thecybersource.com> Robert Meyer wrote: >Well, I have used Linux in a corporate environment. A place that worked at had >numberous Linux web/database servers and my desktop was linux. We also had >corporate Email on Linux with windows and Linux clients. I'm not currently >working in that environment but there are some places out there like this. > >Most of the people in the group fall into the home experimenter/small >environment types. There aren't a lot of people with larger scale experience >because there isn't a whole lot of companies around here using Linux in a large >scale way. > >Cheers! > >Bob >--- Dennis Ruzeski wrote: > > >>I'm curious about something-- >> >>How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a >>corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? >> >>I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around >>'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, >>but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like >>high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and >>Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? >> >>--Dennis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > We have been steadily working on our clients with Linux in the workplace. They all start out with Linux as SMB, Email, Intranet servers, then I gradually work in the workstations and with the help of VMware, I can let the workstations do there windows stuff and at the same time with a click of a mouse, do there email and web stuff in Linux, for more security, etc. It's a formula that's been building and building with great success. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com Thu Mar 10 11:41:23 2005 From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- Message-ID: I essentially use linux in the corporate/enterprise environment, for a large portion of our Network Monitoring System (NMS), as opposed to the home/desktop realm. I do have a Linux server at home, and did have a Linux desktop for a while, but I eventually opted for another *NIX desktop environment - OSX. -Dan >>> dennisr@corp.kanoodle.com 03/10/05 10:17 AM >>> I'm curious about something-- How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? --Dennis From chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com Thu Mar 10 11:46:48 2005 From: chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com (Charles H. Root, III) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Gang, In less than three years, the Unix/Linux installed base at ASG has grown from zero to: 15% of all workstations 25% of all data system servers 60% of dialer system I've always preached a technology agnostic philosophy... Don't drink the kool-aid and don't take the pill. Otherwise you will find yourself blindly worshiping at the temple of IBM, Microsoft, Sun or whomever. Even worse, you may become trapped by a proprietary system that is painful to leave. My approach has always been "the right tool for the right job at the right price." Here's some of what we are doing with Open Source. Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out Linux based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and the Citrix client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use old computers, and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. I've saved the company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on PCS. Almost $100K in one year. Our CFO loves me! All DNS, FTP and web functionality have been migrated to Red hat 8 and Fedora Core 3. We have built an HP WebJetAdmin server running Red Hat 8 that monitors all printers across the enterprise. If a printer gets a paper jam, is low on paper, toner or has any type of error it automatically e-mails my Help Desk team. When you empower yourself to be proactive, you can stay ahead of the support curve and fix problems, often times, before your users know there is an issue. Since we receive e-mail alerts, sometimes our techs show up just as a user says something like "Hey, I was just about to call you!" Our user base thinks we are heroes! We also built a Near Line Storage (NLS) server running Red Hat 9 with Samba on an old server we had laying around. This unit contains seven folders... One for each day of the week. In addition to backing up all end user data to tape every night, another jobs copies that day's data into the appropriate folder on the NLS server. Now I have the last seven days of end user files backed up on a hard drive! If you send your backup tapes offsite to Iron Mountain or somewhere safe like we do, then you know it's a pain (and expensive) to recall a tape from storage when an end user blows up a spreadsheet and needs the file restored. When your Help Desk gets a call like this, you normally would tell them something like "I'll call you in four hours after we get the tape back and restore the file." With my solution, our Help Desk staff can restore the file from the NLS server during the support call! Thirty seconds versus four hours... The problem is solved before the end user hangs up! Again, our users think we are heroes! Phase two of our NLS plan is to make these folders available to end users in a read-only format that mirrors what they are allowed to see on our main file server. In this scenario, end users can restore their own files and never call the Help Desk. Oooh yeah... works for me! We are using a FreeBSD server to run scripts that accomplish scheduled tasks via telnet on an old legacy green screen system. We grabbed the source code for VNC and created our own application that lets us shadow end user sessions for QA and tech support purposes via a web based front end. My point is look at all of your business needs and see what makes the most sense. If you can utilize Open Source like we have at little or no expense, you can pull off some high visibility projects that make you look like a genius. The right tools for the right job at the right price! Good luck, Charles H. Root, III Chief Information Officer Account Solutions Group 205 Bryant Woods South Amherst, NY 14228-3609 v: 716.564.4991 f: 716.564.4331 www.accountsolutionsgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Dennis Ruzeski Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Poll of sorts- I'm curious about something-- How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? --Dennis This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. From chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com Thu Mar 10 11:46:48 2005 From: chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com (Charles H. Root, III) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Gang, In less than three years, the Unix/Linux installed base at ASG has grown from zero to: 15% of all workstations 25% of all data system servers 60% of dialer system I've always preached a technology agnostic philosophy... Don't drink the kool-aid and don't take the pill. Otherwise you will find yourself blindly worshiping at the temple of IBM, Microsoft, Sun or whomever. Even worse, you may become trapped by a proprietary system that is painful to leave. My approach has always been "the right tool for the right job at the right price." Here's some of what we are doing with Open Source. Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out Linux based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and the Citrix client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use old computers, and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. I've saved the company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on PCS. Almost $100K in one year. Our CFO loves me! All DNS, FTP and web functionality have been migrated to Red hat 8 and Fedora Core 3. We have built an HP WebJetAdmin server running Red Hat 8 that monitors all printers across the enterprise. If a printer gets a paper jam, is low on paper, toner or has any type of error it automatically e-mails my Help Desk team. When you empower yourself to be proactive, you can stay ahead of the support curve and fix problems, often times, before your users know there is an issue. Since we receive e-mail alerts, sometimes our techs show up just as a user says something like "Hey, I was just about to call you!" Our user base thinks we are heroes! We also built a Near Line Storage (NLS) server running Red Hat 9 with Samba on an old server we had laying around. This unit contains seven folders... One for each day of the week. In addition to backing up all end user data to tape every night, another jobs copies that day's data into the appropriate folder on the NLS server. Now I have the last seven days of end user files backed up on a hard drive! If you send your backup tapes offsite to Iron Mountain or somewhere safe like we do, then you know it's a pain (and expensive) to recall a tape from storage when an end user blows up a spreadsheet and needs the file restored. When your Help Desk gets a call like this, you normally would tell them something like "I'll call you in four hours after we get the tape back and restore the file." With my solution, our Help Desk staff can restore the file from the NLS server during the support call! Thirty seconds versus four hours... The problem is solved before the end user hangs up! Again, our users think we are heroes! Phase two of our NLS plan is to make these folders available to end users in a read-only format that mirrors what they are allowed to see on our main file server. In this scenario, end users can restore their own files and never call the Help Desk. Oooh yeah... works for me! We are using a FreeBSD server to run scripts that accomplish scheduled tasks via telnet on an old legacy green screen system. We grabbed the source code for VNC and created our own application that lets us shadow end user sessions for QA and tech support purposes via a web based front end. My point is look at all of your business needs and see what makes the most sense. If you can utilize Open Source like we have at little or no expense, you can pull off some high visibility projects that make you look like a genius. The right tools for the right job at the right price! Good luck, Charles H. Root, III Chief Information Officer Account Solutions Group 205 Bryant Woods South Amherst, NY 14228-3609 v: 716.564.4991 f: 716.564.4331 www.accountsolutionsgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Dennis Ruzeski Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Poll of sorts- I'm curious about something-- How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? --Dennis This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 12:23:14 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2af2a0db05031009235253b3b4@mail.gmail.com> i use linux on my desktop and on my personal colo server On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:46:48 -0500, Charles H. Root, III wrote: > Hey Gang, > > In less than three years, the Unix/Linux installed base at ASG has grown > from zero to: > > 15% of all workstations > 25% of all data system servers > 60% of dialer system > > I've always preached a technology agnostic philosophy... Don't drink the > kool-aid and don't take the pill. Otherwise you will find yourself blindly > worshiping at the temple of IBM, Microsoft, Sun or whomever. Even worse, you > may become trapped by a proprietary system that is painful to leave. My > approach has always been "the right tool for the right job at the right > price." > > Here's some of what we are doing with Open Source. > > Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out Linux > based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and the Citrix > client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use old computers, > and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. I've saved the > company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on PCS. Almost $100K in > one year. Our CFO loves me! > > All DNS, FTP and web functionality have been migrated to Red hat 8 and > Fedora Core 3. > > We have built an HP WebJetAdmin server running Red Hat 8 that monitors all > printers across the enterprise. If a printer gets a paper jam, is low on > paper, toner or has any type of error it automatically e-mails my Help Desk > team. When you empower yourself to be proactive, you can stay ahead of the > support curve and fix problems, often times, before your users know there is > an issue. Since we receive e-mail alerts, sometimes our techs show up just > as a user says something like "Hey, I was just about to call you!" Our user > base thinks we are heroes! > > We also built a Near Line Storage (NLS) server running Red Hat 9 with Samba > on an old server we had laying around. This unit contains seven folders... > One for each day of the week. In addition to backing up all end user data to > tape every night, another jobs copies that day's data into the appropriate > folder on the NLS server. Now I have the last seven days of end user files > backed up on a hard drive! > > If you send your backup tapes offsite to Iron Mountain or somewhere safe > like we do, then you know it's a pain (and expensive) to recall a tape from > storage when an end user blows up a spreadsheet and needs the file restored. > When your Help Desk gets a call like this, you normally would tell them > something like "I'll call you in four hours after we get the tape back and > restore the file." > > With my solution, our Help Desk staff can restore the file from the NLS > server during the support call! Thirty seconds versus four hours... The > problem is solved before the end user hangs up! Again, our users think we > are heroes! > > Phase two of our NLS plan is to make these folders available to end users in > a read-only format that mirrors what they are allowed to see on our main > file server. In this scenario, end users can restore their own files and > never call the Help Desk. Oooh yeah... works for me! > > We are using a FreeBSD server to run scripts that accomplish scheduled tasks > via telnet on an old legacy green screen system. > > We grabbed the source code for VNC and created our own application that lets > us shadow end user sessions for QA and tech support purposes via a web based > front end. > > My point is look at all of your business needs and see what makes the most > sense. If you can utilize Open Source like we have at little or no expense, > you can pull off some high visibility projects that make you look like a > genius. > > The right tools for the right job at the right price! > > Good luck, > > Charles H. Root, III > Chief Information Officer > > Account Solutions Group > 205 Bryant Woods South > Amherst, NY 14228-3609 > > v: 716.564.4991 > f: 716.564.4331 > > www.accountsolutionsgroup.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > Dennis Ruzeski > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: Poll of sorts- > > I'm curious about something-- > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a > corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around > 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows > sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like > high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and > Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like > this? > > --Dennis > > This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 12:25:09 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: <000601c524ca$afff8740$0300a8c0@jim> References: <20050309162855.36855.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> <000601c524ca$afff8740$0300a8c0@jim> Message-ID: <2af2a0db0503100925569bf2e7@mail.gmail.com> i have the same problem off and on in slackware and fc3 but if i use an ip it works like normal; On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:09:00 -0500, Jim wrote: > "I have notice from time to time while running Firefox > > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > > status bar hangs page does not show. After I refresh > > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if this > > is the same issue u are having." > > I am having that same problem! It's annoying the crap out of me. Sorry > I dont mean to takeover the subject. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anthonyriga" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: Have I been hacked? > > > I have notice from time to time while running Firefox > > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > > status bar hangs page does not show. After I refresh > > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if this > > is the same issue u are having. > > --- Robert Wolfe wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:51 PM > > > Subject: Have I been hacked? > > > > > > > > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites > > > "not being found." These > > > > are > > > > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 > > > - 4 times just to get > > > > them to > > > > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on > > > PowerLink. I am trying to > > > > figure > > > > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have > > > any ideas? > > > > > > And to think when I was at home I did not have to > > > answer anything like this > > > :) Yes, folks, I DO work for Adelphia and I DO > > > support their High Speed > > > Internet product (formerly PowerLink). I do have > > > Adelphia HSI myself (I > > > work there so why wouldn't I? ) What distro of > > > Linux are you running? > > > > > > Robert Wolfe, Adelphia Tier 1 Chat Tech Support > > > Agent (and PROUD > > > User/Supporter of Aurora Linux 1.0 on a Sparc Ultra > > > 5 ) > > > Buffalo APCC > > > Buffalo, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 10 12:29:51 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4230840F.3090508@thecybersource.com> Charles H. Root, III wrote: >Hey Gang, > >In less than three years, the Unix/Linux installed base at ASG has grown >from zero to: > >15% of all workstations >25% of all data system servers >60% of dialer system > >I've always preached a technology agnostic philosophy... Don't drink the >kool-aid and don't take the pill. Otherwise you will find yourself blindly >worshiping at the temple of IBM, Microsoft, Sun or whomever. Even worse, you >may become trapped by a proprietary system that is painful to leave. My >approach has always been "the right tool for the right job at the right >price." > >Here's some of what we are doing with Open Source. > >Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out Linux >based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and the Citrix >client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use old computers, >and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. I've saved the >company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on PCS. Almost $100K in >one year. Our CFO loves me! > >All DNS, FTP and web functionality have been migrated to Red hat 8 and >Fedora Core 3. > >We have built an HP WebJetAdmin server running Red Hat 8 that monitors all >printers across the enterprise. If a printer gets a paper jam, is low on >paper, toner or has any type of error it automatically e-mails my Help Desk >team. When you empower yourself to be proactive, you can stay ahead of the >support curve and fix problems, often times, before your users know there is >an issue. Since we receive e-mail alerts, sometimes our techs show up just >as a user says something like "Hey, I was just about to call you!" Our user >base thinks we are heroes! > >We also built a Near Line Storage (NLS) server running Red Hat 9 with Samba >on an old server we had laying around. This unit contains seven folders... >One for each day of the week. In addition to backing up all end user data to >tape every night, another jobs copies that day's data into the appropriate >folder on the NLS server. Now I have the last seven days of end user files >backed up on a hard drive! > >If you send your backup tapes offsite to Iron Mountain or somewhere safe >like we do, then you know it's a pain (and expensive) to recall a tape from >storage when an end user blows up a spreadsheet and needs the file restored. >When your Help Desk gets a call like this, you normally would tell them >something like "I'll call you in four hours after we get the tape back and >restore the file." > >With my solution, our Help Desk staff can restore the file from the NLS >server during the support call! Thirty seconds versus four hours... The >problem is solved before the end user hangs up! Again, our users think we >are heroes! > >Phase two of our NLS plan is to make these folders available to end users in >a read-only format that mirrors what they are allowed to see on our main >file server. In this scenario, end users can restore their own files and >never call the Help Desk. Oooh yeah... works for me! > >We are using a FreeBSD server to run scripts that accomplish scheduled tasks >via telnet on an old legacy green screen system. > >We grabbed the source code for VNC and created our own application that lets >us shadow end user sessions for QA and tech support purposes via a web based >front end. > >My point is look at all of your business needs and see what makes the most >sense. If you can utilize Open Source like we have at little or no expense, >you can pull off some high visibility projects that make you look like a >genius. > >The right tools for the right job at the right price! > >Good luck, > >Charles H. Root, III >Chief Information Officer > >Account Solutions Group >205 Bryant Woods South >Amherst, NY 14228-3609 > >v: 716.564.4991 >f: 716.564.4331 > >www.accountsolutionsgroup.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of >Dennis Ruzeski >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: Poll of sorts- > > >I'm curious about something-- > >How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a >corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > >I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around >'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows >sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like >high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and >Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like >this? > >--Dennis > > > > > >This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. > > Sounds like really great stuff. Love to hear stuff like this, Congrats! -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From mckimt at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 12:33:17 2005 From: mckimt at yahoo.com (Tom McKim) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050310173318.937.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Charles H. Root, III" wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are > now rolling out Linux > based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X > Windows and the Citrix > client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy > or use old computers, > and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License > fee. I've saved the > company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on > PCS. Almost $100K in > one year. Our CFO loves me! Do you have any information on the Licensing? I have been trying to get answers on this. I asked the two vendors that we're selling it to me and I spoke to a licenseing rep at Microsoft. It's been over a year so but I recall them saying that if you are going to be using Terminal Services with or with out CITRIX, you need a terminal service license per client. That is a no-brainer so I purchased 40 Termainal Service Licenses to go along with the 40 Citrix Liceneses. I was also told if you are going to be connecting from a Non-Windows 2000 (NT4, Win 98, Linux) then you need to pay for a Windows 2000 License per box. On top of that you would need a license for each client for office. Tom McKim, MCSE Network Administrator Niagara Chocolates 3500 Genesee Street Buffalo, New York 14225 tmckim@niagarachocolates.com mckimt@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Thu Mar 10 12:45:39 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:33 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <423087C3.1000308@Dynabrade.com> Almost all of our servers are Linux, we have a few (2) windows servers for certain apps EDI, ect. but all Email, File, Web, database, ldap, domain controller, ect servers are linux. We still use windows desktops primarily NT/2000 a little XP. Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/10/2005 10:17 AM, Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >I'm curious about something-- > >How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > >I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? > >--Dennis > > > > > > From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Thu Mar 10 12:56:41 2005 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42308A59.9060806@cognigencorp.com> we use linux for about 90% of our infratructure at cognigen with the exception of a few services like nfs/smb, NIS+, oracle, X Logins, some statistical apps, and 25 node compute cluster. these are currently on solaris but i'll be moving oracle, and the cluster to linux by summer, NIS+ to eDirectory on linux by the end of the year hopefully. Dennis Ruzeski wrote: > I'm curious about something-- > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use > it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for > desktop/home use? > > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more > around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since > Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving > around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for > performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else > that would like to do things like this? > > --Dennis > > > > -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From johnseth at phoenixwing.com Thu Mar 10 13:31:43 2005 From: johnseth at phoenixwing.com (John Seth) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4230928F.2090805@phoenixwing.com> I work for a local ISP, and well, our whole shop is 95% Linux. The other 5% is: Tech Support desktops (Windows XP), one Mac OS9/OSX system, three windows web servers/clusters, and a rack of SunOS systems for our VoIP stuff. Most of our systems are RedHat 7+, and I've been moving some systems over to Slackware as we upgrade old systems. I also have two boxes at home, my server runs Slackware 10.1 with a slew of services on it (Web, DNS, Email, FTP, Samba, etc) and my desktop is dual boot Fedora Core 3/Windows XP Pro. - Tony Evans Dennis Ruzeski wrote: > I'm curious about something-- > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? > > --Dennis > > > > > > From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 13:48:37 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050310184837.22368.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> When was working for Advance 2000 we were pushing linux on the backend for our clients. Testing stuff on the Desktop too. Most of us ran it on our laptops. We also ran all of our DNS at Advance too on Linux. Our Alkatel phone systems routers were also Linux based.. My girlfriend works for Center for Plastic surgery and the are runing Medent on Win XP boxes and Redhat Adv server on the backend. They moved most of their data which needs to be hippa comliant off SCO to Linux.. --- Darin Perusich wrote: > we use linux for about 90% of our infratructure at > cognigen with the > exception of a few services like nfs/smb, NIS+, > oracle, X Logins, some > statistical apps, and 25 node compute cluster. these > are currently on > solaris but i'll be moving oracle, and the cluster > to linux by summer, > NIS+ to eDirectory on linux by the end of the year > hopefully. > > Dennis Ruzeski wrote: > > I'm curious about something-- > > > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on > the list that use > > it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it > more for > > desktop/home use? > > > > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they > seem to center more > > around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', > which is great since > > Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting > topics revolving > > around things like high-volume system > administration, tuning for > > performance and uptime, and Linux in the > enterprise. Anybody else > > that would like to do things like this? > > > > --Dennis > > > > > > > > > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Systems Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ebenoit at hopevale.com Thu Mar 10 15:03:08 2005 From: ebenoit at hopevale.com (Eric) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <20050310184837.22368.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050310184837.22368.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4230A7FC.1050704@hopevale.com> I work at a small high school where they could not afford many MS products or user licenses for e-mail and other server/client users, so I have constructed some linux servers for them. ...I should actually be more precise in saying I use a great deal of GNU apps on top of linux. I believe I may, in the future, have to put linux as a desktop here ...just wish "wine" was more advanced. anthonyriga wrote: >When was working for Advance 2000 we were pushing >linux on the backend for our clients. Testing stuff on >the Desktop too. Most of us ran it on our laptops. We >also ran all of our DNS at Advance too on Linux. Our >Alkatel phone systems routers were also Linux based.. >My girlfriend works for Center for Plastic surgery and >the are runing Medent on Win XP boxes and Redhat Adv >server on the backend. They moved most of their data >which needs to be hippa comliant off SCO to Linux.. >--- Darin Perusich >wrote: > > >>we use linux for about 90% of our infratructure at >>cognigen with the >>exception of a few services like nfs/smb, NIS+, >>oracle, X Logins, some >>statistical apps, and 25 node compute cluster. these >>are currently on >>solaris but i'll be moving oracle, and the cluster >>to linux by summer, >>NIS+ to eDirectory on linux by the end of the year >>hopefully. >> >>Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >> >> >>>I'm curious about something-- >>> >>>How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on >>> >>> >>the list that use >> >> >>>it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it >>> >>> >>more for >> >> >>>desktop/home use? >>> >>>I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they >>> >>> >>seem to center more >> >> >>>around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', >>> >>> >>which is great since >> >> >>>Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting >>> >>> >>topics revolving >> >> >>>around things like high-volume system >>> >>> >>administration, tuning for >> >> >>>performance and uptime, and Linux in the >>> >>> >>enterprise. Anybody else >> >> >>>that would like to do things like this? >>> >>>--Dennis >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Darin Perusich >>Unix Systems Administrator >>Cognigen Corp. >>darinper@cognigencorp.com >> >> >> > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 10 15:32:50 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <4230A7FC.1050704@hopevale.com> References: <20050310184837.22368.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> <4230A7FC.1050704@hopevale.com> Message-ID: <4230AEF2.1040301@thecybersource.com> Eric wrote: > I work at a small high school where they could not afford many MS > products or user licenses for e-mail and other server/client users, so > I have constructed some linux servers for them. ...I should actually > be more precise in saying I use a great deal of GNU apps on top of linux. > > I believe I may, in the future, have to put linux as a desktop here > ...just wish "wine" was more advanced. > > > anthonyriga wrote: > >> When was working for Advance 2000 we were pushing >> linux on the backend for our clients. Testing stuff on >> the Desktop too. Most of us ran it on our laptops. We >> also ran all of our DNS at Advance too on Linux. Our >> Alkatel phone systems routers were also Linux based.. >> My girlfriend works for Center for Plastic surgery and >> the are runing Medent on Win XP boxes and Redhat Adv >> server on the backend. They moved most of their data >> which needs to be hippa comliant off SCO to Linux.. --- Darin >> Perusich >> wrote: >> >> >>> we use linux for about 90% of our infratructure at >>> cognigen with the exception of a few services like nfs/smb, NIS+, >>> oracle, X Logins, some statistical apps, and 25 node compute >>> cluster. these >>> are currently on solaris but i'll be moving oracle, and the cluster >>> to linux by summer, NIS+ to eDirectory on linux by the end of the year >>> hopefully. >>> >>> Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm curious about something-- >>>> >>>> How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on >>>> >>> >>> the list that use >>> >>> >>>> it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it >>>> >>> >>> more for >>> >>> >>>> desktop/home use? >>>> >>>> I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they >>>> >>> >>> seem to center more >>> >>> >>>> around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', >>>> >>> >>> which is great since >>> >>> >>>> Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting >>>> >>> >>> topics revolving >>> >>> >>>> around things like high-volume system >>>> >>> >>> administration, tuning for >>> >>> >>>> performance and uptime, and Linux in the >>>> >>> >>> enterprise. Anybody else >>> >>> >>>> that would like to do things like this? >>>> >>>> --Dennis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Darin Perusich >>> Unix Systems Administrator >>> Cognigen Corp. >>> darinper@cognigencorp.com >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> If you need "wine" stuff, try VMware, it's worth every penny if your stuck in M$ stuff. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From dmangani at adelphia.net Thu Mar 10 15:38:17 2005 From: dmangani at adelphia.net (Dave Mangani) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4230B039.5070100@adelphia.net> Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >I'm curious about something-- > >How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > >I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? > >--Dennis > > > > > > > Hi all, I suppose I am somewhat of a different user here on the group. I work as an electrical substation electrician for one of the 2 main electrical utilities in the area. At work I have no connection what so ever with "IT" or "IT systems". I have however taken many computer courses over the years because it is an interest/hobby of mine. I started out in high school using an old acoustic modem to connect to the school districts mainframe and play a hunt the wumpus type adventure game! By the way... no monitor, only a loud old dot matrix printer as output. From there on to TI-99/4A, atari,commadore, Tandy etc...I began using linux about 18 months ago after following it via reviews/previews in magazines. I use linux at home in a stricktly desktop/workstation environment. I enjoy the challenge of getting things to "work". I find it mentally invigorating and rewarding. I love using linux and learning interesting new uses and techniques for reaching my "goals". I'm sure that my "goals" are fairly limited and basic but I feel very good when I can get my DVD's to play, or figure out how to convert audio file formats or even set up a shared partition with my windows machine. Getting my palm pilot to sync was a big deal for me. God knows why as I don't really use my palm pilot. I suppose, just to see if I could get it to "work" ( I still use windows for games :-) ). Alot of the areas discussed on this group are far above my level of understanding. Alot of the items discussed I may never use or need to know, but it is still knowledge and there have been many times that this goup has had some super tips for a user like me. Thanks for this wonderful outlet and resource. I know I for one appreciate all the knowledge you guys freely share. Dave From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 10 15:57:05 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <200503101637.j2AGbhDg027278@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> References: <200503101637.j2AGbhDg027278@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <4230B4A1.4060905@thecybersource.com> Dave Yearke wrote: >>I'm curious about something-- >> >>How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a >>corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? >> >> > >We use it widely here in UB's Science and Engineering Node. We have several >large labs of Linux workstations, plus several moderately-sized compute >clusters. We don't have very many Linux servers at present; our servers tend to >still be mostly Sun Enterprise systems running Solaris, as they have proven to >be stable and robust (some are almost seven years old, and still performing >their jobs adequately). Another person on the NFLUG list, Jason Lasker, has >built a full KickStart infrastructure, so we can install and upgrade systems >quickly, efficiently, and consistently, and has customized RHEL3 in many clever >ways to meet our particular needs. I've done quite a bit with hands-off and >networked-based administration, using home-brewed scripts and utilities, and >active maintenance on these systems is pretty low. > >Truthfully, our client/server environment has illuminated, at least to me, one >of the few weaknesses of Linux: Some network services are not as well-developed >as they are on other Unix-like operating systems. For example, the Linux >automounter does not support direct mounts well or host-based mounts at all, and >other network services will spontaneously stop responding. I suspect that this >is because the focus of Linux development has been either on (a) standalone >desktop systems, or (b) standalone servers doing things like serving web sites. >I could be completely wrong, here, but that's my guess. > > > >>I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around >>'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, >>but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like >>high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and >>Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? >> >> > >Jason and I would be happy to demonstrate some of the procedures and practices >we use. We won't claim that they are necessarily the "best" ways, but they work >well for us. Sometimes, we use surprisingly low-tech approaches to >administration, because often times simple is better. > >By the way, I guess I'm _way_ in the minority on this list, but I don't think >Windows "sucks" (please understand, I'm not singling you out, but I see a lot of >comments like this on this list). I've been using and administering it for >years, and despite its problems, it meets certain needs very well. In fact, we >have a strong focus here on making Linux, Solaris, Windows, MacOS, and other >operating systems play nice together, because they all meet certain needs and >accomplish certain goals. We'd be happy to provide examples on some of this as >well, if there's interest. For the last few months, for example, I've been using >Cygwin on my Windows XP laptop, which gives a full Unix-like environment under >Windows, complete with a full X Window environment (and GNOME on the way). > > > I gotta chime in on the "windows sucks" thing, and this is just a general observation, not directed at you specifically. I think I can safely speak for a few people that the term "windows sucks" can and does mean way more that the operating system itself. I myself try not to use such generalizations but I have, in my frustration of "trying to make different os's play nice", been know to blurt out such things, as well as a few expletives, lol. And it's ALWAYS the attitude and resulting products of M$ that manage to purposely not play nice. As a publicly traded company, M$ has an obligation to earn a profit but the methods are certainly questionable, I don't need to go on about this, you all know this. I just wanted to point out the practices of another publicly traded company, RedHat. How ingenious was there Fedora project and concept?! They too have an obligation to earn a profit for there share holders and with a public beta like Fedora, they can use the public at large to put new ideas and code to test, pulling out proven methods for there sold software. If you want something polished, you pay for it and they back it up with support. Fedora is now always between the top 2 Linux distros and is a great distro to stay on top of the newest stuff. Someday someone will come up with a way to use copyrights in the 21st century on music, etc., they old ways no longer apply, i.e. the days of col parkers are over. I see RedHat as taking a huge stride forward in the way software is dealt with in the 21st century, I think it will be a model to follow, we'll see. Just my 2cents.. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From lasker at eng.buffalo.edu Thu Mar 10 16:09:23 2005 From: lasker at eng.buffalo.edu (Jason Lasker) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <4230AEF2.1040301@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <200503102109.j2AL9WDg012152@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> In our experience VWware is a good solution for individual user workstations with at least 1GB of RAM that need to run high performance applications. When you start to deploy it on a larger scale (ex in labs) it becomes problematic: 1. The don't use floating licenses. This is a problem because each user must have the license code in their home directory. 2. Difficult to lock down, users can modify the VM and the environment. 3. If you use snap shots to protect the disk image performance goes down. 4. The license file is stored in plain text. 5. Unless you buy at least 50 licenses you get individual codes for each workstation. How we got around it. We run VMware in 5 labs (about 150 machines). 1. Custom scripts to install the .vmware directory and virtual machine configs to each user when they fire up the app. 2. Lock down the XP environment with VMWare to reduce the ability to change it. 3. Put the VM disk file on a partition with limited space and limit the size of /tmp to reduce people ability to create own VMs Funny thing about this is the Windows Host version of the software is much more advanced as far as locking people out of the configuration options. We have talked to VMware about these issues but they did not seem care about it. They are much more fused on their higher end server virtualization products. If you are just running basic applications like office and not higher end science and engineering stuff like AutoCAD, then a better solution as far as manageability is Terminal/Citrix server. Vmware Academic costs about $125/per seat with $25/year maintenance, you also need a license for the version of the OS (and the software on it) you are running in your virtual machine. So you don't get something for nothing here.... I am not bashing Vmware... I think it is a good product when used in the right situation... it just doesn't scale well... That's where Terminal Server/Citrix works well. In an environment where budgets are tight you are better off looking for cheaper GNU alternatives like OpenOffice etc.... Your mileage may vary..... Jason Lasker Senior Programmer Analyst/Systems Administrator University at Buffalo Science and Engineering Node Services 113 Bell Hall Buffalo, NY 14260-2050 Voice 716-645-3797 x2172 Fax 716-645-3704 email mailto:lasker@eng.buffalo.edu -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Cyber Source Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:33 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Poll of sorts- Eric wrote: > I work at a small high school where they could not afford many MS > products or user licenses for e-mail and other server/client users, so > I have constructed some linux servers for them. ...I should actually > be more precise in saying I use a great deal of GNU apps on top of linux. > > I believe I may, in the future, have to put linux as a desktop here > ...just wish "wine" was more advanced. > > > anthonyriga wrote: > >> When was working for Advance 2000 we were pushing linux on the >> backend for our clients. Testing stuff on the Desktop too. Most of us >> ran it on our laptops. We also ran all of our DNS at Advance too on >> Linux. Our Alkatel phone systems routers were also Linux based.. >> My girlfriend works for Center for Plastic surgery and the are runing >> Medent on Win XP boxes and Redhat Adv server on the backend. They >> moved most of their data >> which needs to be hippa comliant off SCO to Linux.. --- Darin >> Perusich >> wrote: >> >> >>> we use linux for about 90% of our infratructure at cognigen with the >>> exception of a few services like nfs/smb, NIS+, oracle, X Logins, >>> some statistical apps, and 25 node compute cluster. these are >>> currently on solaris but i'll be moving oracle, and the cluster to >>> linux by summer, NIS+ to eDirectory on linux by the end of the year >>> hopefully. >>> >>> Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm curious about something-- >>>> >>>> How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on >>>> >>> >>> the list that use >>> >>> >>>> it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it >>>> >>> >>> more for >>> >>> >>>> desktop/home use? >>>> >>>> I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they >>>> >>> >>> seem to center more >>> >>> >>>> around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', >>>> >>> >>> which is great since >>> >>> >>>> Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting >>>> >>> >>> topics revolving >>> >>> >>>> around things like high-volume system >>>> >>> >>> administration, tuning for >>> >>> >>>> performance and uptime, and Linux in the >>>> >>> >>> enterprise. Anybody else >>> >>> >>>> that would like to do things like this? >>>> >>>> --Dennis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Darin Perusich >>> Unix Systems Administrator >>> Cognigen Corp. >>> darinper@cognigencorp.com >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> If you need "wine" stuff, try VMware, it's worth every penny if your stuck in M$ stuff. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From mmusone at shatterit.com Thu Mar 10 16:40:04 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Announcement (Was: Poll of sorts) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c525b9$b8992970$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Dennis, Since you broached the subject, it's a little earlier than I was planning but I figure no time like now.. I have myself also seen a need for what you are asking for, hence: I am announcing a new linux users group. The group is the Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group. http://www.bplug.org The user group is focused on the use of Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a corporate solution set. We disseminate practical information and proven solutions from IT professionals who have successfully tackled a wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. It's a rare opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers from companies that are both local and national. Unlike other Linux User Groups, our meetings are structured and have presentations and speakers focused on using Linux solutions on an enterprise level. Our meetings are held from 6pm-9pm on the last Thursday of each month. The location may vary, as "road trips" and visits to companies using Linux in the enterprise is encouraged. Newcomers to Linux are always welcome, however the meetings will be based on Professional I.T. members looking for ways to enhance their Linux solutions or looking to move to Linux solutions. If anyone is interested in attending the next meeting or contributing, please let me know. Thanks, Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Ruzeski Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Poll of sorts- I'm curious about something-- How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? --Dennis From kennethlawson2000 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 19:19:26 2005 From: kennethlawson2000 at yahoo.com (Kenneth Lawson) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Mozillia In-Reply-To: <200503102109.j2AL9WDg012152@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All; I have a mozillia problem. I need to block a certian site to keep my daughter from it so ahe actually doses the homework she susposed to be doing. I can't find a way to block a cetian ip address or site name. Is there a plug-in or add-on to allow me to block sites. Thanks Ken Ken & Nancy Lawson You may now see Our Pictures at http://www.civilwarimpressions.com and From josephj at main.nc.us Thu Mar 10 20:01:47 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <4230B4A1.4060905@thecybersource.com> References: <200503101637.j2AGbhDg027278@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> <4230B4A1.4060905@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <4230EDFB.1080003@main.nc.us> I've been interested in Unix ever since I started learning C from Thompson & Ritchie's books (long ago). For a long time, I was the chief, cook, and bottle washer on a Unix System III at a bank. Now, I'm trying tenaciously to be an end user ;) I have Mandrake 9.1 (still rc2 because I think I'll screw things up if I upgrade myself.) and because, aside from a few font manager crashes, it works. I do web surfing, email, a bit of shell programming and some writing. I dual boot Win 98, but only for small specialty software packages that I don't use frequently. If I ever get around to getting a replacement for this old clunker, I'll use VMware because I need Dragon voice software and I'm totally hooked on Maximizer contact manager. I have no idea what distro I'll use. It just has to work with pilot-link. Joe Cyber Source wrote: > Dave Yearke wrote: > >>> I'm curious about something-- >>> >>> How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use >>> it in a >>> corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? >>> >> >> >> We use it widely here in UB's Science and Engineering Node. We have >> several large labs of Linux workstations, plus several >> moderately-sized compute clusters. We don't have very many Linux >> servers at present; our servers tend to still be mostly Sun >> Enterprise systems running Solaris, as they have proven to be stable >> and robust (some are almost seven years old, and still performing >> their jobs adequately). Another person on the NFLUG list, Jason >> Lasker, has built a full KickStart infrastructure, so we can install >> and upgrade systems quickly, efficiently, and consistently, and has >> customized RHEL3 in many clever ways to meet our particular needs. >> I've done quite a bit with hands-off and networked-based >> administration, using home-brewed scripts and utilities, and active >> maintenance on these systems is pretty low. >> >> Truthfully, our client/server environment has illuminated, at least >> to me, one of the few weaknesses of Linux: Some network services are >> not as well-developed as they are on other Unix-like operating >> systems. For example, the Linux automounter does not support direct >> mounts well or host-based mounts at all, and other network services >> will spontaneously stop responding. I suspect that this is because >> the focus of Linux development has been either on (a) standalone >> desktop systems, or (b) standalone servers doing things like serving >> web sites. I could be completely wrong, here, but that's my guess. >> >> >> >>> I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more >>> around >>> 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since >>> Windows sucks, >>> but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like >>> high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and >>> uptime, and >>> Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things >>> like this? >>> >> >> >> Jason and I would be happy to demonstrate some of the procedures and >> practices we use. We won't claim that they are necessarily the "best" >> ways, but they work well for us. Sometimes, we use surprisingly >> low-tech approaches to administration, because often times simple is >> better. >> >> By the way, I guess I'm _way_ in the minority on this list, but I >> don't think Windows "sucks" (please understand, I'm not singling you >> out, but I see a lot of comments like this on this list). I've been >> using and administering it for years, and despite its problems, it >> meets certain needs very well. In fact, we have a strong focus here >> on making Linux, Solaris, Windows, MacOS, and other operating systems >> play nice together, because they all meet certain needs and >> accomplish certain goals. We'd be happy to provide examples on some >> of this as well, if there's interest. For the last few months, for >> example, I've been using Cygwin on my Windows XP laptop, which gives >> a full Unix-like environment under Windows, complete with a full X >> Window environment (and GNOME on the way). >> >> >> > I gotta chime in on the "windows sucks" thing, and this is just a > general observation, not directed at you specifically. > I think I can safely speak for a few people that the term "windows > sucks" can and does mean way more that the operating system itself. > I myself try not to use such generalizations but I have, in my > frustration of "trying to make different os's play nice", been know to > blurt out such things, as well as a few expletives, lol. And it's > ALWAYS the attitude and resulting products of M$ that manage to > purposely not play nice. > As a publicly traded company, M$ has an obligation to earn a profit > but the methods are certainly questionable, I don't need to go on > about this, you all know this. > I just wanted to point out the practices of another publicly traded > company, RedHat. How ingenious was there Fedora project and concept?! > They too have an obligation to earn a profit for there share holders > and with a public beta like Fedora, they can use the public at large > to put new ideas and code to test, pulling out proven methods for > there sold software. If you want something polished, you pay for it > and they back it up with support. > Fedora is now always between the top 2 Linux distros and is a great > distro to stay on top of the newest stuff. > Someday someone will come up with a way to use copyrights in the 21st > century on music, etc., they old ways no longer apply, i.e. the days > of col parkers are over. > I see RedHat as taking a huge stride forward in the way software is > dealt with in the 21st century, I think it will be a model to follow, > we'll see. > Just my 2cents.. > -- "Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool" --Plato From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 10 21:40:44 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Mozillia In-Reply-To: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4231052C.506@thecybersource.com> Kenneth Lawson wrote: >Hi All; > > I have a mozillia problem. I need to block a certian site to >keep my daughter from it so ahe actually doses the homework she >susposed to be doing. > I can't find a way to block a cetian ip address or site name. Is >there a plug-in or add-on to allow me to block sites. > > > > Thanks Ken > >Ken & Nancy Lawson >You may now see Our Pictures at http://www.civilwarimpressions.com and > > You could put a bogus address in /etc/hosts or hosts(whatever it is on windows) so that the site in question would like go to 127.0.0.1 or something..... -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From keg at adelphia.net Thu Mar 10 22:58:36 2005 From: keg at adelphia.net (Kevin E. Glosser) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review Message-ID: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> Today, we posted our Cedega 4.2.1 review. You can check it out here... http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/staticpages/index.php?page=20050306045044463 Cedega is a commercial version of W.I.N.E. that allows you play Windows games in Linux. I tested it with World of Warcraft, Half-Life 2 and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Hope you enjoy it. KEG From hubbardr at adelphia.net Fri Mar 11 05:21:08 2005 From: hubbardr at adelphia.net (Richard Hubbard) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42317114.9090505@adelphia.net> Frank Kumro wrote: >I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to >the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount >it with > >sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ > >I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it >either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? > > > something else to keep in mind, some usb sticks have a 'write protect' switch. if you have one, make sure it is switched to the other position. (spoken as someone who is old enough to have too much experience with floppy disks!) From javabob at adelphia.net Fri Mar 11 06:13:24 2005 From: javabob at adelphia.net (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: OpenLDAP references In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42317D54.2050008@adelphia.net> Are your /home/ directories local or NFS mounted? What distro are you using? Are you using ACL's? I have a book you can borrow "Understanding and Deploying LDAP Directory Services". Its about 800 pages. You can also google for info. I found : http://www.ameritech.net/users/mhwood/ldap-sec-setup.html http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin22/slapdconfig.html#Access%20Control among others. Hope this helps. Bob Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >Greetings, all- > >Here's my situation. We've gotten to the point here where there's a need for central authentication for our developers. Rather than set up NIS+ or try to use our M$ Active Directory, we're setting up an LDAP server. >No problem. The server and database is set up properly and I can use authconfig to make the linux systems point to it. The problem is in the details- User home directories, for example. I know I don't need a copy on every box- How do I get it to be available on the logged-in system? What I'm looking for is a decent reference on how to set up the stuff that authconfig doesn't (pam, home directories, email, etc....) > >TIA, >Dennis > > > > > > From peter at thecybersource.com Fri Mar 11 08:24:18 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Announcement (Was: Poll of sorts) In-Reply-To: <000001c525b9$b8992970$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> References: <000001c525b9$b8992970$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <42319C02.7070707@thecybersource.com> Mark Musone wrote: >Dennis, > >Since you broached the subject, it's a little earlier than I was planning >but I figure no time like now.. > >I have myself also seen a need for what you are asking for, hence: > >I am announcing a new linux users group. The group is the Buffalo >Professional Linux Users Group. > >http://www.bplug.org > >The user group is focused on the use of Linux and Open Source in >professional business environments. We have organized presentations and >seminars, and bring up topics that are of interest to people that use or >would like to use Linux as part of a corporate solution set. We disseminate >practical information and proven solutions from IT professionals who have >successfully tackled a wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. >It's a rare opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers >from companies that are both local and national. > >Unlike other Linux User Groups, our meetings are structured and have >presentations and speakers focused on using Linux solutions on an enterprise >level. Our meetings are held from 6pm-9pm on the last Thursday of each >month. The location may vary, as "road trips" and visits to companies using >Linux in the enterprise is encouraged. > >Newcomers to Linux are always welcome, however the meetings will be based on >Professional I.T. members looking for ways to enhance their Linux solutions >or looking to move to Linux solutions. > >If anyone is interested in attending the next meeting or contributing, >please let me know. > >Thanks, > >Mark > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of >Dennis Ruzeski >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: Poll of sorts- > >I'm curious about something-- > >How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a >corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > >I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around >'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows >sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like >high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and >Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like >this? > >--Dennis > > > > > > > I might be interest in that Mark. Do you have an email list? -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From mmusone at shatterit.com Fri Mar 11 09:07:01 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Announcement (Was: Poll of sorts) In-Reply-To: <42319C02.7070707@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <001301c52643$98a2d640$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Yes, the email list is bplug@bplug.org. You can subscribe by sending an email to bplug-subscribe@bplug.org. -Mark >I might be interest in that Mark. Do you have an email list? >-- >cybersource.us >115 Richfield Road >Williamsville, New York 14221 >716-553-8525 From john at kegworks.com Fri Mar 11 09:14:23 2005 From: john at kegworks.com (John Nichel) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Mozillia In-Reply-To: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4231A7BF.1050304@kegworks.com> Kenneth Lawson wrote: > Hi All; > > I have a mozillia problem. I need to block a certian site to > keep my daughter from it so ahe actually doses the homework she > susposed to be doing. > I can't find a way to block a cetian ip address or site name. Is > there a plug-in or add-on to allow me to block sites. Cyber Source's suggestion is a good one (putting in /etc/hosts or Windows' host file). I set up my home network to where all the machines on it run thru a Linux gateway/router before going out to the net. Before either of my kids' machines are allowed to access a site, it checks to see if that site/ip address is listed as an allowed site (in a MySQL db that my wife and I can admin via a web interface). If it's not allowed, they're redirected the Apache server running on that box. This way, they have to come to us to get access to the site, and we can check it out first. -- John C. Nichel ?berGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 john@kegworks.com From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Fri Mar 11 09:29:48 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Mozillia In-Reply-To: <4231A7BF.1050304@kegworks.com> References: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> <4231A7BF.1050304@kegworks.com> Message-ID: <4231AB5C.1000802@Dynabrade.com> If you wanted to setup a squid proxy server on a linux box you can setup all kinds of access controll lists keyword,url, ip, ect. I believe you can even do acls by time no browsing between 8-9pm for example. Then you would setup mozilla to use the proxy settings of your new squid proxy server. Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/11/2005 9:14 AM, John Nichel wrote: > Kenneth Lawson wrote: > >> Hi All; >> >> I have a mozillia problem. I need to block a certian site to >> keep my daughter from it so ahe actually doses the homework she >> susposed to be doing. >> I can't find a way to block a cetian ip address or site name. Is >> there a plug-in or add-on to allow me to block sites. > > > Cyber Source's suggestion is a good one (putting in /etc/hosts or > Windows' host file). I set up my home network to where all the > machines on it run thru a Linux gateway/router before going out to the > net. Before either of my kids' machines are allowed to access a site, > it checks to see if that site/ip address is listed as an allowed site > (in a MySQL db that my wife and I can admin via a web interface). If > it's not allowed, they're redirected the Apache server running on that > box. This way, they have to come to us to get access to the site, and > we can check it out first. > From chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com Fri Mar 11 10:40:38 2005 From: chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com (Charles H. Root, III) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <20050310173318.937.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Gang: My VAR is Joe Manzella from PCI. He knows the complicated ins & outs of the Citrix licensing world quite well. Give him a shout at 856-7181. I'm sure he can assist you with your Citrix questions and needs. My understanding is this: The server side licensing is tricky. The client software residing on the workstation or thin client is free. In fact, you can go to http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/downloads.asp and freely download clients for pretty much any modern OS. I don't believe for a minute that you are required to purchase a Win2K license for MacOS, Linux, Win98 and NT4 clients that connect into a Citrix server. These vendors may not get it or are just trying to get you to spend money on something you don't need. Get another opinion... Call Joe. Good luck! chaz -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Tom McKim Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:33 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- --- "Charles H. Root, III" wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are > now rolling out Linux > based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X > Windows and the Citrix > client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy > or use old computers, > and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License > fee. I've saved the > company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on > PCS. Almost $100K in > one year. Our CFO loves me! Do you have any information on the Licensing? I have been trying to get answers on this. I asked the two vendors that we're selling it to me and I spoke to a licenseing rep at Microsoft. It's been over a year so but I recall them saying that if you are going to be using Terminal Services with or with out CITRIX, you need a terminal service license per client. That is a no-brainer so I purchased 40 Termainal Service Licenses to go along with the 40 Citrix Liceneses. I was also told if you are going to be connecting from a Non-Windows 2000 (NT4, Win 98, Linux) then you need to pay for a Windows 2000 License per box. On top of that you would need a license for each client for office. Tom McKim, MCSE Network Administrator Niagara Chocolates 3500 Genesee Street Buffalo, New York 14225 tmckim@niagarachocolates.com mckimt@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. From dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com Fri Mar 11 11:04:23 2005 From: dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com (Dennis Ruzeski) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Answer-- RE: OpenLDAP references Message-ID: I should have already known this, but O'Reilly to the rescue! The 'ferret' book, LDAP System Administration by Gerald Carter saved the day. Before you even think about setting up ldap, get this book and check out the following websites http://www.padl.com http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/ldap.htm http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/ldap-linux.htm The websites are great, but the book is the bomb.. --Dennis -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Dennis Ruzeski Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:10 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: OpenLDAP references Importance: Low Greetings, all- Here's my situation. We've gotten to the point here where there's a need for central authentication for our developers. Rather than set up NIS+ or try to use our M$ Active Directory, we're setting up an LDAP server. No problem. The server and database is set up properly and I can use authconfig to make the linux systems point to it. The problem is in the details- User home directories, for example. I know I don't need a copy on every box- How do I get it to be available on the logged-in system? What I'm looking for is a decent reference on how to set up the stuff that authconfig doesn't (pam, home directories, email, etc....) TIA, Dennis From josephj at main.nc.us Fri Mar 11 09:30:56 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: Konqueror problem Message-ID: <4231ABA0.6030301@main.nc.us> Hi. When I click on a local postscript file in konqueror, I get an error message that says: The desktop entry file /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/convertpstopdf.desktop has an invalid menu entry convertpstopdf. Can someone tell me how to fix this? If I click on OK, the file is then correctly displayed. Mandrake 9.1 rc2, kde 3.1.0, konqueror 3.1.0 Thanks, Joe [bigbird@localhost tmp]$ locate convertpstopdf.desktop /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/convertpstopdf.desktop [bigbird@localhost tmp]$ [bigbird@localhost tmp]$ cat /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/convertpstopdf.desktop [Desktop Entry] ServiceTypes=application/postscript Actions=convertpstopdf TryExec=ps2pdf [Desktop Action convertpdftops] Name=Convert PS file to PDF Exec=ps2pdf %f.ps %f.pdf [bigbird@localhost tmp]$ -- It is not well to see everything, to hear everything; let many causes of offense pass by us unnoticed. -Lucius Annaeus Seneca From lasker at eng.buffalo.edu Fri Mar 11 12:55:34 2005 From: lasker at eng.buffalo.edu (Jason Lasker) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200503111755.j2BHteDg018211@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> This page may clear up (or not) the Windows 2003 Server CAL and Terminal Server CAL requirements. For 2003 server you need one CAL and one TS CAL for each client connection. But if your client is XP pro you can get a TS-CAL for free. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/terminal/termin al_faq.mspx#XSLTfaqSection121123121120120 So if I understand this correctly if you have a Linux or any other non XP pro client you need to have one regular CAL one TS-CAL per connection. (The XP Pro TS-CAL being "free") Then add your citrix licensing on top of that..... My head hurts... I'm going back to sleep now.... Jason Lasker Senior Programmer Analyst/Systems Administrator University at Buffalo Science and Engineering Node Services 113 Bell Hall Buffalo, NY 14260-2050 Voice 716-645-3797 x2172 Fax 716-645-3704 email mailto:lasker@eng.buffalo.edu -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Charles H. Root, III Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:41 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- Hello Gang: My VAR is Joe Manzella from PCI. He knows the complicated ins & outs of the Citrix licensing world quite well. Give him a shout at 856-7181. I'm sure he can assist you with your Citrix questions and needs. My understanding is this: The server side licensing is tricky. The client software residing on the workstation or thin client is free. In fact, you can go to http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/downloads.asp and freely download clients for pretty much any modern OS. I don't believe for a minute that you are required to purchase a Win2K license for MacOS, Linux, Win98 and NT4 clients that connect into a Citrix server. These vendors may not get it or are just trying to get you to spend money on something you don't need. Get another opinion... Call Joe. Good luck! chaz -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Tom McKim Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:33 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- --- "Charles H. Root, III" wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out > Linux based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and > the Citrix client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use > old computers, and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. > I've saved the company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on > PCS. Almost $100K in one year. Our CFO loves me! Do you have any information on the Licensing? I have been trying to get answers on this. I asked the two vendors that we're selling it to me and I spoke to a licenseing rep at Microsoft. It's been over a year so but I recall them saying that if you are going to be using Terminal Services with or with out CITRIX, you need a terminal service license per client. That is a no-brainer so I purchased 40 Termainal Service Licenses to go along with the 40 Citrix Liceneses. I was also told if you are going to be connecting from a Non-Windows 2000 (NT4, Win 98, Linux) then you need to pay for a Windows 2000 License per box. On top of that you would need a license for each client for office. Tom McKim, MCSE Network Administrator Niagara Chocolates 3500 Genesee Street Buffalo, New York 14225 tmckim@niagarachocolates.com mckimt@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. From josephj at main.nc.us Fri Mar 11 13:15:00 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review In-Reply-To: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> References: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> Any chance you (generically speaking) could add a printer friendly button to you article pages? I usually read anything more than a few paragraphs offline (on paper). Joe Kevin E. Glosser wrote: > Today, we posted our Cedega 4.2.1 review. You can check it out here... > > http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/staticpages/index.php?page=20050306045044463 > > > Cedega is a commercial version of W.I.N.E. that allows you play > Windows games in Linux. I tested it with World of Warcraft, Half-Life > 2 and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Hope you enjoy it. > > KEG > -- "Sooner or later all the people of the world will have to discover a way to live together in peace and thereby transform this pending cosmic elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. This is why right temporarily defeated is stronger than evil triumphant." --Martin Luther King From brett at consumersbeverages.com Fri Mar 11 14:33:30 2005 From: brett at consumersbeverages.com (Brett Hamann) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: VoiceMail Message-ID: <001d01c52671$347267c0$9600010a@inv3> Has anyone in the group installed a voicemail system using a Linux solution? I was looking for a stand alone system that would hook up to different PBXs. Mine would be a Merlin 820. I'm sure there is a large demand for something like this. Just thought I would throw it out there... Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050311/398add9e/attachment.html From mmusone at shatterit.com Fri Mar 11 14:55:20 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: VoiceMail In-Reply-To: <001d01c52671$347267c0$9600010a@inv3> Message-ID: <000201c52674$416de4b0$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> We primarily use asterisk for our voicemail system. It allows us to not only have a voicemail system, but an entire PBX and VOIP capability both internal to the office and through external VOIP providers -Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:34 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: VoiceMail Has anyone in the group installed a voicemail system using a Linux solution? I was looking for a stand alone system that would hook up to different PBXs. Mine would be a Merlin 820. I'm sure there is a large demand for something like this. Just thought I would throw it out there... Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050311/b74428b0/attachment.html From qfwfq at adelphia.net Fri Mar 11 15:38:37 2005 From: qfwfq at adelphia.net (Stephen Burke) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review >> printer friendly In-Reply-To: <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> References: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <423201CD.9070106@adelphia.net> One solution would be to just select the text of the article, copy it into the text editor/word processor of your choice, and print from there. A nice thing about linux is that after you select what you want in the browser (or any other) window, you can just go to where you want to paste it and do that by simply clicking the middle mouse button, without having to remember if you copied it in the first window or not. This could well be one of my favorite things about linux , but I don't think it has been documented all that widely yet. I learned it by seeing someone do it (on a Sun box) and thinking, "wow," or something like that, and I have gotten similar responses by showing this trick to people who had been using linux for years and never knew about it, so please forgive me if this is considered common knowledge. If you have a wheel mouse, the wheel is the middle button, and clickable. If you have a 2 button mouse, hopefully you checked "emulate 3 buttons" during your install, which works by clicking left and right buttona at the same time to make the 3rd (middle) click. Now if I could just find a 3-button optical mouse, I'd be all set. If anyone here has found one anywhere (I've looked just about everywhere with no luck), please enlighten me on where to get one. Plenty of wheel optical ones available, but only the trackball variety for 3-buttons for some reason, and they always require tedious, delicate cleaning maneuvers when things start getting all jerky. The middle buton is also better for scrolling up and down windows with a single click, imho (you scroll to wherever the middle button is clicked on the scrollbar - found that trick in the emacs tutorial, btw). It is also invaluable when you break away from the gnome/kde taskbar (trough) realm and start using various other window managers like enlightenment, blackbox, etc. Oddly enough, the 3-button mouse I have here had M$ logos all over the box, but I still haven't figured out what a 3 button mouse would be good for in windows, or if the middle button would even have any function. doesn't seem to do much of anything on the 2k side of this hard drive, anyway. S. Joe wrote: > Any chance you (generically speaking) could add a printer friendly > button to you article pages? I usually read anything more than a few > paragraphs offline (on paper). > > Joe > > Kevin E. Glosser wrote: > >> Today, we posted our Cedega 4.2.1 review. You can check it out here... >> >> http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/staticpages/index.php?page=20050306045044463 >> >> >> Cedega is a commercial version of W.I.N.E. that allows you play >> Windows games in Linux. I tested it with World of Warcraft, Half-Life >> 2 and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Hope you enjoy it. >> >> KEG >> > From brett at consumersbeverages.com Fri Mar 11 16:35:43 2005 From: brett at consumersbeverages.com (Brett Hamann) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: VoiceMail References: <000201c52674$416de4b0$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <020701c52682$47639640$9600010a@inv3> ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Musone To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: RE: VoiceMail We primarily use asterisk for our voicemail system. It allows us to not only have a voicemail system, but an entire PBX and VOIP capability both internal to the office and through external VOIP providers -Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:34 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: VoiceMail Has anyone in the group installed a voicemail system using a Linux solution? I was looking for a stand alone system that would hook up to different PBXs. Mine would be a Merlin 820. I'm sure there is a large demand for something like this. Just thought I would throw it out there... I'm aware of asterisk but I though that was mostly for VOIP systems. Is there a way to build an internal PBX using regular POTS lines? How about features like transfer calls, conference call, displaying which lines are in use? Thanks for the info Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050311/df01489e/attachment.html From dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com Fri Mar 11 16:46:22 2005 From: dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com (Dennis Ruzeski) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:34 2005 Subject: VoiceMail Message-ID: The short answer is 'Hell yes'. Check out the asterisk website and this article.. http://techdatapros.com/asterisk/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:36 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: VoiceMail Importance: Low ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Musone To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: RE: VoiceMail We primarily use asterisk for our voicemail system. It allows us to not only have a voicemail system, but an entire PBX and VOIP capability both internal to the office and through external VOIP providers -Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:34 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: VoiceMail Has anyone in the group installed a voicemail system using a Linux solution? I was looking for a stand alone system that would hook up to different PBXs. Mine would be a Merlin 820. I'm sure there is a large demand for something like this. Just thought I would throw it out there... I'm aware of asterisk but I though that was mostly for VOIP systems. Is there a way to build an internal PBX using regular POTS lines? How about features like transfer calls, conference call, displaying which lines are in use? Thanks for the info Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050311/da457b7d/attachment.html From mmusone at shatterit.com Fri Mar 11 17:12:33 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: VoiceMail In-Reply-To: <020701c52682$47639640$9600010a@inv3> Message-ID: <000601c52687$6cf62bc0$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Yep, asterisk support T-1 cards, POTS line cards.etc.. If you go to the digium site: http://www.digium.com/ you'll see all of the cards they offer that work with asterisk. Heres most of the list: Also, if you want to just try out a plain POTS line with asterisk as a test base, I can show you where to get a single line POTS asterisk card for about $8.00 Wildcard TE410P Quad-Span togglable E1/T1 card enables per card or per port selection of either T1 or E1 signaling formats (3.3 volt PCI only). Wildcard TE405P Quad-Span togglable E1/T1 card enables per card or per-port selection of either T1 or E1 signaling formats (5.0 volt PCI only). Wildcard TDM400P Quad-Port half-length PCI card which supports standard analog or ADSI telephones and regular POTS lines. Wildcard TE110P Single-Span selectable T1 / E1 half-length (available with 2U bracket) PCI card sporting the same features as the TE410P. FXO Module FXO Module for use with the Wildcard TDM400P. FXS Module FXS Module for use with the Wildcard TDM400P. S100I / "IAXyT" Single CPE fully featured FXS interface with an Ethernet back-end, speaking the Asterisk-native IAXT protocol. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:36 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: VoiceMail ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Musone To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: RE: VoiceMail We primarily use asterisk for our voicemail system. It allows us to not only have a voicemail system, but an entire PBX and VOIP capability both internal to the office and through external VOIP providers -Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:34 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: VoiceMail Has anyone in the group installed a voicemail system using a Linux solution? I was looking for a stand alone system that would hook up to different PBXs. Mine would be a Merlin 820. I'm sure there is a large demand for something like this. Just thought I would throw it out there... I'm aware of asterisk but I though that was mostly for VOIP systems. Is there a way to build an internal PBX using regular POTS lines? How about features like transfer calls, conference call, displaying which lines are in use? Thanks for the info Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050311/e089c564/attachment.html From josephj at main.nc.us Fri Mar 11 17:14:44 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review >> printer friendly In-Reply-To: <423201CD.9070106@adelphia.net> References: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> <423201CD.9070106@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <42321854.4030007@main.nc.us> That works - even clicking both buttons on my touchpad works (I didn't know about that) - I'm hooked on touchpads built into my keyboard (on my lap) because I'm tall and don't interface well with standard furniture. I've never seen a 3 button touchpad. Anyway, what I like to do at many websites is click the printable version of what I'm reading. Generally, it gets more of it on the screen at once with less distracting ads, etc. and I don't have to worry about linking to all 15 parts. Then, if I want to print it, it's one print job *and* it keeps all its formatting which is lost when I cut and paste into any editors I know how to use (or even worse, sometimes I end up with partial HTML source code!) So even though your suggestion sort of works, it doesn't really do what I want. Joe Stephen Burke wrote: > One solution would be to just select the text of the article, copy it > into the text editor/word processor of your choice, and print from > there. A nice thing about linux is that after you select what you want > in the browser (or any other) window, you can just go to where you > want to paste it and do that by simply clicking the middle mouse > button, without having to remember if you copied it in the first > window or not. > > This could well be one of my favorite things about linux , but I don't > think it has been documented all that widely yet. I learned it by > seeing someone do it (on a Sun box) and thinking, "wow," or something > like that, and I have gotten similar responses by showing this trick > to people who had been using linux for years and never knew about it, > so please forgive me if this is considered common knowledge. > > If you have a wheel mouse, the wheel is the middle button, and > clickable. If you have a 2 button mouse, hopefully you checked > "emulate 3 buttons" during your install, which works by clicking left > and right buttona at the same time to make the 3rd (middle) click. > > Now if I could just find a 3-button optical mouse, I'd be all set. If > anyone here has found one anywhere (I've looked just about everywhere > with no luck), please enlighten me on where to get one. Plenty of > wheel optical ones available, but only the trackball variety for > 3-buttons for some reason, and they always require tedious, delicate > cleaning maneuvers when things start getting all jerky. > > The middle buton is also better for scrolling up and down windows with > a single click, imho (you scroll to wherever the middle button is > clicked on the scrollbar - found that trick in the emacs tutorial, > btw). It is also invaluable when you break away from the gnome/kde > taskbar (trough) realm and start using various other window managers > like enlightenment, blackbox, etc. > > Oddly enough, the 3-button mouse I have here had M$ logos all over the > box, but I still haven't figured out what a 3 button mouse would be > good for in windows, or if the middle button would even have any > function. doesn't seem to do much of anything on the 2k side of this > hard drive, anyway. > > S. > > Joe wrote: > >> Any chance you (generically speaking) could add a printer friendly >> button to you article pages? I usually read anything more than a few >> paragraphs offline (on paper). >> >> Joe >> >> Kevin E. Glosser wrote: >> >>> Today, we posted our Cedega 4.2.1 review. You can check it out here... >>> >>> http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/staticpages/index.php?page=20050306045044463 >>> >>> >>> Cedega is a commercial version of W.I.N.E. that allows you play >>> Windows games in Linux. I tested it with World of Warcraft, >>> Half-Life 2 and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Hope you >>> enjoy it. >>> >>> KEG >>> >> > -- "The United States has entered an anti-intellectual phase in its history, perhaps most clearly seen in our virtually thought-free political life." -- David Baltimore From keg at adelphia.net Fri Mar 11 17:41:36 2005 From: keg at adelphia.net (Kevin E. Glosser) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review In-Reply-To: <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> References: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <42321EA0.7070601@adelphia.net> Joe wrote: > Any chance you (generically speaking) could add a printer friendly > button to you article pages? I usually read anything more than a few > paragraphs offline (on paper). Our news articles have that capability, provided by GeekLog. The review, we did not post as a news article, it's a static page. Although, we could add this functionality, we're not going to. For two reasons, not including being mean. :) One, it was intended to be read online, contains lots of hyperlinks and some images. Two, as Stephen mentioned, you could always select all the text and paste it into another application and print it that way. I realize this isn't a fantastic solution. However, it is only copying a few pages of text and pasting them into OpenOffice or another app. A three button mouse is not required either. Simply, highlight the text of a page, and copy it via your browsers Edit menu(or by right clicking, or by using keyboard shortcuts like , or ). Then open a text editor and paste it(Edit menu -> paste, , ). I appreciate your feedback on it. I, myself, try to get away from my monitor as much as possible. I am keenly aware of the damage looking at a monitor does to your eye sight. The pixels cause our eyes to constantly be in use, due to the eye being able to see the fuzziness and lack of clarity in them. We as humans, cannot notice it, but our eyes can. This is what causes eye fatigue, if you spend too much time in front of your monitor. Your eyes are constantly working while you look at a monitor, struggling to put the fuzzy pixels in focus, regardless of the quality of your monitor. KEG From speljamr at speljamr.com Fri Mar 11 18:45:10 2005 From: speljamr at speljamr.com (Timothy J. Finucane) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review In-Reply-To: <42321EA0.7070601@adelphia.net> References: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> <42321EA0.7070601@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1110584710.5560.0.camel@bossk.local> Someone could just put together a simple print.css for the site without creating a whole print template. Tim On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 17:41, Kevin E. Glosser wrote: > Joe wrote: > > Any chance you (generically speaking) could add a printer friendly > > button to you article pages? I usually read anything more than a few > > paragraphs offline (on paper). > > Our news articles have that capability, provided by GeekLog. The review, > we did not post as a news article, it's a static page. > > Although, we could add this functionality, we're not going to. For two > reasons, not including being mean. :) One, it was intended to be read > online, contains lots of hyperlinks and some images. Two, as Stephen > mentioned, you could always select all the text and paste it into > another application and print it that way. > > I realize this isn't a fantastic solution. However, it is only copying a > few pages of text and pasting them into OpenOffice or another app. A > three button mouse is not required either. Simply, highlight the text of > a page, and copy it via your browsers Edit menu(or by right clicking, or > by using keyboard shortcuts like , or ). > Then open a text editor and paste it(Edit menu -> paste, , > ). > > I appreciate your feedback on it. I, myself, try to get away from my > monitor as much as possible. I am keenly aware of the damage looking at > a monitor does to your eye sight. > > The pixels cause our eyes to constantly be in use, due to the eye being > able to see the fuzziness and lack of clarity in them. We as humans, > cannot notice it, but our eyes can. This is what causes eye fatigue, if > you spend too much time in front of your monitor. Your eyes are > constantly working while you look at a monitor, struggling to put the > fuzzy pixels in focus, regardless of the quality of your monitor. > > KEG -- ?They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.? ?Benjamin Franklin From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 23:44:38 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Headsets/Microphones Message-ID: <2af2a0db0503112044539bf1fc@mail.gmail.com> hey, I am looking for a name of a headset or microphone that works in linux i have seen some headsets that are usb which by pass the soundcard lik ethe logictech Premium Model 300. Does this work in Linux. I am aiming to use slackware 10.1 or FC3 Thanks -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From javabob at adelphia.net Sat Mar 12 06:01:39 2005 From: javabob at adelphia.net (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Answer-- RE: OpenLDAP references In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4232CC13.20708@adelphia.net> I checked out the web pages you provided. They are educational, actually I thought I knew more that I do about LDAP. I think I'll get the book you mentioned as well. My 800+ page book gives more of an understanding and not so much hands on stuff/ HOWTO's. Did you get everything working the way you expected? Bob Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >I should have already known this, but O'Reilly to the rescue! > >The 'ferret' book, LDAP System Administration by Gerald Carter saved the day. Before you even think about setting up ldap, get this book and check out the following websites >http://www.padl.com >http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/ldap.htm >http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/ldap-linux.htm > >The websites are great, but the book is the bomb.. > >--Dennis > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of >Dennis Ruzeski >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:10 AM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: OpenLDAP references >Importance: Low > > >Greetings, all- > >Here's my situation. We've gotten to the point here where there's a need for central authentication for our developers. Rather than set up NIS+ or try to use our M$ Active Directory, we're setting up an LDAP server. >No problem. The server and database is set up properly and I can use authconfig to make the linux systems point to it. The problem is in the details- User home directories, for example. I know I don't need a copy on every box- How do I get it to be available on the logged-in system? What I'm looking for is a decent reference on how to set up the stuff that authconfig doesn't (pam, home directories, email, etc....) > >TIA, >Dennis > > > > > > From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 19:20:47 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Sound Issues in FC3 Message-ID: <2af2a0db05031216205cf0b61a@mail.gmail.com> Hello, For some resaon my sound in Fedora Core 3 is not working but it was when i reinstalled it Yesterday. i did alsamixer made sure the channels were not muted made sure tyhe programs were set to use alsa and the sound card dectecter is picking up the card and configureing it but i do not hear anything. Any Ideas soundcard is Cirrus Logic SC 4614/22/24 P3 600mghz ram 192mb -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 11:41:52 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Meeting Next Week?? Message-ID: <2af2a0db050313084139c107ce@mail.gmail.com> Hey, Is there going to be a meeting next week. I remember bob saying there may NOT be but i have not heard anything since last month. If so any topic ideas?? -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Sun Mar 13 11:59:21 2005 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Meeting Next Week?? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050313165922.5989.qmail@web53808.mail.yahoo.com> I have found out that I won't be in town next Sunday. Unless someone else can run the meeting, we will have to postpone until the 27th. I have heard a bunch of things that people want to cover. Any volunteers for presentations. Please don't volunteer unless you're going to be able to be at the meeting. Cheers! Bob --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > Hey, > > Is there going to be a meeting next week. I remember bob saying there > may NOT be but i have not heard anything since last month. If so any > topic ideas?? > > -- > Josh > -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Sun Mar 13 14:23:13 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: GRUB Message-ID: <42349321.2000409@thecybersource.com> I remember here and there people being lost in the world of GRUB. Here's a good article regarding, showing some cool things you can do, and showing the 12735208347512 (estimated by me) advantages over LILO: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm -Jesse From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 22:04:26 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Meeting Next Week?? In-Reply-To: <20050313165922.5989.qmail@web53808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050313165922.5989.qmail@web53808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2af2a0db050313190460b7a637@mail.gmail.com> 27th is easter On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:59:21 -0800 (PST), Robert Meyer wrote: > I have found out that I won't be in town next Sunday. Unless someone else can > run the meeting, we will have to postpone until the 27th. > > I have heard a bunch of things that people want to cover. Any volunteers for > presentations. Please don't volunteer unless you're going to be able to be at > the meeting. > > Cheers! > > Bob > --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > > Hey, > > > > Is there going to be a meeting next week. I remember bob saying there > > may NOT be but i have not heard anything since last month. If so any > > topic ideas?? > > > > -- > > Josh > > -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From fkumro at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 12:41:11 2005 From: fkumro at gmail.com (Frank Kumro) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: CL Network monitor Message-ID: Is there any programs/commands for linux that allow me to watch the IO of the eth cards via command line? Example would be 123kbs in 109kbs out on eth0 (something like that or anything that has that data). Thanks again guys! -- Frank Shenanigans!! From dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com Wed Mar 16 13:00:15 2005 From: dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com (Dennis Ruzeski) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: CL Network monitor Message-ID: Try this-- http://freshmeat.net/projects/bwm-ng/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Frank Kumro Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:41 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: CL Network monitor Importance: Low Is there any programs/commands for linux that allow me to watch the IO of the eth cards via command line? Example would be 123kbs in 109kbs out on eth0 (something like that or anything that has that data). Thanks again guys! -- Frank Shenanigans!! From erek at nbtsc.org Wed Mar 16 13:09:28 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: CL Network monitor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050316180927.GA714@nbtsc.org> For top-like instant status, iptraf is pretty good. For historical graphing, use mrtg. I can send you my mrtg configuration for monitoring ethernet devices if you'd like me to. Or, there's always watch 'ifconfig |grep eth0 -A7 |head -n7|grep "RX bytes"' Erek On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 12:41:11PM -0500, Frank Kumro wrote: > Is there any programs/commands for linux that allow me to watch the IO > of the eth cards via command line? Example would be 123kbs in 109kbs > out on eth0 (something like that or anything that has that data). > Thanks again guys! > -- > Frank > Shenanigans!! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can send you my mrtg configuration for > monitoring ethernet devices if you'd like me to. > > Or, there's always watch 'ifconfig |grep eth0 -A7 |head -n7|grep "RX bytes"' > > Erek > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 12:41:11PM -0500, Frank Kumro wrote: > > Is there any programs/commands for linux that allow me to watch the IO > > of the eth cards via command line? Example would be 123kbs in 109kbs > > out on eth0 (something like that or anything that has that data). > > Thanks again guys! > > -- > > Frank > > Shenanigans!! > > > -- Frank Shenanigans!! From erek at nbtsc.org Wed Mar 16 20:47:33 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: CL Network monitor In-Reply-To: References: <20050316180927.GA714@nbtsc.org> Message-ID: <20050317014732.GC28667@nbtsc.org> Frank and list, A (mostly) working example of my mrtg is available at http://admin5.blumenthals.com/cgi-bin/mrtg.cgi It isn't pretty, but it gives the information I need. You can download the configuration files and data-gathering scripts at http://erek.admin5.blumenthals.com/mrtgcfg.tar If you just want the main ethernet traffic, copy the "traffic analysis" target into your mrtg.cfg, and the system shellscript into /etc/mrtg/ Feel free to look around at some of the other targets too. If you want to use the port specific ones, you'll need to make sure that initmrtg.pl runs whenever the system boots and when the iptables rules are flushed. The email-related targets are exim specific, so I'd expect they'd take some substantial retooling to make them go on a different mta. Also, for the http hits and mysql counts, mrtg has a bug that causes a very high graph spike whenever you restart either daemon. This can be fixed by applying the included patch to the mrtg binary. Note that the patch can break accurate recording of high traffic routers when using the perminute option on them. Please feel free to ask me if you have any other questions. I'd like to hear if/when you get it working. Regards, Erek On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 01:19:29PM -0500, Frank Kumro wrote: > Erek, > That would be very helpful if you can send me your config file for > eth device. I like iptraf but I am also going to install mrtg (Ive > known about it but now i feel like installing it). Thanks again > because iptraf was just what I was looking for. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050316/33102a25/attachment.pgp From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 11:11:11 2005 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Sunday's meeting Message-ID: <20050317161112.15756.qmail@web53810.mail.yahoo.com> OK, I am going to be out of town on Sunday but I have arranged to get someone to the office to open the place for the meeting. I need someone to step up to the plate and offer to run the meeting. I also need someone to volunteer to demo something or talk about something. I need some help, folks. I can't do it all myself. Cheers! Bob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From vlokstone at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 12:19:22 2005 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Sunday's meeting In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050317171922.38092.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Bob, I talked to John and told him I'd be available. As far as topics go, I'm currently setting up an LTSP thin client environment and would like to incorporate openmosix clustering. It's been done before and I would like to try that. Other things I've recently had some experience with include openvpn,asterisk,vtiger CRM, a web-based sugarCRM clone, (customer relationship management software). --- Robert Meyer wrote: > OK, I am going to be out of town on Sunday but I > have arranged to get someone > to the office to open the place for the meeting. I > need someone to step up to > the plate and offer to run the meeting. I also need > someone to volunteer to > demo something or talk about something. > > I need some help, folks. I can't do it all myself. > > Cheers! > > Bob > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Free Good Fire Bad __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From erek at nbtsc.org Thu Mar 17 13:01:14 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Sunday's meeting In-Reply-To: <20050317171922.38092.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050317171922.38092.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050317180113.GA17538@nbtsc.org> Hi, It all sounds interesting. I'd personally like to hear about open source CRM systems. Othereise, LTSP sounds good. Regards, Erek On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 09:19:22AM -0800, vlok stone wrote: > Bob, I talked to John and told him I'd be available. > As far as topics go, I'm currently setting up an LTSP > thin client environment and would like to > incorporate openmosix clustering. It's been done > before > and I would like to try that. Other things I've > recently had some experience with include > openvpn,asterisk,vtiger CRM, a web-based sugarCRM > clone, (customer relationship management software). > > > --- Robert Meyer wrote: > > OK, I am going to be out of town on Sunday but I > > have arranged to get someone > > to the office to open the place for the meeting. I > > need someone to step up to > > the plate and offer to run the meeting. I also need > > someone to volunteer to > > demo something or talk about something. > > > > I need some help, folks. I can't do it all myself. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Bob > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Free Good > Fire Bad > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050318/00be03f5/attachment.pgp From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 17 15:10:40 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Powerlink Web Hosting Message-ID: <4239E440.5060903@thecybersource.com> Has anyone been able to have a web server or e-mail server with Powerlink? I hear they block port 80, but I noticed my upload speed has been steady at 50k and was thinking of having my own web server for personal use. Anyone been able to do this? -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Thu Mar 17 15:22:24 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Powerlink Web Hosting In-Reply-To: <4239E440.5060903@thecybersource.com> References: <4239E440.5060903@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <4239E700.6010100@Dynabrade.com> I used to have powerlink. I believe it's against your service agreement to host a web page. You'll have to read your agreement, or not. You can always run it on a different port. then the url would be http://xxx.xxx.xxx:8000 or whatever port you put it on. A guy I know runs his with ssl (https://) because port 443 is not blocked by his provider. Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/17/2005 3:10 PM, Jesse Jarzynka wrote: > Has anyone been able to have a web server or e-mail server with > Powerlink? I hear they block port 80, but I noticed my upload speed > has been steady at 50k and was thinking of having my own web server > for personal use. Anyone been able to do this? From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Thu Mar 17 15:23:04 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Powerlink Web Hosting In-Reply-To: <4239E440.5060903@thecybersource.com> References: <4239E440.5060903@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <4239E728.2080101@Dynabrade.com> If you don't have port 25 then you won't be able to recieve incoming email though. Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/17/2005 3:10 PM, Jesse Jarzynka wrote: > Has anyone been able to have a web server or e-mail server with > Powerlink? I hear they block port 80, but I noticed my upload speed > has been steady at 50k and was thinking of having my own web server > for personal use. Anyone been able to do this? From contactme at donmonroe.com Thu Mar 17 17:42:48 2005 From: contactme at donmonroe.com (Don Monroe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Powerlink Web Hosting In-Reply-To: <4239E700.6010100@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <42006BC900015A89@mta7.wss.scd.yahoo.com> It is against the TOS with Adelphia to running ANY type of server. That being said, I have run Apache on port 81, sendmail, Webmin on port 10000 and Tomcat on 8080. Telnet with ssh works (PuTTy) but I can't remember the port it uses. Don From kennethlawson2000 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 09:34:57 2005 From: kennethlawson2000 at yahoo.com (Kenneth Lawson) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Off Topice Wirless networking In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050318143457.47913.qmail@web53710.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All I know is is off-topic but I have a wirless problem. I just got a d-link wirlewss router and card for laptop. I managed to get them see each other, their both showing that they seem to be talking to each other. I am on a dial-up and using my xp drsktop as the gateway tothe router, Some said something about setting a stic ip address for the router for the card to find , I 'm not sure if that what I need to or what. Anyone have any ides how to make this work? Thanks in advance, Ken Ken & Nancy Lawson You may now see Our Pictures at http://www.civilwarimpressions.com and From robert_todd at adelphia.net Fri Mar 18 09:49:17 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Powerlink Web Hosting References: <42006BC900015A89@mta7.wss.scd.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006201c52bc9$a9aac890$640fa8c0@wolfe.local> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Monroe" To: Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Powerlink Web Hosting > It is against the TOS with Adelphia to running ANY type of server. That > being said, I have run Apache on port 81, sendmail, Webmin on port 10000 > and Tomcat on 8080. Telnet with ssh works (PuTTy) but I can't remember > the port it uses. Telnet uses port 23, SSH uses port 22. Robert Wolfe, Tier 1 Chat Support, Buffalo APCC Adelphia Communications PS: Don't worry! I won't blow ya in! From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 10:26:14 2005 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Off Topice Wirless networking In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050318152615.15489.qmail@web53801.mail.yahoo.com> Well, is the Dlink a router or a hub? I don't suppose it makes that much difference because you'd want to configure the Dlink for local only. I think that there are several Ethernet ports on there, along with the "WAN" port. If you connect everything to the Ethernet ports, turn off routing in the Dlink and tell it's DHCP to use the dialup machine as the default route. You'd have to remove the address that the XP dialup box is going to use from the scope in DHCP and make the XP box have a static address. I usually make it the last address in the subnet (e.g. 192.168.22.254) and then tell the DHCP scope to stop at 200. Then you'd set your dialup box to do routing to the local subnet and you're good to go. Personally, I'd set up a minimal linux box to do the dialup, using shorewall or some such for firewall. Then you don't have to worry about getting your firewall virused, trojaned or hijacked. Just a thought... Cheers! Bob --- Kenneth Lawson wrote: > Hi All > > I know is is off-topic but I have a wirless problem. > > I just got a d-link wirlewss router and card for laptop. > I managed to get them see each other, their both showing that they > seem to be talking to each other. > I am on a dial-up and using my xp drsktop as the gateway tothe > router, > Some said something about setting a stic ip address for the router for > the card to find , I 'm not sure if that what I need to or what. > > Anyone have any ides how to make this work? > Thanks in advance, > > Ken > > Ken & Nancy Lawson > You may now see Our Pictures at http://www.civilwarimpressions.com and > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ From mckimt at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 10:57:08 2005 From: mckimt at yahoo.com (Tom McKim) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: Off Topice Wirless networking In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050318155708.86876.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> I agree with Bob. I would make one change. Don't set your XP compter with a Static IP manually on the PC. I would get the MAC address from that PC, and set the DHCP server on the D-Link to assign that MAC address with the X.X.X.254 IP address. It would make it easier to redirect everyone to where the Default Gateway is if you were to setup a linux box to do the Dial up, you would just have to get the MAC address of that Device and change it in the D-Link. Also if you had to Bring your PC somewhere else you wouldn't have to worry about setting up the IP address for the new network. Personally, If I use DHCP I want it to assign all address's even the Static Ones. --- Robert Meyer wrote: > Well, is the Dlink a router or a hub? I don't > suppose it makes that much > difference because you'd want to configure the Dlink > for local only. I think > that there are several Ethernet ports on there, > along with the "WAN" port. If > you connect everything to the Ethernet ports, turn > off routing in the Dlink and > tell it's DHCP to use the dialup machine as the > default route. You'd have to > remove the address that the XP dialup box is going > to use from the scope in > DHCP and make the XP box have a static address. I > usually make it the last > address in the subnet (e.g. 192.168.22.254) and then > tell the DHCP scope to > stop at 200. > > Then you'd set your dialup box to do routing to the > local subnet and you're > good to go. Personally, I'd set up a minimal linux > box to do the dialup, using > shorewall or some such for firewall. Then you don't > have to worry about > getting your firewall virused, trojaned or hijacked. > Just a thought... > > Cheers! > > Bob > --- Kenneth Lawson > wrote: > > Hi All > > > > I know is is off-topic but I have a wirless > problem. > > > > I just got a d-link wirlewss router and card for > laptop. > > I managed to get them see each other, their > both showing that they > > seem to be talking to each other. > > I am on a dial-up and using my xp drsktop as > the gateway tothe > > router, > > Some said something about setting a stic ip > address for the router for > > the card to find , I 'm not sure if that what I > need to or what. > > > > Anyone have any ides how to make this work? > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Ken > > > > Ken & Nancy Lawson > > You may now see Our Pictures at > http://www.civilwarimpressions.com and > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. > http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ > Tom McKim, MCSE Network Administrator Niagara Chocolates 3500 Genesee Street Buffalo, New York 14225 tmckim@niagarachocolates.com mckimt@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 11:35:35 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: NeroLinux/Burn software Message-ID: <20050318163535.90085.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone try the new NeroLinux burning software? I dont have burner on my box here at work.. http://www.nero.com/us/NeroLINUX.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Fri Mar 18 11:43:23 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: NeroLinux/Burn software In-Reply-To: <20050318163535.90085.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050318163535.90085.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423B052B.1040306@Dynabrade.com> nope didn't know it existed. I'm downloading it now. (I have a purchased version of 6 for windows). Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/18/2005 11:35 AM, anthonyriga wrote: >Anyone try the new NeroLinux burning software? I dont >have burner on my box here at work.. > > >http://www.nero.com/us/NeroLINUX.html > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Fri Mar 18 12:11:20 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: NeroLinux/Burn software In-Reply-To: <20050318163535.90085.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050318163535.90085.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423B0BB8.3000907@thecybersource.com> anthonyriga wrote: >Anyone try the new NeroLinux burning software? I dont >have burner on my box here at work.. > > >http://www.nero.com/us/NeroLINUX.html > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > yes I have it installed an burned an audio cd with it. Worked very well actually, and maybe a little faster. Interestingly it needed mpg321 to run. Also here's a whole story comparing nerolinux and k3b... http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/16/0026217&tid=185&tid=198&tid=106 I'll save you the suspense...K3B wins! -Jesse From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 15:47:22 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: firefox 1.0.1 JRE Install help Message-ID: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> I just did a clean install of firefox 1.0.1 now having hard time installing JRE I downloaded version jre1.5.0_02 but having trouble installing.Any good instruction for install? Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Fri Mar 18 16:15:08 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: firefox 1.0.1 JRE Install help In-Reply-To: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423B44DC.2020007@thecybersource.com> anthonyriga wrote: >I just did a clean install of firefox 1.0.1 now having >hard time installing JRE I downloaded version >jre1.5.0_02 but having trouble installing.Any good >instruction for install? Thanks! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > you could just cheat, go into the new location where it installed the new firefox and mv the plugins dir to something else then symlink the old plugins dir from the old firefox install From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Fri Mar 18 16:27:25 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: firefox 1.0.1 JRE Install help In-Reply-To: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423B47BD.9080805@thecybersource.com> anthonyriga wrote: >I just did a clean install of firefox 1.0.1 now having >hard time installing JRE I downloaded version >jre1.5.0_02 but having trouble installing.Any good >instruction for install? Thanks! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > im sure you have it installed correctly, but you have to tell firfox where to look for it. for instance, my /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.1/plugins has a symbolic link libjavaplugin_oji.so which points to /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so . just make that link and you should be all set. -Jesse From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 16:26:33 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:35 2005 Subject: firefox 1.0.1 JRE Install help In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050318212633.69483.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> I get propmted in Firefox to download JRE automatically but JRE dosent seem to work. I never had this type of problem before. --- Cyber Source wrote: > anthonyriga wrote: > > >I just did a clean install of firefox 1.0.1 now > having > >hard time installing JRE I downloaded version > >jre1.5.0_02 but having trouble installing.Any good > >instruction for install? Thanks! > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > you could just cheat, go into the new location where > it installed the > new firefox and mv the plugins dir to something else > then symlink the > old plugins dir from the old firefox install > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From keg at adelphia.net Sat Mar 19 03:40:37 2005 From: keg at adelphia.net (Kevin E. Glosser) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: firefox 1.0.1 JRE Install help In-Reply-To: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423BE585.7040404@adelphia.net> anthonyriga wrote: > I just did a clean install of firefox 1.0.1 now having > hard time installing JRE I downloaded version > jre1.5.0_02 but having trouble installing.Any good > instruction for install? Thanks! Sun's JRE has had some issues with some distro's. I had troubles getting it to work with Fedora Core 3. It took a lot of digging, but it ended up being a bug with the JRE. It was a known bug, listed on Sun's site. I finally got "Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_01-b08" working with Firefox 1.0 and 1.0.1. The only thing required is to have a symbolic link to the correct file. On my computer the plugin directory is..."/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins" The symbolic link I have in that directory is..."libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /opt/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so" So... 1) Make sure you have a working JRE, more recent, the better. 2) Make sure you put a symbolic link in the correct plugins directory 3) Make sure you link to the correct file, there are more than one. In my case, to create the link..."ln -s /opt/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so libjavaplugin_oji.so" Hope that helps. KEG From green_man at bluefrog.biz Sat Mar 19 11:55:56 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: System Beep Message-ID: <20050319085556.6eb2cdbd.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Does anyone know of a program for Linux, or Windows, or both, that would redirect the system beep noise from the tiny, tinny speaker mounted on the floor of the tower, which can't be heard over a space heater in the room, to the speakers connected to the sound card ? Secondly, if such a program does exist for Linux, how do I get it to run automatically every time I boot ? Essentially, what is the Linux equivalent of putting a ShortCut in "C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\" ? -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live linux 2.4.27 From peter at thecybersource.com Sat Mar 19 10:36:35 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: System Beep In-Reply-To: <20050319085556.6eb2cdbd.green_man@bluefrog.biz> References: <20050319085556.6eb2cdbd.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <423C4703.604@thecybersource.com> S. Lawton wrote: >Does anyone know of a program for Linux, or Windows, or both, that would redirect the system beep noise from the tiny, tinny speaker mounted on the floor of the tower, which can't be heard over a space heater in the room, to the speakers connected to the sound card ? > >Secondly, if such a program does exist for Linux, how do I get it to run automatically every time I boot ? >Essentially, what is the Linux equivalent of putting a ShortCut in "C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\" ? > > > In Gnome, under preferences, sound for the events and under sessions you can put any process you want to start in there, i.e. numlock, etc.. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From hawkwynd at adelphia.net Sun Mar 20 11:03:16 2005 From: hawkwynd at adelphia.net (Scott) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Fedora Newbie Message-ID: <1111334595.7658.4.camel@zaphod> Just got my Fedora Core installed, and I've got some newbie questions. 1. when attempting to install my aha1520 scsi card (ISA), I've gone as far as I can with getting to working. I keep getting the same old "device not found" error. I have reserved IRQ 9 in the bios for ISA, and set the card to the proper settings. In winblows it worked flawlessly, but for some reason Lix wont play with it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. 2. How do I tell linux at boot to mount mapped drives? I have a nas on my network, and would like it to mount the share on startup. Thanks in advance. Please CC: hawkwynd at hawkwynd dot com with your replies, as I check that mailbox more frequently than I do this one. Scott From hawkwynd at adelphia.net Sun Mar 20 11:24:03 2005 From: hawkwynd at adelphia.net (Scott) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: More fun with modprobe aha152x Message-ID: <1111335842.7723.3.camel@zaphod> Here's the system log I get no matter how many different IRQ's I try. It looks like it *wants* to see the card, but for some odd reason, it's loging the interrupt? Any other ideas are appreciated: BTW, IRQ 9 is free as per SysInfo: Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s) Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: resetting bus... Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: vital data: rev=1, io=0x340 (0x340/0x340), irq=9, scsiid=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=1000, extended translation=disabled Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: trying software interrupt, lost. Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. Please verify. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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I have a nas on >my network, and would like it to mount the share on startup. > > >Thanks in advance. >Please CC: hawkwynd at hawkwynd dot com with your replies, as I check >that mailbox more frequently than I do this one. > >Scott > > > If the install didnt put the line "alias scsi_hostadapter aha152x" in your /etc/modprobe.conf file, you need to do that (without the quotes). Then you can mount the drives attached to it. If you need to boot from the drives attached to that controller, then you need to make a new initrd file, if you need instructions on how to do that, let me know. It appears that nas shares are mounted in Linux with NFS. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From erek at nbtsc.org Sun Mar 20 11:30:02 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Meeting time? Message-ID: <20050320163002.GB9618@nbtsc.org> Hi All, Will the meeting still be at 1pm today? Erek -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050320/57a50fea/attachment.pgp From peter at thecybersource.com Sun Mar 20 11:43:27 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: More fun with modprobe aha152x In-Reply-To: <1111335842.7723.3.camel@zaphod> References: <1111335842.7723.3.camel@zaphod> Message-ID: <423DA82F.6030907@thecybersource.com> Scott wrote: >Here's the system log I get no matter how many different IRQ's I try. It >looks like it *wants* to see the card, but for some odd reason, it's >loging the interrupt? Any other ideas are appreciated: > >BTW, IRQ 9 is free as per SysInfo: > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 >controller(s) >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: resetting bus... >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: vital data: rev=1, io=0x340 >(0x340/0x340), irq=9, scsiid=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, >synchronous=disabled, delay=1000, extended translation=disabled >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: trying software interrupt, >lost. >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. >Please verify. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s) >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: resetting bus... >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: vital data: rev=1, io=0x340 (0x340/0x340), irq=9, scsiid=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=1000, extended translation=disabled >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: trying software interrupt, lost. >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. Please verify. > > > sounds like a conflict, check out /proc/interrupts, even though it should be able to share the irq. I just checked online and found the manual for that, I will forward it to your other address. It shows that card has all sorts of jumpers (typical isa stuff) and it also shows that you set the irq with a jumper and it also shows that irq 11 is the default, check your jumpers -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From josephj at main.nc.us Sun Mar 20 11:49:53 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Firefox mailto problem Message-ID: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> Hi. I have Firefox 1.0.1 on Linux. I just clicked on a mailto: link and got some disk activity, but nothing else. How do I get it to go to Mozilla Messenger or Thunderbird? Related questions: Now that Firefox is all the rage, what does that mean for Mozilla development? I know the underlying code is the same, but is Mozilla as an application going away? Where do I ask Mozilla questions? I went to Mozillazine and only Firefox was there and the plugins I tried to install did nothing (even in Firefox). Joe -- "As a rule, I always look for what others ignore." --Marshall McLuhan From hawkwynd at adelphia.net Sun Mar 20 12:14:29 2005 From: hawkwynd at adelphia.net (Scott) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: More fun with modprobe aha152x In-Reply-To: <423DA82F.6030907@thecybersource.com> References: <1111335842.7723.3.camel@zaphod> <423DA82F.6030907@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <1111338868.2944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 11:43, Cyber Source wrote: > Scott wrote: > > >Here's the system log I get no matter how many different IRQ's I try. It > >looks like it *wants* to see the card, but for some odd reason, it's > >loging the interrupt? Any other ideas are appreciated: > > > >BTW, IRQ 9 is free as per SysInfo: > > > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 > >controller(s) > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: resetting bus... > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: vital data: rev=1, io=0x340 > >(0x340/0x340), irq=9, scsiid=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, > >synchronous=disabled, delay=1000, extended translation=disabled > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: trying software interrupt, > >lost. > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. > >Please verify. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s) > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: resetting bus... > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: vital data: rev=1, io=0x340 (0x340/0x340), irq=9, scsiid=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=1000, extended translation=disabled > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: trying software interrupt, lost. > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. Please verify. > > > > > > > sounds like a conflict, check out /proc/interrupts, even though it > should be able to share the irq. > I just checked online and found the manual for that, I will forward it > to your other address. It shows that card has all sorts of jumpers > (typical isa stuff) and it also shows that you set the irq with a jumper > and it also shows that irq 11 is the default, check your jumpers I've also set the jumpers, and have the manual for the 1520 controller, and I've double-checked the settings on the card to assure they are accurately set. While IRQ 11 is the default, my systeminfo settings say 9 is free, so I set the card to 9 and the bios (system) to reserve irq 9 for ISA. I have an advansys pci card, which installed with no problems, but the cable I have is cent50, which doesn't plug in the advansys card, and being Sunday I've little hope of finding a store nearby with a hd50/cent50 scsi adapter or cable suitable with the cdrom tower i need to control... I'll have a look at the settings again 2bsure. Scott From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 13:40:31 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Meeting time? In-Reply-To: <20050320163002.GB9618@nbtsc.org> References: <20050320163002.GB9618@nbtsc.org> Message-ID: <2af2a0db05032010407abea005@mail.gmail.com> hey, yes the meeting was at 1 and you are missing it with the whole of FIVE people but two whom are from the green party and have been drafted into the meeting but where is the speaker or etc who were supposed to be here????? Josh On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:02 -0700, Erek Dyskant wrote: > Hi All, > Will the meeting still be at 1pm today? > > Erek > > > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From rosonowski at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 14:06:32 2005 From: rosonowski at gmail.com (David Rosonowski) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Meeting time? In-Reply-To: <2af2a0db05032010407abea005@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050320163002.GB9618@nbtsc.org> <2af2a0db05032010407abea005@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd like to come to a meeting one of these days, any chance I could arrange a ride with someone well in advance or something? On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:40:31 -0500, Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > hey, > > yes the meeting was at 1 and you are missing it with the whole of FIVE > people but two whom are from the green party and have been drafted > into the meeting but where is the speaker or etc who were supposed to > be here????? > > Josh > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:02 -0700, Erek Dyskant wrote: > > Hi All, > > Will the meeting still be at 1pm today? > > > > Erek > > > > > > > > -- > Josh > -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > From keg at adelphia.net Sun Mar 20 14:32:36 2005 From: keg at adelphia.net (Kevin E. Glosser) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Firefox mailto problem In-Reply-To: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> References: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <423DCFD4.2020309@adelphia.net> Joe wrote: > Related questions: > Now that Firefox is all the rage, what does that mean for Mozilla > development? I know the underlying code is the same, but is Mozilla as > an application going away? We covered this story on March 11th at LinuxLinks.com. You can read it, at... http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/article.php?story=20050311161244400 Our news page, which currently has as a lead story another announcement regarding Firefox and Thunderbird... http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/ Our main page is... http://www.linuxlinks.com There are 28,358 links at LinuxLinks. <- Now with some Mac OS X links as well, in addition to all the Linux links. :) KEG From vlokstone at yahoo.com Sun Mar 20 14:50:31 2005 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Meeting time? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050320195031.56158.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry, no one got back to me on my offer, I did not know if there was or wasn't a meeting and/or anyone to let us in. I'm assumed the answer was no. --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > hey, > > yes the meeting was at 1 and you are missing it with > the whole of FIVE > people but two whom are from the green party and > have been drafted > into the meeting but where is the speaker or etc who > were supposed to > be here????? > > Josh > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:02 -0700, Erek Dyskant > wrote: > > Hi All, > > Will the meeting still be at 1pm today? > > > > Erek > > > > > > > > > -- > Josh > -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > Free Good Fire Bad __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 17:29:35 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Meeting time? In-Reply-To: <20050320195031.56158.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050320195031.56158.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2af2a0db0503201429ed5c987@mail.gmail.com> Bob did resond saying he found someone..... On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:50:31 -0800 (PST), vlok stone wrote: > Sorry, no one got back to me on my offer, I did not > know if there was or wasn't a meeting and/or anyone to > let us in. I'm assumed the answer was no. > > --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos > wrote: > > hey, > > > > yes the meeting was at 1 and you are missing it with > > the whole of FIVE > > people but two whom are from the green party and > > have been drafted > > into the meeting but where is the speaker or etc who > > were supposed to > > be here????? > > > > Josh > > > > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:02 -0700, Erek Dyskant > > wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > Will the meeting still be at 1pm today? > > > > > > Erek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Josh > > -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > > > Free Good > Fire Bad > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 17:30:54 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Meeting time? In-Reply-To: <2af2a0db0503201429ed5c987@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050320195031.56158.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> <2af2a0db0503201429ed5c987@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2af2a0db050320143074317861@mail.gmail.com> From: Robert Meyer Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:11:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sunday's meeting OK, I am going to be out of town on Sunday but I have arranged to get someone to the office to open the place for the meeting. I need someone to step up to the plate and offer to run the meeting. I also need someone to volunteer to demo something or talk about something. I need some help, folks. I can't do it all myself. Cheers! Bob From green_man at bluefrog.biz Sun Mar 20 21:56:10 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Firefox mailto problem In-Reply-To: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> References: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:49:53 -0500 Joe wrote about Firefox mailto problem: > Hi. I have Firefox 1.0.1 on Linux. I just clicked on a mailto: link > and got some disk activity, but nothing else. How do I get it to go > to Mozilla Messenger or Thunderbird? > I can't tell you exactly right now, because Puppy only has Firefox and Sylpheed, but in your prefs you need to direct it to the DEFAULT Mail Application. Choose either MozMessenger or Tbird, and it should work. When I reboot M$ I can tell more. I have Advanced browser set to use Moz Mail, Netscape using Tbird, and Firebird using Netscape Mail, just to keep IE, which I never use, away fom it all. The point is, if you run more than one browser like me, each will have it's own default mail app. > Related questions: > Now that Firefox is all the rage, what does that mean for Mozilla > development? I know the underlying code is the same, but is Mozilla > as an application going away? > It's looking like this might be the death of the dinosaur as we know it, the integrated suite, anyhow. I guess my Mozilla T-Shirt will be a collectors item, like the Mozilla 2002build I still run from Win95. I wonder what Netscape will do ? > Where do I ask Mozilla questions? I went to Mozillazine and only > Firefox was there and the plugins I tried to install did nothing (even > > in Firefox). > I know extensions and themes are version specific, VERY specific ! I hit that snag trying to use Firefox 1.0 extensions in Firefox 1.0 Preview. They wouldn't install, I had to search for Firefox 1.0PR extensions. I found these by digging in the Moz site, though of course Firefox is what they're pushing. http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/ http://mozilla.gunnars.net/ http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mozilla_Suite http://kb.mozillazine.org/Links_%28Mozilla_Suite%29 AAAaarrgh! I hate the way it "escapes" link addresses when copy/pasting to text. Here's what it actually looks like - http://kb.mozillazine.org/Links_(Mozilla_Suite) http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Mozilla_Suite -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live CD linux 2.4.27 kernel 500MB Linux Rules ! From pirrone at localnet.com Sun Mar 20 19:39:18 2005 From: pirrone at localnet.com (pirrone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Firefox mailto problem In-Reply-To: <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> References: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <423E17B6.8000205@localnet.com> S. Lawton wrote: >On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:49:53 -0500 >Joe wrote about Firefox mailto problem: > > > >>Hi. I have Firefox 1.0.1 on Linux. I just clicked on a mailto: link >>and got some disk activity, but nothing else. How do I get it to go >>to Mozilla Messenger or Thunderbird? >> >> >> >I can't tell you exactly right now, because Puppy only has Firefox and >Sylpheed, but in your prefs you need to direct it to the DEFAULT Mail >Application. Choose either MozMessenger or Tbird, and it should work. >When I reboot M$ I can tell more. I have Advanced browser set to use Moz >Mail, Netscape using Tbird, and Firebird using Netscape Mail, just to >keep IE, which I never use, away fom it all. The point is, if you run >more than one browser like me, each will have it's own default mail app. > > > > >>Related questions: >>Now that Firefox is all the rage, what does that mean for Mozilla >>development? I know the underlying code is the same, but is Mozilla >>as an application going away? >> >> >> >It's looking like this might be the death of the dinosaur as we know it, >the integrated suite, anyhow. >I guess my Mozilla T-Shirt will be a collectors item, like the Mozilla >2002build I still run from Win95. >I wonder what Netscape will do ? > > > >>Where do I ask Mozilla questions? I went to Mozillazine and only >>Firefox was there and the plugins I tried to install did nothing (even >> >>in Firefox). >> >> >> >I know extensions and themes are version specific, VERY specific ! >I hit that snag trying to use Firefox 1.0 extensions in Firefox 1.0 >Preview. They wouldn't install, I had to search for Firefox 1.0PR >extensions. > >I found these by digging in the Moz site, though of course Firefox is >what they're pushing. > >http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/ >http://mozilla.gunnars.net/ >http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mozilla_Suite >http://kb.mozillazine.org/Links_%28Mozilla_Suite%29 >AAAaarrgh! I hate the way it "escapes" link addresses when copy/pasting >to text. >Here's what it actually looks like - >http://kb.mozillazine.org/Links_(Mozilla_Suite) >http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Mozilla_Suite > > > > Gentlemen: Haven't followed this thread but if I understand the contents of this message go to ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.xxx/ and in user.js (create if not present) enter a path-correct version of the statement below: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto", "/usr/lib/thunderbird/email"); Frank -- humans may reply by deleting the x from my address From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Mon Mar 21 15:45:14 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting In-Reply-To: <002801c52e46$db823860$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> References: <002801c52e46$db823860$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <423F325A.1010708@thecybersource.com> I'd go if it wasn't a Thursday night. Definately never gonna work for me at least. -Jesse Mark Musone wrote: > Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting > > Date: Thursday, March 31st 6:00pm-9:00pm > > Location: > > The PCA Group > > Airport Commerce Park > > 455 Cayuga Road, Suite 200 > > Topic: > > Linux System Monitoring: How to monitor Linux servers and non-Linux > servers using Open Source tools to ensure reliability. > > Agenda: > > 6:00pm-7:00pm Overview of monitoring concepts and tools > > Concepts: > > Service monitoring > > Process monitoring > > Passive checks > > Active checks > > Dependencies > > Monitoring agents > > Downtime > > Performance data > > Check frequency > > Alerting > > Notifications > > Reporting > > Remote Monitoring > > Tools: > > Big Brother > > Big Sister > > SPONG > > Nagios > > Mon > > mrtg > > rrdtool > > 7:15pm-8:00pm > > Case Studies/Presentations: > > Dennis Ruzeski, Kanoodle > > Phil Seibel, Synacor > > 8:15pm-9:00pm > > Advanced Topics: > > Redundant/Distributed monitoring > > Integration with network/IDS monitoring > > Prediction > > Abnormal behavior detection > > Data Warehousing > > Trend/Forecasting > > Cross Correlation > > Because this is a new location, an RSVP is appreciated to ensure > enough seating. please send an email to rsvp@bplug.org > > The Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group is focused on the use of > Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have > organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of > interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a > corporate solution set. We disseminate practical information and > proven solutions from IT professionals who have successfully tackled a > wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. It?s a rare > opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers from > companies that are both local and national. > -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From mmusone at shatterit.com Mon Mar 21 13:50:31 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting Message-ID: <002801c52e46$db823860$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting Date: Thursday, March 31st 6:00pm-9:00pm Location: The PCA Group Airport Commerce Park 455 Cayuga Road, Suite 200 Topic: Linux System Monitoring: How to monitor Linux servers and non-Linux servers using Open Source tools to ensure reliability. Agenda: 6:00pm-7:00pm Overview of monitoring concepts and tools Concepts: Service monitoring Process monitoring Passive checks Active checks Dependencies Monitoring agents Downtime Performance data Check frequency Alerting Notifications Reporting Remote Monitoring Tools: Big Brother Big Sister SPONG Nagios Mon mrtg rrdtool 7:15pm-8:00pm Case Studies/Presentations: Dennis Ruzeski, Kanoodle Phil Seibel, Synacor 8:15pm-9:00pm Advanced Topics: Redundant/Distributed monitoring Integration with network/IDS monitoring Prediction Abnormal behavior detection Data Warehousing Trend/Forecasting Cross Correlation Because this is a new location, an RSVP is appreciated to ensure enough seating. please send an email to rsvp@bplug.org The Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group is focused on the use of Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a corporate solution set. We disseminate practical information and proven solutions from IT professionals who have successfully tackled a wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. It's a rare opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers from companies that are both local and national. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050321/7b595782/attachment.html From contactme at donmonroe.com Mon Mar 21 17:24:52 2005 From: contactme at donmonroe.com (Don Monroe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting In-Reply-To: <002801c52e46$db823860$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> References: <002801c52e46$db823860$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <423F4963.5080400@donmonroe.com> I would like to attend. Do you need more information? Best regards, Don Monroe Mark Musone wrote: > Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting > > Date: Thursday, March 31st 6:00pm-9:00pm > > Location: > > The PCA Group > > Airport Commerce Park > > 455 Cayuga Road, Suite 200 > > Topic: > > Linux System Monitoring: How to monitor Linux servers and non-Linux > servers using Open Source tools to ensure reliability. > > Agenda: > > 6:00pm-7:00pm Overview of monitoring concepts and tools > > Concepts: > > Service monitoring > > Process monitoring > > Passive checks > > Active checks > > Dependencies > > Monitoring agents > > Downtime > > Performance data > > Check frequency > > Alerting > > Notifications > > Reporting > > Remote Monitoring > > Tools: > > Big Brother > > Big Sister > > SPONG > > Nagios > > Mon > > mrtg > > rrdtool > > 7:15pm-8:00pm > > Case Studies/Presentations: > > Dennis Ruzeski, Kanoodle > > Phil Seibel, Synacor > > 8:15pm-9:00pm > > Advanced Topics: > > Redundant/Distributed monitoring > > Integration with network/IDS monitoring > > Prediction > > Abnormal behavior detection > > Data Warehousing > > Trend/Forecasting > > Cross Correlation > > Because this is a new location, an RSVP is appreciated to ensure > enough seating. please send an email to rsvp@bplug.org > > The Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group is focused on the use of > Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have > organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of > interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a > corporate solution set. We disseminate practical information and > proven solutions from IT professionals who have successfully tackled a > wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. It?s a rare > opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers from > companies that are both local and national. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 From rwechter at liberatortime.com Tue Mar 22 08:55:16 2005 From: rwechter at liberatortime.com (Ronald Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: PHP Mail Programs Message-ID: <0A778DFEE212294CBC6BD99AA0C639E91F3DFA@vltw2k01.vltw2k.local> All, Besides squirrel mail, in your experiences, what other php mailers are out there and fully featured? Ron From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue Mar 22 09:25:16 2005 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: PHP Mail Programs In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050322142516.24369.qmail@web53804.mail.yahoo.com> There is always IMP. It's harder to configure but has more options. Cheers! Bob --- Ronald Wechter wrote: > All, > > Besides squirrel mail, in your experiences, what other php mailers are out > there and fully featured? > > Ron > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From yearke at eng.buffalo.edu Tue Mar 22 09:40:40 2005 From: yearke at eng.buffalo.edu (Dave Yearke) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: PHP Mail Programs Message-ID: <200503221440.j2MEeeIR016571@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> >Besides squirrel mail, in your experiences, what other php mailers are out >there and fully featured? I've been pretty pleased with Cyrusoft's (now ISAMET's) SilkyMail: http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail/ It comes with its own pre-configured Apache browser plus PHP 3, so setting it up is pretty easy, and you don't have to hunt all over the place for plugins. I've never tried installing it into an already running web browser, though. -- Dave Yearke, yearke@eng.buffalo.edu "Remember, you may have to grow old, but you don't have to mature". -- Red Green From speljamr at speljamr.com Tue Mar 22 09:53:22 2005 From: speljamr at speljamr.com (Timothy J. Finucane) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: PHP Mail Programs In-Reply-To: <0A778DFEE212294CBC6BD99AA0C639E91F3DFA@vltw2k01.vltw2k.local> References: <0A778DFEE212294CBC6BD99AA0C639E91F3DFA@vltw2k01.vltw2k.local> Message-ID: <1111503202.5793.7.camel@bossk.local> There are a couple full featured groupware applications that include email, such as eGroupWare(http://www.egroupware.org/) and more.groupware(http://mgw.k-fish.de/). Tim On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 08:55, Ronald Wechter wrote: > All, > > Besides squirrel mail, in your experiences, what other php mailers are out > there and fully featured? > > Ron From dudek at buffalo.edu Tue Mar 22 13:23:03 2005 From: dudek at buffalo.edu (David Dudek) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: UB Only: Linux/Web Support Student Assistant Position Message-ID: For University at Buffalo students only: Linux/Web Support Assistant ***We are currently hiring for this position.*** The Linux/Web Support Assistant assists ACT staff with support of Linux and web services. Some of the tasks associated with the postion are: * assist in the creation and maintenance of UB Linux * assist in the writting perl and/or php code * provide service and support to the UB Community Minimum requirements: * must be proficient at Perl and/or PHP * must be familiar with the Linux operating system and environment * must be available to work 10-20 hours per week during fall and spring semesters, and also be available to work over summer Apply at: http://wings.buffalo.edu/computing/act/application/index.shtml -- David Thomas Dudek http://www.buffalo.edu/~dudek/ From ebenoit at hopevale.com Wed Mar 23 14:31:07 2005 From: ebenoit at hopevale.com (Eric R. Benoit) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: PHP Mail Programs In-Reply-To: <0A778DFEE212294CBC6BD99AA0C639E91F3DFA@vltw2k01.vltw2k.local> References: <0A778DFEE212294CBC6BD99AA0C639E91F3DFA@vltw2k01.vltw2k.local> Message-ID: <4241C3FB.4080401@hopevale.com> I like Horde/IMP at www.horde.org it is an involved setup but well worth it. Ronald Wechter wrote: >All, > >Besides squirrel mail, in your experiences, what other php mailers are out >there and fully featured? > >Ron > > > From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Wed Mar 23 16:17:19 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Upgrade firefox to 1.0.2/How to Message-ID: <20050323211720.34882.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is a prompt that will update your firefox automatically. Is there a way to do this in Linux version? If not what is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get do that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna make it go smooth. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From green_man at bluefrog.biz Wed Mar 23 20:36:12 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Firefox mailto problem In-Reply-To: <423E17B6.8000205@localnet.com> References: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> <423E17B6.8000205@localnet.com> Message-ID: <20050323173612.10e5ba22.green_man@bluefrog.biz> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:39:18 -0500 pirrone wrote about "Re: Firefox mailto problem": > Gentlemen: > > Haven't followed this thread but if I understand the contents of this > message go to ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.xxx/ and in user.js (create if > not present) enter a path-correct version of the statement below: > > user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto", > "/usr/lib/thunderbird/email"); > > Frank > > -- > humans may reply by deleting the x from my address > BINGO !! that's the preference key you need to edit. On this live cd everything is pre-configured, so Preferential shows it as a user defined string with the value "mailto.sh". /usr/sbin/ mailto.sh looks like this: #!/bin/sh exec sylpheed --compose "$@" So if anyone wanted Sylpheed as thier mailer, I suppose they could just use the above command. The Preferential extension makes this much easier, because it will automatically create your user.js with the appropriate keys. I'm actually listed in the Help > About > Preference Documentation for the extension, because I sent in a list of ChatZilla preference definitions to the extension creator. I stumbled onto it after doing it the hard way *in Windows* for Mozilla: 1. Create a text file with the necessary preference keys [but don't use NotePad] 2. Zip this file 3. Rename to user.js 4. Put user.js in your profile directory 5. Restart Moz so it reads the new file With Preferential, select the pref you want to change, click edit, change it, click save :-) Plus Preferential shows you the "hidden" keys you don't see in "About:Preferences" Incidentally, ChromEdit does the same type of thing for Look&Feel and behavior, without changing the Theme. Sorry, I didn't mean for this to be a "sales pitch", but these are two must-have extensions as far as I'm concerned. -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live CD http://www.goosee.com/puppy linux 2.4.27 kernel 500MB Linux Rules ! From pirrone at localnet.com Wed Mar 23 17:55:10 2005 From: pirrone at localnet.com (pirrone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Upgrade firefox to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <20050323211720.34882.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050323211720.34882.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4241F3CE.6000700@localnet.com> anthonyriga wrote: >I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is a >prompt that will update your firefox automatically. Is >there a way to do this in Linux version? If not what >is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get do >that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do >upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna make >it go smooth. > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > Anthony, Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a button to check for upgrades to browser and extensions. Frank -- humans may reply by deleting the x from my address From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 08:26:32 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050324132632.54032.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> This is the default Firefox/0.10.1 that comes with Fedora 3. I dont see that in advance settings. YOu sure its there? I want to goto 0.10.1 to 1.0.2. Do I need to uninstall 0.10.1 and install 1.0.2? --- pirrone wrote: > anthonyriga wrote: > > >I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is a > >prompt that will update your firefox automatically. > Is > >there a way to do this in Linux version? If not > what > >is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get > do > >that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do > >upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna > make > >it go smooth. > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > > > > > Anthony, > > Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a button to > check for upgrades > to browser and extensions. > > Frank > > -- > humans may reply by deleting the x from my address > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 24 09:20:50 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <20050324132632.54032.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050324132632.54032.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4242CCC2.4080701@thecybersource.com> anthonyriga wrote: >This is the default Firefox/0.10.1 that comes with >Fedora 3. I dont see that in advance settings. YOu >sure its there? I want to goto 0.10.1 to 1.0.2. Do I >need to uninstall 0.10.1 and install 1.0.2? > --- pirrone wrote: > > >>anthonyriga wrote: >> >> >> >>>I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is a >>>prompt that will update your firefox automatically. >>> >>> >>Is >> >> >>>there a way to do this in Linux version? If not >>> >>> >>what >> >> >>>is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get >>> >>> >>do >> >> >>>that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do >>>upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna >>> >>> >>make >> >> >>>it go smooth. >>> >>> >>> >>>__________________________________ >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Anthony, >> >>Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a button to >>check for upgrades >>to browser and extensions. >> >>Frank >> >>-- >>humans may reply by deleting the x from my address >> >> >> >> > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > It's in 1.0, not sure about 0.10. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 10:03:51 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050324150351.77013.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> Pete What is the corrct way to do the update? Should I uninstall Firfox and install the new version? How do I do this? Just need some goos instruction had problems last time tried this. Thanks --- Cyber Source wrote: > anthonyriga wrote: > > >This is the default Firefox/0.10.1 that comes with > >Fedora 3. I dont see that in advance settings. YOu > >sure its there? I want to goto 0.10.1 to 1.0.2. Do > I > >need to uninstall 0.10.1 and install 1.0.2? > > --- pirrone wrote: > > > > > >>anthonyriga wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is > a > >>>prompt that will update your firefox > automatically. > >>> > >>> > >>Is > >> > >> > >>>there a way to do this in Linux version? If not > >>> > >>> > >>what > >> > >> > >>>is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get > >>> > >>> > >>do > >> > >> > >>>that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do > >>>upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna > >>> > >>> > >>make > >> > >> > >>>it go smooth. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>__________________________________ > >>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > site! > >>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Anthony, > >> > >>Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a button > to > >>check for upgrades > >>to browser and extensions. > >> > >>Frank > >> > >>-- > >>humans may reply by deleting the x from my address > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > It's in 1.0, not sure about 0.10. > > -- > cybersource.us > 115 Richfield Road > Williamsville, New York 14221 > 716-553-8525 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com Thu Mar 24 10:09:40 2005 From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:36 2005 Subject: Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting Message-ID: I'll be there. >>> denisesballs@thecybersource.com 03/21/05 3:45 PM >>> I'd go if it wasn't a Thursday night. Definately never gonna work for me at least. -Jesse Mark Musone wrote: > Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting > > Date: Thursday, March 31st 6:00pm-9:00pm > > Location: > > The PCA Group > > Airport Commerce Park > > 455 Cayuga Road, Suite 200 > > Topic: > > Linux System Monitoring: How to monitor Linux servers and non-Linux > servers using Open Source tools to ensure reliability. > > Agenda: > > 6:00pm-7:00pm Overview of monitoring concepts and tools > > Concepts: > > Service monitoring > > Process monitoring > > Passive checks > > Active checks > > Dependencies > > Monitoring agents > > Downtime > > Performance data > > Check frequency > > Alerting > > Notifications > > Reporting > > Remote Monitoring > > Tools: > > Big Brother > > Big Sister > > SPONG > > Nagios > > Mon > > mrtg > > rrdtool > > 7:15pm-8:00pm > > Case Studies/Presentations: > > Dennis Ruzeski, Kanoodle > > Phil Seibel, Synacor > > 8:15pm-9:00pm > > Advanced Topics: > > Redundant/Distributed monitoring > > Integration with network/IDS monitoring > > Prediction > > Abnormal behavior detection > > Data Warehousing > > Trend/Forecasting > > Cross Correlation > > Because this is a new location, an RSVP is appreciated to ensure > enough seating. please send an email to rsvp@bplug.org > > The Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group is focused on the use of > Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have > organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of > interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a > corporate solution set. We disseminate practical information and > proven solutions from IT professionals who have successfully tackled a > wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. It's a rare > opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers from > companies that are both local and national. > -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From john at kegworks.com Thu Mar 24 10:56:01 2005 From: john at kegworks.com (John Nichel) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <20050324150351.77013.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050324150351.77013.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4242E311.9040505@kegworks.com> anthonyriga wrote: > Pete > What is the corrct way to do the update? Should I > uninstall Firfox and install the new version? How do I > do this? Just need some goos instruction had problems > last time tried this. Thanks Backup your profile; should be under something like... ~/.mozilla/firefox/yag63uft.default Something like that....just backup the whole firefox directory. Uninstall the old version. Install the new. Should work right out of the box, with all your preferences. You sure it's v0.10.1? Not 1.0.1? -- John C. Nichel ?berGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 john@kegworks.com From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 24 11:27:27 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <20050324150351.77013.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050324150351.77013.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4242EA6F.30809@thecybersource.com> apt-get install firefox. can it be much easier? -Jesse anthonyriga wrote: >Pete >What is the corrct way to do the update? Should I >uninstall Firfox and install the new version? How do I >do this? Just need some goos instruction had problems >last time tried this. Thanks > >--- Cyber Source wrote: > > >>anthonyriga wrote: >> >> >> >>>This is the default Firefox/0.10.1 that comes with >>>Fedora 3. I dont see that in advance settings. YOu >>>sure its there? I want to goto 0.10.1 to 1.0.2. Do >>> >>> >>I >> >> >>>need to uninstall 0.10.1 and install 1.0.2? >>>--- pirrone wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>anthonyriga wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is >>>>> >>>>> >>a >> >> >>>>>prompt that will update your firefox >>>>> >>>>> >>automatically. >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Is >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>there a way to do this in Linux version? If not >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>what >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>do >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do >>>>>upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>make >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>it go smooth. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>__________________________________ >>>>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources >>>>> >>>>> >>site! >> >> >>>>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Anthony, >>>> >>>>Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a button >>>> >>>> >>to >> >> >>>>check for upgrades >>>>to browser and extensions. >>>> >>>>Frank >>>> >>>>-- >>>>humans may reply by deleting the x from my address >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>__________________________________ >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>It's in 1.0, not sure about 0.10. >> >>-- >>cybersource.us >>115 Richfield Road >>Williamsville, New York 14221 >>716-553-8525 >> >> >> > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 13:30:02 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <4242EA6F.30809@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <20050324183002.21915.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> I did do apt-get to upgrade and it worked.I did notice though when you do that, the option to do automatic updates under edit>pref>advance are still not there. I uninstalled and loaded the full version of 1.0.2 and it did have the software updates option in preferences. Where should the default install of FireFox go? Just wondering what peoples preferences are? Thanks! --- Jesse Jarzynka wrote: > apt-get install firefox. can it be much easier? > -Jesse > > anthonyriga wrote: > > >Pete > >What is the corrct way to do the update? Should I > >uninstall Firfox and install the new version? How > do I > >do this? Just need some goos instruction had > problems > >last time tried this. Thanks > > > >--- Cyber Source wrote: > > > > > >>anthonyriga wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>This is the default Firefox/0.10.1 that comes > with > >>>Fedora 3. I dont see that in advance settings. > YOu > >>>sure its there? I want to goto 0.10.1 to 1.0.2. > Do > >>> > >>> > >>I > >> > >> > >>>need to uninstall 0.10.1 and install 1.0.2? > >>>--- pirrone wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>anthonyriga wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there > is > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>a > >> > >> > >>>>>prompt that will update your firefox > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>automatically. > >> > >> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Is > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>there a way to do this in Linux version? If not > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>what > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will > apt-get > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>do > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>that for me? I had problems last time tryng to > do > >>>>>upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just > wanna > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>make > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>it go smooth. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>__________________________________ > >>>>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>site! > >> > >> > >>>>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Anthony, > >>>> > >>>>Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a > button > >>>> > >>>> > >>to > >> > >> > >>>>check for upgrades > >>>>to browser and extensions. > >>>> > >>>>Frank > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>humans may reply by deleting the x from my > address > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>__________________________________ > >>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > site! > >>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>It's in 1.0, not sure about 0.10. > >> > >>-- > >>cybersource.us > >>115 Richfield Road > >>Williamsville, New York 14221 > >>716-553-8525 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > > > -- > Jesse Jarzynka > Cyber Source > http://www.jessejoe.com/ > http://www.thecybersource.com/ > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From john at kegworks.com Thu Mar 24 13:45:28 2005 From: john at kegworks.com (John Nichel) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <20050324183002.21915.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050324183002.21915.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42430AC8.40701@kegworks.com> anthonyriga wrote: > I did do apt-get to upgrade and it worked.I did notice > though when you do that, the option to do automatic > updates under edit>pref>advance are still not there. I > uninstalled and loaded the full version of 1.0.2 and > it did have the software updates option in > preferences. Where should the default install of > FireFox go? Just wondering what peoples preferences > are? Thanks! Really your choice, but I'll usually put something like Firefox (that can be used by multiple users) in /usr/local/share -- John C. Nichel ?berGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 john@kegworks.com From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 14:18:12 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Dual port intel pro/1000 mt Message-ID: <20050324191813.74423.qmail@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone ever install gigabyte dual port nic cards in Fedora 3? I have done it with winblows and teamed the nic (to make the 2 ports act as one) to do load balancing . Is ther a way of doing this in Linux? We are setting up Cisco gig switches so need to install new cards. Any suggestions? Thanks! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From green_man at bluefrog.biz Thu Mar 24 10:49:12 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Firefox mailto problem In-Reply-To: <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> References: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <20050324204912.5a38585b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Here's another site I have found useful in the past for Moz and Netscape info. http://sillydog.org/narchive/gecko.php -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live CD http://www.goosee.com/puppy linux 2.4.27 kernel 500MB Linux Rules ! From green_man at bluefrog.biz Thu Mar 24 11:32:53 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: bashrc question Message-ID: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Is .bashrc shell specific or is it a "generic" file ? i apparently don't have one currently. When I open rvxt, this is on the top of the screen: BusyBox v0.60.5 (2004.09.18-02:04+0000) Built-in shell (ash) Many of the common commands in bin and sbin are actually links to BusyBox. Is ash different from bash ? As this is a live cd, could this just be a typographical error ? What I really want to know is, if I make a bashrc would it be used, or if ash is different, what file do I need to put in ~ to change the command prompt ? I have never tried to edit bashrc before, because in other distros the command prompt has always been of the form: login name current directory, or something similar. Puppy has nothing but a prompt character in a terminal, so I figured this would be a good time to try, but the file's not there. -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live CD http://www.goosee.com/puppy linux 2.4.27 kernel 500MB Linux Rules ! From deadpoint at adelphia.net Thu Mar 24 22:00:47 2005 From: deadpoint at adelphia.net (deadpoint) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: bashrc question In-Reply-To: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> References: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <42437EDF.6070303@adelphia.net> busybox is an all-in-one executable meant which performs the function of other programs, like ls, cd, mv, sh, etc. it's usually only used on systems with little disk space, like distributions on a floppy. .bashrc is a user specific bash config file, where /etc/bash/bash.bashrc is the system default bashrc. darin S. Lawton wrote: > Is .bashrc shell specific or is it a "generic" file ? > i apparently don't have one currently. > When I open rvxt, this is on the top of the screen: > > BusyBox v0.60.5 (2004.09.18-02:04+0000) Built-in shell (ash) > > Many of the common commands in bin and sbin are actually links to > BusyBox. > Is ash different from bash ? As this is a live cd, could this just be a > typographical error ? > What I really want to know is, if I make a bashrc would it be used, or > if ash is different, what file do I need to put in ~ to change the > command prompt ? > > I have never tried to edit bashrc before, because in other distros the > command prompt has always been of the form: login name current > directory, or something similar. Puppy has nothing but a prompt > character in a terminal, so I figured this would be a good time to try, > but the file's not there. > From josephj at main.nc.us Fri Mar 25 10:15:27 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: backup problem using rsync Message-ID: <42442B0F.8000609@main.nc.us> Hi. I have a backup routine using rsync that runs from /etc/cron.daily. I've been using this script for about a year with no problems until recently. Lately, I was having some intermittent trouble with hdb1 not being found in the bios, but it's mounted now. Below is my daily backup script and the output it reports (errors). Any ideas on what's wrong and how to fix it would be appreciated. Joe fstab /dev/hda7 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda6 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sda1 /mnt/card vfat codepage=850,umask=0,rw,user,noauto 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos_hda1 vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/dos_hda5 vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,defaults 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/portable ext3 rw,users,noauto,exec,suid 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0 [root@localhost bin]# cat dailyback1 #!/bin/bash # Dailyback1 - (C) 09/24/03 - JPmicrosystems # Backup /home to big portable drive using rsync #This script does the actual work once invoked by su in dailyback0 (to get access to everything) # First, make sure the portable drive is mounted df | grep 'hdb1' > /tmp/backuptmp if [ -s /tmp/backuptmp ] then echo /mnt/portable already mounted else mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/portable status=$? if [ $status != 0 ] then echo "Couldn't mount hdb1 = status was $status" exit $status fi fi echo "Backing up /home with rsync" echo "Backup of /home - `date`" > /mnt/portable/rsync.log /usr/bin/rsync -n -a -H -z -P --delete --no-whole-file --stats /home /mnt/portable/homersync >> /mnt/portable/rsync.log status=$? echo "Backup Ended /home - `date`" >> /mnt/portable/rsync.log [root@localhost bin]# cat dailyback1 #!/bin/bash # Dailyback1 - (C) 09/24/03 - JPmicrosystems # Backup /home to big portable drive using rsync #This script does the actual work once invoked by su in dailyback0 (to get access to everything) # First, make sure the portable drive is mounted df | grep 'hdb1' > /tmp/backuptmp if [ -s /tmp/backuptmp ] then echo /mnt/portable already mounted else mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/portable status=$? if [ $status != 0 ] then echo "Couldn't mount hdb1 = status was $status" exit $status fi fi echo "Backing up /home with rsync" echo "Backup of /home - `date`" > /mnt/portable/rsync.log /usr/bin/rsync -n -a -H -z -P --delete --no-whole-file --stats /home /mnt/portable/homersync >> /mnt/portable/rsync.log status=$? echo "Backup Ended /home - `date`" >> /mnt/portable/rsync.log if [ $status -eq 0 ] then echo echo "Backup of /home successfully completed" echo else echo "Backup of /home FAILED with status $status" exit $status fi exit $status [root@localhost bin]# ./dailyback1 /mnt/portable already mounted Backing up /home with rsync readlink home/bigbird/.gconf/apps/gnome-settings/gedit/%gconf.xml: Input/output error readlink home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/Mail/buncombe.main.nc.us/Health.sbd/Psych.msf: Input/output error readlink home/bigbird/.fpm/fpm: Input/output error rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(620) Backup of /home FAILED with status 23 [root@localhost bin]# cat /mnt/portable/rsync.log Backup of /home - Fri Mar 25 09:54:31 EST 2005 building file list ... 31419 files to consider home/bigbird/.kde/share/apps/kalarmd/clients home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/Mail/Local Folders/Junk.msf home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/panacea.dat home/bigbird/.signature rsync[6738] (server receiver) heap statistics: arena: 7172760 (bytes from sbrk) ordblks: 3377 (chunks not in use) smblks: 2 hblks: 1 (chunks from mmap) hblkhd: 2265088 (bytes from mmap) usmblks: 0 fsmblks: 40 uordblks: 3809968 (bytes used) fordblks: 3362792 (bytes free) keepcost: 128720 (bytes in releasable chunk) rsync[6736] (sender) heap statistics: arena: 3547800 (bytes from sbrk) ordblks: 62 (chunks not in use) smblks: 0 hblks: 0 (chunks from mmap) hblkhd: 0 (bytes from mmap) usmblks: 0 fsmblks: 0 uordblks: 3380624 (bytes used) fordblks: 167176 (bytes free) keepcost: 127752 (bytes in releasable chunk) Number of files: 31419 Number of files transferred: 4 Total file size: 2359134213 bytes Total transferred file size: 69856 bytes Literal data: 0 bytes Matched data: 0 bytes File list size: 936488 Total bytes written: 936520 Total bytes read: 36 wrote 936520 bytes read 36 bytes 30706.75 bytes/sec total size is 2359134213 speedup is 2518.95 Backup Ended /home - Fri Mar 25 09:55:02 EST 2005 [root@localhost bin]# if [ $status -eq 0 ] then echo echo "Backup of /home successfully completed" echo else echo "Backup of /home FAILED with status $status" exit $status fi exit $status [root@localhost bin]# ./dailyback1 /mnt/portable already mounted Backing up /home with rsync readlink home/bigbird/.gconf/apps/gnome-settings/gedit/%gconf.xml: Input/output error readlink home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/Mail/buncombe.main.nc.us/Health.sbd/Psych.msf: Input/output error readlink home/bigbird/.fpm/fpm: Input/output error rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(620) Backup of /home FAILED with status 23 [root@localhost bin]# cat /mnt/portable/rsync.log Backup of /home - Fri Mar 25 09:54:31 EST 2005 building file list ... 31419 files to consider home/bigbird/.kde/share/apps/kalarmd/clients home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/Mail/Local Folders/Junk.msf home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/panacea.dat home/bigbird/.signature rsync[6738] (server receiver) heap statistics: arena: 7172760 (bytes from sbrk) ordblks: 3377 (chunks not in use) smblks: 2 hblks: 1 (chunks from mmap) hblkhd: 2265088 (bytes from mmap) usmblks: 0 fsmblks: 40 uordblks: 3809968 (bytes used) fordblks: 3362792 (bytes free) keepcost: 128720 (bytes in releasable chunk) rsync[6736] (sender) heap statistics: arena: 3547800 (bytes from sbrk) ordblks: 62 (chunks not in use) smblks: 0 hblks: 0 (chunks from mmap) hblkhd: 0 (bytes from mmap) usmblks: 0 fsmblks: 0 uordblks: 3380624 (bytes used) fordblks: 167176 (bytes free) keepcost: 127752 (bytes in releasable chunk) Number of files: 31419 Number of files transferred: 4 Total file size: 2359134213 bytes Total transferred file size: 69856 bytes Literal data: 0 bytes Matched data: 0 bytes File list size: 936488 Total bytes written: 936520 Total bytes read: 36 wrote 936520 bytes read 36 bytes 30706.75 bytes/sec total size is 2359134213 speedup is 2518.95 Backup Ended /home - Fri Mar 25 09:55:02 EST 2005 [root@localhost bin]# -- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell From josephj at main.nc.us Fri Mar 25 11:17:22 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: bashrc question In-Reply-To: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> References: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <42443992.4070801@main.nc.us> Don't know your answer, but ... Have you tried man ash? I don' t do much with bashrc, but I have a handful of small scripts I put there to use like shortcuts. Here's an example: # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi . . . bin() { cd $HOME/bin echo -en "\t\t" pwd } which is a little function which switches me to my bin directory and tells me what it did. [bigbird@localhost bigbird]$ bin /home/bigbird/bin [bigbird@localhost bin]$ Joe S. Lawton wrote: >Is .bashrc shell specific or is it a "generic" file ? >i apparently don't have one currently. >When I open rvxt, this is on the top of the screen: > >BusyBox v0.60.5 (2004.09.18-02:04+0000) Built-in shell (ash) > >Many of the common commands in bin and sbin are actually links to >BusyBox. >Is ash different from bash ? As this is a live cd, could this just be a >typographical error ? >What I really want to know is, if I make a bashrc would it be used, or >if ash is different, what file do I need to put in ~ to change the >command prompt ? > >I have never tried to edit bashrc before, because in other distros the >command prompt has always been of the form: login name current >directory, or something similar. Puppy has nothing but a prompt >character in a terminal, so I figured this would be a good time to try, >but the file's not there. > > > -- "Determine that a thing can and shall be done, and then we shall find the way." - Abraham Lincoln From green_man at bluefrog.biz Fri Mar 25 06:39:28 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: bashrc question In-Reply-To: <42437EDF.6070303@adelphia.net> References: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> <42437EDF.6070303@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20050325163928.2557f1be.green_man@bluefrog.biz> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:00:47 -0500 deadpoint wrote about "Re: bashrc question": > busybox is an all-in-one executable meant which performs the function of > other programs, like ls, cd, mv, sh, etc. it's usually only used on > systems with little disk space, like distributions on a floppy. .bashrc > is a user specific bash config file, where /etc/bash/bash.bashrc is the > system default bashrc. > > darin Ah ! That explains it all. Puppy Linux is a business card sized linux live CD. It all runs inside a ram loop. My /etc is actually a link to /~/.etc that they did for backup purposes. I guess if I want to try to screw up a .bashrc, I'll have to do it on a full size distro that actually use bash. :-) Thanks for the explanation. Current uptime for this Live Cd is 11 days and counting, longer than I've ever had Windows continuosly booted ! -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live CD http://www.goosee.com/puppy linux 2.4.27 kernel 500MB Linux Rules ! From niterav at adelphia.net Sat Mar 26 14:41:22 2005 From: niterav at adelphia.net (niterav@adelphia.net) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <1843352.1111866082859.JavaMail.root@web1.mail.adelphia.net> help From niterav at adelphia.net Sat Mar 26 14:42:29 2005 From: niterav at adelphia.net (niterav@adelphia.net) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <1878577.1111866149840.JavaMail.root@web1.mail.adelphia.net> unsubscribe nflug From niterav at sherman2k.com Sat Mar 26 14:47:24 2005 From: niterav at sherman2k.com (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: 21" Monitor Needs a Home Message-ID: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> All, I have a Sony Trinitron Flat CRT 21" Monitor (CPD-G500) that needs a home - Displays the Linux CLI beautifully (even for those who use glasses - You might not even need them anymore!). If you know of such a place please email me. Thanks, Ron niterav@sherman2k.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050326/9b6c78bf/attachment.html From sfielding7 at cogeco.ca Sat Mar 26 14:59:38 2005 From: sfielding7 at cogeco.ca (Stephen) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: 21" Monitor Needs a Home In-Reply-To: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <4245BF2A.1000501@cogeco.ca> What price are you asking for the monitor I have someone interested in a large monitor thanks Stephen Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > All, > > > > I have a Sony Trinitron Flat CRT 21? Monitor (CPD-G500) that needs a > home ? Displays the Linux CLI beautifully (even for those who use > glasses ? You might not even need them anymore!). If you know of such a > place please email me. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ron > > niterav@sherman2k.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 -- Hamilton ON -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 From sfielding7 at cogeco.ca Sat Mar 26 15:05:05 2005 From: sfielding7 at cogeco.ca (Stephen) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: In-Reply-To: <1878577.1111866149840.JavaMail.root@web1.mail.adelphia.net> References: <1878577.1111866149840.JavaMail.root@web1.mail.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <4245C071.1030006@cogeco.ca> Hi go to www.nflug.org select mailing list and send unsubscribe to list via email to address supplied we will miss you Stephen niterav@adelphia.net wrote: > unsubscribe nflug > > -- Hamilton ON -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 From fkumro at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 17:33:23 2005 From: fkumro at gmail.com (Frank Kumro) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: 21" Monitor Needs a Home In-Reply-To: <4245BF2A.1000501@cogeco.ca> References: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> <4245BF2A.1000501@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Please email me with a price :) On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:59:38 -0500, Stephen wrote: > What price are you asking for the monitor > > I have someone interested in a large monitor > > thanks > Stephen > > Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > > > All, > > > > > > > > I have a Sony Trinitron Flat CRT 21" Monitor (CPD-G500) that needs a > > home ? Displays the Linux CLI beautifully (even for those who use > > glasses ? You might not even need them anymore!). If you know of such a > > place please email me. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > niterav@sherman2k.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 > > -- > Hamilton ON > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 > > -- Frank Shenanigans!! From sfielding7 at cogeco.ca Sat Mar 26 19:59:36 2005 From: sfielding7 at cogeco.ca (Stephen) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: scsi install Message-ID: <42460578.5020701@cogeco.ca> Good day I am trying to install mandrake on a P3 733 MHz Asus CUBX system with a adaptec AHA 2940V2W scsi card device 5 is a Toshiba 640 cdrom mandrake 10 will not detect cdrom keeps asking for driver and none on list work. On some chooses it asks for a parameter I have passed the device nbr (5) but now luck. has any one set up a system with no IDE drives This inherited system has W98 running and all hardware works Thanks Stephen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 From djandruczyk at yahoo.com Sat Mar 26 20:57:13 2005 From: djandruczyk at yahoo.com (Dave Andruczyk) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: scsi install In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050327015713.41593.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> --- Stephen wrote: > Good day > > I am trying to install mandrake on a P3 733 MHz Asus CUBX system > with a adaptec AHA 2940V2W scsi card device 5 is a Toshiba 640 cdrom > mandrake 10 will not detect cdrom keeps asking for driver and none on > list work. > On some chooses it asks for a parameter I have passed the device nbr (5) > but now luck. > > has any one set up a system with no IDE drives > > This inherited system has W98 running and all hardware works > many insallers unfortunately assume the cdrom is /dev/hd?, I've come across this on several others. In every situation the easiest method was to temporarily plug in an IDE cdrom to do the install and pull it later.. Have you checked on mandrake's forums? Dave J. Andruczyk __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From sfielding7 at cogeco.ca Sat Mar 26 21:12:15 2005 From: sfielding7 at cogeco.ca (Stephen) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: scsi install In-Reply-To: <20050327015713.41593.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050327015713.41593.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4246167F.3010706@cogeco.ca> Would be nice to plug in IDE drive but user has them pluged with some unknown connector I can ot remove Dave Andruczyk wrote: > --- Stephen wrote: > >>Good day >> >>I am trying to install mandrake on a P3 733 MHz Asus CUBX system >>with a adaptec AHA 2940V2W scsi card device 5 is a Toshiba 640 cdrom >>mandrake 10 will not detect cdrom keeps asking for driver and none on >>list work. >>On some chooses it asks for a parameter I have passed the device nbr (5) >>but now luck. >> >>has any one set up a system with no IDE drives >> >>This inherited system has W98 running and all hardware works >> > > > many insallers unfortunately assume the cdrom is /dev/hd?, I've come across > this on several others. In every situation the easiest method was to > temporarily plug in an IDE cdrom to do the install and pull it later.. > Have you checked on mandrake's forums? > > > Dave J. Andruczyk > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > -- Hamilton ON -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 From peter at thecybersource.com Sat Mar 26 22:00:43 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: scsi install In-Reply-To: <4246167F.3010706@cogeco.ca> References: <20050327015713.41593.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> <4246167F.3010706@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <424621DB.2020506@thecybersource.com> Stephen wrote: > Would be nice to plug in IDE drive but user has them pluged with some > unknown connector I can ot remove > > Dave Andruczyk wrote: > >> --- Stephen wrote: >> >>> Good day >>> >>> I am trying to install mandrake on a P3 733 MHz Asus CUBX system >>> with a adaptec AHA 2940V2W scsi card device 5 is a Toshiba 640 cdrom >>> mandrake 10 will not detect cdrom keeps asking for driver and none >>> on list work. >>> On some chooses it asks for a parameter I have passed the device nbr >>> (5) but now luck. >>> >>> has any one set up a system with no IDE drives >>> >>> This inherited system has W98 running and all hardware works >>> >> >> >> many insallers unfortunately assume the cdrom is /dev/hd?, I've come >> across >> this on several others. In every situation the easiest method was to >> temporarily plug in an IDE cdrom to do the install and pull it later.. >> Have you checked on mandrake's forums? >> >> >> Dave J. Andruczyk >> >> >> >> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small >> Business - Try our new resources site! >> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >> > I just spent all morning on something similar. I have an external USB 2.0 hard drive enclosure for an IDE device that I wanted to put a hard drive in and have it boot FC3. Very long story short, after some googling, I learned some really cool tricks. Now I can take this USB device with my FC3 drive in to ANY pc that can boot from USB (most newer pc's) AND I can also boot to the existing from it with another stanza in GRUB. Anyway, I did a dump from our tweaked system drive but in order to boot from the device I needed to have the usb-storage driver loaded by the initrd image, so (I didnt know this before, thought I needed stuff in modprobe.conf) but with one command line like "mkinitrd --preload=ehci-hcd --preload=usb-storage --preload=scsi_mod --preload=sd_mod /boot/initrdXXX.img XXXX" where XXX is the number of the kernel. That one line made the new initrd image to boot the USB drive and load the stuff necessary to boot from it, too damn cool. In your instance, you might try passing something along in the boot line to begin the install, for instance, for FC3, even if I wanted to install to this drive, it wouldn't see the drive (or load usb-storage) unless I started the install with "linux expert", funny thing is, the rescue cd loads it fine. I found that googlin too, try "linux expert" at the command line to begin the install, it may work for mandrake too. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From adventsystems at verizon.net Sun Mar 27 14:49:50 2005 From: adventsystems at verizon.net (Advent Systems) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: 21" Monitor Needs a Home In-Reply-To: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <42470E5E.2010305@verizon.net> I'm looking for one. What is condition and price? Thanks, Bob Randal adventsystems@verizon.net Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > All, > > I have a Sony Trinitron Flat CRT 21? Monitor (CPD-G500) that needs a > home ? Displays the Linux CLI beautifully (even for those who use > glasses ? You might not even need them anymore!). If you know of such > a place please email me. > > Thanks, > > Ron > > niterav@sherman2k.com > From ron_browning14223 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 27 15:02:33 2005 From: ron_browning14223 at yahoo.com (ron browning) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: 21" Monitor Needs a Home In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050327200233.18866.qmail@web21322.mail.yahoo.com> Since I had laser eye surgery 12 times in the last two years! I too am interested. Phone is 875-5167. --- "Ronald K. Wechter" wrote: > All, > > > > I have a Sony Trinitron Flat CRT 21" Monitor > (CPD-G500) that needs a home - > Displays the Linux CLI beautifully (even for those > who use glasses - You > might not even need them anymore!). If you know of > such a place please > email me. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ron > > niterav@sherman2k.com > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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To get the browser plugin working link ln-s /usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Mon Mar 28 13:37:03 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Adobe Reader 7.0 link Message-ID: <20050328183704.53131.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-1.i386.rpm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Mon Mar 28 14:19:16 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Adobe Reader 7.0 link In-Reply-To: <20050328183704.53131.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050328183704.53131.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <424858B4.6060806@thecybersource.com> anthonyriga wrote: >ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-1.i386.rpm > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > It is a lot nicer than say the old Adobe Reader. Loads a million times faster and uses gtk-2. However it isn't official yet and still testing and of course isn't gpl. GGV and XPDF seem to work fine but it is cool to see this coming out, and working particularly fast and well. -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From Ted.Draper at trekinc.com Mon Mar 28 14:42:42 2005 From: Ted.Draper at trekinc.com (Ted Draper) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Adobe Reader 7.0 link Message-ID: <1B738B52F76670479061F519B5A3781E0473D5@trekmail.trek.trekinc.com> Question for the group. I just recently installed Fedora 3.0 on a computer and just want to use it to explore the web. problem is, I'm new to Linux (never used before)and installing modem and the like is proving to be a challenge. I did find the right drivers for my modems chipset and installed them on the computer. I don't use a network, and my modem is a dial up. I use netzero to surf the web with windows, and a version doesn't exist for Fedora, just Debian. Can I connect to the web somehow by using a terminal and just put my access numbers to netzero in it? If so, can you point me in the right direction on HOW to do just that? I did download a program called Alien that is suppose to convert .deb files to .rpm files. I hope that works. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Jesse Jarzynka Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 2:19 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Adobe Reader 7.0 link anthonyriga wrote: >ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-1.i386.rpm > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > It is a lot nicer than say the old Adobe Reader. Loads a million times faster and uses gtk-2. However it isn't official yet and still testing and of course isn't gpl. GGV and XPDF seem to work fine but it is cool to see this coming out, and working particularly fast and well. -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From peter at thecybersource.com Mon Mar 28 15:10:44 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: modem thread In-Reply-To: <1B738B52F76670479061F519B5A3781E0473D5@trekmail.trek.trekinc.com> References: <1B738B52F76670479061F519B5A3781E0473D5@trekmail.trek.trekinc.com> Message-ID: <424864C4.7040905@thecybersource.com> Ted Draper wrote: >Question for the group. I just recently installed Fedora 3.0 on a computer and just want to use it to explore the web. problem is, I'm new to Linux (never used before)and installing modem and the like is proving to be a challenge. I did find the right drivers for my modems chipset and installed them on the computer. I don't use a network, and my modem is a dial up. I use netzero to surf the web with windows, and a version doesn't exist for Fedora, just Debian. Can I connect to the web somehow by using a terminal and just put my access numbers to netzero in it? If so, can you point me in the right direction on HOW to do just that? I did download a program called Alien that is suppose to convert .deb files to .rpm files. I hope that works. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of >Jesse Jarzynka >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 2:19 PM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: Re: Adobe Reader 7.0 link > > >anthonyriga wrote: > > > >>ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-1.i386.rpm >> >> >> >>__________________________________ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >>http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 >> >> >> >> >It is a lot nicer than say the old Adobe Reader. Loads a million times >faster and uses gtk-2. However it isn't official yet and still testing >and of course isn't gpl. GGV and XPDF seem to work fine but it is cool >to see this coming out, and working particularly fast and well. > > The only compatibility I have seen for netzero is with Linspire's custom Linux, they made an very complicated way to authenticate via software, netzero doesnt use straight PAP or CHAP authentication. If you have your modem working your almost there but you won't connect to netzero. Cyber Source offers a dial-up service with a special rate to NFLUG list members at $14.95 per month for 24/7 connectivity with Linux or Windows. Let me know if your interested. Thanks -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From linux478 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 08:15:55 2005 From: linux478 at yahoo.com (Michael Phillips) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: /etc/fstab Message-ID: <20050329131555.41871.qmail@web54102.mail.yahoo.com> In the /etc/fstab, how do I setup a mount point to 755 for directories and 744 for files? Also the drive is fat32. TIA Michael __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Tue Mar 29 08:34:57 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: maillog Message-ID: <42495981.8070801@Dynabrade.com> I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info for each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what date. As it is usually there is one line for receiving and one line for sending. I'd like to see one line with a to and from. -- Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 29 08:49:29 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: /etc/fstab In-Reply-To: <20050329131555.41871.qmail@web54102.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050329131555.41871.qmail@web54102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42495CE9.4080906@thecybersource.com> Michael Phillips wrote: >In the /etc/fstab, how do I setup a mount point to 755 for directories and 744 >for files? Also the drive is fat32. > >TIA > >Michael > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > That would be with the options umask (overall perms) dmask (directory perms) and fmask (file perms). Check the man page on mount for all the options. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From arctic91 at Buffalo.com Tue Mar 29 08:55:32 2005 From: arctic91 at Buffalo.com (arctic 91) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Test Message-ID: <20050329135533.BCF17CC07F@ws4-3.us4.outblaze.com> Unsubscribe -- _______________________________________________ http://www.Buffalo.com , WNY's #1 Website Powered by Outblaze From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 29 09:14:06 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: maillog In-Reply-To: <42495981.8070801@Dynabrade.com> References: <42495981.8070801@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <424962AE.4070607@thecybersource.com> Justin Bennett wrote: > I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info > for each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what > date. As it is usually there is one line for receiving and one line > for sending. I'd like to see one line with a to and from. > a small script with grep should suffice for that. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From lspironello at hotmail.com Tue Mar 29 09:33:50 2005 From: lspironello at hotmail.com (Louis Spironello) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: maillog In-Reply-To: <42495981.8070801@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: >From: Justin Bennett >Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: maillog >Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:34:57 -0500 > >I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info for >each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what date. As it >is usually there is one line for receiving and one line for sending. I'd >like to see one line with a to and from. Hello Justin: A few good utilities for parsing most log files are: awk sed perl Awk can quickly parse out info by fields, records, etc. You may wish to check out the following article found at Oreilly's site: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/linux/2002/11/01/awk3.html Lou >-- >Justin Bennett >Network Administrator >Dynabrade, Inc. >8989 Sheridan Dr. >Clarence, NY 14031 > > From phat1801 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 10:16:20 2005 From: phat1801 at yahoo.com (Jeff Ford) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:37 2005 Subject: Unsubscribe Message-ID: <20050329151620.73938.qmail@web54107.mail.yahoo.com> Unsubscribe nflug ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Tue Mar 29 10:22:38 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: maillog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <424972BE.70302@Dynabrade.com> I got it, it was a little of a pain. I have to read the file once for the from user I want, then read it again looking for the message id to get the to address. Thanks Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/29/2005 9:33 AM, Louis Spironello wrote: > > >> From: Justin Bennett >> Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org >> To: nflug@nflug.org >> Subject: maillog >> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:34:57 -0500 >> >> I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info >> for each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what >> date. As it is usually there is one line for receiving and one line >> for sending. I'd like to see one line with a to and from. > > Hello Justin: > > A few good utilities for parsing most log files are: > awk > sed > perl > > Awk can quickly parse out info by fields, records, etc. > > You may wish to check out the following article found at Oreilly's site: > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/linux/2002/11/01/awk3.html > > Lou > > >> -- >> Justin Bennett >> Network Administrator >> Dynabrade, Inc. >> 8989 Sheridan Dr. >> Clarence, NY 14031 >> >> > > From mmusone at shatterit.com Tue Mar 29 10:29:46 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: maillog In-Reply-To: <42495981.8070801@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <000001c53474$23ace030$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> What mail software are you using? most of the standard mail programs already have software that will generate that either as part of the program or as some add-on. -Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Justin Bennett Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:35 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: maillog I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info for each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what date. As it is usually there is one line for receiving and one line for sending. I'd like to see one line with a to and from. -- Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Tue Mar 29 10:47:21 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: maillog In-Reply-To: <000001c53474$23ace030$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> References: <000001c53474$23ace030$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <42497889.8080403@Dynabrade.com> sendmail Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/29/2005 10:29 AM, Mark Musone wrote: >What mail software are you using? most of the standard mail programs already >have software that will generate that either as part of the program or as >some add-on. > >-Mark > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of >Justin Bennett >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:35 AM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: maillog > >I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info for >each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what date. As >it is usually there is one line for receiving and one line for sending. >I'd like to see one line with a to and from. > > > From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 29 11:14:51 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: asterisk stuff Message-ID: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> Hello All, I know we all talked about this alot but we never really got a demo off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the steps necessary to get this going in an inter-office, intercom sort-of-way. If anyone would be interested in giving me a briefing over the phone or in person, please let me know. TIA. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 11:25:30 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> References: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <4249817A.2080008@gmail.com> Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box running and working with his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at that meeting he is the best person to ask. Josh Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > I know we all talked about this alot but we never really got a demo > off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the steps necessary to > get this going in an inter-office, intercom sort-of-way. If anyone > would be interested in giving me a briefing over the phone or in > person, please let me know. TIA. From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 29 11:55:46 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: <4249817A.2080008@gmail.com> References: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> <4249817A.2080008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42498892.1000405@thecybersource.com> Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box running and working with > his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at that meeting he is > the best person to ask. > > Josh > > Cyber Source wrote: > >> Hello All, >> I know we all talked about this alot but we never really got a demo >> off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the steps necessary to >> get this going in an inter-office, intercom sort-of-way. If anyone >> would be interested in giving me a briefing over the phone or in >> person, please let me know. TIA. > > oh I was at a couple of meetings when that was the topic and aim for a demo that never really got off the ground, I don't think you were there then. I have no preference as to whom I talk to about it, any offers are gladly taken ;) -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 12:04:10 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: <42498892.1000405@thecybersource.com> References: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> <4249817A.2080008@gmail.com> <42498892.1000405@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <42498A8A.6010103@gmail.com> TRhje one i am ytalking about i think you were watching football during :) mark brougth a miniatx in and ran it and it worked :) Cyber Source wrote: > Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > >> Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box running and working with >> his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at that meeting he is >> the best person to ask. >> >> Josh >> >> Cyber Source wrote: >> >>> Hello All, >>> I know we all talked about this alot but we never really got a demo >>> off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the steps necessary >>> to get this going in an inter-office, intercom sort-of-way. If >>> anyone would be interested in giving me a briefing over the phone or >>> in person, please let me know. TIA. >> >> >> > oh I was at a couple of meetings when that was the topic and aim for a > demo that never really got off the ground, I don't think you were > there then. I have no preference as to whom I talk to about it, any > offers are gladly taken ;) > > From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 29 12:45:37 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: <42498A8A.6010103@gmail.com> References: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> <4249817A.2080008@gmail.com> <42498892.1000405@thecybersource.com> <42498A8A.6010103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42499441.6020608@thecybersource.com> Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > TRhje one i am ytalking about i think you were watching football > during :) mark brougth a miniatx in and ran it and it worked :) > > Cyber Source wrote: > >> Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: >> >>> Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box running and working with >>> his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at that meeting he is >>> the best person to ask. >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> Cyber Source wrote: >>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> I know we all talked about this alot but we never really got a >>>> demo off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the steps >>>> necessary to get this going in an inter-office, intercom >>>> sort-of-way. If anyone would be interested in giving me a briefing >>>> over the phone or in person, please let me know. TIA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> oh I was at a couple of meetings when that was the topic and aim for >> a demo that never really got off the ground, I don't think you were >> there then. I have no preference as to whom I talk to about it, any >> offers are gladly taken ;) >> >> There is no point to that reply, im sure it works and I would like to talk to whomever can help with it. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 12:54:37 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050329175437.56240.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> joshua here is a link to Knopsterisk is a LIVE CD Linux system with a preconfigured Asterisk already installed. http://voip-forum.tmcnet.com/voip-forum/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1422 --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > TRhje one i am ytalking about i think you were > watching football during > :) mark brougth a miniatx in and ran it and it > worked :) > > Cyber Source wrote: > > > Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > > > >> Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box > running and working with > >> his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at > that meeting he is > >> the best person to ask. > >> > >> Josh > >> > >> Cyber Source wrote: > >> > >>> Hello All, > >>> I know we all talked about this alot but we > never really got a demo > >>> off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all > the steps necessary > >>> to get this going in an inter-office, intercom > sort-of-way. If > >>> anyone would be interested in giving me a > briefing over the phone or > >>> in person, please let me know. TIA. > >> > >> > >> > > oh I was at a couple of meetings when that was the > topic and aim for a > > demo that never really got off the ground, I don't > think you were > > there then. I have no preference as to whom I talk > to about it, any > > offers are gladly taken ;) > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 12:56:06 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: Knopsterisk Live CD In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050329175606.95156.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> has anyone ever tried Knopsterisk? Its based on Knoppix, the LIVE Linux CD. --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > TRhje one i am ytalking about i think you were > watching football during > :) mark brougth a miniatx in and ran it and it > worked :) > > Cyber Source wrote: > > > Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > > > >> Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box > running and working with > >> his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at > that meeting he is > >> the best person to ask. > >> > >> Josh > >> > >> Cyber Source wrote: > >> > >>> Hello All, > >>> I know we all talked about this alot but we > never really got a demo > >>> off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all > the steps necessary > >>> to get this going in an inter-office, intercom > sort-of-way. If > >>> anyone would be interested in giving me a > briefing over the phone or > >>> in person, please let me know. TIA. > >> > >> > >> > > oh I was at a couple of meetings when that was the > topic and aim for a > > demo that never really got off the ground, I don't > think you were > > there then. I have no preference as to whom I talk > to about it, any > > offers are gladly taken ;) > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vlokstone at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 16:30:56 2005 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050329213056.85272.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Peter, not sure exactly what you'd like to do. Do you want to connect 2 offices over the internet? Do you need the phones to connect to the pots lines? I've set up asterisk using DUNDi (one in ROCH and one in BUFF) thru a vpn which is nice. How many phones do you need at each end? If this sounds like what you'd like to do or something else I'm sure I can handle it or point you in the right direction. Gimme a call kevin @ 875-4668. --- Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > I know we all talked about this alot but we never > really got a demo > off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the > steps necessary to > get this going in an inter-office, intercom > sort-of-way. If anyone would > be interested in giving me a briefing over the phone > or in person, > please let me know. TIA. > -- > cybersource.us > 115 Richfield Road > Williamsville, New York 14221 > 716-553-8525 > Free Good Fire Bad __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mmusone at shatterit.com Wed Mar 30 14:49:52 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: Reminder: BPLUG Meeting Tomorrow! Message-ID: <001c01c53561$a401d310$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Just a reminder to everyone that the Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting will be held tomorrow, Thursday, March 31st 6:00pm-9:00pm. Location: The PCA Group Airport Commerce Park 455 Cayuga Road, Suite 200 Topic: Linux System Monitoring: How to monitor Linux servers and non-Linux servers using Open Source tools to ensure reliability. If you have not done so, a response is greatly appreciated to ensure enough seating. We have already had a large number of people respond, so please email rsvp@bplug.org If you have emailed a response already, you do not need to send in another one. The Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group (www.bplug.org ) is focused on the use of Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a corporate solution set. 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Since this is my first taste of debian, I'm still rather lost, but would be much happier lost with tunes. Certainly the word "spurious" up there doesn't look too good, but I'm not sure what it means. any suggestions are most welcome. What am I missing? Thanks, S. From hawkwynd at adelphia.net Thu Mar 31 22:51:51 2005 From: hawkwynd at adelphia.net (Scott Fleming) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:56:38 2005 Subject: Now that I'm 100% Linux... Message-ID: <1112327509.4686.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Ditched the windows machines for my RH Fedora Core. I'm loving life under the penguin, but have some questions about proceedures I know are common in windows, but uncommon for me in my new linux world. 1. I have a scsi controller with 3 9gb hard drives. I would like to manage the disks, like I would with windows, having partitions and folders for the system to be able to view them in my file manager GUI thingy. Assistance with storage management under Linux would be appreciated. 2. 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Joe wrote: > While you're looking into backups, check out the rsync command. It's > fast and can be set up to back up only what has changed from the last > backup. > > Joe > > Frank Kumro wrote: > >> Im sure this topic has been discussed many times but I cannot find any >> of the old emails. I am looking for a backup solution for my linux >> machine. An extra machine is available so I would like to do backups >> and have them stored on that networked machine. Does anyone do this >> already and would like to share their wisdom? >> >> > From erek at nbtsc.org Wed Mar 2 21:43:04 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:18 2007 Subject: Backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050303024303.GB13723@nbtsc.org> If you have excess storage on the backup server, I would look into rsnapshot. It is an incremental backup script that rsyncs daily backups into different folders, using hard links so that files that didn't change are only stored once. We use it on our servers so we can restore from several backups previous. Erek On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 10:31:12AM -0500, Frank Kumro wrote: > Im sure this topic has been discussed many times but I cannot find any > of the old emails. I am looking for a backup solution for my linux > machine. An extra machine is available so I would like to do backups > and have them stored on that networked machine. Does anyone do this > already and would like to share their wisdom? > -- > Frank > Shenanigans!! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for this mailing list/group, but was just curious. Thanks! Robert Wolfe [MCP] From yearke at eng.buffalo.edu Thu Mar 3 12:36:19 2005 From: yearke at eng.buffalo.edu (Dave Yearke) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:18 2007 Subject: Sparc Message-ID: <200503031736.j23HaJqS008174@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> >Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and >running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in >the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone >running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for >this mailing list/group, but was just curious. > >Thanks! >Robert Wolfe [MCP] I've been beta-testing Solaris 10 for a few months now, and it's pretty interesting. I have been wondering if there is any interest in non-Linux, free (as in beer), Unix-like operating systems among the readers of this list. Solaris will soon be released under an open source license, but I don't know how much of a difference that makes as far as this list goes. As for U5s, they're nice workstations, and they hold up well. We have many here that have been in continuous service since they first came out, which has to be at least five years now, if memory serves me correctly (and it often doesn't). If there is interest, I'll summarize what I like and don't like about it. If not, or if this is out-of-bounds for the list, then forget I said anything. :-) -- Dave Yearke, yearke@eng.buffalo.edu "We are, after all, professionals" -- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson From djandruczyk at yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 12:54:39 2005 From: djandruczyk at yahoo.com (Dave Andruczyk) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:18 2007 Subject: Sparc In-Reply-To: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20050303175439.2670.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> --- Robert Wolfe wrote: > Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and > running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in > the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone > running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for > this mailing list/group, but was just curious. > I've got an Ultra 30 and an Ultra60, both ran linux (gentoo) I haven't tried solaris 10 yet. (don't have any ISO's yet) I'm curious to try sol10 though as I have some of the nicer 3D cards (Elite3D m3's) ===== Dave J. Andruczyk __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Thu Mar 3 13:40:41 2005 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:18 2007 Subject: Sparc In-Reply-To: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> References: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <42275A29.6040103@cognigencorp.com> i'm have a really old 25mhz sun IPX at home, it's nothing more then a paper weight now. check out blastwave.org for all of you favorite GNU packages, i'm going to maintaining some packages for them and this is shameless self promotion. i have the 4 solaris 10 iso's downloaded, i can burn them for anyone who wants them. Robert Wolfe wrote: > Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and > running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in > the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone > running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for > this mailing list/group, but was just curious. > > Thanks! > Robert Wolfe [MCP] -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From qfwfq at adelphia.net Thu Mar 3 14:16:54 2005 From: qfwfq at adelphia.net (Stephen Burke) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:18 2007 Subject: Gates has been Knigthed In-Reply-To: <2af2a0db05030309042ff0f52a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af2a0db05030309042ff0f52a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <422762A6.40809@adelphia.net> Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: >He was knigth by the queen of england BUT he can not use sir because >he is american > >"... As an American, Gates is not entitled to use "Sir" before his >name, but he can put the initials "K.B.E." - Knight Commander of the >British Empire - after it. ..." > >Still does this show how messed up the uk is where is linus's knigthship > >http://buffalonews.com/editorial/20050303/1033755.asp > Linus is not a fascist. That's why we're here. ;-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050303/4287168a/attachment-0001.html From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 15:19:53 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:18 2007 Subject: Gates has been Knigthed In-Reply-To: <422762A6.40809@adelphia.net> References: <2af2a0db05030309042ff0f52a@mail.gmail.com> <422762A6.40809@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <2af2a0db05030312193711274f@mail.gmail.com> it was a joke >:) On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:16:54 -0500, Stephen Burke wrote: > Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > He was knigth by the queen of england BUT he can not use sir because he is > american "... As an American, Gates is not entitled to use "Sir" before > his name, but he can put the initials "K.B.E." - Knight Commander of > the British Empire - after it. ..." Still does this show how messed up the > uk is where is linus's > knigthship http://buffalonews.com/editorial/20050303/1033755.asp > Linus is not a fascist. > > That's why we're here. ;-) > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From robert_todd at adelphia.net Fri Mar 4 01:19:35 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Sparc In-Reply-To: <200503031736.j23HaJqS008174@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> References: <200503031736.j23HaJqS008174@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <4227FDF7.2000608@adelphia.net> Dave Yearke wrote: >>Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and >>running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in >>the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone >>running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for >>this mailing list/group, but was just curious. >> >>Thanks! >>Robert Wolfe [MCP] >> >> > >I've been beta-testing Solaris 10 for a few months now, and it's pretty >interesting. I have been wondering if there is any interest in non-Linux, free >(as in beer), Unix-like operating systems among the readers of this list. >Solaris will soon be released under an open source license, but I don't know how >much of a difference that makes as far as this list goes. > >As for U5s, they're nice workstations, and they hold up well. We have many here >that have been in continuous service since they first came out, which has to be >at least five years now, if memory serves me correctly (and it often doesn't). > >If there is interest, I'll summarize what I like and don't like about it. If >not, or if this is out-of-bounds for the list, then forget I said anything. :-) > > > Well, perhaps I should use the mailing list capability I have with my webhosting provider in Cheektowaga to set up a Linux mailing list and a Solaris mailing list :) From robert_todd at adelphia.net Fri Mar 4 01:36:12 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Sparc In-Reply-To: <20050303175439.2670.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050303175439.2670.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <422801DC.7010909@adelphia.net> Dave Andruczyk wrote: >--- Robert Wolfe wrote: > > > >>Hi all! I just recently got a Sun UltraSparc 5 workstation up and >>running here at my home in Lancaster and was wondering if anyone else in >>the mailing list had one of these marvels as well. If so, is anyone >>running Solaris 10 on their box? I apologize if this is off-topic for >>this mailing list/group, but was just curious. >> >> >> > >I've got an Ultra 30 and an Ultra60, both ran linux (gentoo) I haven't tried >solaris 10 yet. (don't have any ISO's yet) I'm curious to try sol10 though as >I have some of the nicer 3D cards (Elite3D m3's) > > > Well, if you would like a copy of Solaris 10 on CDROM, I would be more than happy to make you a set from my set. Just email me at robert_todd@adelphia.net. From javabob at adelphia.net Fri Mar 4 05:31:18 2005 From: javabob at adelphia.net (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: EFF and Broadcast Flags Message-ID: <422838F6.3080007@adelphia.net> Thought many of the list members might be interested in this. http://www.eff.org/broadcastflag/cookbook/ Apparently, some required hardware may not be available after July 1, 2005 when broadcast flags may become "LAW". Hope this helps those that are interested. Bob From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Fri Mar 4 09:39:19 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup Message-ID: <42287317.4060102@Dynabrade.com> Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely nothing about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand alone Windows 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a Vs160 tape drive, I'm trying to use this windows backup utility to schedule a nightly backup and it doesn't look like it fired last night. It had a brand new tape in it, I think it might have to do with that. I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, that I can back the server up and restore it to another machine if it dies. Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and extract files, no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is always good too. Thanks, Justin -- Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 From ebenoit at hopevale.com Fri Mar 4 10:01:17 2005 From: ebenoit at hopevale.com (Eric) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: laptop In-Reply-To: <42275A29.6040103@cognigencorp.com> References: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> <42275A29.6040103@cognigencorp.com> Message-ID: <4228783D.4060408@hopevale.com> Does anyone have an old laptop with a cdrom I could purchase from them. 100mhz speed would be swell! I have to miniturize my current 486 clunker DNS and router Thanks, Eric From peter at thecybersource.com Fri Mar 4 10:44:12 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: laptop In-Reply-To: <4228783D.4060408@hopevale.com> References: <42274514.2020207@adelphia.net> <42275A29.6040103@cognigencorp.com> <4228783D.4060408@hopevale.com> Message-ID: <4228824C.1090003@thecybersource.com> Eric wrote: > Does anyone have an old laptop with a cdrom I could purchase from > them. 100mhz speed would be swell! > > I have to miniturize my current 486 clunker DNS and router > > Thanks, > Eric We have a Dell Inspiron 7000 that we're selling for a client of ours. Contact me offlist for the details. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From yjjeepinmike at yahoo.com Fri Mar 4 11:34:25 2005 From: yjjeepinmike at yahoo.com (Mike Leonis) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: laptop In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050304163425.86779.qmail@web60501.mail.yahoo.com> did you really mean 100mhz? i have a dell latitude cpxj gt650..... e-mail me at yjjeepinmike@yahoo.com for details. Eric wrote: Does anyone have an old laptop with a cdrom I could purchase from them. 100mhz speed would be swell! I have to miniturize my current 486 clunker DNS and router Thanks, Eric --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Stockdale IV wrote: > Thought many of the list members might be interested in this. > > http://www.eff.org/broadcastflag/cookbook/ > > Apparently, some required hardware may not be available after July 1, > 2005 when broadcast flags may become "LAW". > Hope this helps those that are interested. > Bob > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From erek at nbtsc.org Sat Mar 5 09:29:30 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <42287317.4060102@Dynabrade.com> References: <42287317.4060102@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <20050305142930.GC11939@nbtsc.org> Justin, Doesn't exactly fit your 'no's list, but I have had good results with Retrospect backup. If you can afford it, I'd strongly recommend you go with an incremental backup scheme. If the server goes entirely haywire, you' ll probably know within a day, but if the CFO accidentally deletes his pictures of his kids, it may take a few days before someone reports it. It has been great for us to be able to say "Would you like yesterday's or last week's version of your file" when someone needs a restore (Which happens suprisingly often. Maybe once every three months. Usually requested two to three days after they delete the file.) Hope this is helpful. Regards, Erek On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 09:39:19AM -0500, Justin Bennett wrote: > Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely nothing > about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand alone Windows > 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a Vs160 tape drive, I'm > trying to use this windows backup utility to schedule a nightly backup > and it doesn't look like it fired last night. It had a brand new tape in > it, I think it might have to do with that. > > I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, that I > can back the server up and restore it to another machine if it dies. > Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and extract files, > no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is always good too. > > > Thanks, > Justin > > -- > Justin Bennett > Network Administrator > Dynabrade, Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr. > Clarence, NY 14031 > > From ron_browning14223 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 22:04:49 2005 From: ron_browning14223 at yahoo.com (ron browning) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <42287317.4060102@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <20050306030449.38370.qmail@web21323.mail.yahoo.com> Get a RAID controller and mirror. M$ wont back up certain operating files (like the boot! to protect their copyright). Otherwise consider a second drive and back up data via a batch file and "scheduler". Justin Bennett wrote: Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely nothing about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand alone Windows 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a Vs160 tape drive, I'm trying to use this windows backup utility to schedule a nightly backup and it doesn't look like it fired last night. It had a brand new tape in it, I think it might have to do with that. I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, that I can back the server up and restore it to another machine if it dies. Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and extract files, no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is always good too. Thanks, Justin -- Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050306/a921d87f/attachment-0001.html From peter at thecybersource.com Sun Mar 6 11:29:15 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <422B1DE4.7000501@Dynabrade.Com> References: <20050306030449.38370.qmail@web21323.mail.yahoo.com> <422B1DE4.7000501@Dynabrade.Com> Message-ID: <422B2FDB.9020909@thecybersource.com> Justin Bennett wrote: > It's ultra320 scsi mirrored drives. The issue I have is that it's User > Filesystems, Engineering drawings actually. I just want to backup the > drawings. But I want a dependable backup, not something that I need > the backup tape, and catalogs to do restore. Soemthing that if all > hell broke loose, I could put the tape in a tape drive and pull the > data off. > > > ron browning wrote: > >> Get a RAID controller and mirror. M$ wont back up certain operating >> files (like the boot! to protect their copyright). Otherwise consider >> a second drive and back up data via a batch file >> and "scheduler". >> >> */Justin Bennett /* wrote: >> >> Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely >> nothing >> about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand alone Windows >> 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a Vs160 tape >> drive, I'm >> trying to use this windows backup utility to schedule a nightly >> backup >> and it doesn't look like it fired last night. It had a brand new >> tape in >> it, I think it might have to do with that. >> >> I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, >> that I >> can back the server up and restore it to another machine if it dies. >> Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and extract >> files, >> no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is always good too. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Justin >> >> -- >> Justin Bennett >> Network Administrator >> Dynabrade, Inc. >> 8989 Sheridan Dr. >> Clarence, NY 14031 >> >> >> ! >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! >> Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web >> > I've been following this one to see what you guys come up with as I have a similar situation. The scsi mirror will help with a hardware failure but not a software one. In my situation, I'm just thinking of using tar in a cron to backup some smb shares. Since the data is the critical thing and not the OS stuff, that'll work for me. Instead of getting all incremental too, I just create like folders for different days of the week, then do full tars to each folder respective of the day of the week, this way I have full backups with a week of tolerance, plenty of time to catch something. With the cost of hard drives today, space is cheap. Not the prettiest most well thought out plan but it works. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From erek at nbtsc.org Sun Mar 6 12:14:59 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <422B2FDB.9020909@thecybersource.com> References: <20050306030449.38370.qmail@web21323.mail.yahoo.com> <422B1DE4.7000501@Dynabrade.Com> <422B2FDB.9020909@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <20050306171458.GB15484@nbtsc.org> Depending upon how often you intend to restore individual files from backup, I would consider using rsync and/or rsnapshot to do the daily backups. This way you could use standard filesystem tools to restore files rather than having to use tar. If you do incremental rsnapshot backups, it would probably use about the same amount of space as non-incremental tar.gz files. Regards, Erek > a similar situation. The scsi mirror will help with a hardware failure > but not a software one. In my situation, I'm just thinking of using tar > in a cron to backup some smb shares. Since the data is the critical > thing and not the OS stuff, that'll work for me. Instead of getting all > incremental too, I just create like folders for different days of the > week, then do full tars to each folder respective of the day of the > week, this way I have full backups with a week of tolerance, plenty of > time to catch something. With the cost of hard drives today, space is > cheap. Not the prettiest most well thought out plan but it works. > > -- > cybersource.us > 115 Richfield Road > Williamsville, New York 14221 > 716-553-8525 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050306/932fb553/attachment-0001.pgp From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Sun Mar 6 15:54:20 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <20050306171458.GB15484@nbtsc.org> References: <20050306030449.38370.qmail@web21323.mail.yahoo.com> <422B1DE4.7000501@Dynabrade.Com> <422B2FDB.9020909@thecybersource.com> <20050306171458.GB15484@nbtsc.org> Message-ID: <422B6DFC.9080901@Dynabrade.Com> Thats a good thought, I could share the d drive on the windows server and do an smbmount on another server to backup the files. Thanks Erek Dyskant wrote: >Depending upon how often you intend to restore individual files from >backup, I would consider using rsync and/or rsnapshot to do the daily >backups. This way you could use standard filesystem tools to restore >files rather than having to use tar. > >If you do incremental rsnapshot backups, it would probably use about the >same amount of space as non-incremental tar.gz files. > >Regards, >Erek > > > >>a similar situation. The scsi mirror will help with a hardware failure >>but not a software one. In my situation, I'm just thinking of using tar >>in a cron to backup some smb shares. Since the data is the critical >>thing and not the OS stuff, that'll work for me. Instead of getting all >>incremental too, I just create like folders for different days of the >>week, then do full tars to each folder respective of the day of the >>week, this way I have full backups with a week of tolerance, plenty of >>time to catch something. With the cost of hard drives today, space is >>cheap. Not the prettiest most well thought out plan but it works. >> >>-- >>cybersource.us >>115 Richfield Road >>Williamsville, New York 14221 >>716-553-8525 >> > > > From carlyos at Buffalo.com Mon Mar 7 08:27:43 2005 From: carlyos at Buffalo.com (Carl Yost Jr) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup Message-ID: <20050307132743.72D3B11B723@ws4-1.us4.outblaze.com> Not sure if anyone hit on this with Windows backup but you need to go into the retore media manage tab and mark the media as free to use. A lot of the automated features are stripped out of MS's backup software that you would normally see. When I put in new media I also always seem to have to do a quick small backup so NTBackup will add the media to the media pool and so I can mark it free daily. I had an arcticle on how to automate more of NTBackup if I can find it again I will send it off to you. I have a windows 2003 server box I have to do this on daily. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Bennett" To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:39:19 -0500 > > Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely > nothing about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand > alone Windows 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a > Vs160 tape drive, I'm trying to use this windows backup utility to > schedule a nightly backup and it doesn't look like it fired last > night. It had a brand new tape in it, I think it might have to do > with that. > > I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, > that I can back the server up and restore it to another machine if > it dies. Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and > extract files, no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is > always good too. > > > Thanks, > Justin > > -- Justin Bennett > Network Administrator > Dynabrade, Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr. > Clarence, NY 14031 > -- _______________________________________________ http://www.Buffalo.com , WNY's #1 Website From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Mon Mar 7 09:48:08 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup In-Reply-To: <20050307132743.72D3B11B723@ws4-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050307132743.72D3B11B723@ws4-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <422C69A8.60904@Dynabrade.com> Thats the problem, the backup pool stuff, if the machine were to die and I had to releod it, could I restore from the tape without having the tape info stored on the machine? I have no experience backing up windows boxes, and thus have no faith that I would be able to get the files back in the event of a failure, so I'm going to share the windows drive mount it on my Backup server via samba, and just take a tar onto a tape of the files I need to backup. Then I feel comfortable in the even of a failure I could reinstall Windows 2003, and get the data back. Thanks for all the help! Justin Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/7/2005 8:27 AM, Carl Yost Jr wrote: >Not sure if anyone hit on this with Windows backup but you need to go into the retore media manage tab and mark the media as free to use. A lot of the automated features are stripped out of MS's backup software that you would normally see. When I put in new media I also always seem to have to do a quick small backup so NTBackup will add the media to the media pool and so I can mark it free daily. I had an arcticle on how to automate more of NTBackup if I can find it again I will send it off to you. I have a windows 2003 server box I have to do this on daily. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Justin Bennett" >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: OFF TOPIC Windows Backup >Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:39:19 -0500 > > > >>Sorry for the post but I need a little help, I know absolutely >>nothing about backing up a windows box. What I have is a stand >>alone Windows 2003 Server box I need to backup nightly. I has a >>Vs160 tape drive, I'm trying to use this windows backup utility to >>schedule a nightly backup and it doesn't look like it fired last >>night. It had a brand new tape in it, I think it might have to do >>with that. >> >>I don't have to use this, I'm just looking for something robust, >>that I can back the server up and restore it to another machine if >>it dies. Something kinda like tar. I can put it in another box and >>extract files, no cataloging, media sets, or other crap. Free is >>always good too. >> >> >>Thanks, >>Justin >> >>-- Justin Bennett >>Network Administrator >>Dynabrade, Inc. >>8989 Sheridan Dr. >>Clarence, NY 14031 >> >> >> > > > From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Tue Mar 8 08:30:48 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Smbmount / Tar Message-ID: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> Following Pete's recommendation on backing up files from windows, I'm using tar off of a smbmount file share, I'm getting file changed as we read it errors during the tar, it's always the same files, and in windows they haven't changed. I did some googleing and found that this is an issue with windows reporting the timestamp and that the file should be ok. Can anyone confirm they've see this problem? Thanks Justin -- Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 From dvmail at texas.net Tue Mar 8 08:55:53 2005 From: dvmail at texas.net (Daniel Villarreal) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Natural Language Processing - FOSS In-Reply-To: <421D26C6.10808@bluefrog.biz> References: <421D26C6.10808@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <20050308085553.1f06bce0.dvmail@texas.net> Thanks for posting this. I am trying to put together a project using OSIS and SMIL standards. It will be a challenge, but there are a lot of tools out there already. I"m studying XML right now for this. There's a lot to learn. I would like for my effort to be all Free Open-Source software, but I don't see how I can achieve this and reach MS Windows/POSIX-type users (Un*x/GNU-Linux)/Mac users... unless I use something that depends on Java. Using XML would seem to give me a lot of options, but I only found one Open Source Software package that really does what I want. Maybe XML/OSIS/SMIL will present me with future opportunities to do what I really want. Maybe I should start studying computer programming. Daniel On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:58:46 -0500 Scott Lawton wrote: > I remember some time ago there was quite a bit of traffic in the list > from someone regarding natural language software. > I found this in the Morphix derivatives list, and thought it might be of > interest. > Quote from the page: > > Morphix-NLP is a Live CD Linux distribution with a rich collection of > Natural Language Processing (NLP) applications. Though the field of NLP > has undergone decades of intensive research, software designed in the > NLP community are often scattered around the net and are not known by > the larger computer user community. Consequently, most NLP software can > not be found in mainstream distributions even years after the first > public release. ... > The link: > http://morphix-nlp.berlios.de/ From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 09:13:01 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Smbmount / Tar In-Reply-To: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> References: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <422DB2ED.6000607@thecybersource.com> Justin Bennett wrote: > Following Pete's recommendation on backing up files from windows, I'm > using tar off of a smbmount file share, I'm getting file changed as we > read it errors during the tar, it's always the same files, and in > windows they haven't changed. I did some googleing and found that this > is an issue with windows reporting the timestamp and that the file > should be ok. Can anyone confirm they've see this problem? > > Thanks > Justin > Are these system files your having the trouble with? I have seen tar complain about time stamps but usually it's an ACL thing. Are the times between your windows box and Linux box the same? I don't have the same situation (thankfully). I have a Linux server acting as a PDC and I wanted to backup the samba shares. So I had an older box with a scsi backplane that was too old for anything other than a role as a backup server, which I put into place last night and have the PDC NFS export the directories I want to backup. The backup server mounts the NFS exports and tars them up nightly to another drive on the backup server, here is a snippet of my one week tolerance from cron, #Backup Act Databases on Monday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Monday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act #Backup Act Databases on Tuesday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Tuesday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act #Backup Act Databases on Wednesday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Wednesday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act #Backup Act Databases on Thursday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Thursday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act #Backup Act Databases on Friday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Friday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act #Backup Act Databases on Saturday 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Saturday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act I just really don't like tapes and this works for me ;). -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From fkumro at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 09:11:39 2005 From: fkumro at gmail.com (Frank Kumro) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk Message-ID: I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount it with sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? -- Frank Shenanigans!! From dvmail at texas.net Tue Mar 8 09:13:50 2005 From: dvmail at texas.net (Daniel Villarreal) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Smbmount / Tar --> possible option In-Reply-To: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> References: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <20050308091350.5bab97a3.dvmail@texas.net> Since if you use MS Windows you can't be too concerned about uptime... Why not boot up with Knoppix (http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html) and scp the whole Windows setup to a Linux box. If you use a Red-Hat type OS, like CentOS (http://centos.org/), you can get NTFS modules at http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/index.html something like, depending on setup on your other computer... ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.x route add default gw 192.168.0.1 scp -c blowfish /mnt/cdrive root@192.168.0.x:/home/storage/win - or - Go get WinSCP and just SFTP to a Linux box... http://winscp.sourceforge.net/eng/index.php WinSCP is an open source SFTP client for Windows using SSH. have fun, Daniel On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:30:48 -0500 Justin Bennett wrote: > Following Pete's recommendation on backing up files from windows, I'm > using tar off of a smbmount file share, I'm getting file changed as we > read it errors during the tar, it's always the same files, and in > windows they haven't changed. I did some googleing and found that this > is an issue with windows reporting the timestamp and that the file > should be ok. Can anyone confirm they've see this problem? > > Thanks > Justin > > -- > Justin Bennett > Network Administrator > Dynabrade, Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr. > Clarence, NY 14031 > > From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Tue Mar 8 09:20:55 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Smbmount / Tar --> possible option In-Reply-To: <20050308091350.5bab97a3.dvmail@texas.net> References: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> <20050308091350.5bab97a3.dvmail@texas.net> Message-ID: <422DB4C7.70108@Dynabrade.com> It's alot of data, when all is said and done it's going to be like 70GB. I could sftp it to a linuxbox, then write it to tape from there, but then I need a staging area big enough on the backup server. I need to put it to tape becuase I need some history. From what I read the smbmount/tar timestamp issue is a known one, it's not critical but a little quirky, I'm not worried too much about it at this point. Thanks for all the posts! Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/8/2005 9:13 AM, Daniel Villarreal wrote: >Since if you use MS Windows you can't be too concerned about uptime... > >Why not boot up with Knoppix (http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html) and scp the whole Windows setup to a Linux box. > >If you use a Red-Hat type OS, like CentOS (http://centos.org/), you can get NTFS modules at http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/index.html > >something like, depending on setup on your other computer... > >ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.x >route add default gw 192.168.0.1 > >scp -c blowfish /mnt/cdrive root@192.168.0.x:/home/storage/win > >- or - > >Go get WinSCP and just SFTP to a Linux box... >http://winscp.sourceforge.net/eng/index.php > >WinSCP is an open source SFTP client for Windows using SSH. > > >have fun, >Daniel > > >On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:30:48 -0500 >Justin Bennett wrote: > > > >>Following Pete's recommendation on backing up files from windows, I'm >>using tar off of a smbmount file share, I'm getting file changed as we >>read it errors during the tar, it's always the same files, and in >>windows they haven't changed. I did some googleing and found that this >>is an issue with windows reporting the timestamp and that the file >>should be ok. Can anyone confirm they've see this problem? >> >>Thanks >>Justin >> >>-- >>Justin Bennett >>Network Administrator >>Dynabrade, Inc. >>8989 Sheridan Dr. >>Clarence, NY 14031 >> >> >> >> From john at kegworks.com Tue Mar 8 09:21:43 2005 From: john at kegworks.com (John Nichel) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422DB4F7.7040403@kegworks.com> Frank Kumro wrote: > I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to > the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount > it with > > sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ > > I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it > either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? > Add it to your fstab...something like this.... /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk vfat noauto,users,rw,umask=0 0 0 -- John C. Nichel ?berGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 john@kegworks.com From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 09:34:41 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Smbmount / Tar In-Reply-To: <422DB2ED.6000607@thecybersource.com> References: <422DA908.60503@Dynabrade.com> <422DB2ED.6000607@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <422DB801.8090706@thecybersource.com> Cyber Source wrote: > Justin Bennett wrote: > >> Following Pete's recommendation on backing up files from windows, I'm >> using tar off of a smbmount file share, I'm getting file changed as >> we read it errors during the tar, it's always the same files, and in >> windows they haven't changed. I did some googleing and found that >> this is an issue with windows reporting the timestamp and that the >> file should be ok. Can anyone confirm they've see this problem? >> >> Thanks >> Justin >> > Are these system files your having the trouble with? I have seen tar > complain about time stamps but usually it's an ACL thing. Are the > times between your windows box and Linux box the same? > I don't have the same situation (thankfully). I have a Linux server > acting as a PDC and I wanted to backup the samba shares. So I had an > older box with a scsi backplane that was too old for anything other > than a role as a backup server, which I put into place last night and > have the PDC NFS export the directories I want to backup. The backup > server mounts the NFS exports and tars them up nightly to another > drive on the backup server, here is a snippet of my one week tolerance > from cron, > #Backup Act Databases on Monday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Monday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > #Backup Act Databases on Tuesday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Tuesday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > #Backup Act Databases on Wednesday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Wednesday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > #Backup Act Databases on Thursday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Thursday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > #Backup Act Databases on Friday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Friday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > #Backup Act Databases on Saturday > 00 4 * * 1 tar -czpf /disk1/Saturday/act.tar.gz /bmhserver/public/Act > > I just really don't like tapes and this works for me ;). > for those of you that noticed, i corrected the crons with the correct day. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 09:41:26 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422DB996.2000200@thecybersource.com> Frank Kumro wrote: >I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to >the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount >it with > >sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ > >I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it >either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? > > > Your on FC3 right? You should probably update your kernel to at least 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 (that one is very stable for us) and make sure your haldaemon is running. It should auto mount and be rw and nautilus should even pop up a window showing the contents. If you have the stock kernel that came with FC3, I suspect that is your problem (if the haldaemon is running that is). -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 09:42:25 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk In-Reply-To: <422DB4F7.7040403@kegworks.com> References: <422DB4F7.7040403@kegworks.com> Message-ID: <422DB9D1.3000302@thecybersource.com> John Nichel wrote: > Frank Kumro wrote: > >> I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to >> the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount >> it with >> >> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ >> >> I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it >> either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? >> > > Add it to your fstab...something like this.... > > /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk vfat noauto,users,rw,umask=0 0 0 > If he has FC3 and I believe he does, that is all handled with haldaemon, no fstab entry is necessary. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 10:23:52 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk In-Reply-To: <422DB996.2000200@thecybersource.com> References: <422DB996.2000200@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <422DC388.9040409@thecybersource.com> Cyber Source wrote: > Frank Kumro wrote: > >> I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to >> the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount >> it with >> >> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ >> >> I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it >> either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? >> >> >> > Your on FC3 right? You should probably update your kernel to at least > 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 (that one is very stable for us) and make sure your > haldaemon is running. It should auto mount and be rw and nautilus > should even pop up a window showing the contents. If you have the > stock kernel that came with FC3, I suspect that is your problem (if > the haldaemon is running that is). > sorry again, wrong kernel wrong pc (im still on FC2). The kernel we are currently running with FC3 is 2.6.9-1.667 -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From frank at mogosystems.com Tue Mar 8 21:51:36 2005 From: frank at mogosystems.com (frank@mogosystems.com) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? Message-ID: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050308/c343047d/attachment-0001.ksh From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 22:03:54 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> References: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> Message-ID: <2af2a0db050308190319e0b2da@mail.gmail.com> DNS not updateing it has happened to me in the past On 9 Mar 2005 02:51:36 -0000, frank@mogosystems.com wrote: > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These are > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get them to > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to figure > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks, > Frank > > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From djandruczyk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 8 22:12:45 2005 From: djandruczyk at yahoo.com (Dave Andruczyk) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050309031245.58493.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> --- frank@mogosystems.com wrote: > > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These are > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get them > to > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to > figure > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? > Check your /etc/resolve.conf. it should have the IP address of your DNS server (the same one you see in network properties on your windows machine, if it has 127.0.0.1 it might mean that named has stopped running on your local machine (named is the DNS server, and by default on most distros is setup in a caching mode). try restarting named "service named restart" or "/etc/init.d.named restart" Dave J. Andruczyk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 22:21:37 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> References: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> Message-ID: <422E6BC1.6080103@thecybersource.com> frank@mogosystems.com wrote: > >I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These are >sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get them to >load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to figure >out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? > >Thanks, >Frank > > > traceroute will tell you if routers are down on the internet, "traceroute yahoo.com" will show you all the hops it takes to get there, if you get any *, that particular router is timing out, etc. Right now, I'm showing time outs on some routers, I think there is some trouble on the net tonight. If root routers go down, and they do from time to time, it can cause troubles until a different route is used, etc.. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 8 22:22:47 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> References: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> Message-ID: <422E6C07.7090909@thecybersource.com> frank@mogosystems.com wrote: > >I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These are >sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get them to >load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to figure >out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? > >Thanks, >Frank > > > here is a snippet of my results tonight, [peter@Office peter]$ traceroute yahoo.com traceroute: Warning: yahoo.com has multiple addresses; using 66.94.234.13 traceroute to yahoo.com (66.94.234.13), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 * * * 2 bflo-shasta.choiceone.net (64.65.210.18) 9.287 ms 8.370 ms 8.410 ms 3 atm6-5-1007-roc-ext-cisco.choiceone.net (64.65.210.189) 10.356 ms 10.977 ms 10.731 ms 4 nycmny1wce2-pos5-0.wcg.net (65.77.98.81) 17.977 ms 17.984 ms 17.820 ms 5 nycmny2wcx3-pos11-2.wcg.net (64.200.68.101) 19.908 ms 17.984 ms 18.944 ms 6 nycmny2wcx2-pos0-0-oc192.wcg.net (64.200.68.157) 18.388 ms 18.392 ms 19.081 ms 7 hrndva1wcx2-pos1-0-oc192.wcg.net (64.200.210.178) 24.029 ms 25.348 ms 24.216 ms 8 washdc5lch1-pos4-1.wcg.net (64.200.89.138) 24.823 ms 24.943 ms 25.039 ms 9 washdc5lce1-yahoo-gige.wcg.net (64.200.95.58) 25.202 ms 25.426 ms 24.765 ms 10 ge-0-1-4.p149.pat2.pao.yahoo.com (216.115.96.32) 89.360 ms ge-0-0-4.p806.pat2.pao.yahoo.com (216.115.98.49) 96.354 ms 97.423 ms 11 ge-0-0-3.msr1.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.64.146) 89.193 ms ge-1-0-3.msr1.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.82.197) 96.712 ms ge-0-0-2.msr2.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.64.138) 90.338 ms 12 UNKNOWN-66-218-82-238.yahoo.com (66.218.82.238) 97.087 ms vl44.bas1-m.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.82.234) 89.781 ms 97.058 ms 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From kobear at sharedbrain.net Tue Mar 8 23:04:14 2005 From: kobear at sharedbrain.net (kobear@sharedbrain.net) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> References: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> Message-ID: <1110341054.422e75be47be5@webmail.sharedbrain.net> Where are you getting your DNS servers from? DHCP from Adelphia? If so, does your Winbloze box have a different set of DNS servers assigned via DHCP than your Linux box? Adelphia has DNS servers on at least two different class A networks in the WNY area. They could be having problems with one set (?) Quoting frank@mogosystems.com: > > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These are > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get them > to > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to > figure > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks, > Frank > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From frank at mogosystems.com Tue Mar 8 23:09:31 2005 From: frank at mogosystems.com (frank@mogosystems.com) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? Message-ID: <20050309040931.16424.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050309/c65304b8/attachment-0001.ksh From robert_todd at adelphia.net Tue Mar 8 23:13:36 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:19 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? References: <20050309025136.42362.qmail@host127.ipowerweb.com> Message-ID: <009501c5245e$5e4a2390$640fa8c0@wolfe.local> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:51 PM Subject: Have I been hacked? > I have been having a problem with certain sites "not being found." These > are > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 - 4 times just to get > them to > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on PowerLink. I am trying to > figure > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have any ideas? And to think when I was at home I did not have to answer anything like this :) Yes, folks, I DO work for Adelphia and I DO support their High Speed Internet product (formerly PowerLink). I do have Adelphia HSI myself (I work there so why wouldn't I? ) What distro of Linux are you running? Robert Wolfe, Adelphia Tier 1 Chat Tech Support Agent (and PROUD User/Supporter of Aurora Linux 1.0 on a Sparc Ultra 5 ) Buffalo APCC Buffalo, NY From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Wed Mar 9 11:28:55 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050309162855.36855.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> I have notice from time to time while running Firefox on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the status bar hangs page does not show. After I refresh page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if this is the same issue u are having. --- Robert Wolfe wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:51 PM > Subject: Have I been hacked? > > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites > "not being found." These > > are > > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 > - 4 times just to get > > them to > > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on > PowerLink. I am trying to > > figure > > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have > any ideas? > > And to think when I was at home I did not have to > answer anything like this > :) Yes, folks, I DO work for Adelphia and I DO > support their High Speed > Internet product (formerly PowerLink). I do have > Adelphia HSI myself (I > work there so why wouldn't I? ) What distro of > Linux are you running? > > Robert Wolfe, Adelphia Tier 1 Chat Tech Support > Agent (and PROUD > User/Supporter of Aurora Linux 1.0 on a Sparc Ultra > 5 ) > Buffalo APCC > Buffalo, NY > > > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From lobo519 at adelphia.net Wed Mar 9 12:09:00 2005 From: lobo519 at adelphia.net (Jim) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? References: <20050309162855.36855.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601c524ca$afff8740$0300a8c0@jim> "I have notice from time to time while running Firefox > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > status bar hangs page does not show. After I refresh > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if this > is the same issue u are having." I am having that same problem! It's annoying the crap out of me. Sorry I dont mean to takeover the subject. ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthonyriga" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Have I been hacked? > I have notice from time to time while running Firefox > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > status bar hangs page does not show. After I refresh > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if this > is the same issue u are having. > --- Robert Wolfe wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:51 PM > > Subject: Have I been hacked? > > > > > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites > > "not being found." These > > > are > > > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 > > - 4 times just to get > > > them to > > > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on > > PowerLink. I am trying to > > > figure > > > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have > > any ideas? > > > > And to think when I was at home I did not have to > > answer anything like this > > :) Yes, folks, I DO work for Adelphia and I DO > > support their High Speed > > Internet product (formerly PowerLink). I do have > > Adelphia HSI myself (I > > work there so why wouldn't I? ) What distro of > > Linux are you running? > > > > Robert Wolfe, Adelphia Tier 1 Chat Tech Support > > Agent (and PROUD > > User/Supporter of Aurora Linux 1.0 on a Sparc Ultra > > 5 ) > > Buffalo APCC > > Buffalo, NY > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Wed Mar 9 12:58:53 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Firefox delays In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050309175853.70550.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> I never had the issue using Mozilla. Firefox on Win and Linux versions yes. I notoiced this the first time Firefox came out too.. What causes this delay? I have tried too the tweaks that can be done in the about config and still does the same. If I use Mozilla and Firefox at the same time the Mozilla browser reaches the web page before Fireox too. I am using Adelph DNS and have the ip in the /etc/resolv.cofig.. This happens at work too for me when I use Firefox on Win and VMware Linux.. --- Jim wrote: > "I have notice from time to time while running > Firefox > > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > > status bar hangs page does not show. After I > refresh > > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if > this > > is the same issue u are having." > > I am having that same problem! It's annoying the > crap out of me. Sorry > I dont mean to takeover the subject. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anthonyriga" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: Have I been hacked? > > > > I have notice from time to time while running > Firefox > > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > > status bar hangs page does not show. After I > refresh > > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if > this > > is the same issue u are having. > > --- Robert Wolfe wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:51 PM > > > Subject: Have I been hacked? > > > > > > > > > > I have been having a problem with certain > sites > > > "not being found." These > > > > are > > > > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it > takes 2 > > > - 4 times just to get > > > > them to > > > > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am > on > > > PowerLink. I am trying to > > > > figure > > > > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone > have > > > any ideas? > > > > > > And to think when I was at home I did not have > to > > > answer anything like this > > > :) Yes, folks, I DO work for Adelphia and I DO > > > support their High Speed > > > Internet product (formerly PowerLink). I do > have > > > Adelphia HSI myself (I > > > work there so why wouldn't I? ) What distro > of > > > Linux are you running? > > > > > > Robert Wolfe, Adelphia Tier 1 Chat Tech Support > > > Agent (and PROUD > > > User/Supporter of Aurora Linux 1.0 on a Sparc > Ultra > > > 5 ) > > > Buffalo APCC > > > Buffalo, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From robert_todd at adelphia.net Wed Mar 9 09:08:50 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Firefox delays In-Reply-To: <20050309175853.70550.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050309175853.70550.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200503090908.50262.robert_todd@adelphia.net> On Wednesday 09 March 2005 12:58, anthonyriga wrote: > I never had the issue using Mozilla. Firefox on Win > and Linux versions yes. I notoiced this the first time > Firefox came out too.. What causes this delay? I have > tried too the tweaks that can be done in the about > config and still does the same. If I use Mozilla and > Firefox at the same time the Mozilla browser reaches > the web page before Fireox too. I am using Adelph DNS > and have the ip in the /etc/resolv.cofig.. This > happens at work too for me when I use Firefox on Win > and VMware Linux.. Okay, after reading these messages, I, too, have realized that my better half and I both have these very same problems under Windows. However, I use Mozilla on my Aurora Linux box (the Sun Ultra 5 I have here at home) and do not see any problems with page loads whatsoever. From erek at nbtsc.org Wed Mar 9 18:21:53 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: OT: Rack mount cabinet Message-ID: <20050309232153.GB30099@nbtsc.org> Hi All, Does anyone know where I can find an inexpensive rack mount cabinet in the Buffalo area? It doesn't matter to me whether it is open or closed, it just needs to be free standing (not require to be bolted to anything for support) Thanks for the help. Regards, Erek -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It doesn't matter to me whether it is open or closed, it just needs to be free standing (not require to be bolted to anything for support) Thanks for the help. Regards, Erek From erek at nbtsc.org Wed Mar 9 20:19:59 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Rack mount cabinet In-Reply-To: <000801c52507$4f60f440$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> References: <20050309232153.GB30099@nbtsc.org> <000801c52507$4f60f440$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <20050310011957.GD30099@nbtsc.org> Mark, Since this won't be for mission critical or high-density servers, I'm basically looking for whatever someone has surplus. This is to organize the developement and other servers that we have in our office. It won't be filled for some time, so I don't anticipate cooling to be a problem. I'd prefer round holes. As of now, we're planning on having, a switch, a UPS, 2 generic 3U boxes, a 3U Proliant 1600, a Supermicro 1U box, and a Sun Ultra 10, for a total of 18 Units, so anything over 25U would be fine. 42U seems to be the standard size, so we'll most likely go with one like that and have plenty of ventilation space between the servers. Thanks for the help. Regards, Erek On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 07:22:57PM -0500, Mark Musone wrote: > what size? 42U? what cooling, front to back or top to bottom? > What type of servers will be in it? also, do you need round or square hole? > > -Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Erek > Dyskant > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:22 PM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: OT: Rack mount cabinet > > Hi All, > Does anyone know where I can find an inexpensive rack mount > cabinet in the Buffalo area? > It doesn't matter to me whether it is open or closed, it just > needs to be free standing (not require to be bolted to anything for > support) > Thanks for the help. > > Regards, > Erek > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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TIA, Dennis From dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com Thu Mar 10 10:17:33 2005 From: dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com (Dennis Ruzeski) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- Message-ID: I'm curious about something-- How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? --Dennis From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 11:23:28 2005 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050310162329.83453.qmail@web53810.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I have used Linux in a corporate environment. A place that worked at had numberous Linux web/database servers and my desktop was linux. We also had corporate Email on Linux with windows and Linux clients. I'm not currently working in that environment but there are some places out there like this. Most of the people in the group fall into the home experimenter/small environment types. There aren't a lot of people with larger scale experience because there isn't a whole lot of companies around here using Linux in a large scale way. Cheers! Bob --- Dennis Ruzeski wrote: > I'm curious about something-- > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a > corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around > 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, > but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like > high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and > Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? > > --Dennis > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From yearke at eng.buffalo.edu Thu Mar 10 11:37:43 2005 From: yearke at eng.buffalo.edu (Dave Yearke) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- Message-ID: <200503101637.j2AGbhDg027278@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> > I'm curious about something-- > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a > corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? We use it widely here in UB's Science and Engineering Node. We have several large labs of Linux workstations, plus several moderately-sized compute clusters. We don't have very many Linux servers at present; our servers tend to still be mostly Sun Enterprise systems running Solaris, as they have proven to be stable and robust (some are almost seven years old, and still performing their jobs adequately). Another person on the NFLUG list, Jason Lasker, has built a full KickStart infrastructure, so we can install and upgrade systems quickly, efficiently, and consistently, and has customized RHEL3 in many clever ways to meet our particular needs. I've done quite a bit with hands-off and networked-based administration, using home-brewed scripts and utilities, and active maintenance on these systems is pretty low. Truthfully, our client/server environment has illuminated, at least to me, one of the few weaknesses of Linux: Some network services are not as well-developed as they are on other Unix-like operating systems. For example, the Linux automounter does not support direct mounts well or host-based mounts at all, and other network services will spontaneously stop responding. I suspect that this is because the focus of Linux development has been either on (a) standalone desktop systems, or (b) standalone servers doing things like serving web sites. I could be completely wrong, here, but that's my guess. > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around > 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, > but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like > high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and > Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? Jason and I would be happy to demonstrate some of the procedures and practices we use. We won't claim that they are necessarily the "best" ways, but they work well for us. Sometimes, we use surprisingly low-tech approaches to administration, because often times simple is better. By the way, I guess I'm _way_ in the minority on this list, but I don't think Windows "sucks" (please understand, I'm not singling you out, but I see a lot of comments like this on this list). I've been using and administering it for years, and despite its problems, it meets certain needs very well. In fact, we have a strong focus here on making Linux, Solaris, Windows, MacOS, and other operating systems play nice together, because they all meet certain needs and accomplish certain goals. We'd be happy to provide examples on some of this as well, if there's interest. For the last few months, for example, I've been using Cygwin on my Windows XP laptop, which gives a full Unix-like environment under Windows, complete with a full X Window environment (and GNOME on the way). -- Dave Yearke, yearke@eng.buffalo.edu "We are, after all, professionals" -- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 10 11:42:35 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <20050310162329.83453.qmail@web53810.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050310162329.83453.qmail@web53810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423078FB.7030600@thecybersource.com> Robert Meyer wrote: >Well, I have used Linux in a corporate environment. A place that worked at had >numberous Linux web/database servers and my desktop was linux. We also had >corporate Email on Linux with windows and Linux clients. I'm not currently >working in that environment but there are some places out there like this. > >Most of the people in the group fall into the home experimenter/small >environment types. There aren't a lot of people with larger scale experience >because there isn't a whole lot of companies around here using Linux in a large >scale way. > >Cheers! > >Bob >--- Dennis Ruzeski wrote: > > >>I'm curious about something-- >> >>How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a >>corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? >> >>I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around >>'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, >>but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like >>high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and >>Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? >> >>--Dennis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > We have been steadily working on our clients with Linux in the workplace. They all start out with Linux as SMB, Email, Intranet servers, then I gradually work in the workstations and with the help of VMware, I can let the workstations do there windows stuff and at the same time with a click of a mouse, do there email and web stuff in Linux, for more security, etc. It's a formula that's been building and building with great success. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com Thu Mar 10 11:41:23 2005 From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- Message-ID: I essentially use linux in the corporate/enterprise environment, for a large portion of our Network Monitoring System (NMS), as opposed to the home/desktop realm. I do have a Linux server at home, and did have a Linux desktop for a while, but I eventually opted for another *NIX desktop environment - OSX. -Dan >>> dennisr@corp.kanoodle.com 03/10/05 10:17 AM >>> I'm curious about something-- How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? --Dennis From chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com Thu Mar 10 11:46:48 2005 From: chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com (Charles H. Root, III) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Gang, In less than three years, the Unix/Linux installed base at ASG has grown from zero to: 15% of all workstations 25% of all data system servers 60% of dialer system I've always preached a technology agnostic philosophy... Don't drink the kool-aid and don't take the pill. Otherwise you will find yourself blindly worshiping at the temple of IBM, Microsoft, Sun or whomever. Even worse, you may become trapped by a proprietary system that is painful to leave. My approach has always been "the right tool for the right job at the right price." Here's some of what we are doing with Open Source. Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out Linux based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and the Citrix client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use old computers, and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. I've saved the company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on PCS. Almost $100K in one year. Our CFO loves me! All DNS, FTP and web functionality have been migrated to Red hat 8 and Fedora Core 3. We have built an HP WebJetAdmin server running Red Hat 8 that monitors all printers across the enterprise. If a printer gets a paper jam, is low on paper, toner or has any type of error it automatically e-mails my Help Desk team. When you empower yourself to be proactive, you can stay ahead of the support curve and fix problems, often times, before your users know there is an issue. Since we receive e-mail alerts, sometimes our techs show up just as a user says something like "Hey, I was just about to call you!" Our user base thinks we are heroes! We also built a Near Line Storage (NLS) server running Red Hat 9 with Samba on an old server we had laying around. This unit contains seven folders... One for each day of the week. In addition to backing up all end user data to tape every night, another jobs copies that day's data into the appropriate folder on the NLS server. Now I have the last seven days of end user files backed up on a hard drive! If you send your backup tapes offsite to Iron Mountain or somewhere safe like we do, then you know it's a pain (and expensive) to recall a tape from storage when an end user blows up a spreadsheet and needs the file restored. When your Help Desk gets a call like this, you normally would tell them something like "I'll call you in four hours after we get the tape back and restore the file." With my solution, our Help Desk staff can restore the file from the NLS server during the support call! Thirty seconds versus four hours... The problem is solved before the end user hangs up! Again, our users think we are heroes! Phase two of our NLS plan is to make these folders available to end users in a read-only format that mirrors what they are allowed to see on our main file server. In this scenario, end users can restore their own files and never call the Help Desk. Oooh yeah... works for me! We are using a FreeBSD server to run scripts that accomplish scheduled tasks via telnet on an old legacy green screen system. We grabbed the source code for VNC and created our own application that lets us shadow end user sessions for QA and tech support purposes via a web based front end. My point is look at all of your business needs and see what makes the most sense. If you can utilize Open Source like we have at little or no expense, you can pull off some high visibility projects that make you look like a genius. The right tools for the right job at the right price! Good luck, Charles H. Root, III Chief Information Officer Account Solutions Group 205 Bryant Woods South Amherst, NY 14228-3609 v: 716.564.4991 f: 716.564.4331 www.accountsolutionsgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Dennis Ruzeski Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Poll of sorts- I'm curious about something-- How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? --Dennis This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. From chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com Thu Mar 10 11:46:48 2005 From: chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com (Charles H. Root, III) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Gang, In less than three years, the Unix/Linux installed base at ASG has grown from zero to: 15% of all workstations 25% of all data system servers 60% of dialer system I've always preached a technology agnostic philosophy... Don't drink the kool-aid and don't take the pill. Otherwise you will find yourself blindly worshiping at the temple of IBM, Microsoft, Sun or whomever. Even worse, you may become trapped by a proprietary system that is painful to leave. My approach has always been "the right tool for the right job at the right price." Here's some of what we are doing with Open Source. Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out Linux based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and the Citrix client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use old computers, and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. I've saved the company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on PCS. Almost $100K in one year. Our CFO loves me! All DNS, FTP and web functionality have been migrated to Red hat 8 and Fedora Core 3. We have built an HP WebJetAdmin server running Red Hat 8 that monitors all printers across the enterprise. If a printer gets a paper jam, is low on paper, toner or has any type of error it automatically e-mails my Help Desk team. When you empower yourself to be proactive, you can stay ahead of the support curve and fix problems, often times, before your users know there is an issue. Since we receive e-mail alerts, sometimes our techs show up just as a user says something like "Hey, I was just about to call you!" Our user base thinks we are heroes! We also built a Near Line Storage (NLS) server running Red Hat 9 with Samba on an old server we had laying around. This unit contains seven folders... One for each day of the week. In addition to backing up all end user data to tape every night, another jobs copies that day's data into the appropriate folder on the NLS server. Now I have the last seven days of end user files backed up on a hard drive! If you send your backup tapes offsite to Iron Mountain or somewhere safe like we do, then you know it's a pain (and expensive) to recall a tape from storage when an end user blows up a spreadsheet and needs the file restored. When your Help Desk gets a call like this, you normally would tell them something like "I'll call you in four hours after we get the tape back and restore the file." With my solution, our Help Desk staff can restore the file from the NLS server during the support call! Thirty seconds versus four hours... The problem is solved before the end user hangs up! Again, our users think we are heroes! Phase two of our NLS plan is to make these folders available to end users in a read-only format that mirrors what they are allowed to see on our main file server. In this scenario, end users can restore their own files and never call the Help Desk. Oooh yeah... works for me! We are using a FreeBSD server to run scripts that accomplish scheduled tasks via telnet on an old legacy green screen system. We grabbed the source code for VNC and created our own application that lets us shadow end user sessions for QA and tech support purposes via a web based front end. My point is look at all of your business needs and see what makes the most sense. If you can utilize Open Source like we have at little or no expense, you can pull off some high visibility projects that make you look like a genius. The right tools for the right job at the right price! Good luck, Charles H. Root, III Chief Information Officer Account Solutions Group 205 Bryant Woods South Amherst, NY 14228-3609 v: 716.564.4991 f: 716.564.4331 www.accountsolutionsgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Dennis Ruzeski Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Poll of sorts- I'm curious about something-- How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? --Dennis This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 12:23:14 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2af2a0db05031009235253b3b4@mail.gmail.com> i use linux on my desktop and on my personal colo server On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:46:48 -0500, Charles H. Root, III wrote: > Hey Gang, > > In less than three years, the Unix/Linux installed base at ASG has grown > from zero to: > > 15% of all workstations > 25% of all data system servers > 60% of dialer system > > I've always preached a technology agnostic philosophy... Don't drink the > kool-aid and don't take the pill. Otherwise you will find yourself blindly > worshiping at the temple of IBM, Microsoft, Sun or whomever. Even worse, you > may become trapped by a proprietary system that is painful to leave. My > approach has always been "the right tool for the right job at the right > price." > > Here's some of what we are doing with Open Source. > > Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out Linux > based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and the Citrix > client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use old computers, > and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. I've saved the > company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on PCS. Almost $100K in > one year. Our CFO loves me! > > All DNS, FTP and web functionality have been migrated to Red hat 8 and > Fedora Core 3. > > We have built an HP WebJetAdmin server running Red Hat 8 that monitors all > printers across the enterprise. If a printer gets a paper jam, is low on > paper, toner or has any type of error it automatically e-mails my Help Desk > team. When you empower yourself to be proactive, you can stay ahead of the > support curve and fix problems, often times, before your users know there is > an issue. Since we receive e-mail alerts, sometimes our techs show up just > as a user says something like "Hey, I was just about to call you!" Our user > base thinks we are heroes! > > We also built a Near Line Storage (NLS) server running Red Hat 9 with Samba > on an old server we had laying around. This unit contains seven folders... > One for each day of the week. In addition to backing up all end user data to > tape every night, another jobs copies that day's data into the appropriate > folder on the NLS server. Now I have the last seven days of end user files > backed up on a hard drive! > > If you send your backup tapes offsite to Iron Mountain or somewhere safe > like we do, then you know it's a pain (and expensive) to recall a tape from > storage when an end user blows up a spreadsheet and needs the file restored. > When your Help Desk gets a call like this, you normally would tell them > something like "I'll call you in four hours after we get the tape back and > restore the file." > > With my solution, our Help Desk staff can restore the file from the NLS > server during the support call! Thirty seconds versus four hours... The > problem is solved before the end user hangs up! Again, our users think we > are heroes! > > Phase two of our NLS plan is to make these folders available to end users in > a read-only format that mirrors what they are allowed to see on our main > file server. In this scenario, end users can restore their own files and > never call the Help Desk. Oooh yeah... works for me! > > We are using a FreeBSD server to run scripts that accomplish scheduled tasks > via telnet on an old legacy green screen system. > > We grabbed the source code for VNC and created our own application that lets > us shadow end user sessions for QA and tech support purposes via a web based > front end. > > My point is look at all of your business needs and see what makes the most > sense. If you can utilize Open Source like we have at little or no expense, > you can pull off some high visibility projects that make you look like a > genius. > > The right tools for the right job at the right price! > > Good luck, > > Charles H. Root, III > Chief Information Officer > > Account Solutions Group > 205 Bryant Woods South > Amherst, NY 14228-3609 > > v: 716.564.4991 > f: 716.564.4331 > > www.accountsolutionsgroup.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > Dennis Ruzeski > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: Poll of sorts- > > I'm curious about something-- > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a > corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around > 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows > sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like > high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and > Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like > this? > > --Dennis > > This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 12:25:09 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Have I been hacked? In-Reply-To: <000601c524ca$afff8740$0300a8c0@jim> References: <20050309162855.36855.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> <000601c524ca$afff8740$0300a8c0@jim> Message-ID: <2af2a0db0503100925569bf2e7@mail.gmail.com> i have the same problem off and on in slackware and fc3 but if i use an ip it works like normal; On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:09:00 -0500, Jim wrote: > "I have notice from time to time while running Firefox > > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > > status bar hangs page does not show. After I refresh > > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if this > > is the same issue u are having." > > I am having that same problem! It's annoying the crap out of me. Sorry > I dont mean to takeover the subject. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anthonyriga" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: Have I been hacked? > > > I have notice from time to time while running Firefox > > on Windows or Linux there is a light delay and the > > status bar hangs page does not show. After I refresh > > page it comes up sometimes very slow. Not sure if this > > is the same issue u are having. > > --- Robert Wolfe wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:51 PM > > > Subject: Have I been hacked? > > > > > > > > > > I have been having a problem with certain sites > > > "not being found." These > > > > are > > > > sites that used to come up quickly. Now it takes 2 > > > - 4 times just to get > > > > them to > > > > load. They load fine on my winbloze box. I am on > > > PowerLink. I am trying to > > > > figure > > > > out what is causing this delay. Does anyone have > > > any ideas? > > > > > > And to think when I was at home I did not have to > > > answer anything like this > > > :) Yes, folks, I DO work for Adelphia and I DO > > > support their High Speed > > > Internet product (formerly PowerLink). I do have > > > Adelphia HSI myself (I > > > work there so why wouldn't I? ) What distro of > > > Linux are you running? > > > > > > Robert Wolfe, Adelphia Tier 1 Chat Tech Support > > > Agent (and PROUD > > > User/Supporter of Aurora Linux 1.0 on a Sparc Ultra > > > 5 ) > > > Buffalo APCC > > > Buffalo, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 10 12:29:51 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4230840F.3090508@thecybersource.com> Charles H. Root, III wrote: >Hey Gang, > >In less than three years, the Unix/Linux installed base at ASG has grown >from zero to: > >15% of all workstations >25% of all data system servers >60% of dialer system > >I've always preached a technology agnostic philosophy... Don't drink the >kool-aid and don't take the pill. Otherwise you will find yourself blindly >worshiping at the temple of IBM, Microsoft, Sun or whomever. Even worse, you >may become trapped by a proprietary system that is painful to leave. My >approach has always been "the right tool for the right job at the right >price." > >Here's some of what we are doing with Open Source. > >Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out Linux >based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and the Citrix >client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use old computers, >and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. I've saved the >company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on PCS. Almost $100K in >one year. Our CFO loves me! > >All DNS, FTP and web functionality have been migrated to Red hat 8 and >Fedora Core 3. > >We have built an HP WebJetAdmin server running Red Hat 8 that monitors all >printers across the enterprise. If a printer gets a paper jam, is low on >paper, toner or has any type of error it automatically e-mails my Help Desk >team. When you empower yourself to be proactive, you can stay ahead of the >support curve and fix problems, often times, before your users know there is >an issue. Since we receive e-mail alerts, sometimes our techs show up just >as a user says something like "Hey, I was just about to call you!" Our user >base thinks we are heroes! > >We also built a Near Line Storage (NLS) server running Red Hat 9 with Samba >on an old server we had laying around. This unit contains seven folders... >One for each day of the week. In addition to backing up all end user data to >tape every night, another jobs copies that day's data into the appropriate >folder on the NLS server. Now I have the last seven days of end user files >backed up on a hard drive! > >If you send your backup tapes offsite to Iron Mountain or somewhere safe >like we do, then you know it's a pain (and expensive) to recall a tape from >storage when an end user blows up a spreadsheet and needs the file restored. >When your Help Desk gets a call like this, you normally would tell them >something like "I'll call you in four hours after we get the tape back and >restore the file." > >With my solution, our Help Desk staff can restore the file from the NLS >server during the support call! Thirty seconds versus four hours... The >problem is solved before the end user hangs up! Again, our users think we >are heroes! > >Phase two of our NLS plan is to make these folders available to end users in >a read-only format that mirrors what they are allowed to see on our main >file server. In this scenario, end users can restore their own files and >never call the Help Desk. Oooh yeah... works for me! > >We are using a FreeBSD server to run scripts that accomplish scheduled tasks >via telnet on an old legacy green screen system. > >We grabbed the source code for VNC and created our own application that lets >us shadow end user sessions for QA and tech support purposes via a web based >front end. > >My point is look at all of your business needs and see what makes the most >sense. If you can utilize Open Source like we have at little or no expense, >you can pull off some high visibility projects that make you look like a >genius. > >The right tools for the right job at the right price! > >Good luck, > >Charles H. Root, III >Chief Information Officer > >Account Solutions Group >205 Bryant Woods South >Amherst, NY 14228-3609 > >v: 716.564.4991 >f: 716.564.4331 > >www.accountsolutionsgroup.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of >Dennis Ruzeski >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: Poll of sorts- > > >I'm curious about something-- > >How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a >corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > >I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around >'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows >sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like >high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and >Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like >this? > >--Dennis > > > > > >This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. > > Sounds like really great stuff. Love to hear stuff like this, Congrats! -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From mckimt at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 12:33:17 2005 From: mckimt at yahoo.com (Tom McKim) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050310173318.937.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Charles H. Root, III" wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are > now rolling out Linux > based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X > Windows and the Citrix > client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy > or use old computers, > and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License > fee. I've saved the > company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on > PCS. Almost $100K in > one year. Our CFO loves me! Do you have any information on the Licensing? I have been trying to get answers on this. I asked the two vendors that we're selling it to me and I spoke to a licenseing rep at Microsoft. It's been over a year so but I recall them saying that if you are going to be using Terminal Services with or with out CITRIX, you need a terminal service license per client. That is a no-brainer so I purchased 40 Termainal Service Licenses to go along with the 40 Citrix Liceneses. I was also told if you are going to be connecting from a Non-Windows 2000 (NT4, Win 98, Linux) then you need to pay for a Windows 2000 License per box. On top of that you would need a license for each client for office. Tom McKim, MCSE Network Administrator Niagara Chocolates 3500 Genesee Street Buffalo, New York 14225 tmckim@niagarachocolates.com mckimt@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Thu Mar 10 12:45:39 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <423087C3.1000308@Dynabrade.com> Almost all of our servers are Linux, we have a few (2) windows servers for certain apps EDI, ect. but all Email, File, Web, database, ldap, domain controller, ect servers are linux. We still use windows desktops primarily NT/2000 a little XP. Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/10/2005 10:17 AM, Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >I'm curious about something-- > >How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > >I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? > >--Dennis > > > > > > From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Thu Mar 10 12:56:41 2005 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42308A59.9060806@cognigencorp.com> we use linux for about 90% of our infratructure at cognigen with the exception of a few services like nfs/smb, NIS+, oracle, X Logins, some statistical apps, and 25 node compute cluster. these are currently on solaris but i'll be moving oracle, and the cluster to linux by summer, NIS+ to eDirectory on linux by the end of the year hopefully. Dennis Ruzeski wrote: > I'm curious about something-- > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use > it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for > desktop/home use? > > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more > around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since > Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving > around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for > performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else > that would like to do things like this? > > --Dennis > > > > -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From johnseth at phoenixwing.com Thu Mar 10 13:31:43 2005 From: johnseth at phoenixwing.com (John Seth) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4230928F.2090805@phoenixwing.com> I work for a local ISP, and well, our whole shop is 95% Linux. The other 5% is: Tech Support desktops (Windows XP), one Mac OS9/OSX system, three windows web servers/clusters, and a rack of SunOS systems for our VoIP stuff. Most of our systems are RedHat 7+, and I've been moving some systems over to Slackware as we upgrade old systems. I also have two boxes at home, my server runs Slackware 10.1 with a slew of services on it (Web, DNS, Email, FTP, Samba, etc) and my desktop is dual boot Fedora Core 3/Windows XP Pro. - Tony Evans Dennis Ruzeski wrote: > I'm curious about something-- > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? > > --Dennis > > > > > > From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 13:48:37 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050310184837.22368.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> When was working for Advance 2000 we were pushing linux on the backend for our clients. Testing stuff on the Desktop too. Most of us ran it on our laptops. We also ran all of our DNS at Advance too on Linux. Our Alkatel phone systems routers were also Linux based.. My girlfriend works for Center for Plastic surgery and the are runing Medent on Win XP boxes and Redhat Adv server on the backend. They moved most of their data which needs to be hippa comliant off SCO to Linux.. --- Darin Perusich wrote: > we use linux for about 90% of our infratructure at > cognigen with the > exception of a few services like nfs/smb, NIS+, > oracle, X Logins, some > statistical apps, and 25 node compute cluster. these > are currently on > solaris but i'll be moving oracle, and the cluster > to linux by summer, > NIS+ to eDirectory on linux by the end of the year > hopefully. > > Dennis Ruzeski wrote: > > I'm curious about something-- > > > > How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on > the list that use > > it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it > more for > > desktop/home use? > > > > I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they > seem to center more > > around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', > which is great since > > Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting > topics revolving > > around things like high-volume system > administration, tuning for > > performance and uptime, and Linux in the > enterprise. Anybody else > > that would like to do things like this? > > > > --Dennis > > > > > > > > > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Systems Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ebenoit at hopevale.com Thu Mar 10 15:03:08 2005 From: ebenoit at hopevale.com (Eric) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <20050310184837.22368.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050310184837.22368.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4230A7FC.1050704@hopevale.com> I work at a small high school where they could not afford many MS products or user licenses for e-mail and other server/client users, so I have constructed some linux servers for them. ...I should actually be more precise in saying I use a great deal of GNU apps on top of linux. I believe I may, in the future, have to put linux as a desktop here ...just wish "wine" was more advanced. anthonyriga wrote: >When was working for Advance 2000 we were pushing >linux on the backend for our clients. Testing stuff on >the Desktop too. Most of us ran it on our laptops. We >also ran all of our DNS at Advance too on Linux. Our >Alkatel phone systems routers were also Linux based.. >My girlfriend works for Center for Plastic surgery and >the are runing Medent on Win XP boxes and Redhat Adv >server on the backend. They moved most of their data >which needs to be hippa comliant off SCO to Linux.. >--- Darin Perusich >wrote: > > >>we use linux for about 90% of our infratructure at >>cognigen with the >>exception of a few services like nfs/smb, NIS+, >>oracle, X Logins, some >>statistical apps, and 25 node compute cluster. these >>are currently on >>solaris but i'll be moving oracle, and the cluster >>to linux by summer, >>NIS+ to eDirectory on linux by the end of the year >>hopefully. >> >>Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >> >> >>>I'm curious about something-- >>> >>>How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on >>> >>> >>the list that use >> >> >>>it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it >>> >>> >>more for >> >> >>>desktop/home use? >>> >>>I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they >>> >>> >>seem to center more >> >> >>>around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', >>> >>> >>which is great since >> >> >>>Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting >>> >>> >>topics revolving >> >> >>>around things like high-volume system >>> >>> >>administration, tuning for >> >> >>>performance and uptime, and Linux in the >>> >>> >>enterprise. Anybody else >> >> >>>that would like to do things like this? >>> >>>--Dennis >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Darin Perusich >>Unix Systems Administrator >>Cognigen Corp. >>darinper@cognigencorp.com >> >> >> > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 10 15:32:50 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <4230A7FC.1050704@hopevale.com> References: <20050310184837.22368.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> <4230A7FC.1050704@hopevale.com> Message-ID: <4230AEF2.1040301@thecybersource.com> Eric wrote: > I work at a small high school where they could not afford many MS > products or user licenses for e-mail and other server/client users, so > I have constructed some linux servers for them. ...I should actually > be more precise in saying I use a great deal of GNU apps on top of linux. > > I believe I may, in the future, have to put linux as a desktop here > ...just wish "wine" was more advanced. > > > anthonyriga wrote: > >> When was working for Advance 2000 we were pushing >> linux on the backend for our clients. Testing stuff on >> the Desktop too. Most of us ran it on our laptops. We >> also ran all of our DNS at Advance too on Linux. Our >> Alkatel phone systems routers were also Linux based.. >> My girlfriend works for Center for Plastic surgery and >> the are runing Medent on Win XP boxes and Redhat Adv >> server on the backend. They moved most of their data >> which needs to be hippa comliant off SCO to Linux.. --- Darin >> Perusich >> wrote: >> >> >>> we use linux for about 90% of our infratructure at >>> cognigen with the exception of a few services like nfs/smb, NIS+, >>> oracle, X Logins, some statistical apps, and 25 node compute >>> cluster. these >>> are currently on solaris but i'll be moving oracle, and the cluster >>> to linux by summer, NIS+ to eDirectory on linux by the end of the year >>> hopefully. >>> >>> Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm curious about something-- >>>> >>>> How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on >>>> >>> >>> the list that use >>> >>> >>>> it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it >>>> >>> >>> more for >>> >>> >>>> desktop/home use? >>>> >>>> I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they >>>> >>> >>> seem to center more >>> >>> >>>> around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', >>>> >>> >>> which is great since >>> >>> >>>> Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting >>>> >>> >>> topics revolving >>> >>> >>>> around things like high-volume system >>>> >>> >>> administration, tuning for >>> >>> >>>> performance and uptime, and Linux in the >>>> >>> >>> enterprise. Anybody else >>> >>> >>>> that would like to do things like this? >>>> >>>> --Dennis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Darin Perusich >>> Unix Systems Administrator >>> Cognigen Corp. >>> darinper@cognigencorp.com >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> If you need "wine" stuff, try VMware, it's worth every penny if your stuck in M$ stuff. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From dmangani at adelphia.net Thu Mar 10 15:38:17 2005 From: dmangani at adelphia.net (Dave Mangani) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4230B039.5070100@adelphia.net> Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >I'm curious about something-- > >How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > >I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? > >--Dennis > > > > > > > Hi all, I suppose I am somewhat of a different user here on the group. I work as an electrical substation electrician for one of the 2 main electrical utilities in the area. At work I have no connection what so ever with "IT" or "IT systems". I have however taken many computer courses over the years because it is an interest/hobby of mine. I started out in high school using an old acoustic modem to connect to the school districts mainframe and play a hunt the wumpus type adventure game! By the way... no monitor, only a loud old dot matrix printer as output. From there on to TI-99/4A, atari,commadore, Tandy etc...I began using linux about 18 months ago after following it via reviews/previews in magazines. I use linux at home in a stricktly desktop/workstation environment. I enjoy the challenge of getting things to "work". I find it mentally invigorating and rewarding. I love using linux and learning interesting new uses and techniques for reaching my "goals". I'm sure that my "goals" are fairly limited and basic but I feel very good when I can get my DVD's to play, or figure out how to convert audio file formats or even set up a shared partition with my windows machine. Getting my palm pilot to sync was a big deal for me. God knows why as I don't really use my palm pilot. I suppose, just to see if I could get it to "work" ( I still use windows for games :-) ). Alot of the areas discussed on this group are far above my level of understanding. Alot of the items discussed I may never use or need to know, but it is still knowledge and there have been many times that this goup has had some super tips for a user like me. Thanks for this wonderful outlet and resource. I know I for one appreciate all the knowledge you guys freely share. Dave From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 10 15:57:05 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <200503101637.j2AGbhDg027278@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> References: <200503101637.j2AGbhDg027278@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <4230B4A1.4060905@thecybersource.com> Dave Yearke wrote: >>I'm curious about something-- >> >>How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a >>corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? >> >> > >We use it widely here in UB's Science and Engineering Node. We have several >large labs of Linux workstations, plus several moderately-sized compute >clusters. We don't have very many Linux servers at present; our servers tend to >still be mostly Sun Enterprise systems running Solaris, as they have proven to >be stable and robust (some are almost seven years old, and still performing >their jobs adequately). Another person on the NFLUG list, Jason Lasker, has >built a full KickStart infrastructure, so we can install and upgrade systems >quickly, efficiently, and consistently, and has customized RHEL3 in many clever >ways to meet our particular needs. I've done quite a bit with hands-off and >networked-based administration, using home-brewed scripts and utilities, and >active maintenance on these systems is pretty low. > >Truthfully, our client/server environment has illuminated, at least to me, one >of the few weaknesses of Linux: Some network services are not as well-developed >as they are on other Unix-like operating systems. For example, the Linux >automounter does not support direct mounts well or host-based mounts at all, and >other network services will spontaneously stop responding. I suspect that this >is because the focus of Linux development has been either on (a) standalone >desktop systems, or (b) standalone servers doing things like serving web sites. >I could be completely wrong, here, but that's my guess. > > > >>I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around >>'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, >>but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like >>high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and >>Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? >> >> > >Jason and I would be happy to demonstrate some of the procedures and practices >we use. We won't claim that they are necessarily the "best" ways, but they work >well for us. Sometimes, we use surprisingly low-tech approaches to >administration, because often times simple is better. > >By the way, I guess I'm _way_ in the minority on this list, but I don't think >Windows "sucks" (please understand, I'm not singling you out, but I see a lot of >comments like this on this list). I've been using and administering it for >years, and despite its problems, it meets certain needs very well. In fact, we >have a strong focus here on making Linux, Solaris, Windows, MacOS, and other >operating systems play nice together, because they all meet certain needs and >accomplish certain goals. We'd be happy to provide examples on some of this as >well, if there's interest. For the last few months, for example, I've been using >Cygwin on my Windows XP laptop, which gives a full Unix-like environment under >Windows, complete with a full X Window environment (and GNOME on the way). > > > I gotta chime in on the "windows sucks" thing, and this is just a general observation, not directed at you specifically. I think I can safely speak for a few people that the term "windows sucks" can and does mean way more that the operating system itself. I myself try not to use such generalizations but I have, in my frustration of "trying to make different os's play nice", been know to blurt out such things, as well as a few expletives, lol. And it's ALWAYS the attitude and resulting products of M$ that manage to purposely not play nice. As a publicly traded company, M$ has an obligation to earn a profit but the methods are certainly questionable, I don't need to go on about this, you all know this. I just wanted to point out the practices of another publicly traded company, RedHat. How ingenious was there Fedora project and concept?! They too have an obligation to earn a profit for there share holders and with a public beta like Fedora, they can use the public at large to put new ideas and code to test, pulling out proven methods for there sold software. If you want something polished, you pay for it and they back it up with support. Fedora is now always between the top 2 Linux distros and is a great distro to stay on top of the newest stuff. Someday someone will come up with a way to use copyrights in the 21st century on music, etc., they old ways no longer apply, i.e. the days of col parkers are over. I see RedHat as taking a huge stride forward in the way software is dealt with in the 21st century, I think it will be a model to follow, we'll see. Just my 2cents.. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From lasker at eng.buffalo.edu Thu Mar 10 16:09:23 2005 From: lasker at eng.buffalo.edu (Jason Lasker) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <4230AEF2.1040301@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <200503102109.j2AL9WDg012152@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> In our experience VWware is a good solution for individual user workstations with at least 1GB of RAM that need to run high performance applications. When you start to deploy it on a larger scale (ex in labs) it becomes problematic: 1. The don't use floating licenses. This is a problem because each user must have the license code in their home directory. 2. Difficult to lock down, users can modify the VM and the environment. 3. If you use snap shots to protect the disk image performance goes down. 4. The license file is stored in plain text. 5. Unless you buy at least 50 licenses you get individual codes for each workstation. How we got around it. We run VMware in 5 labs (about 150 machines). 1. Custom scripts to install the .vmware directory and virtual machine configs to each user when they fire up the app. 2. Lock down the XP environment with VMWare to reduce the ability to change it. 3. Put the VM disk file on a partition with limited space and limit the size of /tmp to reduce people ability to create own VMs Funny thing about this is the Windows Host version of the software is much more advanced as far as locking people out of the configuration options. We have talked to VMware about these issues but they did not seem care about it. They are much more fused on their higher end server virtualization products. If you are just running basic applications like office and not higher end science and engineering stuff like AutoCAD, then a better solution as far as manageability is Terminal/Citrix server. Vmware Academic costs about $125/per seat with $25/year maintenance, you also need a license for the version of the OS (and the software on it) you are running in your virtual machine. So you don't get something for nothing here.... I am not bashing Vmware... I think it is a good product when used in the right situation... it just doesn't scale well... That's where Terminal Server/Citrix works well. In an environment where budgets are tight you are better off looking for cheaper GNU alternatives like OpenOffice etc.... Your mileage may vary..... Jason Lasker Senior Programmer Analyst/Systems Administrator University at Buffalo Science and Engineering Node Services 113 Bell Hall Buffalo, NY 14260-2050 Voice 716-645-3797 x2172 Fax 716-645-3704 email mailto:lasker@eng.buffalo.edu -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Cyber Source Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:33 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Poll of sorts- Eric wrote: > I work at a small high school where they could not afford many MS > products or user licenses for e-mail and other server/client users, so > I have constructed some linux servers for them. ...I should actually > be more precise in saying I use a great deal of GNU apps on top of linux. > > I believe I may, in the future, have to put linux as a desktop here > ...just wish "wine" was more advanced. > > > anthonyriga wrote: > >> When was working for Advance 2000 we were pushing linux on the >> backend for our clients. Testing stuff on the Desktop too. Most of us >> ran it on our laptops. We also ran all of our DNS at Advance too on >> Linux. Our Alkatel phone systems routers were also Linux based.. >> My girlfriend works for Center for Plastic surgery and the are runing >> Medent on Win XP boxes and Redhat Adv server on the backend. They >> moved most of their data >> which needs to be hippa comliant off SCO to Linux.. --- Darin >> Perusich >> wrote: >> >> >>> we use linux for about 90% of our infratructure at cognigen with the >>> exception of a few services like nfs/smb, NIS+, oracle, X Logins, >>> some statistical apps, and 25 node compute cluster. these are >>> currently on solaris but i'll be moving oracle, and the cluster to >>> linux by summer, NIS+ to eDirectory on linux by the end of the year >>> hopefully. >>> >>> Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm curious about something-- >>>> >>>> How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on >>>> >>> >>> the list that use >>> >>> >>>> it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it >>>> >>> >>> more for >>> >>> >>>> desktop/home use? >>>> >>>> I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they >>>> >>> >>> seem to center more >>> >>> >>>> around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', >>>> >>> >>> which is great since >>> >>> >>>> Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting >>>> >>> >>> topics revolving >>> >>> >>>> around things like high-volume system >>>> >>> >>> administration, tuning for >>> >>> >>>> performance and uptime, and Linux in the >>>> >>> >>> enterprise. Anybody else >>> >>> >>>> that would like to do things like this? >>>> >>>> --Dennis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Darin Perusich >>> Unix Systems Administrator >>> Cognigen Corp. >>> darinper@cognigencorp.com >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> If you need "wine" stuff, try VMware, it's worth every penny if your stuck in M$ stuff. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From mmusone at shatterit.com Thu Mar 10 16:40:04 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:20 2007 Subject: Announcement (Was: Poll of sorts) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c525b9$b8992970$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Dennis, Since you broached the subject, it's a little earlier than I was planning but I figure no time like now.. I have myself also seen a need for what you are asking for, hence: I am announcing a new linux users group. The group is the Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group. http://www.bplug.org The user group is focused on the use of Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a corporate solution set. We disseminate practical information and proven solutions from IT professionals who have successfully tackled a wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. It's a rare opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers from companies that are both local and national. Unlike other Linux User Groups, our meetings are structured and have presentations and speakers focused on using Linux solutions on an enterprise level. Our meetings are held from 6pm-9pm on the last Thursday of each month. The location may vary, as "road trips" and visits to companies using Linux in the enterprise is encouraged. Newcomers to Linux are always welcome, however the meetings will be based on Professional I.T. members looking for ways to enhance their Linux solutions or looking to move to Linux solutions. If anyone is interested in attending the next meeting or contributing, please let me know. Thanks, Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Ruzeski Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Poll of sorts- I'm curious about something-- How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like this? --Dennis From kennethlawson2000 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 19:19:26 2005 From: kennethlawson2000 at yahoo.com (Kenneth Lawson) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Mozillia In-Reply-To: <200503102109.j2AL9WDg012152@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All; I have a mozillia problem. I need to block a certian site to keep my daughter from it so ahe actually doses the homework she susposed to be doing. I can't find a way to block a cetian ip address or site name. Is there a plug-in or add-on to allow me to block sites. Thanks Ken Ken & Nancy Lawson You may now see Our Pictures at http://www.civilwarimpressions.com and From josephj at main.nc.us Thu Mar 10 20:01:47 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <4230B4A1.4060905@thecybersource.com> References: <200503101637.j2AGbhDg027278@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> <4230B4A1.4060905@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <4230EDFB.1080003@main.nc.us> I've been interested in Unix ever since I started learning C from Thompson & Ritchie's books (long ago). For a long time, I was the chief, cook, and bottle washer on a Unix System III at a bank. Now, I'm trying tenaciously to be an end user ;) I have Mandrake 9.1 (still rc2 because I think I'll screw things up if I upgrade myself.) and because, aside from a few font manager crashes, it works. I do web surfing, email, a bit of shell programming and some writing. I dual boot Win 98, but only for small specialty software packages that I don't use frequently. If I ever get around to getting a replacement for this old clunker, I'll use VMware because I need Dragon voice software and I'm totally hooked on Maximizer contact manager. I have no idea what distro I'll use. It just has to work with pilot-link. Joe Cyber Source wrote: > Dave Yearke wrote: > >>> I'm curious about something-- >>> >>> How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use >>> it in a >>> corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? >>> >> >> >> We use it widely here in UB's Science and Engineering Node. We have >> several large labs of Linux workstations, plus several >> moderately-sized compute clusters. We don't have very many Linux >> servers at present; our servers tend to still be mostly Sun >> Enterprise systems running Solaris, as they have proven to be stable >> and robust (some are almost seven years old, and still performing >> their jobs adequately). Another person on the NFLUG list, Jason >> Lasker, has built a full KickStart infrastructure, so we can install >> and upgrade systems quickly, efficiently, and consistently, and has >> customized RHEL3 in many clever ways to meet our particular needs. >> I've done quite a bit with hands-off and networked-based >> administration, using home-brewed scripts and utilities, and active >> maintenance on these systems is pretty low. >> >> Truthfully, our client/server environment has illuminated, at least >> to me, one of the few weaknesses of Linux: Some network services are >> not as well-developed as they are on other Unix-like operating >> systems. For example, the Linux automounter does not support direct >> mounts well or host-based mounts at all, and other network services >> will spontaneously stop responding. I suspect that this is because >> the focus of Linux development has been either on (a) standalone >> desktop systems, or (b) standalone servers doing things like serving >> web sites. I could be completely wrong, here, but that's my guess. >> >> >> >>> I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more >>> around >>> 'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since >>> Windows sucks, >>> but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like >>> high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and >>> uptime, and >>> Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things >>> like this? >>> >> >> >> Jason and I would be happy to demonstrate some of the procedures and >> practices we use. We won't claim that they are necessarily the "best" >> ways, but they work well for us. Sometimes, we use surprisingly >> low-tech approaches to administration, because often times simple is >> better. >> >> By the way, I guess I'm _way_ in the minority on this list, but I >> don't think Windows "sucks" (please understand, I'm not singling you >> out, but I see a lot of comments like this on this list). I've been >> using and administering it for years, and despite its problems, it >> meets certain needs very well. In fact, we have a strong focus here >> on making Linux, Solaris, Windows, MacOS, and other operating systems >> play nice together, because they all meet certain needs and >> accomplish certain goals. We'd be happy to provide examples on some >> of this as well, if there's interest. For the last few months, for >> example, I've been using Cygwin on my Windows XP laptop, which gives >> a full Unix-like environment under Windows, complete with a full X >> Window environment (and GNOME on the way). >> >> >> > I gotta chime in on the "windows sucks" thing, and this is just a > general observation, not directed at you specifically. > I think I can safely speak for a few people that the term "windows > sucks" can and does mean way more that the operating system itself. > I myself try not to use such generalizations but I have, in my > frustration of "trying to make different os's play nice", been know to > blurt out such things, as well as a few expletives, lol. And it's > ALWAYS the attitude and resulting products of M$ that manage to > purposely not play nice. > As a publicly traded company, M$ has an obligation to earn a profit > but the methods are certainly questionable, I don't need to go on > about this, you all know this. > I just wanted to point out the practices of another publicly traded > company, RedHat. How ingenious was there Fedora project and concept?! > They too have an obligation to earn a profit for there share holders > and with a public beta like Fedora, they can use the public at large > to put new ideas and code to test, pulling out proven methods for > there sold software. If you want something polished, you pay for it > and they back it up with support. > Fedora is now always between the top 2 Linux distros and is a great > distro to stay on top of the newest stuff. > Someday someone will come up with a way to use copyrights in the 21st > century on music, etc., they old ways no longer apply, i.e. the days > of col parkers are over. > I see RedHat as taking a huge stride forward in the way software is > dealt with in the 21st century, I think it will be a model to follow, > we'll see. > Just my 2cents.. > -- "Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool" --Plato From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 10 21:40:44 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Mozillia In-Reply-To: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4231052C.506@thecybersource.com> Kenneth Lawson wrote: >Hi All; > > I have a mozillia problem. I need to block a certian site to >keep my daughter from it so ahe actually doses the homework she >susposed to be doing. > I can't find a way to block a cetian ip address or site name. Is >there a plug-in or add-on to allow me to block sites. > > > > Thanks Ken > >Ken & Nancy Lawson >You may now see Our Pictures at http://www.civilwarimpressions.com and > > You could put a bogus address in /etc/hosts or hosts(whatever it is on windows) so that the site in question would like go to 127.0.0.1 or something..... -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From keg at adelphia.net Thu Mar 10 22:58:36 2005 From: keg at adelphia.net (Kevin E. Glosser) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review Message-ID: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> Today, we posted our Cedega 4.2.1 review. You can check it out here... http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/staticpages/index.php?page=20050306045044463 Cedega is a commercial version of W.I.N.E. that allows you play Windows games in Linux. I tested it with World of Warcraft, Half-Life 2 and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Hope you enjoy it. KEG From hubbardr at adelphia.net Fri Mar 11 05:21:08 2005 From: hubbardr at adelphia.net (Richard Hubbard) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: All User Read/Write to usbdisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42317114.9090505@adelphia.net> Frank Kumro wrote: >I was wondering how I can have any user be able to read and write to >the usb thumb drive I have. Now i am the only one using it so I mount >it with > >sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ > >I can read it but I cannot remove data from it. I cant write to it >either, how can I enable any user to delete,modify,write to the disk? > > > something else to keep in mind, some usb sticks have a 'write protect' switch. if you have one, make sure it is switched to the other position. (spoken as someone who is old enough to have too much experience with floppy disks!) From javabob at adelphia.net Fri Mar 11 06:13:24 2005 From: javabob at adelphia.net (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: OpenLDAP references In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42317D54.2050008@adelphia.net> Are your /home/ directories local or NFS mounted? What distro are you using? Are you using ACL's? I have a book you can borrow "Understanding and Deploying LDAP Directory Services". Its about 800 pages. You can also google for info. I found : http://www.ameritech.net/users/mhwood/ldap-sec-setup.html http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin22/slapdconfig.html#Access%20Control among others. Hope this helps. Bob Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >Greetings, all- > >Here's my situation. We've gotten to the point here where there's a need for central authentication for our developers. Rather than set up NIS+ or try to use our M$ Active Directory, we're setting up an LDAP server. >No problem. The server and database is set up properly and I can use authconfig to make the linux systems point to it. The problem is in the details- User home directories, for example. I know I don't need a copy on every box- How do I get it to be available on the logged-in system? What I'm looking for is a decent reference on how to set up the stuff that authconfig doesn't (pam, home directories, email, etc....) > >TIA, >Dennis > > > > > > From peter at thecybersource.com Fri Mar 11 08:24:18 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Announcement (Was: Poll of sorts) In-Reply-To: <000001c525b9$b8992970$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> References: <000001c525b9$b8992970$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <42319C02.7070707@thecybersource.com> Mark Musone wrote: >Dennis, > >Since you broached the subject, it's a little earlier than I was planning >but I figure no time like now.. > >I have myself also seen a need for what you are asking for, hence: > >I am announcing a new linux users group. The group is the Buffalo >Professional Linux Users Group. > >http://www.bplug.org > >The user group is focused on the use of Linux and Open Source in >professional business environments. We have organized presentations and >seminars, and bring up topics that are of interest to people that use or >would like to use Linux as part of a corporate solution set. We disseminate >practical information and proven solutions from IT professionals who have >successfully tackled a wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. >It's a rare opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers >from companies that are both local and national. > >Unlike other Linux User Groups, our meetings are structured and have >presentations and speakers focused on using Linux solutions on an enterprise >level. Our meetings are held from 6pm-9pm on the last Thursday of each >month. The location may vary, as "road trips" and visits to companies using >Linux in the enterprise is encouraged. > >Newcomers to Linux are always welcome, however the meetings will be based on >Professional I.T. members looking for ways to enhance their Linux solutions >or looking to move to Linux solutions. > >If anyone is interested in attending the next meeting or contributing, >please let me know. > >Thanks, > >Mark > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of >Dennis Ruzeski >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:18 AM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: Poll of sorts- > >I'm curious about something-- > >How do you all use Linux? Are there many people on the list that use it in a >corporate/enterprise environment or is it more for desktop/home use? > >I've only been to a couple of meetings, but they seem to center more around >'Linux as a Windows desktop replacement', which is great since Windows >sucks, but I'd like to see more meeting topics revolving around things like >high-volume system administration, tuning for performance and uptime, and >Linux in the enterprise. Anybody else that would like to do things like >this? > >--Dennis > > > > > > > I might be interest in that Mark. Do you have an email list? -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From mmusone at shatterit.com Fri Mar 11 09:07:01 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Announcement (Was: Poll of sorts) In-Reply-To: <42319C02.7070707@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <001301c52643$98a2d640$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Yes, the email list is bplug@bplug.org. You can subscribe by sending an email to bplug-subscribe@bplug.org. -Mark >I might be interest in that Mark. Do you have an email list? >-- >cybersource.us >115 Richfield Road >Williamsville, New York 14221 >716-553-8525 From john at kegworks.com Fri Mar 11 09:14:23 2005 From: john at kegworks.com (John Nichel) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Mozillia In-Reply-To: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4231A7BF.1050304@kegworks.com> Kenneth Lawson wrote: > Hi All; > > I have a mozillia problem. I need to block a certian site to > keep my daughter from it so ahe actually doses the homework she > susposed to be doing. > I can't find a way to block a cetian ip address or site name. Is > there a plug-in or add-on to allow me to block sites. Cyber Source's suggestion is a good one (putting in /etc/hosts or Windows' host file). I set up my home network to where all the machines on it run thru a Linux gateway/router before going out to the net. Before either of my kids' machines are allowed to access a site, it checks to see if that site/ip address is listed as an allowed site (in a MySQL db that my wife and I can admin via a web interface). If it's not allowed, they're redirected the Apache server running on that box. This way, they have to come to us to get access to the site, and we can check it out first. -- John C. Nichel ?berGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 john@kegworks.com From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Fri Mar 11 09:29:48 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Mozillia In-Reply-To: <4231A7BF.1050304@kegworks.com> References: <20050311001926.22972.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> <4231A7BF.1050304@kegworks.com> Message-ID: <4231AB5C.1000802@Dynabrade.com> If you wanted to setup a squid proxy server on a linux box you can setup all kinds of access controll lists keyword,url, ip, ect. I believe you can even do acls by time no browsing between 8-9pm for example. Then you would setup mozilla to use the proxy settings of your new squid proxy server. Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/11/2005 9:14 AM, John Nichel wrote: > Kenneth Lawson wrote: > >> Hi All; >> >> I have a mozillia problem. I need to block a certian site to >> keep my daughter from it so ahe actually doses the homework she >> susposed to be doing. >> I can't find a way to block a cetian ip address or site name. Is >> there a plug-in or add-on to allow me to block sites. > > > Cyber Source's suggestion is a good one (putting in /etc/hosts or > Windows' host file). I set up my home network to where all the > machines on it run thru a Linux gateway/router before going out to the > net. Before either of my kids' machines are allowed to access a site, > it checks to see if that site/ip address is listed as an allowed site > (in a MySQL db that my wife and I can admin via a web interface). If > it's not allowed, they're redirected the Apache server running on that > box. This way, they have to come to us to get access to the site, and > we can check it out first. > From chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com Fri Mar 11 10:40:38 2005 From: chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com (Charles H. Root, III) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: <20050310173318.937.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Gang: My VAR is Joe Manzella from PCI. He knows the complicated ins & outs of the Citrix licensing world quite well. Give him a shout at 856-7181. I'm sure he can assist you with your Citrix questions and needs. My understanding is this: The server side licensing is tricky. The client software residing on the workstation or thin client is free. In fact, you can go to http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/downloads.asp and freely download clients for pretty much any modern OS. I don't believe for a minute that you are required to purchase a Win2K license for MacOS, Linux, Win98 and NT4 clients that connect into a Citrix server. These vendors may not get it or are just trying to get you to spend money on something you don't need. Get another opinion... Call Joe. Good luck! chaz -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Tom McKim Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:33 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- --- "Charles H. Root, III" wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are > now rolling out Linux > based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X > Windows and the Citrix > client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy > or use old computers, > and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License > fee. I've saved the > company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on > PCS. Almost $100K in > one year. Our CFO loves me! Do you have any information on the Licensing? I have been trying to get answers on this. I asked the two vendors that we're selling it to me and I spoke to a licenseing rep at Microsoft. It's been over a year so but I recall them saying that if you are going to be using Terminal Services with or with out CITRIX, you need a terminal service license per client. That is a no-brainer so I purchased 40 Termainal Service Licenses to go along with the 40 Citrix Liceneses. I was also told if you are going to be connecting from a Non-Windows 2000 (NT4, Win 98, Linux) then you need to pay for a Windows 2000 License per box. On top of that you would need a license for each client for office. Tom McKim, MCSE Network Administrator Niagara Chocolates 3500 Genesee Street Buffalo, New York 14225 tmckim@niagarachocolates.com mckimt@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. From dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com Fri Mar 11 11:04:23 2005 From: dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com (Dennis Ruzeski) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Answer-- RE: OpenLDAP references Message-ID: I should have already known this, but O'Reilly to the rescue! The 'ferret' book, LDAP System Administration by Gerald Carter saved the day. Before you even think about setting up ldap, get this book and check out the following websites http://www.padl.com http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/ldap.htm http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/ldap-linux.htm The websites are great, but the book is the bomb.. --Dennis -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Dennis Ruzeski Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:10 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: OpenLDAP references Importance: Low Greetings, all- Here's my situation. We've gotten to the point here where there's a need for central authentication for our developers. Rather than set up NIS+ or try to use our M$ Active Directory, we're setting up an LDAP server. No problem. The server and database is set up properly and I can use authconfig to make the linux systems point to it. The problem is in the details- User home directories, for example. I know I don't need a copy on every box- How do I get it to be available on the logged-in system? What I'm looking for is a decent reference on how to set up the stuff that authconfig doesn't (pam, home directories, email, etc....) TIA, Dennis From josephj at main.nc.us Fri Mar 11 09:30:56 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Konqueror problem Message-ID: <4231ABA0.6030301@main.nc.us> Hi. When I click on a local postscript file in konqueror, I get an error message that says: The desktop entry file /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/convertpstopdf.desktop has an invalid menu entry convertpstopdf. Can someone tell me how to fix this? If I click on OK, the file is then correctly displayed. Mandrake 9.1 rc2, kde 3.1.0, konqueror 3.1.0 Thanks, Joe [bigbird@localhost tmp]$ locate convertpstopdf.desktop /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/convertpstopdf.desktop [bigbird@localhost tmp]$ [bigbird@localhost tmp]$ cat /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/convertpstopdf.desktop [Desktop Entry] ServiceTypes=application/postscript Actions=convertpstopdf TryExec=ps2pdf [Desktop Action convertpdftops] Name=Convert PS file to PDF Exec=ps2pdf %f.ps %f.pdf [bigbird@localhost tmp]$ -- It is not well to see everything, to hear everything; let many causes of offense pass by us unnoticed. -Lucius Annaeus Seneca From lasker at eng.buffalo.edu Fri Mar 11 12:55:34 2005 From: lasker at eng.buffalo.edu (Jason Lasker) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200503111755.j2BHteDg018211@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> This page may clear up (or not) the Windows 2003 Server CAL and Terminal Server CAL requirements. For 2003 server you need one CAL and one TS CAL for each client connection. But if your client is XP pro you can get a TS-CAL for free. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/terminal/termin al_faq.mspx#XSLTfaqSection121123121120120 So if I understand this correctly if you have a Linux or any other non XP pro client you need to have one regular CAL one TS-CAL per connection. (The XP Pro TS-CAL being "free") Then add your citrix licensing on top of that..... My head hurts... I'm going back to sleep now.... Jason Lasker Senior Programmer Analyst/Systems Administrator University at Buffalo Science and Engineering Node Services 113 Bell Hall Buffalo, NY 14260-2050 Voice 716-645-3797 x2172 Fax 716-645-3704 email mailto:lasker@eng.buffalo.edu -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Charles H. Root, III Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:41 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- Hello Gang: My VAR is Joe Manzella from PCI. He knows the complicated ins & outs of the Citrix licensing world quite well. Give him a shout at 856-7181. I'm sure he can assist you with your Citrix questions and needs. My understanding is this: The server side licensing is tricky. The client software residing on the workstation or thin client is free. In fact, you can go to http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/downloads.asp and freely download clients for pretty much any modern OS. I don't believe for a minute that you are required to purchase a Win2K license for MacOS, Linux, Win98 and NT4 clients that connect into a Citrix server. These vendors may not get it or are just trying to get you to spend money on something you don't need. Get another opinion... Call Joe. Good luck! chaz -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Tom McKim Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:33 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts- --- "Charles H. Root, III" wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out > Linux based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and > the Citrix client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use > old computers, and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. > I've saved the company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on > PCS. Almost $100K in one year. Our CFO loves me! Do you have any information on the Licensing? I have been trying to get answers on this. I asked the two vendors that we're selling it to me and I spoke to a licenseing rep at Microsoft. It's been over a year so but I recall them saying that if you are going to be using Terminal Services with or with out CITRIX, you need a terminal service license per client. That is a no-brainer so I purchased 40 Termainal Service Licenses to go along with the 40 Citrix Liceneses. I was also told if you are going to be connecting from a Non-Windows 2000 (NT4, Win 98, Linux) then you need to pay for a Windows 2000 License per box. On top of that you would need a license for each client for office. Tom McKim, MCSE Network Administrator Niagara Chocolates 3500 Genesee Street Buffalo, New York 14225 tmckim@niagarachocolates.com mckimt@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. From josephj at main.nc.us Fri Mar 11 13:15:00 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review In-Reply-To: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> References: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> Any chance you (generically speaking) could add a printer friendly button to you article pages? I usually read anything more than a few paragraphs offline (on paper). Joe Kevin E. Glosser wrote: > Today, we posted our Cedega 4.2.1 review. You can check it out here... > > http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/staticpages/index.php?page=20050306045044463 > > > Cedega is a commercial version of W.I.N.E. that allows you play > Windows games in Linux. I tested it with World of Warcraft, Half-Life > 2 and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Hope you enjoy it. > > KEG > -- "Sooner or later all the people of the world will have to discover a way to live together in peace and thereby transform this pending cosmic elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. This is why right temporarily defeated is stronger than evil triumphant." --Martin Luther King From brett at consumersbeverages.com Fri Mar 11 14:33:30 2005 From: brett at consumersbeverages.com (Brett Hamann) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: VoiceMail Message-ID: <001d01c52671$347267c0$9600010a@inv3> Has anyone in the group installed a voicemail system using a Linux solution? I was looking for a stand alone system that would hook up to different PBXs. Mine would be a Merlin 820. I'm sure there is a large demand for something like this. Just thought I would throw it out there... Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050311/398add9e/attachment-0001.html From mmusone at shatterit.com Fri Mar 11 14:55:20 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: VoiceMail In-Reply-To: <001d01c52671$347267c0$9600010a@inv3> Message-ID: <000201c52674$416de4b0$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> We primarily use asterisk for our voicemail system. It allows us to not only have a voicemail system, but an entire PBX and VOIP capability both internal to the office and through external VOIP providers -Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:34 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: VoiceMail Has anyone in the group installed a voicemail system using a Linux solution? I was looking for a stand alone system that would hook up to different PBXs. Mine would be a Merlin 820. I'm sure there is a large demand for something like this. Just thought I would throw it out there... Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050311/b74428b0/attachment-0001.html From qfwfq at adelphia.net Fri Mar 11 15:38:37 2005 From: qfwfq at adelphia.net (Stephen Burke) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review >> printer friendly In-Reply-To: <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> References: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <423201CD.9070106@adelphia.net> One solution would be to just select the text of the article, copy it into the text editor/word processor of your choice, and print from there. A nice thing about linux is that after you select what you want in the browser (or any other) window, you can just go to where you want to paste it and do that by simply clicking the middle mouse button, without having to remember if you copied it in the first window or not. This could well be one of my favorite things about linux , but I don't think it has been documented all that widely yet. I learned it by seeing someone do it (on a Sun box) and thinking, "wow," or something like that, and I have gotten similar responses by showing this trick to people who had been using linux for years and never knew about it, so please forgive me if this is considered common knowledge. If you have a wheel mouse, the wheel is the middle button, and clickable. If you have a 2 button mouse, hopefully you checked "emulate 3 buttons" during your install, which works by clicking left and right buttona at the same time to make the 3rd (middle) click. Now if I could just find a 3-button optical mouse, I'd be all set. If anyone here has found one anywhere (I've looked just about everywhere with no luck), please enlighten me on where to get one. Plenty of wheel optical ones available, but only the trackball variety for 3-buttons for some reason, and they always require tedious, delicate cleaning maneuvers when things start getting all jerky. The middle buton is also better for scrolling up and down windows with a single click, imho (you scroll to wherever the middle button is clicked on the scrollbar - found that trick in the emacs tutorial, btw). It is also invaluable when you break away from the gnome/kde taskbar (trough) realm and start using various other window managers like enlightenment, blackbox, etc. Oddly enough, the 3-button mouse I have here had M$ logos all over the box, but I still haven't figured out what a 3 button mouse would be good for in windows, or if the middle button would even have any function. doesn't seem to do much of anything on the 2k side of this hard drive, anyway. S. Joe wrote: > Any chance you (generically speaking) could add a printer friendly > button to you article pages? I usually read anything more than a few > paragraphs offline (on paper). > > Joe > > Kevin E. Glosser wrote: > >> Today, we posted our Cedega 4.2.1 review. You can check it out here... >> >> http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/staticpages/index.php?page=20050306045044463 >> >> >> Cedega is a commercial version of W.I.N.E. that allows you play >> Windows games in Linux. I tested it with World of Warcraft, Half-Life >> 2 and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Hope you enjoy it. >> >> KEG >> > From brett at consumersbeverages.com Fri Mar 11 16:35:43 2005 From: brett at consumersbeverages.com (Brett Hamann) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: VoiceMail References: <000201c52674$416de4b0$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <020701c52682$47639640$9600010a@inv3> ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Musone To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: RE: VoiceMail We primarily use asterisk for our voicemail system. It allows us to not only have a voicemail system, but an entire PBX and VOIP capability both internal to the office and through external VOIP providers -Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:34 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: VoiceMail Has anyone in the group installed a voicemail system using a Linux solution? I was looking for a stand alone system that would hook up to different PBXs. Mine would be a Merlin 820. I'm sure there is a large demand for something like this. Just thought I would throw it out there... I'm aware of asterisk but I though that was mostly for VOIP systems. Is there a way to build an internal PBX using regular POTS lines? How about features like transfer calls, conference call, displaying which lines are in use? Thanks for the info Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050311/df01489e/attachment-0001.html From dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com Fri Mar 11 16:46:22 2005 From: dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com (Dennis Ruzeski) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: VoiceMail Message-ID: The short answer is 'Hell yes'. Check out the asterisk website and this article.. http://techdatapros.com/asterisk/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:36 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: VoiceMail Importance: Low ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Musone To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: RE: VoiceMail We primarily use asterisk for our voicemail system. It allows us to not only have a voicemail system, but an entire PBX and VOIP capability both internal to the office and through external VOIP providers -Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:34 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: VoiceMail Has anyone in the group installed a voicemail system using a Linux solution? I was looking for a stand alone system that would hook up to different PBXs. Mine would be a Merlin 820. I'm sure there is a large demand for something like this. Just thought I would throw it out there... I'm aware of asterisk but I though that was mostly for VOIP systems. Is there a way to build an internal PBX using regular POTS lines? How about features like transfer calls, conference call, displaying which lines are in use? Thanks for the info Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050311/da457b7d/attachment-0001.html From mmusone at shatterit.com Fri Mar 11 17:12:33 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: VoiceMail In-Reply-To: <020701c52682$47639640$9600010a@inv3> Message-ID: <000601c52687$6cf62bc0$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Yep, asterisk support T-1 cards, POTS line cards.etc.. If you go to the digium site: http://www.digium.com/ you'll see all of the cards they offer that work with asterisk. Heres most of the list: Also, if you want to just try out a plain POTS line with asterisk as a test base, I can show you where to get a single line POTS asterisk card for about $8.00 Wildcard TE410P Quad-Span togglable E1/T1 card enables per card or per port selection of either T1 or E1 signaling formats (3.3 volt PCI only). Wildcard TE405P Quad-Span togglable E1/T1 card enables per card or per-port selection of either T1 or E1 signaling formats (5.0 volt PCI only). Wildcard TDM400P Quad-Port half-length PCI card which supports standard analog or ADSI telephones and regular POTS lines. Wildcard TE110P Single-Span selectable T1 / E1 half-length (available with 2U bracket) PCI card sporting the same features as the TE410P. FXO Module FXO Module for use with the Wildcard TDM400P. FXS Module FXS Module for use with the Wildcard TDM400P. S100I / "IAXyT" Single CPE fully featured FXS interface with an Ethernet back-end, speaking the Asterisk-native IAXT protocol. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:36 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: VoiceMail ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Musone To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: RE: VoiceMail We primarily use asterisk for our voicemail system. It allows us to not only have a voicemail system, but an entire PBX and VOIP capability both internal to the office and through external VOIP providers -Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Hamann Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:34 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: VoiceMail Has anyone in the group installed a voicemail system using a Linux solution? I was looking for a stand alone system that would hook up to different PBXs. Mine would be a Merlin 820. I'm sure there is a large demand for something like this. Just thought I would throw it out there... I'm aware of asterisk but I though that was mostly for VOIP systems. Is there a way to build an internal PBX using regular POTS lines? How about features like transfer calls, conference call, displaying which lines are in use? Thanks for the info Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050311/e089c564/attachment-0001.html From josephj at main.nc.us Fri Mar 11 17:14:44 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review >> printer friendly In-Reply-To: <423201CD.9070106@adelphia.net> References: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> <423201CD.9070106@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <42321854.4030007@main.nc.us> That works - even clicking both buttons on my touchpad works (I didn't know about that) - I'm hooked on touchpads built into my keyboard (on my lap) because I'm tall and don't interface well with standard furniture. I've never seen a 3 button touchpad. Anyway, what I like to do at many websites is click the printable version of what I'm reading. Generally, it gets more of it on the screen at once with less distracting ads, etc. and I don't have to worry about linking to all 15 parts. Then, if I want to print it, it's one print job *and* it keeps all its formatting which is lost when I cut and paste into any editors I know how to use (or even worse, sometimes I end up with partial HTML source code!) So even though your suggestion sort of works, it doesn't really do what I want. Joe Stephen Burke wrote: > One solution would be to just select the text of the article, copy it > into the text editor/word processor of your choice, and print from > there. A nice thing about linux is that after you select what you want > in the browser (or any other) window, you can just go to where you > want to paste it and do that by simply clicking the middle mouse > button, without having to remember if you copied it in the first > window or not. > > This could well be one of my favorite things about linux , but I don't > think it has been documented all that widely yet. I learned it by > seeing someone do it (on a Sun box) and thinking, "wow," or something > like that, and I have gotten similar responses by showing this trick > to people who had been using linux for years and never knew about it, > so please forgive me if this is considered common knowledge. > > If you have a wheel mouse, the wheel is the middle button, and > clickable. If you have a 2 button mouse, hopefully you checked > "emulate 3 buttons" during your install, which works by clicking left > and right buttona at the same time to make the 3rd (middle) click. > > Now if I could just find a 3-button optical mouse, I'd be all set. If > anyone here has found one anywhere (I've looked just about everywhere > with no luck), please enlighten me on where to get one. Plenty of > wheel optical ones available, but only the trackball variety for > 3-buttons for some reason, and they always require tedious, delicate > cleaning maneuvers when things start getting all jerky. > > The middle buton is also better for scrolling up and down windows with > a single click, imho (you scroll to wherever the middle button is > clicked on the scrollbar - found that trick in the emacs tutorial, > btw). It is also invaluable when you break away from the gnome/kde > taskbar (trough) realm and start using various other window managers > like enlightenment, blackbox, etc. > > Oddly enough, the 3-button mouse I have here had M$ logos all over the > box, but I still haven't figured out what a 3 button mouse would be > good for in windows, or if the middle button would even have any > function. doesn't seem to do much of anything on the 2k side of this > hard drive, anyway. > > S. > > Joe wrote: > >> Any chance you (generically speaking) could add a printer friendly >> button to you article pages? I usually read anything more than a few >> paragraphs offline (on paper). >> >> Joe >> >> Kevin E. Glosser wrote: >> >>> Today, we posted our Cedega 4.2.1 review. You can check it out here... >>> >>> http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/staticpages/index.php?page=20050306045044463 >>> >>> >>> Cedega is a commercial version of W.I.N.E. that allows you play >>> Windows games in Linux. I tested it with World of Warcraft, >>> Half-Life 2 and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Hope you >>> enjoy it. >>> >>> KEG >>> >> > -- "The United States has entered an anti-intellectual phase in its history, perhaps most clearly seen in our virtually thought-free political life." -- David Baltimore From keg at adelphia.net Fri Mar 11 17:41:36 2005 From: keg at adelphia.net (Kevin E. Glosser) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review In-Reply-To: <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> References: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <42321EA0.7070601@adelphia.net> Joe wrote: > Any chance you (generically speaking) could add a printer friendly > button to you article pages? I usually read anything more than a few > paragraphs offline (on paper). Our news articles have that capability, provided by GeekLog. The review, we did not post as a news article, it's a static page. Although, we could add this functionality, we're not going to. For two reasons, not including being mean. :) One, it was intended to be read online, contains lots of hyperlinks and some images. Two, as Stephen mentioned, you could always select all the text and paste it into another application and print it that way. I realize this isn't a fantastic solution. However, it is only copying a few pages of text and pasting them into OpenOffice or another app. A three button mouse is not required either. Simply, highlight the text of a page, and copy it via your browsers Edit menu(or by right clicking, or by using keyboard shortcuts like , or ). Then open a text editor and paste it(Edit menu -> paste, , ). I appreciate your feedback on it. I, myself, try to get away from my monitor as much as possible. I am keenly aware of the damage looking at a monitor does to your eye sight. The pixels cause our eyes to constantly be in use, due to the eye being able to see the fuzziness and lack of clarity in them. We as humans, cannot notice it, but our eyes can. This is what causes eye fatigue, if you spend too much time in front of your monitor. Your eyes are constantly working while you look at a monitor, struggling to put the fuzzy pixels in focus, regardless of the quality of your monitor. KEG From speljamr at speljamr.com Fri Mar 11 18:45:10 2005 From: speljamr at speljamr.com (Timothy J. Finucane) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: LinuxLinks Cedega Review In-Reply-To: <42321EA0.7070601@adelphia.net> References: <4231176C.4070009@adelphia.net> <4231E024.6040604@main.nc.us> <42321EA0.7070601@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1110584710.5560.0.camel@bossk.local> Someone could just put together a simple print.css for the site without creating a whole print template. Tim On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 17:41, Kevin E. Glosser wrote: > Joe wrote: > > Any chance you (generically speaking) could add a printer friendly > > button to you article pages? I usually read anything more than a few > > paragraphs offline (on paper). > > Our news articles have that capability, provided by GeekLog. The review, > we did not post as a news article, it's a static page. > > Although, we could add this functionality, we're not going to. For two > reasons, not including being mean. :) One, it was intended to be read > online, contains lots of hyperlinks and some images. Two, as Stephen > mentioned, you could always select all the text and paste it into > another application and print it that way. > > I realize this isn't a fantastic solution. However, it is only copying a > few pages of text and pasting them into OpenOffice or another app. A > three button mouse is not required either. Simply, highlight the text of > a page, and copy it via your browsers Edit menu(or by right clicking, or > by using keyboard shortcuts like , or ). > Then open a text editor and paste it(Edit menu -> paste, , > ). > > I appreciate your feedback on it. I, myself, try to get away from my > monitor as much as possible. I am keenly aware of the damage looking at > a monitor does to your eye sight. > > The pixels cause our eyes to constantly be in use, due to the eye being > able to see the fuzziness and lack of clarity in them. We as humans, > cannot notice it, but our eyes can. This is what causes eye fatigue, if > you spend too much time in front of your monitor. Your eyes are > constantly working while you look at a monitor, struggling to put the > fuzzy pixels in focus, regardless of the quality of your monitor. > > KEG -- ?They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.? ?Benjamin Franklin From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 23:44:38 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Headsets/Microphones Message-ID: <2af2a0db0503112044539bf1fc@mail.gmail.com> hey, I am looking for a name of a headset or microphone that works in linux i have seen some headsets that are usb which by pass the soundcard lik ethe logictech Premium Model 300. Does this work in Linux. I am aiming to use slackware 10.1 or FC3 Thanks -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From javabob at adelphia.net Sat Mar 12 06:01:39 2005 From: javabob at adelphia.net (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Answer-- RE: OpenLDAP references In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4232CC13.20708@adelphia.net> I checked out the web pages you provided. They are educational, actually I thought I knew more that I do about LDAP. I think I'll get the book you mentioned as well. My 800+ page book gives more of an understanding and not so much hands on stuff/ HOWTO's. Did you get everything working the way you expected? Bob Dennis Ruzeski wrote: >I should have already known this, but O'Reilly to the rescue! > >The 'ferret' book, LDAP System Administration by Gerald Carter saved the day. Before you even think about setting up ldap, get this book and check out the following websites >http://www.padl.com >http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/ldap.htm >http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/ldap-linux.htm > >The websites are great, but the book is the bomb.. > >--Dennis > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of >Dennis Ruzeski >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:10 AM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: OpenLDAP references >Importance: Low > > >Greetings, all- > >Here's my situation. We've gotten to the point here where there's a need for central authentication for our developers. Rather than set up NIS+ or try to use our M$ Active Directory, we're setting up an LDAP server. >No problem. The server and database is set up properly and I can use authconfig to make the linux systems point to it. The problem is in the details- User home directories, for example. I know I don't need a copy on every box- How do I get it to be available on the logged-in system? What I'm looking for is a decent reference on how to set up the stuff that authconfig doesn't (pam, home directories, email, etc....) > >TIA, >Dennis > > > > > > From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 19:20:47 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Sound Issues in FC3 Message-ID: <2af2a0db05031216205cf0b61a@mail.gmail.com> Hello, For some resaon my sound in Fedora Core 3 is not working but it was when i reinstalled it Yesterday. i did alsamixer made sure the channels were not muted made sure tyhe programs were set to use alsa and the sound card dectecter is picking up the card and configureing it but i do not hear anything. Any Ideas soundcard is Cirrus Logic SC 4614/22/24 P3 600mghz ram 192mb -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 11:41:52 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Meeting Next Week?? Message-ID: <2af2a0db050313084139c107ce@mail.gmail.com> Hey, Is there going to be a meeting next week. I remember bob saying there may NOT be but i have not heard anything since last month. If so any topic ideas?? -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Sun Mar 13 11:59:21 2005 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:21 2007 Subject: Meeting Next Week?? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050313165922.5989.qmail@web53808.mail.yahoo.com> I have found out that I won't be in town next Sunday. Unless someone else can run the meeting, we will have to postpone until the 27th. I have heard a bunch of things that people want to cover. Any volunteers for presentations. Please don't volunteer unless you're going to be able to be at the meeting. Cheers! Bob --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > Hey, > > Is there going to be a meeting next week. I remember bob saying there > may NOT be but i have not heard anything since last month. If so any > topic ideas?? > > -- > Josh > -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Sun Mar 13 14:23:13 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: GRUB Message-ID: <42349321.2000409@thecybersource.com> I remember here and there people being lost in the world of GRUB. Here's a good article regarding, showing some cool things you can do, and showing the 12735208347512 (estimated by me) advantages over LILO: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm -Jesse From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 22:04:26 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Meeting Next Week?? In-Reply-To: <20050313165922.5989.qmail@web53808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050313165922.5989.qmail@web53808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2af2a0db050313190460b7a637@mail.gmail.com> 27th is easter On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:59:21 -0800 (PST), Robert Meyer wrote: > I have found out that I won't be in town next Sunday. Unless someone else can > run the meeting, we will have to postpone until the 27th. > > I have heard a bunch of things that people want to cover. Any volunteers for > presentations. Please don't volunteer unless you're going to be able to be at > the meeting. > > Cheers! > > Bob > --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > > Hey, > > > > Is there going to be a meeting next week. I remember bob saying there > > may NOT be but i have not heard anything since last month. If so any > > topic ideas?? > > > > -- > > Josh > > -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From fkumro at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 12:41:11 2005 From: fkumro at gmail.com (Frank Kumro) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: CL Network monitor Message-ID: Is there any programs/commands for linux that allow me to watch the IO of the eth cards via command line? Example would be 123kbs in 109kbs out on eth0 (something like that or anything that has that data). Thanks again guys! -- Frank Shenanigans!! From dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com Wed Mar 16 13:00:15 2005 From: dennisr at corp.kanoodle.com (Dennis Ruzeski) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: CL Network monitor Message-ID: Try this-- http://freshmeat.net/projects/bwm-ng/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Frank Kumro Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:41 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: CL Network monitor Importance: Low Is there any programs/commands for linux that allow me to watch the IO of the eth cards via command line? Example would be 123kbs in 109kbs out on eth0 (something like that or anything that has that data). Thanks again guys! -- Frank Shenanigans!! From erek at nbtsc.org Wed Mar 16 13:09:28 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: CL Network monitor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050316180927.GA714@nbtsc.org> For top-like instant status, iptraf is pretty good. For historical graphing, use mrtg. I can send you my mrtg configuration for monitoring ethernet devices if you'd like me to. Or, there's always watch 'ifconfig |grep eth0 -A7 |head -n7|grep "RX bytes"' Erek On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 12:41:11PM -0500, Frank Kumro wrote: > Is there any programs/commands for linux that allow me to watch the IO > of the eth cards via command line? Example would be 123kbs in 109kbs > out on eth0 (something like that or anything that has that data). > Thanks again guys! > -- > Frank > Shenanigans!! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050316/51cee0b5/attachment-0001.pgp From fkumro at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 13:19:29 2005 From: fkumro at gmail.com (Frank Kumro) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: CL Network monitor In-Reply-To: <20050316180927.GA714@nbtsc.org> References: <20050316180927.GA714@nbtsc.org> Message-ID: Erek, That would be very helpful if you can send me your config file for eth device. I like iptraf but I am also going to install mrtg (Ive known about it but now i feel like installing it). Thanks again because iptraf was just what I was looking for. On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:09:28 -0700, Erek Dyskant wrote: > For top-like instant status, iptraf is pretty good. For historical > graphing, use mrtg. I can send you my mrtg configuration for > monitoring ethernet devices if you'd like me to. > > Or, there's always watch 'ifconfig |grep eth0 -A7 |head -n7|grep "RX bytes"' > > Erek > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 12:41:11PM -0500, Frank Kumro wrote: > > Is there any programs/commands for linux that allow me to watch the IO > > of the eth cards via command line? Example would be 123kbs in 109kbs > > out on eth0 (something like that or anything that has that data). > > Thanks again guys! > > -- > > Frank > > Shenanigans!! > > > -- Frank Shenanigans!! From erek at nbtsc.org Wed Mar 16 20:47:33 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: CL Network monitor In-Reply-To: References: <20050316180927.GA714@nbtsc.org> Message-ID: <20050317014732.GC28667@nbtsc.org> Frank and list, A (mostly) working example of my mrtg is available at http://admin5.blumenthals.com/cgi-bin/mrtg.cgi It isn't pretty, but it gives the information I need. You can download the configuration files and data-gathering scripts at http://erek.admin5.blumenthals.com/mrtgcfg.tar If you just want the main ethernet traffic, copy the "traffic analysis" target into your mrtg.cfg, and the system shellscript into /etc/mrtg/ Feel free to look around at some of the other targets too. If you want to use the port specific ones, you'll need to make sure that initmrtg.pl runs whenever the system boots and when the iptables rules are flushed. The email-related targets are exim specific, so I'd expect they'd take some substantial retooling to make them go on a different mta. Also, for the http hits and mysql counts, mrtg has a bug that causes a very high graph spike whenever you restart either daemon. This can be fixed by applying the included patch to the mrtg binary. Note that the patch can break accurate recording of high traffic routers when using the perminute option on them. Please feel free to ask me if you have any other questions. I'd like to hear if/when you get it working. Regards, Erek On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 01:19:29PM -0500, Frank Kumro wrote: > Erek, > That would be very helpful if you can send me your config file for > eth device. I like iptraf but I am also going to install mrtg (Ive > known about it but now i feel like installing it). Thanks again > because iptraf was just what I was looking for. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050316/33102a25/attachment-0001.pgp From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 11:11:11 2005 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Sunday's meeting Message-ID: <20050317161112.15756.qmail@web53810.mail.yahoo.com> OK, I am going to be out of town on Sunday but I have arranged to get someone to the office to open the place for the meeting. I need someone to step up to the plate and offer to run the meeting. I also need someone to volunteer to demo something or talk about something. I need some help, folks. I can't do it all myself. Cheers! Bob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From vlokstone at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 12:19:22 2005 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Sunday's meeting In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050317171922.38092.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Bob, I talked to John and told him I'd be available. As far as topics go, I'm currently setting up an LTSP thin client environment and would like to incorporate openmosix clustering. It's been done before and I would like to try that. Other things I've recently had some experience with include openvpn,asterisk,vtiger CRM, a web-based sugarCRM clone, (customer relationship management software). --- Robert Meyer wrote: > OK, I am going to be out of town on Sunday but I > have arranged to get someone > to the office to open the place for the meeting. I > need someone to step up to > the plate and offer to run the meeting. I also need > someone to volunteer to > demo something or talk about something. > > I need some help, folks. I can't do it all myself. > > Cheers! > > Bob > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Free Good Fire Bad __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From erek at nbtsc.org Thu Mar 17 13:01:14 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Sunday's meeting In-Reply-To: <20050317171922.38092.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050317171922.38092.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050317180113.GA17538@nbtsc.org> Hi, It all sounds interesting. I'd personally like to hear about open source CRM systems. Othereise, LTSP sounds good. Regards, Erek On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 09:19:22AM -0800, vlok stone wrote: > Bob, I talked to John and told him I'd be available. > As far as topics go, I'm currently setting up an LTSP > thin client environment and would like to > incorporate openmosix clustering. It's been done > before > and I would like to try that. Other things I've > recently had some experience with include > openvpn,asterisk,vtiger CRM, a web-based sugarCRM > clone, (customer relationship management software). > > > --- Robert Meyer wrote: > > OK, I am going to be out of town on Sunday but I > > have arranged to get someone > > to the office to open the place for the meeting. I > > need someone to step up to > > the plate and offer to run the meeting. I also need > > someone to volunteer to > > demo something or talk about something. > > > > I need some help, folks. I can't do it all myself. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Bob > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Free Good > Fire Bad > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050318/00be03f5/attachment-0001.pgp From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 17 15:10:40 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Powerlink Web Hosting Message-ID: <4239E440.5060903@thecybersource.com> Has anyone been able to have a web server or e-mail server with Powerlink? I hear they block port 80, but I noticed my upload speed has been steady at 50k and was thinking of having my own web server for personal use. Anyone been able to do this? -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Thu Mar 17 15:22:24 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Powerlink Web Hosting In-Reply-To: <4239E440.5060903@thecybersource.com> References: <4239E440.5060903@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <4239E700.6010100@Dynabrade.com> I used to have powerlink. I believe it's against your service agreement to host a web page. You'll have to read your agreement, or not. You can always run it on a different port. then the url would be http://xxx.xxx.xxx:8000 or whatever port you put it on. A guy I know runs his with ssl (https://) because port 443 is not blocked by his provider. Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/17/2005 3:10 PM, Jesse Jarzynka wrote: > Has anyone been able to have a web server or e-mail server with > Powerlink? I hear they block port 80, but I noticed my upload speed > has been steady at 50k and was thinking of having my own web server > for personal use. Anyone been able to do this? From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Thu Mar 17 15:23:04 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Powerlink Web Hosting In-Reply-To: <4239E440.5060903@thecybersource.com> References: <4239E440.5060903@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <4239E728.2080101@Dynabrade.com> If you don't have port 25 then you won't be able to recieve incoming email though. Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/17/2005 3:10 PM, Jesse Jarzynka wrote: > Has anyone been able to have a web server or e-mail server with > Powerlink? I hear they block port 80, but I noticed my upload speed > has been steady at 50k and was thinking of having my own web server > for personal use. Anyone been able to do this? From contactme at donmonroe.com Thu Mar 17 17:42:48 2005 From: contactme at donmonroe.com (Don Monroe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Powerlink Web Hosting In-Reply-To: <4239E700.6010100@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <42006BC900015A89@mta7.wss.scd.yahoo.com> It is against the TOS with Adelphia to running ANY type of server. That being said, I have run Apache on port 81, sendmail, Webmin on port 10000 and Tomcat on 8080. Telnet with ssh works (PuTTy) but I can't remember the port it uses. Don From kennethlawson2000 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 09:34:57 2005 From: kennethlawson2000 at yahoo.com (Kenneth Lawson) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Off Topice Wirless networking In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050318143457.47913.qmail@web53710.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All I know is is off-topic but I have a wirless problem. I just got a d-link wirlewss router and card for laptop. I managed to get them see each other, their both showing that they seem to be talking to each other. I am on a dial-up and using my xp drsktop as the gateway tothe router, Some said something about setting a stic ip address for the router for the card to find , I 'm not sure if that what I need to or what. Anyone have any ides how to make this work? Thanks in advance, Ken Ken & Nancy Lawson You may now see Our Pictures at http://www.civilwarimpressions.com and From robert_todd at adelphia.net Fri Mar 18 09:49:17 2005 From: robert_todd at adelphia.net (Robert Wolfe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Powerlink Web Hosting References: <42006BC900015A89@mta7.wss.scd.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006201c52bc9$a9aac890$640fa8c0@wolfe.local> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Monroe" To: Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Powerlink Web Hosting > It is against the TOS with Adelphia to running ANY type of server. That > being said, I have run Apache on port 81, sendmail, Webmin on port 10000 > and Tomcat on 8080. Telnet with ssh works (PuTTy) but I can't remember > the port it uses. Telnet uses port 23, SSH uses port 22. Robert Wolfe, Tier 1 Chat Support, Buffalo APCC Adelphia Communications PS: Don't worry! I won't blow ya in! From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 10:26:14 2005 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Off Topice Wirless networking In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050318152615.15489.qmail@web53801.mail.yahoo.com> Well, is the Dlink a router or a hub? I don't suppose it makes that much difference because you'd want to configure the Dlink for local only. I think that there are several Ethernet ports on there, along with the "WAN" port. If you connect everything to the Ethernet ports, turn off routing in the Dlink and tell it's DHCP to use the dialup machine as the default route. You'd have to remove the address that the XP dialup box is going to use from the scope in DHCP and make the XP box have a static address. I usually make it the last address in the subnet (e.g. 192.168.22.254) and then tell the DHCP scope to stop at 200. Then you'd set your dialup box to do routing to the local subnet and you're good to go. Personally, I'd set up a minimal linux box to do the dialup, using shorewall or some such for firewall. Then you don't have to worry about getting your firewall virused, trojaned or hijacked. Just a thought... Cheers! Bob --- Kenneth Lawson wrote: > Hi All > > I know is is off-topic but I have a wirless problem. > > I just got a d-link wirlewss router and card for laptop. > I managed to get them see each other, their both showing that they > seem to be talking to each other. > I am on a dial-up and using my xp drsktop as the gateway tothe > router, > Some said something about setting a stic ip address for the router for > the card to find , I 'm not sure if that what I need to or what. > > Anyone have any ides how to make this work? > Thanks in advance, > > Ken > > Ken & Nancy Lawson > You may now see Our Pictures at http://www.civilwarimpressions.com and > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ From mckimt at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 10:57:08 2005 From: mckimt at yahoo.com (Tom McKim) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Off Topice Wirless networking In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050318155708.86876.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> I agree with Bob. I would make one change. Don't set your XP compter with a Static IP manually on the PC. I would get the MAC address from that PC, and set the DHCP server on the D-Link to assign that MAC address with the X.X.X.254 IP address. It would make it easier to redirect everyone to where the Default Gateway is if you were to setup a linux box to do the Dial up, you would just have to get the MAC address of that Device and change it in the D-Link. Also if you had to Bring your PC somewhere else you wouldn't have to worry about setting up the IP address for the new network. Personally, If I use DHCP I want it to assign all address's even the Static Ones. --- Robert Meyer wrote: > Well, is the Dlink a router or a hub? I don't > suppose it makes that much > difference because you'd want to configure the Dlink > for local only. I think > that there are several Ethernet ports on there, > along with the "WAN" port. If > you connect everything to the Ethernet ports, turn > off routing in the Dlink and > tell it's DHCP to use the dialup machine as the > default route. You'd have to > remove the address that the XP dialup box is going > to use from the scope in > DHCP and make the XP box have a static address. I > usually make it the last > address in the subnet (e.g. 192.168.22.254) and then > tell the DHCP scope to > stop at 200. > > Then you'd set your dialup box to do routing to the > local subnet and you're > good to go. Personally, I'd set up a minimal linux > box to do the dialup, using > shorewall or some such for firewall. Then you don't > have to worry about > getting your firewall virused, trojaned or hijacked. > Just a thought... > > Cheers! > > Bob > --- Kenneth Lawson > wrote: > > Hi All > > > > I know is is off-topic but I have a wirless > problem. > > > > I just got a d-link wirlewss router and card for > laptop. > > I managed to get them see each other, their > both showing that they > > seem to be talking to each other. > > I am on a dial-up and using my xp drsktop as > the gateway tothe > > router, > > Some said something about setting a stic ip > address for the router for > > the card to find , I 'm not sure if that what I > need to or what. > > > > Anyone have any ides how to make this work? > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Ken > > > > Ken & Nancy Lawson > > You may now see Our Pictures at > http://www.civilwarimpressions.com and > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. > http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ > Tom McKim, MCSE Network Administrator Niagara Chocolates 3500 Genesee Street Buffalo, New York 14225 tmckim@niagarachocolates.com mckimt@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 11:35:35 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: NeroLinux/Burn software Message-ID: <20050318163535.90085.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone try the new NeroLinux burning software? I dont have burner on my box here at work.. http://www.nero.com/us/NeroLINUX.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Fri Mar 18 11:43:23 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: NeroLinux/Burn software In-Reply-To: <20050318163535.90085.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050318163535.90085.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423B052B.1040306@Dynabrade.com> nope didn't know it existed. I'm downloading it now. (I have a purchased version of 6 for windows). Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/18/2005 11:35 AM, anthonyriga wrote: >Anyone try the new NeroLinux burning software? I dont >have burner on my box here at work.. > > >http://www.nero.com/us/NeroLINUX.html > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Fri Mar 18 12:11:20 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: NeroLinux/Burn software In-Reply-To: <20050318163535.90085.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050318163535.90085.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423B0BB8.3000907@thecybersource.com> anthonyriga wrote: >Anyone try the new NeroLinux burning software? I dont >have burner on my box here at work.. > > >http://www.nero.com/us/NeroLINUX.html > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > yes I have it installed an burned an audio cd with it. Worked very well actually, and maybe a little faster. Interestingly it needed mpg321 to run. Also here's a whole story comparing nerolinux and k3b... http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/16/0026217&tid=185&tid=198&tid=106 I'll save you the suspense...K3B wins! -Jesse From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 15:47:22 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: firefox 1.0.1 JRE Install help Message-ID: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> I just did a clean install of firefox 1.0.1 now having hard time installing JRE I downloaded version jre1.5.0_02 but having trouble installing.Any good instruction for install? Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Fri Mar 18 16:15:08 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: firefox 1.0.1 JRE Install help In-Reply-To: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423B44DC.2020007@thecybersource.com> anthonyriga wrote: >I just did a clean install of firefox 1.0.1 now having >hard time installing JRE I downloaded version >jre1.5.0_02 but having trouble installing.Any good >instruction for install? Thanks! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > you could just cheat, go into the new location where it installed the new firefox and mv the plugins dir to something else then symlink the old plugins dir from the old firefox install From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Fri Mar 18 16:27:25 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: firefox 1.0.1 JRE Install help In-Reply-To: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423B47BD.9080805@thecybersource.com> anthonyriga wrote: >I just did a clean install of firefox 1.0.1 now having >hard time installing JRE I downloaded version >jre1.5.0_02 but having trouble installing.Any good >instruction for install? Thanks! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > im sure you have it installed correctly, but you have to tell firfox where to look for it. for instance, my /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.1/plugins has a symbolic link libjavaplugin_oji.so which points to /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so . just make that link and you should be all set. -Jesse From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 16:26:33 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: firefox 1.0.1 JRE Install help In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050318212633.69483.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> I get propmted in Firefox to download JRE automatically but JRE dosent seem to work. I never had this type of problem before. --- Cyber Source wrote: > anthonyriga wrote: > > >I just did a clean install of firefox 1.0.1 now > having > >hard time installing JRE I downloaded version > >jre1.5.0_02 but having trouble installing.Any good > >instruction for install? Thanks! > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > you could just cheat, go into the new location where > it installed the > new firefox and mv the plugins dir to something else > then symlink the > old plugins dir from the old firefox install > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From keg at adelphia.net Sat Mar 19 03:40:37 2005 From: keg at adelphia.net (Kevin E. Glosser) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: firefox 1.0.1 JRE Install help In-Reply-To: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050318204723.56472.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <423BE585.7040404@adelphia.net> anthonyriga wrote: > I just did a clean install of firefox 1.0.1 now having > hard time installing JRE I downloaded version > jre1.5.0_02 but having trouble installing.Any good > instruction for install? Thanks! Sun's JRE has had some issues with some distro's. I had troubles getting it to work with Fedora Core 3. It took a lot of digging, but it ended up being a bug with the JRE. It was a known bug, listed on Sun's site. I finally got "Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_01-b08" working with Firefox 1.0 and 1.0.1. The only thing required is to have a symbolic link to the correct file. On my computer the plugin directory is..."/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins" The symbolic link I have in that directory is..."libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /opt/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so" So... 1) Make sure you have a working JRE, more recent, the better. 2) Make sure you put a symbolic link in the correct plugins directory 3) Make sure you link to the correct file, there are more than one. In my case, to create the link..."ln -s /opt/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so libjavaplugin_oji.so" Hope that helps. KEG From green_man at bluefrog.biz Sat Mar 19 11:55:56 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: System Beep Message-ID: <20050319085556.6eb2cdbd.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Does anyone know of a program for Linux, or Windows, or both, that would redirect the system beep noise from the tiny, tinny speaker mounted on the floor of the tower, which can't be heard over a space heater in the room, to the speakers connected to the sound card ? Secondly, if such a program does exist for Linux, how do I get it to run automatically every time I boot ? Essentially, what is the Linux equivalent of putting a ShortCut in "C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\" ? -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live linux 2.4.27 From peter at thecybersource.com Sat Mar 19 10:36:35 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: System Beep In-Reply-To: <20050319085556.6eb2cdbd.green_man@bluefrog.biz> References: <20050319085556.6eb2cdbd.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <423C4703.604@thecybersource.com> S. Lawton wrote: >Does anyone know of a program for Linux, or Windows, or both, that would redirect the system beep noise from the tiny, tinny speaker mounted on the floor of the tower, which can't be heard over a space heater in the room, to the speakers connected to the sound card ? > >Secondly, if such a program does exist for Linux, how do I get it to run automatically every time I boot ? >Essentially, what is the Linux equivalent of putting a ShortCut in "C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\" ? > > > In Gnome, under preferences, sound for the events and under sessions you can put any process you want to start in there, i.e. numlock, etc.. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From hawkwynd at adelphia.net Sun Mar 20 11:03:16 2005 From: hawkwynd at adelphia.net (Scott) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Fedora Newbie Message-ID: <1111334595.7658.4.camel@zaphod> Just got my Fedora Core installed, and I've got some newbie questions. 1. when attempting to install my aha1520 scsi card (ISA), I've gone as far as I can with getting to working. I keep getting the same old "device not found" error. I have reserved IRQ 9 in the bios for ISA, and set the card to the proper settings. In winblows it worked flawlessly, but for some reason Lix wont play with it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. 2. How do I tell linux at boot to mount mapped drives? I have a nas on my network, and would like it to mount the share on startup. Thanks in advance. Please CC: hawkwynd at hawkwynd dot com with your replies, as I check that mailbox more frequently than I do this one. Scott From hawkwynd at adelphia.net Sun Mar 20 11:24:03 2005 From: hawkwynd at adelphia.net (Scott) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: More fun with modprobe aha152x Message-ID: <1111335842.7723.3.camel@zaphod> Here's the system log I get no matter how many different IRQ's I try. It looks like it *wants* to see the card, but for some odd reason, it's loging the interrupt? Any other ideas are appreciated: BTW, IRQ 9 is free as per SysInfo: Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s) Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: resetting bus... Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: vital data: rev=1, io=0x340 (0x340/0x340), irq=9, scsiid=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=1000, extended translation=disabled Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: trying software interrupt, lost. Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. Please verify. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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I have a nas on >my network, and would like it to mount the share on startup. > > >Thanks in advance. >Please CC: hawkwynd at hawkwynd dot com with your replies, as I check >that mailbox more frequently than I do this one. > >Scott > > > If the install didnt put the line "alias scsi_hostadapter aha152x" in your /etc/modprobe.conf file, you need to do that (without the quotes). Then you can mount the drives attached to it. If you need to boot from the drives attached to that controller, then you need to make a new initrd file, if you need instructions on how to do that, let me know. It appears that nas shares are mounted in Linux with NFS. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From erek at nbtsc.org Sun Mar 20 11:30:02 2005 From: erek at nbtsc.org (Erek Dyskant) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Meeting time? Message-ID: <20050320163002.GB9618@nbtsc.org> Hi All, Will the meeting still be at 1pm today? Erek -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050320/57a50fea/attachment-0001.pgp From peter at thecybersource.com Sun Mar 20 11:43:27 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: More fun with modprobe aha152x In-Reply-To: <1111335842.7723.3.camel@zaphod> References: <1111335842.7723.3.camel@zaphod> Message-ID: <423DA82F.6030907@thecybersource.com> Scott wrote: >Here's the system log I get no matter how many different IRQ's I try. It >looks like it *wants* to see the card, but for some odd reason, it's >loging the interrupt? Any other ideas are appreciated: > >BTW, IRQ 9 is free as per SysInfo: > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 >controller(s) >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: resetting bus... >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: vital data: rev=1, io=0x340 >(0x340/0x340), irq=9, scsiid=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, >synchronous=disabled, delay=1000, extended translation=disabled >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: trying software interrupt, >lost. >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. >Please verify. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s) >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: resetting bus... >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: vital data: rev=1, io=0x340 (0x340/0x340), irq=9, scsiid=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=1000, extended translation=disabled >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: trying software interrupt, lost. >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. Please verify. > > > sounds like a conflict, check out /proc/interrupts, even though it should be able to share the irq. I just checked online and found the manual for that, I will forward it to your other address. It shows that card has all sorts of jumpers (typical isa stuff) and it also shows that you set the irq with a jumper and it also shows that irq 11 is the default, check your jumpers -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From josephj at main.nc.us Sun Mar 20 11:49:53 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Firefox mailto problem Message-ID: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> Hi. I have Firefox 1.0.1 on Linux. I just clicked on a mailto: link and got some disk activity, but nothing else. How do I get it to go to Mozilla Messenger or Thunderbird? Related questions: Now that Firefox is all the rage, what does that mean for Mozilla development? I know the underlying code is the same, but is Mozilla as an application going away? Where do I ask Mozilla questions? I went to Mozillazine and only Firefox was there and the plugins I tried to install did nothing (even in Firefox). Joe -- "As a rule, I always look for what others ignore." --Marshall McLuhan From hawkwynd at adelphia.net Sun Mar 20 12:14:29 2005 From: hawkwynd at adelphia.net (Scott) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: More fun with modprobe aha152x In-Reply-To: <423DA82F.6030907@thecybersource.com> References: <1111335842.7723.3.camel@zaphod> <423DA82F.6030907@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <1111338868.2944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 11:43, Cyber Source wrote: > Scott wrote: > > >Here's the system log I get no matter how many different IRQ's I try. It > >looks like it *wants* to see the card, but for some odd reason, it's > >loging the interrupt? Any other ideas are appreciated: > > > >BTW, IRQ 9 is free as per SysInfo: > > > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 > >controller(s) > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: resetting bus... > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: vital data: rev=1, io=0x340 > >(0x340/0x340), irq=9, scsiid=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, > >synchronous=disabled, delay=1000, extended translation=disabled > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: trying software interrupt, > >lost. > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. > >Please verify. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s) > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x: resetting bus... > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: vital data: rev=1, io=0x340 (0x340/0x340), irq=9, scsiid=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=1000, extended translation=disabled > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: trying software interrupt, lost. > >Mar 20 11:09:28 CaveTroll kernel: aha152x1: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. Please verify. > > > > > > > sounds like a conflict, check out /proc/interrupts, even though it > should be able to share the irq. > I just checked online and found the manual for that, I will forward it > to your other address. It shows that card has all sorts of jumpers > (typical isa stuff) and it also shows that you set the irq with a jumper > and it also shows that irq 11 is the default, check your jumpers I've also set the jumpers, and have the manual for the 1520 controller, and I've double-checked the settings on the card to assure they are accurately set. While IRQ 11 is the default, my systeminfo settings say 9 is free, so I set the card to 9 and the bios (system) to reserve irq 9 for ISA. I have an advansys pci card, which installed with no problems, but the cable I have is cent50, which doesn't plug in the advansys card, and being Sunday I've little hope of finding a store nearby with a hd50/cent50 scsi adapter or cable suitable with the cdrom tower i need to control... I'll have a look at the settings again 2bsure. Scott From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 13:40:31 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Meeting time? In-Reply-To: <20050320163002.GB9618@nbtsc.org> References: <20050320163002.GB9618@nbtsc.org> Message-ID: <2af2a0db05032010407abea005@mail.gmail.com> hey, yes the meeting was at 1 and you are missing it with the whole of FIVE people but two whom are from the green party and have been drafted into the meeting but where is the speaker or etc who were supposed to be here????? Josh On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:02 -0700, Erek Dyskant wrote: > Hi All, > Will the meeting still be at 1pm today? > > Erek > > > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From rosonowski at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 14:06:32 2005 From: rosonowski at gmail.com (David Rosonowski) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:22 2007 Subject: Meeting time? In-Reply-To: <2af2a0db05032010407abea005@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050320163002.GB9618@nbtsc.org> <2af2a0db05032010407abea005@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd like to come to a meeting one of these days, any chance I could arrange a ride with someone well in advance or something? On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:40:31 -0500, Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > hey, > > yes the meeting was at 1 and you are missing it with the whole of FIVE > people but two whom are from the green party and have been drafted > into the meeting but where is the speaker or etc who were supposed to > be here????? > > Josh > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:02 -0700, Erek Dyskant wrote: > > Hi All, > > Will the meeting still be at 1pm today? > > > > Erek > > > > > > > > -- > Josh > -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > From keg at adelphia.net Sun Mar 20 14:32:36 2005 From: keg at adelphia.net (Kevin E. Glosser) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Firefox mailto problem In-Reply-To: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> References: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <423DCFD4.2020309@adelphia.net> Joe wrote: > Related questions: > Now that Firefox is all the rage, what does that mean for Mozilla > development? I know the underlying code is the same, but is Mozilla as > an application going away? We covered this story on March 11th at LinuxLinks.com. You can read it, at... http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/article.php?story=20050311161244400 Our news page, which currently has as a lead story another announcement regarding Firefox and Thunderbird... http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/ Our main page is... http://www.linuxlinks.com There are 28,358 links at LinuxLinks. <- Now with some Mac OS X links as well, in addition to all the Linux links. :) KEG From vlokstone at yahoo.com Sun Mar 20 14:50:31 2005 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Meeting time? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050320195031.56158.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry, no one got back to me on my offer, I did not know if there was or wasn't a meeting and/or anyone to let us in. I'm assumed the answer was no. --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > hey, > > yes the meeting was at 1 and you are missing it with > the whole of FIVE > people but two whom are from the green party and > have been drafted > into the meeting but where is the speaker or etc who > were supposed to > be here????? > > Josh > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:02 -0700, Erek Dyskant > wrote: > > Hi All, > > Will the meeting still be at 1pm today? > > > > Erek > > > > > > > > > -- > Josh > -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > Free Good Fire Bad __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 17:29:35 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Meeting time? In-Reply-To: <20050320195031.56158.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050320195031.56158.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2af2a0db0503201429ed5c987@mail.gmail.com> Bob did resond saying he found someone..... On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:50:31 -0800 (PST), vlok stone wrote: > Sorry, no one got back to me on my offer, I did not > know if there was or wasn't a meeting and/or anyone to > let us in. I'm assumed the answer was no. > > --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos > wrote: > > hey, > > > > yes the meeting was at 1 and you are missing it with > > the whole of FIVE > > people but two whom are from the green party and > > have been drafted > > into the meeting but where is the speaker or etc who > > were supposed to > > be here????? > > > > Josh > > > > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:02 -0700, Erek Dyskant > > wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > Will the meeting still be at 1pm today? > > > > > > Erek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Josh > > -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > > > Free Good > Fire Bad > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > -- Josh -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 17:30:54 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Meeting time? In-Reply-To: <2af2a0db0503201429ed5c987@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050320195031.56158.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> <2af2a0db0503201429ed5c987@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2af2a0db050320143074317861@mail.gmail.com> From: Robert Meyer Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org To: nflug@nflug.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:11:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sunday's meeting OK, I am going to be out of town on Sunday but I have arranged to get someone to the office to open the place for the meeting. I need someone to step up to the plate and offer to run the meeting. I also need someone to volunteer to demo something or talk about something. I need some help, folks. I can't do it all myself. Cheers! Bob From green_man at bluefrog.biz Sun Mar 20 21:56:10 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Firefox mailto problem In-Reply-To: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> References: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:49:53 -0500 Joe wrote about Firefox mailto problem: > Hi. I have Firefox 1.0.1 on Linux. I just clicked on a mailto: link > and got some disk activity, but nothing else. How do I get it to go > to Mozilla Messenger or Thunderbird? > I can't tell you exactly right now, because Puppy only has Firefox and Sylpheed, but in your prefs you need to direct it to the DEFAULT Mail Application. Choose either MozMessenger or Tbird, and it should work. When I reboot M$ I can tell more. I have Advanced browser set to use Moz Mail, Netscape using Tbird, and Firebird using Netscape Mail, just to keep IE, which I never use, away fom it all. The point is, if you run more than one browser like me, each will have it's own default mail app. > Related questions: > Now that Firefox is all the rage, what does that mean for Mozilla > development? I know the underlying code is the same, but is Mozilla > as an application going away? > It's looking like this might be the death of the dinosaur as we know it, the integrated suite, anyhow. I guess my Mozilla T-Shirt will be a collectors item, like the Mozilla 2002build I still run from Win95. I wonder what Netscape will do ? > Where do I ask Mozilla questions? I went to Mozillazine and only > Firefox was there and the plugins I tried to install did nothing (even > > in Firefox). > I know extensions and themes are version specific, VERY specific ! I hit that snag trying to use Firefox 1.0 extensions in Firefox 1.0 Preview. They wouldn't install, I had to search for Firefox 1.0PR extensions. I found these by digging in the Moz site, though of course Firefox is what they're pushing. http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/ http://mozilla.gunnars.net/ http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mozilla_Suite http://kb.mozillazine.org/Links_%28Mozilla_Suite%29 AAAaarrgh! I hate the way it "escapes" link addresses when copy/pasting to text. Here's what it actually looks like - http://kb.mozillazine.org/Links_(Mozilla_Suite) http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Mozilla_Suite -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live CD linux 2.4.27 kernel 500MB Linux Rules ! From pirrone at localnet.com Sun Mar 20 19:39:18 2005 From: pirrone at localnet.com (pirrone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Firefox mailto problem In-Reply-To: <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> References: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <423E17B6.8000205@localnet.com> S. Lawton wrote: >On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:49:53 -0500 >Joe wrote about Firefox mailto problem: > > > >>Hi. I have Firefox 1.0.1 on Linux. I just clicked on a mailto: link >>and got some disk activity, but nothing else. How do I get it to go >>to Mozilla Messenger or Thunderbird? >> >> >> >I can't tell you exactly right now, because Puppy only has Firefox and >Sylpheed, but in your prefs you need to direct it to the DEFAULT Mail >Application. Choose either MozMessenger or Tbird, and it should work. >When I reboot M$ I can tell more. I have Advanced browser set to use Moz >Mail, Netscape using Tbird, and Firebird using Netscape Mail, just to >keep IE, which I never use, away fom it all. The point is, if you run >more than one browser like me, each will have it's own default mail app. > > > > >>Related questions: >>Now that Firefox is all the rage, what does that mean for Mozilla >>development? I know the underlying code is the same, but is Mozilla >>as an application going away? >> >> >> >It's looking like this might be the death of the dinosaur as we know it, >the integrated suite, anyhow. >I guess my Mozilla T-Shirt will be a collectors item, like the Mozilla >2002build I still run from Win95. >I wonder what Netscape will do ? > > > >>Where do I ask Mozilla questions? I went to Mozillazine and only >>Firefox was there and the plugins I tried to install did nothing (even >> >>in Firefox). >> >> >> >I know extensions and themes are version specific, VERY specific ! >I hit that snag trying to use Firefox 1.0 extensions in Firefox 1.0 >Preview. They wouldn't install, I had to search for Firefox 1.0PR >extensions. > >I found these by digging in the Moz site, though of course Firefox is >what they're pushing. > >http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/ >http://mozilla.gunnars.net/ >http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mozilla_Suite >http://kb.mozillazine.org/Links_%28Mozilla_Suite%29 >AAAaarrgh! I hate the way it "escapes" link addresses when copy/pasting >to text. >Here's what it actually looks like - >http://kb.mozillazine.org/Links_(Mozilla_Suite) >http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Mozilla_Suite > > > > Gentlemen: Haven't followed this thread but if I understand the contents of this message go to ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.xxx/ and in user.js (create if not present) enter a path-correct version of the statement below: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto", "/usr/lib/thunderbird/email"); Frank -- humans may reply by deleting the x from my address From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Mon Mar 21 15:45:14 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting In-Reply-To: <002801c52e46$db823860$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> References: <002801c52e46$db823860$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <423F325A.1010708@thecybersource.com> I'd go if it wasn't a Thursday night. Definately never gonna work for me at least. -Jesse Mark Musone wrote: > Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting > > Date: Thursday, March 31st 6:00pm-9:00pm > > Location: > > The PCA Group > > Airport Commerce Park > > 455 Cayuga Road, Suite 200 > > Topic: > > Linux System Monitoring: How to monitor Linux servers and non-Linux > servers using Open Source tools to ensure reliability. > > Agenda: > > 6:00pm-7:00pm Overview of monitoring concepts and tools > > Concepts: > > Service monitoring > > Process monitoring > > Passive checks > > Active checks > > Dependencies > > Monitoring agents > > Downtime > > Performance data > > Check frequency > > Alerting > > Notifications > > Reporting > > Remote Monitoring > > Tools: > > Big Brother > > Big Sister > > SPONG > > Nagios > > Mon > > mrtg > > rrdtool > > 7:15pm-8:00pm > > Case Studies/Presentations: > > Dennis Ruzeski, Kanoodle > > Phil Seibel, Synacor > > 8:15pm-9:00pm > > Advanced Topics: > > Redundant/Distributed monitoring > > Integration with network/IDS monitoring > > Prediction > > Abnormal behavior detection > > Data Warehousing > > Trend/Forecasting > > Cross Correlation > > Because this is a new location, an RSVP is appreciated to ensure > enough seating. please send an email to rsvp@bplug.org > > The Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group is focused on the use of > Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have > organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of > interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a > corporate solution set. We disseminate practical information and > proven solutions from IT professionals who have successfully tackled a > wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. It?s a rare > opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers from > companies that are both local and national. > -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From mmusone at shatterit.com Mon Mar 21 13:50:31 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting Message-ID: <002801c52e46$db823860$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting Date: Thursday, March 31st 6:00pm-9:00pm Location: The PCA Group Airport Commerce Park 455 Cayuga Road, Suite 200 Topic: Linux System Monitoring: How to monitor Linux servers and non-Linux servers using Open Source tools to ensure reliability. Agenda: 6:00pm-7:00pm Overview of monitoring concepts and tools Concepts: Service monitoring Process monitoring Passive checks Active checks Dependencies Monitoring agents Downtime Performance data Check frequency Alerting Notifications Reporting Remote Monitoring Tools: Big Brother Big Sister SPONG Nagios Mon mrtg rrdtool 7:15pm-8:00pm Case Studies/Presentations: Dennis Ruzeski, Kanoodle Phil Seibel, Synacor 8:15pm-9:00pm Advanced Topics: Redundant/Distributed monitoring Integration with network/IDS monitoring Prediction Abnormal behavior detection Data Warehousing Trend/Forecasting Cross Correlation Because this is a new location, an RSVP is appreciated to ensure enough seating. please send an email to rsvp@bplug.org The Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group is focused on the use of Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a corporate solution set. We disseminate practical information and proven solutions from IT professionals who have successfully tackled a wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. It's a rare opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers from companies that are both local and national. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050321/7b595782/attachment-0001.html From contactme at donmonroe.com Mon Mar 21 17:24:52 2005 From: contactme at donmonroe.com (Don Monroe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting In-Reply-To: <002801c52e46$db823860$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> References: <002801c52e46$db823860$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <423F4963.5080400@donmonroe.com> I would like to attend. Do you need more information? Best regards, Don Monroe Mark Musone wrote: > Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting > > Date: Thursday, March 31st 6:00pm-9:00pm > > Location: > > The PCA Group > > Airport Commerce Park > > 455 Cayuga Road, Suite 200 > > Topic: > > Linux System Monitoring: How to monitor Linux servers and non-Linux > servers using Open Source tools to ensure reliability. > > Agenda: > > 6:00pm-7:00pm Overview of monitoring concepts and tools > > Concepts: > > Service monitoring > > Process monitoring > > Passive checks > > Active checks > > Dependencies > > Monitoring agents > > Downtime > > Performance data > > Check frequency > > Alerting > > Notifications > > Reporting > > Remote Monitoring > > Tools: > > Big Brother > > Big Sister > > SPONG > > Nagios > > Mon > > mrtg > > rrdtool > > 7:15pm-8:00pm > > Case Studies/Presentations: > > Dennis Ruzeski, Kanoodle > > Phil Seibel, Synacor > > 8:15pm-9:00pm > > Advanced Topics: > > Redundant/Distributed monitoring > > Integration with network/IDS monitoring > > Prediction > > Abnormal behavior detection > > Data Warehousing > > Trend/Forecasting > > Cross Correlation > > Because this is a new location, an RSVP is appreciated to ensure > enough seating. please send an email to rsvp@bplug.org > > The Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group is focused on the use of > Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have > organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of > interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a > corporate solution set. We disseminate practical information and > proven solutions from IT professionals who have successfully tackled a > wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. It?s a rare > opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers from > companies that are both local and national. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 From rwechter at liberatortime.com Tue Mar 22 08:55:16 2005 From: rwechter at liberatortime.com (Ronald Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: PHP Mail Programs Message-ID: <0A778DFEE212294CBC6BD99AA0C639E91F3DFA@vltw2k01.vltw2k.local> All, Besides squirrel mail, in your experiences, what other php mailers are out there and fully featured? Ron From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue Mar 22 09:25:16 2005 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: PHP Mail Programs In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050322142516.24369.qmail@web53804.mail.yahoo.com> There is always IMP. It's harder to configure but has more options. Cheers! Bob --- Ronald Wechter wrote: > All, > > Besides squirrel mail, in your experiences, what other php mailers are out > there and fully featured? > > Ron > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From yearke at eng.buffalo.edu Tue Mar 22 09:40:40 2005 From: yearke at eng.buffalo.edu (Dave Yearke) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: PHP Mail Programs Message-ID: <200503221440.j2MEeeIR016571@fate.eng.buffalo.edu> >Besides squirrel mail, in your experiences, what other php mailers are out >there and fully featured? I've been pretty pleased with Cyrusoft's (now ISAMET's) SilkyMail: http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail/ It comes with its own pre-configured Apache browser plus PHP 3, so setting it up is pretty easy, and you don't have to hunt all over the place for plugins. I've never tried installing it into an already running web browser, though. -- Dave Yearke, yearke@eng.buffalo.edu "Remember, you may have to grow old, but you don't have to mature". -- Red Green From speljamr at speljamr.com Tue Mar 22 09:53:22 2005 From: speljamr at speljamr.com (Timothy J. Finucane) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: PHP Mail Programs In-Reply-To: <0A778DFEE212294CBC6BD99AA0C639E91F3DFA@vltw2k01.vltw2k.local> References: <0A778DFEE212294CBC6BD99AA0C639E91F3DFA@vltw2k01.vltw2k.local> Message-ID: <1111503202.5793.7.camel@bossk.local> There are a couple full featured groupware applications that include email, such as eGroupWare(http://www.egroupware.org/) and more.groupware(http://mgw.k-fish.de/). Tim On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 08:55, Ronald Wechter wrote: > All, > > Besides squirrel mail, in your experiences, what other php mailers are out > there and fully featured? > > Ron From dudek at buffalo.edu Tue Mar 22 13:23:03 2005 From: dudek at buffalo.edu (David Dudek) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: UB Only: Linux/Web Support Student Assistant Position Message-ID: For University at Buffalo students only: Linux/Web Support Assistant ***We are currently hiring for this position.*** The Linux/Web Support Assistant assists ACT staff with support of Linux and web services. Some of the tasks associated with the postion are: * assist in the creation and maintenance of UB Linux * assist in the writting perl and/or php code * provide service and support to the UB Community Minimum requirements: * must be proficient at Perl and/or PHP * must be familiar with the Linux operating system and environment * must be available to work 10-20 hours per week during fall and spring semesters, and also be available to work over summer Apply at: http://wings.buffalo.edu/computing/act/application/index.shtml -- David Thomas Dudek http://www.buffalo.edu/~dudek/ From ebenoit at hopevale.com Wed Mar 23 14:31:07 2005 From: ebenoit at hopevale.com (Eric R. Benoit) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: PHP Mail Programs In-Reply-To: <0A778DFEE212294CBC6BD99AA0C639E91F3DFA@vltw2k01.vltw2k.local> References: <0A778DFEE212294CBC6BD99AA0C639E91F3DFA@vltw2k01.vltw2k.local> Message-ID: <4241C3FB.4080401@hopevale.com> I like Horde/IMP at www.horde.org it is an involved setup but well worth it. Ronald Wechter wrote: >All, > >Besides squirrel mail, in your experiences, what other php mailers are out >there and fully featured? > >Ron > > > From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Wed Mar 23 16:17:19 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Upgrade firefox to 1.0.2/How to Message-ID: <20050323211720.34882.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is a prompt that will update your firefox automatically. Is there a way to do this in Linux version? If not what is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get do that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna make it go smooth. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From green_man at bluefrog.biz Wed Mar 23 20:36:12 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Firefox mailto problem In-Reply-To: <423E17B6.8000205@localnet.com> References: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> <423E17B6.8000205@localnet.com> Message-ID: <20050323173612.10e5ba22.green_man@bluefrog.biz> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:39:18 -0500 pirrone wrote about "Re: Firefox mailto problem": > Gentlemen: > > Haven't followed this thread but if I understand the contents of this > message go to ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.xxx/ and in user.js (create if > not present) enter a path-correct version of the statement below: > > user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto", > "/usr/lib/thunderbird/email"); > > Frank > > -- > humans may reply by deleting the x from my address > BINGO !! that's the preference key you need to edit. On this live cd everything is pre-configured, so Preferential shows it as a user defined string with the value "mailto.sh". /usr/sbin/ mailto.sh looks like this: #!/bin/sh exec sylpheed --compose "$@" So if anyone wanted Sylpheed as thier mailer, I suppose they could just use the above command. The Preferential extension makes this much easier, because it will automatically create your user.js with the appropriate keys. I'm actually listed in the Help > About > Preference Documentation for the extension, because I sent in a list of ChatZilla preference definitions to the extension creator. I stumbled onto it after doing it the hard way *in Windows* for Mozilla: 1. Create a text file with the necessary preference keys [but don't use NotePad] 2. Zip this file 3. Rename to user.js 4. Put user.js in your profile directory 5. Restart Moz so it reads the new file With Preferential, select the pref you want to change, click edit, change it, click save :-) Plus Preferential shows you the "hidden" keys you don't see in "About:Preferences" Incidentally, ChromEdit does the same type of thing for Look&Feel and behavior, without changing the Theme. Sorry, I didn't mean for this to be a "sales pitch", but these are two must-have extensions as far as I'm concerned. -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live CD http://www.goosee.com/puppy linux 2.4.27 kernel 500MB Linux Rules ! From pirrone at localnet.com Wed Mar 23 17:55:10 2005 From: pirrone at localnet.com (pirrone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Upgrade firefox to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <20050323211720.34882.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050323211720.34882.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4241F3CE.6000700@localnet.com> anthonyriga wrote: >I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is a >prompt that will update your firefox automatically. Is >there a way to do this in Linux version? If not what >is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get do >that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do >upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna make >it go smooth. > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > Anthony, Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a button to check for upgrades to browser and extensions. Frank -- humans may reply by deleting the x from my address From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 08:26:32 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050324132632.54032.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> This is the default Firefox/0.10.1 that comes with Fedora 3. I dont see that in advance settings. YOu sure its there? I want to goto 0.10.1 to 1.0.2. Do I need to uninstall 0.10.1 and install 1.0.2? --- pirrone wrote: > anthonyriga wrote: > > >I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is a > >prompt that will update your firefox automatically. > Is > >there a way to do this in Linux version? If not > what > >is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get > do > >that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do > >upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna > make > >it go smooth. > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > > > > > Anthony, > > Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a button to > check for upgrades > to browser and extensions. > > Frank > > -- > humans may reply by deleting the x from my address > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From peter at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 24 09:20:50 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <20050324132632.54032.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050324132632.54032.qmail@web53304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4242CCC2.4080701@thecybersource.com> anthonyriga wrote: >This is the default Firefox/0.10.1 that comes with >Fedora 3. I dont see that in advance settings. YOu >sure its there? I want to goto 0.10.1 to 1.0.2. Do I >need to uninstall 0.10.1 and install 1.0.2? > --- pirrone wrote: > > >>anthonyriga wrote: >> >> >> >>>I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is a >>>prompt that will update your firefox automatically. >>> >>> >>Is >> >> >>>there a way to do this in Linux version? If not >>> >>> >>what >> >> >>>is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get >>> >>> >>do >> >> >>>that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do >>>upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna >>> >>> >>make >> >> >>>it go smooth. >>> >>> >>> >>>__________________________________ >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Anthony, >> >>Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a button to >>check for upgrades >>to browser and extensions. >> >>Frank >> >>-- >>humans may reply by deleting the x from my address >> >> >> >> > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > It's in 1.0, not sure about 0.10. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 10:03:51 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050324150351.77013.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> Pete What is the corrct way to do the update? Should I uninstall Firfox and install the new version? How do I do this? Just need some goos instruction had problems last time tried this. Thanks --- Cyber Source wrote: > anthonyriga wrote: > > >This is the default Firefox/0.10.1 that comes with > >Fedora 3. I dont see that in advance settings. YOu > >sure its there? I want to goto 0.10.1 to 1.0.2. Do > I > >need to uninstall 0.10.1 and install 1.0.2? > > --- pirrone wrote: > > > > > >>anthonyriga wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is > a > >>>prompt that will update your firefox > automatically. > >>> > >>> > >>Is > >> > >> > >>>there a way to do this in Linux version? If not > >>> > >>> > >>what > >> > >> > >>>is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get > >>> > >>> > >>do > >> > >> > >>>that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do > >>>upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna > >>> > >>> > >>make > >> > >> > >>>it go smooth. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>__________________________________ > >>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > site! > >>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Anthony, > >> > >>Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a button > to > >>check for upgrades > >>to browser and extensions. > >> > >>Frank > >> > >>-- > >>humans may reply by deleting the x from my address > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > It's in 1.0, not sure about 0.10. > > -- > cybersource.us > 115 Richfield Road > Williamsville, New York 14221 > 716-553-8525 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com Thu Mar 24 10:09:40 2005 From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting Message-ID: I'll be there. >>> denisesballs@thecybersource.com 03/21/05 3:45 PM >>> I'd go if it wasn't a Thursday night. Definately never gonna work for me at least. -Jesse Mark Musone wrote: > Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group Meeting > > Date: Thursday, March 31st 6:00pm-9:00pm > > Location: > > The PCA Group > > Airport Commerce Park > > 455 Cayuga Road, Suite 200 > > Topic: > > Linux System Monitoring: How to monitor Linux servers and non-Linux > servers using Open Source tools to ensure reliability. > > Agenda: > > 6:00pm-7:00pm Overview of monitoring concepts and tools > > Concepts: > > Service monitoring > > Process monitoring > > Passive checks > > Active checks > > Dependencies > > Monitoring agents > > Downtime > > Performance data > > Check frequency > > Alerting > > Notifications > > Reporting > > Remote Monitoring > > Tools: > > Big Brother > > Big Sister > > SPONG > > Nagios > > Mon > > mrtg > > rrdtool > > 7:15pm-8:00pm > > Case Studies/Presentations: > > Dennis Ruzeski, Kanoodle > > Phil Seibel, Synacor > > 8:15pm-9:00pm > > Advanced Topics: > > Redundant/Distributed monitoring > > Integration with network/IDS monitoring > > Prediction > > Abnormal behavior detection > > Data Warehousing > > Trend/Forecasting > > Cross Correlation > > Because this is a new location, an RSVP is appreciated to ensure > enough seating. please send an email to rsvp@bplug.org > > The Buffalo Professional Linux Users Group is focused on the use of > Linux and Open Source in professional business environments. We have > organized presentations and seminars, and bring up topics that are of > interest to people that use or would like to use Linux as part of a > corporate solution set. We disseminate practical information and > proven solutions from IT professionals who have successfully tackled a > wide range of enterprise Linux deployment challenges. It's a rare > opportunity to benefit from the experience and insight of peers from > companies that are both local and national. > -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From john at kegworks.com Thu Mar 24 10:56:01 2005 From: john at kegworks.com (John Nichel) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <20050324150351.77013.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050324150351.77013.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4242E311.9040505@kegworks.com> anthonyriga wrote: > Pete > What is the corrct way to do the update? Should I > uninstall Firfox and install the new version? How do I > do this? Just need some goos instruction had problems > last time tried this. Thanks Backup your profile; should be under something like... ~/.mozilla/firefox/yag63uft.default Something like that....just backup the whole firefox directory. Uninstall the old version. Install the new. Should work right out of the box, with all your preferences. You sure it's v0.10.1? Not 1.0.1? -- John C. Nichel ?berGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 john@kegworks.com From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Thu Mar 24 11:27:27 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <20050324150351.77013.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050324150351.77013.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4242EA6F.30809@thecybersource.com> apt-get install firefox. can it be much easier? -Jesse anthonyriga wrote: >Pete >What is the corrct way to do the update? Should I >uninstall Firfox and install the new version? How do I >do this? Just need some goos instruction had problems >last time tried this. Thanks > >--- Cyber Source wrote: > > >>anthonyriga wrote: >> >> >> >>>This is the default Firefox/0.10.1 that comes with >>>Fedora 3. I dont see that in advance settings. YOu >>>sure its there? I want to goto 0.10.1 to 1.0.2. Do >>> >>> >>I >> >> >>>need to uninstall 0.10.1 and install 1.0.2? >>>--- pirrone wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>anthonyriga wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there is >>>>> >>>>> >>a >> >> >>>>>prompt that will update your firefox >>>>> >>>>> >>automatically. >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Is >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>there a way to do this in Linux version? If not >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>what >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will apt-get >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>do >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>that for me? I had problems last time tryng to do >>>>>upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just wanna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>make >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>it go smooth. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>__________________________________ >>>>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources >>>>> >>>>> >>site! >> >> >>>>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Anthony, >>>> >>>>Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a button >>>> >>>> >>to >> >> >>>>check for upgrades >>>>to browser and extensions. >>>> >>>>Frank >>>> >>>>-- >>>>humans may reply by deleting the x from my address >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>__________________________________ >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>It's in 1.0, not sure about 0.10. >> >>-- >>cybersource.us >>115 Richfield Road >>Williamsville, New York 14221 >>716-553-8525 >> >> >> > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 13:30:02 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <4242EA6F.30809@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <20050324183002.21915.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> I did do apt-get to upgrade and it worked.I did notice though when you do that, the option to do automatic updates under edit>pref>advance are still not there. I uninstalled and loaded the full version of 1.0.2 and it did have the software updates option in preferences. Where should the default install of FireFox go? Just wondering what peoples preferences are? Thanks! --- Jesse Jarzynka wrote: > apt-get install firefox. can it be much easier? > -Jesse > > anthonyriga wrote: > > >Pete > >What is the corrct way to do the update? Should I > >uninstall Firfox and install the new version? How > do I > >do this? Just need some goos instruction had > problems > >last time tried this. Thanks > > > >--- Cyber Source wrote: > > > > > >>anthonyriga wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>This is the default Firefox/0.10.1 that comes > with > >>>Fedora 3. I dont see that in advance settings. > YOu > >>>sure its there? I want to goto 0.10.1 to 1.0.2. > Do > >>> > >>> > >>I > >> > >> > >>>need to uninstall 0.10.1 and install 1.0.2? > >>>--- pirrone wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>anthonyriga wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I noticed on Winblows version of Firefox there > is > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>a > >> > >> > >>>>>prompt that will update your firefox > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>automatically. > >> > >> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Is > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>there a way to do this in Linux version? If not > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>what > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>is the best way to do an upgrade? Or will > apt-get > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>do > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>that for me? I had problems last time tryng to > do > >>>>>upgrade and ended up redoing java too. Just > wanna > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>make > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>it go smooth. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>__________________________________ > >>>>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>site! > >> > >> > >>>>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Anthony, > >>>> > >>>>Edit, Preferences, Advanced, and there's a > button > >>>> > >>>> > >>to > >> > >> > >>>>check for upgrades > >>>>to browser and extensions. > >>>> > >>>>Frank > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>humans may reply by deleting the x from my > address > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>__________________________________ > >>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > site! > >>>http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>It's in 1.0, not sure about 0.10. > >> > >>-- > >>cybersource.us > >>115 Richfield Road > >>Williamsville, New York 14221 > >>716-553-8525 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > > > -- > Jesse Jarzynka > Cyber Source > http://www.jessejoe.com/ > http://www.thecybersource.com/ > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From john at kegworks.com Thu Mar 24 13:45:28 2005 From: john at kegworks.com (John Nichel) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Upgrade firefox 0.10.1 to 1.0.2/How to In-Reply-To: <20050324183002.21915.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050324183002.21915.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42430AC8.40701@kegworks.com> anthonyriga wrote: > I did do apt-get to upgrade and it worked.I did notice > though when you do that, the option to do automatic > updates under edit>pref>advance are still not there. I > uninstalled and loaded the full version of 1.0.2 and > it did have the software updates option in > preferences. Where should the default install of > FireFox go? Just wondering what peoples preferences > are? Thanks! Really your choice, but I'll usually put something like Firefox (that can be used by multiple users) in /usr/local/share -- John C. Nichel ?berGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 john@kegworks.com From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 14:18:12 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Dual port intel pro/1000 mt Message-ID: <20050324191813.74423.qmail@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone ever install gigabyte dual port nic cards in Fedora 3? I have done it with winblows and teamed the nic (to make the 2 ports act as one) to do load balancing . Is ther a way of doing this in Linux? We are setting up Cisco gig switches so need to install new cards. Any suggestions? Thanks! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From green_man at bluefrog.biz Thu Mar 24 10:49:12 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: Firefox mailto problem In-Reply-To: <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> References: <423DA9B1.2040004@main.nc.us> <20050320185610.648cf57b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <20050324204912.5a38585b.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Here's another site I have found useful in the past for Moz and Netscape info. http://sillydog.org/narchive/gecko.php -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live CD http://www.goosee.com/puppy linux 2.4.27 kernel 500MB Linux Rules ! From green_man at bluefrog.biz Thu Mar 24 11:32:53 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: bashrc question Message-ID: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Is .bashrc shell specific or is it a "generic" file ? i apparently don't have one currently. When I open rvxt, this is on the top of the screen: BusyBox v0.60.5 (2004.09.18-02:04+0000) Built-in shell (ash) Many of the common commands in bin and sbin are actually links to BusyBox. Is ash different from bash ? As this is a live cd, could this just be a typographical error ? What I really want to know is, if I make a bashrc would it be used, or if ash is different, what file do I need to put in ~ to change the command prompt ? I have never tried to edit bashrc before, because in other distros the command prompt has always been of the form: login name current directory, or something similar. Puppy has nothing but a prompt character in a terminal, so I figured this would be a good time to try, but the file's not there. -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live CD http://www.goosee.com/puppy linux 2.4.27 kernel 500MB Linux Rules ! From deadpoint at adelphia.net Thu Mar 24 22:00:47 2005 From: deadpoint at adelphia.net (deadpoint) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: bashrc question In-Reply-To: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> References: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <42437EDF.6070303@adelphia.net> busybox is an all-in-one executable meant which performs the function of other programs, like ls, cd, mv, sh, etc. it's usually only used on systems with little disk space, like distributions on a floppy. .bashrc is a user specific bash config file, where /etc/bash/bash.bashrc is the system default bashrc. darin S. Lawton wrote: > Is .bashrc shell specific or is it a "generic" file ? > i apparently don't have one currently. > When I open rvxt, this is on the top of the screen: > > BusyBox v0.60.5 (2004.09.18-02:04+0000) Built-in shell (ash) > > Many of the common commands in bin and sbin are actually links to > BusyBox. > Is ash different from bash ? As this is a live cd, could this just be a > typographical error ? > What I really want to know is, if I make a bashrc would it be used, or > if ash is different, what file do I need to put in ~ to change the > command prompt ? > > I have never tried to edit bashrc before, because in other distros the > command prompt has always been of the form: login name current > directory, or something similar. Puppy has nothing but a prompt > character in a terminal, so I figured this would be a good time to try, > but the file's not there. > From josephj at main.nc.us Fri Mar 25 10:15:27 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: backup problem using rsync Message-ID: <42442B0F.8000609@main.nc.us> Hi. I have a backup routine using rsync that runs from /etc/cron.daily. I've been using this script for about a year with no problems until recently. Lately, I was having some intermittent trouble with hdb1 not being found in the bios, but it's mounted now. Below is my daily backup script and the output it reports (errors). Any ideas on what's wrong and how to fix it would be appreciated. Joe fstab /dev/hda7 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda6 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sda1 /mnt/card vfat codepage=850,umask=0,rw,user,noauto 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos_hda1 vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/dos_hda5 vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,defaults 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/portable ext3 rw,users,noauto,exec,suid 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0 [root@localhost bin]# cat dailyback1 #!/bin/bash # Dailyback1 - (C) 09/24/03 - JPmicrosystems # Backup /home to big portable drive using rsync #This script does the actual work once invoked by su in dailyback0 (to get access to everything) # First, make sure the portable drive is mounted df | grep 'hdb1' > /tmp/backuptmp if [ -s /tmp/backuptmp ] then echo /mnt/portable already mounted else mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/portable status=$? if [ $status != 0 ] then echo "Couldn't mount hdb1 = status was $status" exit $status fi fi echo "Backing up /home with rsync" echo "Backup of /home - `date`" > /mnt/portable/rsync.log /usr/bin/rsync -n -a -H -z -P --delete --no-whole-file --stats /home /mnt/portable/homersync >> /mnt/portable/rsync.log status=$? echo "Backup Ended /home - `date`" >> /mnt/portable/rsync.log [root@localhost bin]# cat dailyback1 #!/bin/bash # Dailyback1 - (C) 09/24/03 - JPmicrosystems # Backup /home to big portable drive using rsync #This script does the actual work once invoked by su in dailyback0 (to get access to everything) # First, make sure the portable drive is mounted df | grep 'hdb1' > /tmp/backuptmp if [ -s /tmp/backuptmp ] then echo /mnt/portable already mounted else mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/portable status=$? if [ $status != 0 ] then echo "Couldn't mount hdb1 = status was $status" exit $status fi fi echo "Backing up /home with rsync" echo "Backup of /home - `date`" > /mnt/portable/rsync.log /usr/bin/rsync -n -a -H -z -P --delete --no-whole-file --stats /home /mnt/portable/homersync >> /mnt/portable/rsync.log status=$? echo "Backup Ended /home - `date`" >> /mnt/portable/rsync.log if [ $status -eq 0 ] then echo echo "Backup of /home successfully completed" echo else echo "Backup of /home FAILED with status $status" exit $status fi exit $status [root@localhost bin]# ./dailyback1 /mnt/portable already mounted Backing up /home with rsync readlink home/bigbird/.gconf/apps/gnome-settings/gedit/%gconf.xml: Input/output error readlink home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/Mail/buncombe.main.nc.us/Health.sbd/Psych.msf: Input/output error readlink home/bigbird/.fpm/fpm: Input/output error rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(620) Backup of /home FAILED with status 23 [root@localhost bin]# cat /mnt/portable/rsync.log Backup of /home - Fri Mar 25 09:54:31 EST 2005 building file list ... 31419 files to consider home/bigbird/.kde/share/apps/kalarmd/clients home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/Mail/Local Folders/Junk.msf home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/panacea.dat home/bigbird/.signature rsync[6738] (server receiver) heap statistics: arena: 7172760 (bytes from sbrk) ordblks: 3377 (chunks not in use) smblks: 2 hblks: 1 (chunks from mmap) hblkhd: 2265088 (bytes from mmap) usmblks: 0 fsmblks: 40 uordblks: 3809968 (bytes used) fordblks: 3362792 (bytes free) keepcost: 128720 (bytes in releasable chunk) rsync[6736] (sender) heap statistics: arena: 3547800 (bytes from sbrk) ordblks: 62 (chunks not in use) smblks: 0 hblks: 0 (chunks from mmap) hblkhd: 0 (bytes from mmap) usmblks: 0 fsmblks: 0 uordblks: 3380624 (bytes used) fordblks: 167176 (bytes free) keepcost: 127752 (bytes in releasable chunk) Number of files: 31419 Number of files transferred: 4 Total file size: 2359134213 bytes Total transferred file size: 69856 bytes Literal data: 0 bytes Matched data: 0 bytes File list size: 936488 Total bytes written: 936520 Total bytes read: 36 wrote 936520 bytes read 36 bytes 30706.75 bytes/sec total size is 2359134213 speedup is 2518.95 Backup Ended /home - Fri Mar 25 09:55:02 EST 2005 [root@localhost bin]# if [ $status -eq 0 ] then echo echo "Backup of /home successfully completed" echo else echo "Backup of /home FAILED with status $status" exit $status fi exit $status [root@localhost bin]# ./dailyback1 /mnt/portable already mounted Backing up /home with rsync readlink home/bigbird/.gconf/apps/gnome-settings/gedit/%gconf.xml: Input/output error readlink home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/Mail/buncombe.main.nc.us/Health.sbd/Psych.msf: Input/output error readlink home/bigbird/.fpm/fpm: Input/output error rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(620) Backup of /home FAILED with status 23 [root@localhost bin]# cat /mnt/portable/rsync.log Backup of /home - Fri Mar 25 09:54:31 EST 2005 building file list ... 31419 files to consider home/bigbird/.kde/share/apps/kalarmd/clients home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/Mail/Local Folders/Junk.msf home/bigbird/.mozilla/bigbird/1a414ofz.slt/panacea.dat home/bigbird/.signature rsync[6738] (server receiver) heap statistics: arena: 7172760 (bytes from sbrk) ordblks: 3377 (chunks not in use) smblks: 2 hblks: 1 (chunks from mmap) hblkhd: 2265088 (bytes from mmap) usmblks: 0 fsmblks: 40 uordblks: 3809968 (bytes used) fordblks: 3362792 (bytes free) keepcost: 128720 (bytes in releasable chunk) rsync[6736] (sender) heap statistics: arena: 3547800 (bytes from sbrk) ordblks: 62 (chunks not in use) smblks: 0 hblks: 0 (chunks from mmap) hblkhd: 0 (bytes from mmap) usmblks: 0 fsmblks: 0 uordblks: 3380624 (bytes used) fordblks: 167176 (bytes free) keepcost: 127752 (bytes in releasable chunk) Number of files: 31419 Number of files transferred: 4 Total file size: 2359134213 bytes Total transferred file size: 69856 bytes Literal data: 0 bytes Matched data: 0 bytes File list size: 936488 Total bytes written: 936520 Total bytes read: 36 wrote 936520 bytes read 36 bytes 30706.75 bytes/sec total size is 2359134213 speedup is 2518.95 Backup Ended /home - Fri Mar 25 09:55:02 EST 2005 [root@localhost bin]# -- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell From josephj at main.nc.us Fri Mar 25 11:17:22 2005 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:23 2007 Subject: bashrc question In-Reply-To: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> References: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> Message-ID: <42443992.4070801@main.nc.us> Don't know your answer, but ... Have you tried man ash? I don' t do much with bashrc, but I have a handful of small scripts I put there to use like shortcuts. Here's an example: # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi . . . bin() { cd $HOME/bin echo -en "\t\t" pwd } which is a little function which switches me to my bin directory and tells me what it did. [bigbird@localhost bigbird]$ bin /home/bigbird/bin [bigbird@localhost bin]$ Joe S. Lawton wrote: >Is .bashrc shell specific or is it a "generic" file ? >i apparently don't have one currently. >When I open rvxt, this is on the top of the screen: > >BusyBox v0.60.5 (2004.09.18-02:04+0000) Built-in shell (ash) > >Many of the common commands in bin and sbin are actually links to >BusyBox. >Is ash different from bash ? As this is a live cd, could this just be a >typographical error ? >What I really want to know is, if I make a bashrc would it be used, or >if ash is different, what file do I need to put in ~ to change the >command prompt ? > >I have never tried to edit bashrc before, because in other distros the >command prompt has always been of the form: login name current >directory, or something similar. Puppy has nothing but a prompt >character in a terminal, so I figured this would be a good time to try, >but the file's not there. > > > -- "Determine that a thing can and shall be done, and then we shall find the way." - Abraham Lincoln From green_man at bluefrog.biz Fri Mar 25 06:39:28 2005 From: green_man at bluefrog.biz (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: bashrc question In-Reply-To: <42437EDF.6070303@adelphia.net> References: <20050324213253.5c472d8c.green_man@bluefrog.biz> <42437EDF.6070303@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20050325163928.2557f1be.green_man@bluefrog.biz> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:00:47 -0500 deadpoint wrote about "Re: bashrc question": > busybox is an all-in-one executable meant which performs the function of > other programs, like ls, cd, mv, sh, etc. it's usually only used on > systems with little disk space, like distributions on a floppy. .bashrc > is a user specific bash config file, where /etc/bash/bash.bashrc is the > system default bashrc. > > darin Ah ! That explains it all. Puppy Linux is a business card sized linux live CD. It all runs inside a ram loop. My /etc is actually a link to /~/.etc that they did for backup purposes. I guess if I want to try to screw up a .bashrc, I'll have to do it on a full size distro that actually use bash. :-) Thanks for the explanation. Current uptime for this Live Cd is 11 days and counting, longer than I've ever had Windows continuosly booted ! -- Scott Sylpheed 0.9.99 Puppy Linux 0.9.7 Live CD http://www.goosee.com/puppy linux 2.4.27 kernel 500MB Linux Rules ! From niterav at adelphia.net Sat Mar 26 14:41:22 2005 From: niterav at adelphia.net (niterav@adelphia.net) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <1843352.1111866082859.JavaMail.root@web1.mail.adelphia.net> help From niterav at adelphia.net Sat Mar 26 14:42:29 2005 From: niterav at adelphia.net (niterav@adelphia.net) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <1878577.1111866149840.JavaMail.root@web1.mail.adelphia.net> unsubscribe nflug From niterav at sherman2k.com Sat Mar 26 14:47:24 2005 From: niterav at sherman2k.com (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: 21" Monitor Needs a Home Message-ID: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> All, I have a Sony Trinitron Flat CRT 21" Monitor (CPD-G500) that needs a home - Displays the Linux CLI beautifully (even for those who use glasses - You might not even need them anymore!). If you know of such a place please email me. Thanks, Ron niterav@sherman2k.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20050326/9b6c78bf/attachment-0001.html From sfielding7 at cogeco.ca Sat Mar 26 14:59:38 2005 From: sfielding7 at cogeco.ca (Stephen) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: 21" Monitor Needs a Home In-Reply-To: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <4245BF2A.1000501@cogeco.ca> What price are you asking for the monitor I have someone interested in a large monitor thanks Stephen Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > All, > > > > I have a Sony Trinitron Flat CRT 21? Monitor (CPD-G500) that needs a > home ? Displays the Linux CLI beautifully (even for those who use > glasses ? You might not even need them anymore!). If you know of such a > place please email me. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ron > > niterav@sherman2k.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 -- Hamilton ON -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 From sfielding7 at cogeco.ca Sat Mar 26 15:05:05 2005 From: sfielding7 at cogeco.ca (Stephen) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: In-Reply-To: <1878577.1111866149840.JavaMail.root@web1.mail.adelphia.net> References: <1878577.1111866149840.JavaMail.root@web1.mail.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <4245C071.1030006@cogeco.ca> Hi go to www.nflug.org select mailing list and send unsubscribe to list via email to address supplied we will miss you Stephen niterav@adelphia.net wrote: > unsubscribe nflug > > -- Hamilton ON -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 From fkumro at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 17:33:23 2005 From: fkumro at gmail.com (Frank Kumro) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: 21" Monitor Needs a Home In-Reply-To: <4245BF2A.1000501@cogeco.ca> References: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> <4245BF2A.1000501@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Please email me with a price :) On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:59:38 -0500, Stephen wrote: > What price are you asking for the monitor > > I have someone interested in a large monitor > > thanks > Stephen > > Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > > > All, > > > > > > > > I have a Sony Trinitron Flat CRT 21" Monitor (CPD-G500) that needs a > > home ? Displays the Linux CLI beautifully (even for those who use > > glasses ? You might not even need them anymore!). If you know of such a > > place please email me. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > niterav@sherman2k.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 > > -- > Hamilton ON > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 > > -- Frank Shenanigans!! From sfielding7 at cogeco.ca Sat Mar 26 19:59:36 2005 From: sfielding7 at cogeco.ca (Stephen) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: scsi install Message-ID: <42460578.5020701@cogeco.ca> Good day I am trying to install mandrake on a P3 733 MHz Asus CUBX system with a adaptec AHA 2940V2W scsi card device 5 is a Toshiba 640 cdrom mandrake 10 will not detect cdrom keeps asking for driver and none on list work. On some chooses it asks for a parameter I have passed the device nbr (5) but now luck. has any one set up a system with no IDE drives This inherited system has W98 running and all hardware works Thanks Stephen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 From djandruczyk at yahoo.com Sat Mar 26 20:57:13 2005 From: djandruczyk at yahoo.com (Dave Andruczyk) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: scsi install In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050327015713.41593.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> --- Stephen wrote: > Good day > > I am trying to install mandrake on a P3 733 MHz Asus CUBX system > with a adaptec AHA 2940V2W scsi card device 5 is a Toshiba 640 cdrom > mandrake 10 will not detect cdrom keeps asking for driver and none on > list work. > On some chooses it asks for a parameter I have passed the device nbr (5) > but now luck. > > has any one set up a system with no IDE drives > > This inherited system has W98 running and all hardware works > many insallers unfortunately assume the cdrom is /dev/hd?, I've come across this on several others. In every situation the easiest method was to temporarily plug in an IDE cdrom to do the install and pull it later.. Have you checked on mandrake's forums? Dave J. Andruczyk __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From sfielding7 at cogeco.ca Sat Mar 26 21:12:15 2005 From: sfielding7 at cogeco.ca (Stephen) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: scsi install In-Reply-To: <20050327015713.41593.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050327015713.41593.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4246167F.3010706@cogeco.ca> Would be nice to plug in IDE drive but user has them pluged with some unknown connector I can ot remove Dave Andruczyk wrote: > --- Stephen wrote: > >>Good day >> >>I am trying to install mandrake on a P3 733 MHz Asus CUBX system >>with a adaptec AHA 2940V2W scsi card device 5 is a Toshiba 640 cdrom >>mandrake 10 will not detect cdrom keeps asking for driver and none on >>list work. >>On some chooses it asks for a parameter I have passed the device nbr (5) >>but now luck. >> >>has any one set up a system with no IDE drives >> >>This inherited system has W98 running and all hardware works >> > > > many insallers unfortunately assume the cdrom is /dev/hd?, I've come across > this on several others. In every situation the easiest method was to > temporarily plug in an IDE cdrom to do the install and pull it later.. > Have you checked on mandrake's forums? > > > Dave J. Andruczyk > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > -- Hamilton ON -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/05 From peter at thecybersource.com Sat Mar 26 22:00:43 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: scsi install In-Reply-To: <4246167F.3010706@cogeco.ca> References: <20050327015713.41593.qmail@web14127.mail.yahoo.com> <4246167F.3010706@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <424621DB.2020506@thecybersource.com> Stephen wrote: > Would be nice to plug in IDE drive but user has them pluged with some > unknown connector I can ot remove > > Dave Andruczyk wrote: > >> --- Stephen wrote: >> >>> Good day >>> >>> I am trying to install mandrake on a P3 733 MHz Asus CUBX system >>> with a adaptec AHA 2940V2W scsi card device 5 is a Toshiba 640 cdrom >>> mandrake 10 will not detect cdrom keeps asking for driver and none >>> on list work. >>> On some chooses it asks for a parameter I have passed the device nbr >>> (5) but now luck. >>> >>> has any one set up a system with no IDE drives >>> >>> This inherited system has W98 running and all hardware works >>> >> >> >> many insallers unfortunately assume the cdrom is /dev/hd?, I've come >> across >> this on several others. In every situation the easiest method was to >> temporarily plug in an IDE cdrom to do the install and pull it later.. >> Have you checked on mandrake's forums? >> >> >> Dave J. Andruczyk >> >> >> >> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small >> Business - Try our new resources site! >> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >> > I just spent all morning on something similar. I have an external USB 2.0 hard drive enclosure for an IDE device that I wanted to put a hard drive in and have it boot FC3. Very long story short, after some googling, I learned some really cool tricks. Now I can take this USB device with my FC3 drive in to ANY pc that can boot from USB (most newer pc's) AND I can also boot to the existing from it with another stanza in GRUB. Anyway, I did a dump from our tweaked system drive but in order to boot from the device I needed to have the usb-storage driver loaded by the initrd image, so (I didnt know this before, thought I needed stuff in modprobe.conf) but with one command line like "mkinitrd --preload=ehci-hcd --preload=usb-storage --preload=scsi_mod --preload=sd_mod /boot/initrdXXX.img XXXX" where XXX is the number of the kernel. That one line made the new initrd image to boot the USB drive and load the stuff necessary to boot from it, too damn cool. In your instance, you might try passing something along in the boot line to begin the install, for instance, for FC3, even if I wanted to install to this drive, it wouldn't see the drive (or load usb-storage) unless I started the install with "linux expert", funny thing is, the rescue cd loads it fine. I found that googlin too, try "linux expert" at the command line to begin the install, it may work for mandrake too. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From adventsystems at verizon.net Sun Mar 27 14:49:50 2005 From: adventsystems at verizon.net (Advent Systems) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: 21" Monitor Needs a Home In-Reply-To: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <0MKyxe-1DFHFn2nf8-0006Q5@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <42470E5E.2010305@verizon.net> I'm looking for one. What is condition and price? Thanks, Bob Randal adventsystems@verizon.net Ronald K. Wechter wrote: > All, > > I have a Sony Trinitron Flat CRT 21? Monitor (CPD-G500) that needs a > home ? Displays the Linux CLI beautifully (even for those who use > glasses ? You might not even need them anymore!). If you know of such > a place please email me. > > Thanks, > > Ron > > niterav@sherman2k.com > From ron_browning14223 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 27 15:02:33 2005 From: ron_browning14223 at yahoo.com (ron browning) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: 21" Monitor Needs a Home In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050327200233.18866.qmail@web21322.mail.yahoo.com> Since I had laser eye surgery 12 times in the last two years! I too am interested. Phone is 875-5167. --- "Ronald K. Wechter" wrote: > All, > > > > I have a Sony Trinitron Flat CRT 21" Monitor > (CPD-G500) that needs a home - > Displays the Linux CLI beautifully (even for those > who use glasses - You > might not even need them anymore!). If you know of > such a place please > email me. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ron > > niterav@sherman2k.com > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 03/27/05 From EInker at gam.com Mon Mar 28 07:18:28 2005 From: EInker at gam.com (Inker, Evan) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <386AEEE1B7BAC34CB4DDF394C2349278D6ECBB@w2cs-nyk02.gam.com> unsubscribe nflug **************************************************************************** This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. 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To get the browser plugin working link ln-s /usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Mon Mar 28 13:37:03 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: Adobe Reader 7.0 link Message-ID: <20050328183704.53131.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-1.i386.rpm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From denisesballs at thecybersource.com Mon Mar 28 14:19:16 2005 From: denisesballs at thecybersource.com (Jesse Jarzynka) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: Adobe Reader 7.0 link In-Reply-To: <20050328183704.53131.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050328183704.53131.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <424858B4.6060806@thecybersource.com> anthonyriga wrote: >ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-1.i386.rpm > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > It is a lot nicer than say the old Adobe Reader. Loads a million times faster and uses gtk-2. However it isn't official yet and still testing and of course isn't gpl. GGV and XPDF seem to work fine but it is cool to see this coming out, and working particularly fast and well. -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From Ted.Draper at trekinc.com Mon Mar 28 14:42:42 2005 From: Ted.Draper at trekinc.com (Ted Draper) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: Adobe Reader 7.0 link Message-ID: <1B738B52F76670479061F519B5A3781E0473D5@trekmail.trek.trekinc.com> Question for the group. I just recently installed Fedora 3.0 on a computer and just want to use it to explore the web. problem is, I'm new to Linux (never used before)and installing modem and the like is proving to be a challenge. I did find the right drivers for my modems chipset and installed them on the computer. I don't use a network, and my modem is a dial up. I use netzero to surf the web with windows, and a version doesn't exist for Fedora, just Debian. Can I connect to the web somehow by using a terminal and just put my access numbers to netzero in it? If so, can you point me in the right direction on HOW to do just that? I did download a program called Alien that is suppose to convert .deb files to .rpm files. I hope that works. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Jesse Jarzynka Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 2:19 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: Adobe Reader 7.0 link anthonyriga wrote: >ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-1.i386.rpm > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > It is a lot nicer than say the old Adobe Reader. Loads a million times faster and uses gtk-2. However it isn't official yet and still testing and of course isn't gpl. GGV and XPDF seem to work fine but it is cool to see this coming out, and working particularly fast and well. -- Jesse Jarzynka Cyber Source http://www.jessejoe.com/ http://www.thecybersource.com/ From peter at thecybersource.com Mon Mar 28 15:10:44 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: modem thread In-Reply-To: <1B738B52F76670479061F519B5A3781E0473D5@trekmail.trek.trekinc.com> References: <1B738B52F76670479061F519B5A3781E0473D5@trekmail.trek.trekinc.com> Message-ID: <424864C4.7040905@thecybersource.com> Ted Draper wrote: >Question for the group. I just recently installed Fedora 3.0 on a computer and just want to use it to explore the web. problem is, I'm new to Linux (never used before)and installing modem and the like is proving to be a challenge. I did find the right drivers for my modems chipset and installed them on the computer. I don't use a network, and my modem is a dial up. I use netzero to surf the web with windows, and a version doesn't exist for Fedora, just Debian. Can I connect to the web somehow by using a terminal and just put my access numbers to netzero in it? If so, can you point me in the right direction on HOW to do just that? I did download a program called Alien that is suppose to convert .deb files to .rpm files. I hope that works. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of >Jesse Jarzynka >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 2:19 PM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: Re: Adobe Reader 7.0 link > > >anthonyriga wrote: > > > >>ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-1.i386.rpm >> >> >> >>__________________________________ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >>http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 >> >> >> >> >It is a lot nicer than say the old Adobe Reader. Loads a million times >faster and uses gtk-2. However it isn't official yet and still testing >and of course isn't gpl. GGV and XPDF seem to work fine but it is cool >to see this coming out, and working particularly fast and well. > > The only compatibility I have seen for netzero is with Linspire's custom Linux, they made an very complicated way to authenticate via software, netzero doesnt use straight PAP or CHAP authentication. If you have your modem working your almost there but you won't connect to netzero. Cyber Source offers a dial-up service with a special rate to NFLUG list members at $14.95 per month for 24/7 connectivity with Linux or Windows. Let me know if your interested. Thanks -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From linux478 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 08:15:55 2005 From: linux478 at yahoo.com (Michael Phillips) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: /etc/fstab Message-ID: <20050329131555.41871.qmail@web54102.mail.yahoo.com> In the /etc/fstab, how do I setup a mount point to 755 for directories and 744 for files? Also the drive is fat32. TIA Michael __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Tue Mar 29 08:34:57 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: maillog Message-ID: <42495981.8070801@Dynabrade.com> I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info for each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what date. As it is usually there is one line for receiving and one line for sending. I'd like to see one line with a to and from. -- Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 29 08:49:29 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: /etc/fstab In-Reply-To: <20050329131555.41871.qmail@web54102.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050329131555.41871.qmail@web54102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42495CE9.4080906@thecybersource.com> Michael Phillips wrote: >In the /etc/fstab, how do I setup a mount point to 755 for directories and 744 >for files? Also the drive is fat32. > >TIA > >Michael > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > That would be with the options umask (overall perms) dmask (directory perms) and fmask (file perms). Check the man page on mount for all the options. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From arctic91 at Buffalo.com Tue Mar 29 08:55:32 2005 From: arctic91 at Buffalo.com (arctic 91) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: Test Message-ID: <20050329135533.BCF17CC07F@ws4-3.us4.outblaze.com> Unsubscribe -- _______________________________________________ http://www.Buffalo.com , WNY's #1 Website Powered by Outblaze From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 29 09:14:06 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: maillog In-Reply-To: <42495981.8070801@Dynabrade.com> References: <42495981.8070801@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <424962AE.4070607@thecybersource.com> Justin Bennett wrote: > I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info > for each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what > date. As it is usually there is one line for receiving and one line > for sending. I'd like to see one line with a to and from. > a small script with grep should suffice for that. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From lspironello at hotmail.com Tue Mar 29 09:33:50 2005 From: lspironello at hotmail.com (Louis Spironello) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: maillog In-Reply-To: <42495981.8070801@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: >From: Justin Bennett >Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: maillog >Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:34:57 -0500 > >I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info for >each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what date. As it >is usually there is one line for receiving and one line for sending. I'd >like to see one line with a to and from. Hello Justin: A few good utilities for parsing most log files are: awk sed perl Awk can quickly parse out info by fields, records, etc. You may wish to check out the following article found at Oreilly's site: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/linux/2002/11/01/awk3.html Lou >-- >Justin Bennett >Network Administrator >Dynabrade, Inc. >8989 Sheridan Dr. >Clarence, NY 14031 > > From phat1801 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 10:16:20 2005 From: phat1801 at yahoo.com (Jeff Ford) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: Unsubscribe Message-ID: <20050329151620.73938.qmail@web54107.mail.yahoo.com> Unsubscribe nflug ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Tue Mar 29 10:22:38 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: maillog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <424972BE.70302@Dynabrade.com> I got it, it was a little of a pain. I have to read the file once for the from user I want, then read it again looking for the message id to get the to address. Thanks Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/29/2005 9:33 AM, Louis Spironello wrote: > > >> From: Justin Bennett >> Reply-To: nflug@nflug.org >> To: nflug@nflug.org >> Subject: maillog >> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:34:57 -0500 >> >> I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info >> for each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what >> date. As it is usually there is one line for receiving and one line >> for sending. I'd like to see one line with a to and from. > > Hello Justin: > > A few good utilities for parsing most log files are: > awk > sed > perl > > Awk can quickly parse out info by fields, records, etc. > > You may wish to check out the following article found at Oreilly's site: > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/linux/2002/11/01/awk3.html > > Lou > > >> -- >> Justin Bennett >> Network Administrator >> Dynabrade, Inc. >> 8989 Sheridan Dr. >> Clarence, NY 14031 >> >> > > From mmusone at shatterit.com Tue Mar 29 10:29:46 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: maillog In-Reply-To: <42495981.8070801@Dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <000001c53474$23ace030$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> What mail software are you using? most of the standard mail programs already have software that will generate that either as part of the program or as some add-on. -Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Justin Bennett Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:35 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: maillog I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info for each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what date. As it is usually there is one line for receiving and one line for sending. I'd like to see one line with a to and from. -- Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 From Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com Tue Mar 29 10:47:21 2005 From: Justin.Bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: maillog In-Reply-To: <000001c53474$23ace030$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> References: <000001c53474$23ace030$33faa8c0@usa.shatterit.com> Message-ID: <42497889.8080403@Dynabrade.com> sendmail Justin Bennett Network Administrator Dynabrade, Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr. Clarence, NY 14031 On 3/29/2005 10:29 AM, Mark Musone wrote: >What mail software are you using? most of the standard mail programs already >have software that will generate that either as part of the program or as >some add-on. > >-Mark > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of >Justin Bennett >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:35 AM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: maillog > >I'm looking for a utility to parse /var/log/maillog and give me info for >each message sent. for example who sent what to whom on what date. As >it is usually there is one line for receiving and one line for sending. >I'd like to see one line with a to and from. > > > From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 29 11:14:51 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: asterisk stuff Message-ID: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> Hello All, I know we all talked about this alot but we never really got a demo off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the steps necessary to get this going in an inter-office, intercom sort-of-way. If anyone would be interested in giving me a briefing over the phone or in person, please let me know. TIA. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 11:25:30 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> References: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <4249817A.2080008@gmail.com> Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box running and working with his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at that meeting he is the best person to ask. Josh Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > I know we all talked about this alot but we never really got a demo > off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the steps necessary to > get this going in an inter-office, intercom sort-of-way. If anyone > would be interested in giving me a briefing over the phone or in > person, please let me know. TIA. From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 29 11:55:46 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: <4249817A.2080008@gmail.com> References: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> <4249817A.2080008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42498892.1000405@thecybersource.com> Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box running and working with > his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at that meeting he is > the best person to ask. > > Josh > > Cyber Source wrote: > >> Hello All, >> I know we all talked about this alot but we never really got a demo >> off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the steps necessary to >> get this going in an inter-office, intercom sort-of-way. If anyone >> would be interested in giving me a briefing over the phone or in >> person, please let me know. TIA. > > oh I was at a couple of meetings when that was the topic and aim for a demo that never really got off the ground, I don't think you were there then. I have no preference as to whom I talk to about it, any offers are gladly taken ;) -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From joshua.altemoos at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 12:04:10 2005 From: joshua.altemoos at gmail.com (Joshua Ronne Altemoos) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: <42498892.1000405@thecybersource.com> References: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> <4249817A.2080008@gmail.com> <42498892.1000405@thecybersource.com> Message-ID: <42498A8A.6010103@gmail.com> TRhje one i am ytalking about i think you were watching football during :) mark brougth a miniatx in and ran it and it worked :) Cyber Source wrote: > Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > >> Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box running and working with >> his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at that meeting he is >> the best person to ask. >> >> Josh >> >> Cyber Source wrote: >> >>> Hello All, >>> I know we all talked about this alot but we never really got a demo >>> off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the steps necessary >>> to get this going in an inter-office, intercom sort-of-way. If >>> anyone would be interested in giving me a briefing over the phone or >>> in person, please let me know. TIA. >> >> >> > oh I was at a couple of meetings when that was the topic and aim for a > demo that never really got off the ground, I don't think you were > there then. I have no preference as to whom I talk to about it, any > offers are gladly taken ;) > > From peter at thecybersource.com Tue Mar 29 12:45:37 2005 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: <42498A8A.6010103@gmail.com> References: <42497EFB.4090106@thecybersource.com> <4249817A.2080008@gmail.com> <42498892.1000405@thecybersource.com> <42498A8A.6010103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42499441.6020608@thecybersource.com> Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > TRhje one i am ytalking about i think you were watching football > during :) mark brougth a miniatx in and ran it and it worked :) > > Cyber Source wrote: > >> Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: >> >>> Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box running and working with >>> his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at that meeting he is >>> the best person to ask. >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> Cyber Source wrote: >>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> I know we all talked about this alot but we never really got a >>>> demo off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the steps >>>> necessary to get this going in an inter-office, intercom >>>> sort-of-way. If anyone would be interested in giving me a briefing >>>> over the phone or in person, please let me know. TIA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> oh I was at a couple of meetings when that was the topic and aim for >> a demo that never really got off the ground, I don't think you were >> there then. I have no preference as to whom I talk to about it, any >> offers are gladly taken ;) >> >> There is no point to that reply, im sure it works and I would like to talk to whomever can help with it. -- cybersource.us 115 Richfield Road Williamsville, New York 14221 716-553-8525 From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 12:54:37 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050329175437.56240.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> joshua here is a link to Knopsterisk is a LIVE CD Linux system with a preconfigured Asterisk already installed. http://voip-forum.tmcnet.com/voip-forum/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1422 --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > TRhje one i am ytalking about i think you were > watching football during > :) mark brougth a miniatx in and ran it and it > worked :) > > Cyber Source wrote: > > > Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > > > >> Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box > running and working with > >> his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at > that meeting he is > >> the best person to ask. > >> > >> Josh > >> > >> Cyber Source wrote: > >> > >>> Hello All, > >>> I know we all talked about this alot but we > never really got a demo > >>> off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all > the steps necessary > >>> to get this going in an inter-office, intercom > sort-of-way. If > >>> anyone would be interested in giving me a > briefing over the phone or > >>> in person, please let me know. TIA. > >> > >> > >> > > oh I was at a couple of meetings when that was the > topic and aim for a > > demo that never really got off the ground, I don't > think you were > > there then. I have no preference as to whom I talk > to about it, any > > offers are gladly taken ;) > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From torrodimerda at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 12:56:06 2005 From: torrodimerda at yahoo.com (anthonyriga) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: Knopsterisk Live CD In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050329175606.95156.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> has anyone ever tried Knopsterisk? Its based on Knoppix, the LIVE Linux CD. --- Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > TRhje one i am ytalking about i think you were > watching football during > :) mark brougth a miniatx in and ran it and it > worked :) > > Cyber Source wrote: > > > Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > > > >> Erm i remember mark getting a asterisk box > running and working with > >> his office VOIP but i do not recall you being at > that meeting he is > >> the best person to ask. > >> > >> Josh > >> > >> Cyber Source wrote: > >> > >>> Hello All, > >>> I know we all talked about this alot but we > never really got a demo > >>> off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all > the steps necessary > >>> to get this going in an inter-office, intercom > sort-of-way. If > >>> anyone would be interested in giving me a > briefing over the phone or > >>> in person, please let me know. TIA. > >> > >> > >> > > oh I was at a couple of meetings when that was the > topic and aim for a > > demo that never really got off the ground, I don't > think you were > > there then. I have no preference as to whom I talk > to about it, any > > offers are gladly taken ;) > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vlokstone at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 16:30:56 2005 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:24 2007 Subject: asterisk stuff In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050329213056.85272.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Peter, not sure exactly what you'd like to do. Do you want to connect 2 offices over the internet? Do you need the phones to connect to the pots lines? I've set up asterisk using DUNDi (one in ROCH and one in BUFF) thru a vpn which is nice. How many phones do you need at each end? If this sounds like what you'd like to do or something else I'm sure I can handle it or point you in the right direction. Gimme a call kevin @ 875-4668. --- Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > I know we all talked about this alot but we never > really got a demo > off the ground, etc.. I would like to know all the > steps necessary to > get this going in an inter-office, intercom > sort-of-way. If anyone would > be interested in giving me a briefing over the phone > or in person, > please let me know. TIA. > -- > cybersource.us > 115 Richfield Road > Williamsville, New York 14221 > 716-553-8525 > Free Good Fire Bad __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mmusone at shatterit.com Wed Mar 30 14:49:52 2005 From: mmusone at shatterit.com (Mark Musone) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:25 2007 Subject: Reminder: BPLUG Meeting Tomorrow! 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Since this is my first taste of debian, I'm still rather lost, but would be much happier lost with tunes. Certainly the word "spurious" up there doesn't look too good, but I'm not sure what it means. any suggestions are most welcome. What am I missing? Thanks, S. From hawkwynd at adelphia.net Thu Mar 31 22:51:51 2005 From: hawkwynd at adelphia.net (Scott Fleming) Date: Fri May 25 13:00:25 2007 Subject: Now that I'm 100% Linux... Message-ID: <1112327509.4686.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Ditched the windows machines for my RH Fedora Core. I'm loving life under the penguin, but have some questions about proceedures I know are common in windows, but uncommon for me in my new linux world. 1. I have a scsi controller with 3 9gb hard drives. I would like to manage the disks, like I would with windows, having partitions and folders for the system to be able to view them in my file manager GUI thingy. Assistance with storage management under Linux would be appreciated. 2. 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